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Community Conversation => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Transsexual talk => FTM Top Surgery => Topic started by: puddleowl on March 11, 2017, 05:22:28 PM

Title: Advice on getting top surgery given my situation?
Post by: puddleowl on March 11, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
I'm a trans-masculine person from California that's trying to weigh the risks of getting top surgery in the next year or so. I'm 17 now, but will be 18 when I will have to make a decision.

My chest has been central to most of my dysphoria since puberty. I've been dealing with it for about three years now by binding (with a gc2b binder), but before that it was a lot of slouching, which I'm still trying to overcome (when I am binding). My dysphoria is really bad, but right now there's not much I can do about it beyond that. My parents will stop supporting me and will, essentially kick me out or estrange me.

Next school year I'll be attending community college just east of Central California. I'll be physically on my own, but still receiving partial monetary support from my parents, who I'll still see every few weeks/months or so. I thought this might be a good time to attempt to get top surgery, since I'll have to be out in public more often what with both school and work, larger than the amount of time I can safely wear a binder continuously. It's unlikely that my parents will catch on that I've had the surgery, giving my preexisting penchants for baggy clothing, complaining about physical pain, +more. I've also worn a binder in their presence, but since it's not permanent, they haven't said anything--if they've noticed.

If I was to go through with this, timing would be key. I would have to have a clinic appointment either somewhere near or in LA (5+ hour drive) (closer than San Fran (6-7+) bc of the mountain range). If all goes well, I'd then have to have a consultation with a surgeon (also far away, probably) and then schedule the actual surgery when I have a week (or 2) off school that my parents won't be in town for. This is actually quite probable given that community colleges and school my siblings attend don't tend to match up their holiday and spring breaks.

While this would help significantly with my suicidal ideation that is connected to my dysphoria, there are also some problems:

Alternate plans include:


Anyways, this is really long winded, and I'm starting to second guess my decision to post this haha. Any input would be very very helpful, and, of course, very appreciated!
Title: Re: Advice on getting top surgery given my situation?
Post by: Dena on March 11, 2017, 06:27:04 PM
Welcome to Susan's Place. My opinion is doing anything while you are dependent on your parents money is risky and likely to backfire. If the worst happens, you will not be able to finish your schooling and that could set the remainder of your transition even farther back. My advice would be to do what ever you can for the next few year to become independent and when you finish school, get your surgery before starting your profession. For now, you could be saving money that will be useful for your surgery and recovery as you  could be unable to work for around a month.

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Title: Re: Advice on getting top surgery given my situation?
Post by: FTMax on March 11, 2017, 07:58:17 PM
There is no way you would be able to keep an expense as big as surgery under the radar while using someone else's insurance. I get a bill for every little thing that my insurance does, whether insurance pays or I pay. It was the same when I was on my mom's plan, though the notifications went to her instead.

If you are desperate to have it sooner rather than later, my advice would be to apply to a 4 year university away from home, take out student loans to cover the costs, and take out an excess amount totaling what you would expect to spend on surgery. I would regularly get financial aid offers that were $6k-$10k higher than my financial needs each semester. Take the extra, have surgery, pay it off when you're done with school.
Title: Re: Advice on getting top surgery given my situation?
Post by: puddleowl on March 12, 2017, 11:37:52 PM
Thank you, both!
It's really nice to get input on this, especially when I don't really have anyone to talk to. Whew, yeah, I think I'm definitely going to play it safe. It's what I usually do, and I really have no interest in getting myself stuck in a corner I may never be able to get out of.
Going to a 4 year and taking out excess student loans actually sounds like a really neat plan, but at my dad's income level, I'd end taking those loans to my grave.
Thank you again for your advice!!
Title: Re: Advice on getting top surgery given my situation?
Post by: FTMax on March 13, 2017, 10:16:27 AM
Quote from: puddleowl on March 12, 2017, 11:37:52 PM
Thank you, both!
It's really nice to get input on this, especially when I don't really have anyone to talk to. Whew, yeah, I think I'm definitely going to play it safe. It's what I usually do, and I really have no interest in getting myself stuck in a corner I may never be able to get out of.
Going to a 4 year and taking out excess student loans actually sounds like a really neat plan, but at my dad's income level, I'd end taking those loans to my grave.
Thank you again for your advice!!

I borrowed over $100k for schooling and have had no financial help from my parents since I was 17. It's definitely doable, especially if you'd be paying out of pocket for surgery anyway. At least this way, you're not having to wait longer to save up the cash and you're also not having to put it on a higher interest credit card or take out a higher interest personal loan.
Title: Re: Advice on getting top surgery given my situation?
Post by: Alexthecat on March 13, 2017, 10:08:25 PM
I'd do the surgery now. You will be more comfortable in college if you do. Paying off loans after college is doable if you budget properly and maybe not be in a hurry to buy a house and have kids right away.