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Community Conversation => Crossdresser talk => Topic started by: barbie on November 24, 2007, 06:39:13 AM

Title: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on November 24, 2007, 06:39:13 AM
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But with short pants in outdoor.

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Purchased in this summer, but I did not have a chance to wear outdoors. Hopefully, next year I will wear occasionally.

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on November 24, 2007, 08:32:08 AM
It's always a joy to see you.

If one wants to reach a goal it is always good to have examples. And to me you are an example.

Karen
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on November 24, 2007, 06:09:52 PM
Karen,

Thanks for compliments.

Historically, feminine males have been a target of ridicule and satire, and I would not be surprised what I have got during my life. My body had been teased since my puberty, especially legs. I had always felt inferiority on my 'morphology', the term that I can not forget when a doctor used after examining my body. Narrow chest and feeble legs. After x-ray examining my legs when I was teens, the doctor asked whether I had serious leg injury when I was child. I said never and wondered why he asked. To avoid such teasing and unwanted medical inquiries, I tried to build muscles, but always failed. 

It is ironical that my body could be a goal for some purpose. Unlike men, some women tend to applaud my legs, even in my teenage. After my obvious crossdressing, some male friends began to applaud my body shape and legs as a women, but still others hate my crossdressing. I would not persuade them because this is my own taste and that is their own taste.

And, I can choose far more diverse clothes and accessories than them. If I want, I can wear men's suits and all of their clothes. But they can not wear most of my clothes. I just enjoy fashion.

Barbie~~

Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on November 25, 2007, 04:33:14 AM
Barbie,

Your legs are ok. And your chest .... well I used to think before "I want tits". And I got tits you know. I could move them even.

Unlike you I have a "strong" or heavy body structure. I used to be able to bent an arm with 30 kg in it. I was stronger than the national champion in the club.  If you ever go to the gym try 30 kg once, it's inhumanily heavy. Even lifting it might give you trouble.  My partner took hormones at the time. It gave him urinary trouble afterwards. Another one became very agressive and destroyed his marriage.  I never took hormones, I mean male hormones.  For a very short time I took female hormones however.  And building muscles was possible but I never was able to go above 90 kg at that time.

I am unable to build a body like yours. My bone structure is simply heavy and so are my lungs. I never brooke anything neither.

You will never be able to please everybody. 50 % of people will love you, adore you, applaud you. Like I do.  The other 50 % might hate you, dislike you, be jealous about you, call you a pervert. Truth is that you are much more beautiful than many women. I also envy you. You are able to live in both modes. Female and male mode. I'm not.

Ever since I was a child it is exactly this freedom of choice I was jealous about.  For men you can really only choose a suit for work or a jeans.  And normally it sucks. It seems to be the right of men to look ugly. And I want to look nice also. One of my professional contacts from a bank is part korean I think. Anyhow, the thing is that he always "dresses" supercool. He must have felt my enthusiasm towards him but it is because of his choice of clothes.  Armani suit and glasses.  Rectangular watch, shining shoes, ... . He invited me to Roland Garros ( a tennis game ) last year. Arriving in Paris I couldn't believe the reaction of the police when I showed my invitation. I received an escort getting out of the subway. Crazy.

The transformers movie is playing on the TV here. I don't want to go live back in the grots like the talibans. For me this is the future. Transformation.

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You might dislike this picture. I don't know.

Let's be honest, Barbie is morphologically SUPERIOR !


Karen.



Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on November 25, 2007, 10:52:10 AM
Karen,

Thanks for providing such an interesting photo.

Nowadays, it is called metrosexual or androgynous. Historically, people have admired the androgynous status, because some people believed that a perfect human should complete both man and woman in their destiny.

In ancient times in my country before the Confucianism introduced, people enjoyed homosexual and even crossdressing, which we can guess from historical records, although most of them were purged by patriarchical Neo-confucians later. For example, an elite group called 'hwarang' of the Silla dynasty (57 BC~ 935 A.D) wore makeup and flowers, and trimmed their eyebrows. The term 'hwa-rang' literally means 'flower young men', but in the later period, it's meaning was changed to a concept similar to the Japanese samurai.

Most of ancient Greek sculptures are actually of men whose body line is indeed smooth and feminine because of well-built external muscles. Romans also admired androgynous and beautiful boys. Even in the modern ages, some western painters had pursued the androgynous beauty as an ideal.

I also purse androgynous beauty, because I can not be a woman at all, even if I take hormones or SRS. I give off the smell of men. I can not fool people forever. When I run at beach, I like to run along the boundary between the sandy beach and the seawater. Maybe it is called coastal line, but to me it is like the boundary between man and woman.

Barbie~~

Posted on: November 25, 2007, 09:52:02 AM[hr
My favorite one in summer. A wife of my friend commented that I look like a genuine lady, and I was happy. Be careful not to get a cold.

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on November 25, 2007, 12:26:11 PM
Barbie,

It's true you look like a genuine one. Can I ask you whether you have breasts ( tits, boobs ) ? I'm not sure, maybe small ones. But if you have how did you get them ?

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I remember from my childhood that I had to study ancient greek and roman texts. And some of those texts were about older men and young beautiful boys in bath houses. It's not my thing however. I remember going through a "phase" when I was 14 or so. I had feelings for one of my friends. I never told him. The feelings didn't stay long neither.

Wanting to be female however is from all times for me. I don't feel homosexual. I don't know whether I am metrosexual or whatever. I feel attracted to the feminine side. I don't like young boys at all. Especially not when they have flowers in their hair.  Hairy legs is also not what excites me.  And I can not imagine I would penetrate somebody without the proper "organ".

But a woman with a penis excites me. You can make love in many ways.  So I must be homosexual after all ? You could see it as liking some kind of energy. I'm difficult to understand I suppose.

Karen

Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on November 26, 2007, 03:59:22 AM
I am not sure, but there are some people who admire transgender people. In my country, they are called 'lover', and in English, they may be called ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<- or ->-bleeped-<- admirer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/->-bleeped-<-_->-bleeped-<- . Also, I know some people are both crossdresser and ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-. I do not know exactly about my sexual orientation, but I once fell in love with a pretty boy, although it did not last long, but the felling was so strong. Probably I am not homophobic.

I do not have tits as usual women do. But my morphology sometimes makes me look having  A-cup. I mean when my waist is relatively small compared with my chest. Very skinny women could be like me. I sometimes wear A-cup bra as in the above photos.

Men and women tend to love in fantasy. I think love and sex itself is unrealistic and like a dream. ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s are the same, as I think.

Today, it's Monday and I was rather tired of writing a manuscript to publish. Writing in English is boring and difficult.

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on November 26, 2007, 06:27:48 AM
I want to be what I admire or like in others.  Everybody has role models in their lives. Like a star you look up to.  Transgendered people can also be a role model for somebody.  Some of them are more beautiful than the original.

I had to pass a law exam recently. My wife didn't want to let me study. And then I told her, in order to understand the law you must become the law. You must become obsessed with what you are dealing with.  Putting a goal as high as possible might give you more chances or reaching perhaps a bit of it yourself.

Yes I do admire the transgendered, but especially the MTF ones.  I can live with anybodies point of view.  And what I admire myself I would like to become myself.

I'm Dutch speaking but I think in English.

Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on November 26, 2007, 03:03:11 PM
Karen,

I also think transgendered people could be admired as much as other people.

I found that I am more popular among women than among men. And I have met a few men who are specially favourable to me, and they do not say why and I neither ask. If men like me, it could sound homosexual and it becomes a thorny issue. I do not want that kind of sex thing is ever involved in my everyday's social interactions with people. They are just kind to me whatever the reason is, and we can smile together.

I heard that there are some transgender bars where I have never been. Crossdressers or M2F transsexual serve there, and I heard that more than half of guests are actually women. And women tend to me more interested in my body shape than men, because more women look at me when I run outdoors or wear heels, and I see some women thrust out their heads through car windows to look back at me. Certainly they are very interested in their own body beauty. But most of men who chased me did not seem to care about their appearance.

Old men easily commented on me in my country like "That girl is too tall". It's ok when I was alone. But, in some case with my colleagues, for example, an old woman once admired me in an airport lounge by saying how smooth my body line is. Then one of my colleagues came out and explained in detail that I am a man. At first, she was not willing to accept it, and he continued, and so on. Of course, I was perplexed. I did not understand why he wanted the 'truth' so much. He is actually a nice guy, but does not understand or even think about what would be difficult for me.

Because of this reason, I prefer going out with some male colleagues who understand my situation better.

Barbie~~


Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on November 27, 2007, 12:51:36 AM
Barbie,

I used to water ski. First I didn't notice it but then my teacher told me. She couldn't take her eyes of my legs. I had no idea. It also felt strange because I'm not used getting looked at or getting nice remarks.  I also don't search for it.  My wife told me I have nice legs also. They are especially in good shape. I mean some people have vein trouble.  I don't and I never will. 

I asked one of my colleagues what he thinks about my new friend from the internet. And then I showed him two of your pictures. He said you are nice. He didn't notice a man in it.

Look, if you dress up. With a mini skirt accentuating your body and then people look at you then you exactly achieved what you wanted to achieve. Saying then that that was not your intention is untrue. Because of the same logic I find it normal that men might get attracted to you. I am.  Because of several reasons. Because I'd like to be like you. Because I like the energy. Not because I want to have sex.  I'm also married. But admit you do look like a beautiful woman. It's like putting a cat next to the milk and then telling her she can not touch it. Of course people feel attracted to you, isn't that what you want ? At least for some part next to admiring yourself or simply feeling good.

Sex is ALWAYS around between men and women. And if you dress up like a woman like you do I think you should accept it. In my opinion it is even what you do it for. Not for the real thing but for the creation of the energy, for the thrill. Because it makes you feel good.

You know why I would like to be a woman ? One thing is that this was always with me since I was young, sure. But something else is that women have such a big influence on men. And it is this influence, power if you want, that attracts me. It is the woman who decides whether or not there will be sex, not the man. So you are a guy and you want to have sex. Because that's what your male hormones tell you to do. It's stronger than yourself, it is truly your obsession. But being a guy you're not the one deciding. So becoming a woman really gives you the ability to have sex whenever you want, maybe only the opportunity to.

If I would be a woman I would become a prostitute. I assure you. Not for the money but for the thrill of doing it.

If some men are nice to you or admire you then I think one of the reasons might be that secretly they want to be like you also. We are all a bit man and woman at the same time.

K.




Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on November 27, 2007, 11:09:14 PM
Karen,

When I am busy working, my interest in fashion diminishes and I nearly forgot the desire to be a woman. Yesterday, I finished my first draft of manuscript and drunk some alcohol beverages at dinner with my colleagues. Although, we drink frequently and a lot, very few are alcoholic, because we seldom drink alone. Always with friends. Today I started writing my second manuscript. This week, I did not have time to wear foundation in the morning.

When I am free, sometimes I wish to be a woman. The desire can be extremely strong, and I remember how I eagerly I once wanted it at my 20's. Now my family is more important than that. Sacrifice for family is a virtue in my country. However, still I believe I am allowed to enjoy a little what I can do.

I feel uncomfortable when men look into me, but I enjoy attention from women. Even I become jealous of a few women, especially those having waist  smaller than mine. Fortunately, I have not yet seen a woman whose leg line looks better than mine, except those in advertisements, TV and hosiery covers. One of my cousins was a fashion model at her 20's and had legs like mine. I remember how I envied her, not because of her slim legs, but because she could wear such short hot  pants and I could not. Now, I do wear it, no longer envy her.

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on November 27, 2007, 11:33:57 PM
Barbie,

I ignored myself for a very long time. And building a family has been a stressfull, even painfull experience for me an my wife. When you have 2 babies your body changes. ANd free time is over. No going to the gym.  Working, that's all. That's why running is easier as a sport also. You don't need much. My wife and I both went to the gym a lot before but not anymore.

But things are getting better. You know I had underwear and socks with holes in before ? I didn't want to spent anything because a house was needed. Also me working alone didn't improve much. But now things are better.

I have a terrible headache. It's wednesday and I took a free day.

I have this theory about chaos and what I would like to do, also for my work, is kind of make a chaos creator in order to take away chaos.  That's perhaps a big word for finding alternatives, analysing them and then keeping the best.  I need to work with uncertainty for my work, with RISK.  And for that I plan to make a model, an economic model.  I try to work on it whenever I can but it's difficult because there is always a shortage of time.  You can also call it econometrics because statistics are involved. Linking economical indicators to intrest rate behaviour.  IRS rate, Euribor, Libor, swaps, caps and floors, straight loans, inflation, ... that is my world now. I don't write manuscripts however.  No time.

I wanted to take a bath yesterday before to go sleep but I didn't have th energy anymore.  I will today, and I will paint my nails and perhaps go look for a night dress ?

Kaeren.
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on November 28, 2007, 08:27:53 AM
Karen,

I work from 9 to 6 pm, and relax in weekend. My workplace is very close from my home. Just 10 min by car, or 40 min by slow running. When running in the morning, I take shower at my work place. I have not got so much stress from working, and actually I try to enjoy my work. I have relatively many chances of travel, and I like it. I am very well known in my workplace where about 1,000 people work. A few woman employees seem to treat me like a movie star, and even consider it a privilege just to have a lunch with me, partially because I am more educated than them, and more important because of my hairs. Probably I have the longest hair among male employees in my country. And my country is traditionally very conservative, and most companies do not allow men's long hair, although there is no dress code.

I like to go outside with my daughter and she always keeps after me to go out. There are some words for women in my country. 'Agassi' is for unmarried young women, and 'Ajumma' is for married, aged women. With my daughter, people always call me 'Ajumma'. Although she is just 3 yrs old, my daughter is already very interested in fashion, begging her mom to purchase various accessories and clothes.

My first son seemed to try to give me a bouquet for fun.

Barbie~~

Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on November 28, 2007, 10:35:23 AM
Barbie,

You have nice legs.  It's really difficult not to see you as a real woman. It's not a privilege to go eat with me.  Many times I go to T., my girlfriend from work, or she comes to me when it is noon.  Sometimes we go eat outside, or we go to the main shopping street which is really near. 

I don't like showing people anymore that I am educated because it got me in a lot of trouble.  I have 4 degrees.  How many people are like that ? But what's the point . I have my superior degree or rank anyhow now.

Nobody really knows about my state of mind and my wish to be more female. My girlfriend from work does. Maybe she told somebody ? I don't know.  On the whole I don't care. I have very short hair, military style let's say.  I have been an officer for a short while byt the way.

A normal day for me is getting up at 5 AM and coming home around 7 PM.  There is around 10 000 people where I work.  They are of all kinds of levels and work in all kinds of areas.  Almost no education untill highly educated.  I try to keep a low profile. I even hide myself a bit.  The less people know me the better. What I certainly don't want is to have my picture in the news.

So I'm a nobody and that's the way I like it. I am of the trojan kind. I work in silence.

Kaeren.





Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on November 29, 2007, 01:27:39 PM
My short boots

Yesterday, a little tired all day as I had not slept well because I had drunken too much coffee (7 cups or more).

I do not wear heels at workplace, but in some weekends I do. Long boots are now popular here regardless of women's ages, but I do not have any, partly because my foot is 1 cm bigger than the usual, largest women's size 255 mm. Instead, I wear very short boots of US 10 women's size (265 mm) which I happened to purchase about 3 years ago. Despite 5 inch heel, it is very comfortable.

I realized that I have better put on it with skirt rather than with bootleg jeans, because the combination of boots and jeans makes me look aggressive and many people seemed to be overwhelmed by my height, wondering whether I am a man or woman.

Barbie~~

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Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on November 29, 2007, 03:08:57 PM

My foot is size 42.  It's a bit like you. Sizes for women normally stop at 41 and I am 42 as a foot.  But the I went to yesterday had boots of 41,5 and 42 for women. I found some that could look olike male ones also if hidden under the jeans. But then mly wife said that the really female ones are much better.

Kaeren
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 01, 2007, 05:43:57 PM
One of my favorite shoes is stiletto heel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiletto_heel .

Some people recommended me to wear stiletto, because bulky heels do not seem to match well with my skinny legs. I purchased one pair of US 9.5 women's size at dramatically discounted price. Strangely, it was still little bit larger for my foot, but no size problem so far. It's fine for walking in paved streets, but causes some problem in lawns and other unpaved roads as its heel sinks into the ground. Stiletto seems to be for life in metro areas.

I do not wear it frequently, as it may cause foot health problems.

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Barbie~~
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: tia on December 01, 2007, 11:26:52 PM
Hi Barbie,

You certainly have a very feminine body and I wish that I had a body like yours. The clothes and style really fit well with you. In short, you really look fantastic. I am closet dresser and I wish I can come out in the open like you. It will take me some courage to do so, but hopefully sooner. I am a newbie to this forum, but I am already liking it. Do upload more pictures if you have. You are certainly an inspiration for me.

Hugs,
-Tia
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 02, 2007, 02:51:01 AM
An inspiration to me also.

It's a joy to see you. Each and every time.

Karen.
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 02, 2007, 08:28:32 AM
Today morning, when I returned to the room after smoking outside, I saw my second son of age 8 wake up and watch the Internet explorer screen of this thread. He can read English, and these photos of his dad....

Anyway, my kids already saw his dad wear skirts, heels and even bikini in the beach. But, regarding my photos, I am not quite sure how often they saw. As we share 2 pcs in the room, they probably saw some of them, although they never mention it to me.

I am a little bit concerned about my 2nd son, as he resembles me more than his elder brother. But, I will accept whatever he would choose as his destiny... I am almost ready for it. He is a very smart kid and very curious.

Kids know as much as adults.

Barbie~~





Posted on: December 02, 2007, 08:21:19 AM
Quote from: tia on December 01, 2007, 11:26:52 PM
Hi Barbie,

The clothes and style really fit well with you.


Hi, Tia,

Nice to meet you and thanks for compliments.

Without those clothes and cosmetics, I look more like a man rather than a woman. I just wear, decorate and pose to look like a woman when I wish to do. I have a lot photos both in man and women mode. For official meetings, I usually wear men's suits, although in some cases I wear women's.

A most important one for looking like a woman is I think the hair-style. Long hair may be a must. It is a time consuming task to rinse everyday, and most women told me that simply they can not afford to maintain long hair like mine.

Barbie~~



Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 02, 2007, 08:43:02 AM

My son of 4 likes to put on the clothes of his sister. He doesn't really know about me.  Even if he would he would not understand that I'm a bit different I think.
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 06, 2007, 02:25:41 PM
Capris is my favorite in summer.
I wear it at my workplace during the summer.

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Barbie~~
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 07, 2007, 12:46:22 AM

Barbie,

I'm collecting your pictures. I hope you don't mind.

Your "manhood" is visible here on the picture with the bridge. I used to have a black "trousers" like that.  I used it once to go to the gym. But strangely some people thought it was not right. Normally I was wearing the same but with black and white stripes. It looked kind of eccentric. The black one was in fact exactly the same just another color.

If you're ever in France you should try to go to Milau.  They have the highest and longest bridge in the world. I've passed it a few times already with the car and it really is something special.  The French are great !

My wife bought 3 sleeping dresses for me yesterday. She repeated I shouldn't go too far. She's not attracted to women she said. I said I was. I also told her about you. I mailed her the picture with your nice legs on it ( 2 years ago ). She said you look like a woman completely.

This is only one hyperlink. there are many.

http://www.abelard.org/france/viaduct-de-millau.asp

Kaeren
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 07, 2007, 08:57:26 AM
Kaeren,

I do not mind. I once posted some of my photos in a popular internet site in my country, and more than 200,000 people already watched it. It was eventually known to my work place, and I got warning about that, and no more posting... Sigh...

As the year-end approaches, I am rather busy finishing up what I did this year and will have a lot chances of carouser with my friends, family and others. I am glad that I can be an interesting person for others. I am a kind of celebrity in my area. Everybody remembers me after seeing me just once.

My wife also does not hesitate to purchase clothes, shoes and cosmetic for me. Although she does not seem to enjoy it, neither does she hate it. Sometimes I went to a mall with my wife, and she used to recommend a skirt for me. Once I purchased my own skirt, but she took over it as it looked too pretty to her eyes. Other people sometimes say that my wife loves me very much, and I also think so. So, I guess your wife also indeed loves you. Women want to be loved.

The bridge in the picture is rather recent one. About 15 years ago, I heard that the city planned to build a new bridge to relieve heavy traffics. The city initially tried to extend the road along the coast, but the real property there was absurdly expensive, and the city could not afford to compensate for buildings and houses along the road. Instead, the bridge was built to serve as a kind of detour.

Now the heavy traffic in the area is greatly relieved, and the elementary school of my two kids was located there. Everyday, I gave ride for my kids and it took just about 10 minutes (now we moved to a suburban area and my kids are attending rather remote and small school).

My second son took the photo for me, as I remember. When I go to the school of my kids, I avoid obviously feminine clothes.

The other three photos were taken when I was in a rural area of the U.S. about 2 years ago. There was also a beautiful bridge, and the piers in the photos were near the bridge.

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Barbie~~



Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 09, 2007, 04:16:23 AM
Barbie,

I just love your style.  I find you are very "professional" in your way of clothing.  You obviously thought about a lot of styles and ways and it developed into something that is appealing. It's not so difficult to like  you.  I'm attracted to the feminine way, to your feminine side if you want, I don't like men at all. You're more a woman than many real women in my opinion. And I think you have an easy character which many women have a lack of.  Maybe the perfect woman is a man ?

My wife told me recently ( a few days ago ) she loves me very much.  She wants to marry me a second time in 2012. This time in church. She even has plans about the way we will be dressed. She gave me some hyperlinks, this is one of them

http://www.fantasywaistcoats.co.uk/coats_velvet1.shtml

it looks a bit like a dress. Style 100 years ago in Europe.

I don't think I am a celebrity. Not for looks anyhow. They used to call me a genius where I work but that was working against me.  Now I try to hide and I certainly don't try to cultivate this 'reputation' any longer.  I simply do my job to the best of my abilities.  I had a reputation with computers. I had extremely high grades also passing the master. 19/20 for programming. I could be a hacker.

My boss has an open mind. But I don't think she would apprecaite it if I would arrive in a dress. She is very sensitive if it comes to bringing out "information".  Still about something like this I think she would be understanding. 3 days ago she opened a bottle of champaign and we drank it together with 2 other people.  We were a bit talking about priests and so. Then I said I had a proposition once from my economy professor who is gay. I told him I was not and then he kind of dumped the friendship. Then my boss said "He must have loved you."  There was no condemnation in that remark whatsoever. You can also easily see I shave my arms of course. But from that to go work in a dress .... NO. At least not the way I look now.

I will be a dandy.  And then we will see ...

I wanted to buy those boots recently. They are really extra extra cool. One looks very feminine, the pther pair looks inbetween male and female and I could have worn them. But then she took them back also. Somebody will see she said. They cost 90 euro or so. She said she would buy me some that cost 30 euro because it's only for a short time in the bedroom anyhow.

It's not only women that want to be loved. I want a nice life also now. The suffering days should be over.

Which country are you from anyhow ? Korea ? Japan ? I live in Kortrijk http:\\www.kortrijk.be . Suburbn area also. Not in the center but the center is close.

My neighbour, a very nice lady of over 70, puts her clothes outside to dry. Also her underwear.  It is bigger than my t-shirts ! I don't think she knows I have 3 strings. 

Kaeren.

Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 09, 2007, 08:50:12 AM
Kaeren,

It is rather surprising that you could like my style. Most people say that my fashion style is boorish, or more correctly 'childish'. All agree that I am out of fashion or know nothing about fashion. Of course, I want to wear women's suits such as the one you linked. The style is simply elegant and sexy, but unfortunately I can not afford to purchase those expensive suits.

I like wearing clothes for little girls. I usually wear clothes for juniors, but sometimes those for little girls at about 10 to 15 years old. I am not pedophilic at all. The pink panty in the above is for junior US size 3, and the top is for little girls. I also sometimes wear underwear pants for little girls (US girl size 10 or 12), which are far cheaper than junior's or adult's.

I think the reasons why I like girls' clothes are three. First, they are far cheaper. Those summer tops for little girls can be purchased at $1-4 in Wal-mart or other popular malls. Second, they are very comfortable and I can even exercise and stretch. Third, simply I like little girls' style.

The bluish skirt and short pants you have seen in my photos are for juniors, and I also like junior style. Some people say that I am and look too old to wear them. Nevertheless, I sometimes wear them. I have several cute thong panties for juniors, which I wear nearly everyday.

One day, I purchased a box containing 10 underwear pants for girls. The size was 10, which means they are for girls of 20-inch waist. It was from Hues, and costed about $7, as I remember. I still wear them, because they are so much durable. At the counter, I thought that cashiers and others would think that I might choose underwear pants for my daughter. In  sense, I thought that it would be ludicrous that a dad wears underwear pants made for his little daughter.

My nickname 'barbie' is also based on the barbie doll my first son played with when he was about 3 years old. In a year, the doll wore out to be naked. I saw it and suddenly realized that the doll's morphology was surprisingly similar to mine. It was about 2 years before my ->-bleeped-<- erupted.

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My childish and cheap summer fashion items.

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My junior top and panty for early fall.

Barbie~~


Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 09, 2007, 10:04:35 AM

Barbie,

You really look like a woman, or like a girl. That's the idea.  If I like your style I don't mean you're a super expert in fashion.  Sometimes I see you're not a woman.  You know, one eye is king in the land of the blind. In this case maybe you are "one eye" and I am blind. Yes it's true, maybe your choices are a bit childish but it is already far better than most women from my country.  Sometimes I think it is a man when I see one.  A woman from police was shot recently here. It was in the newspapers.  Well, that looked like a man.  She had NOTHING female in her.  She looked like a tank.  Once women get older some look like men.  This is not disrespect you know.  I can imagine they feel unhappy.  But then they let themselves go. Or they put too much make-up. You look far more sexy than most of them. And didn't you know that many dirty old men ( like me ) like pretty little young girls ? Your string is nice ! ;-)) Not to mention your amazing waist line !

The sleeping dress my wife bought for me costs 4 euro, the other 2 cost 2 euro each. That hyperlink would be to marry a second time. That can be a bit more expensive.  My first marriage costed 1500 euro. Not exactly the biggest party ever. A normal marriage costs 15 000 euro here.  I plan to change all my underwear to the female kind.  I have some already. 

My son is crazy about batman !  Everything in his room is about batman.  He is batman, I'm superman, his sister is mega mindy and his mother is super mama.

Kaeren.
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 10, 2007, 09:14:46 AM
Kaeren,

In my country, we call married women as 'Ahjum-ma'. A joke here is that  3 genders exist in this country. One is man, the 2nd is woman, and the third is 'Ahjum-ma'. When I first heard the joke, I thought the third gender might be transgender or intersex.

There are many jokes about Ahjum-ma. A most popular topic is poor driving of Ahjuma-ma. I also feel that they are like deadly weapons or booby traps in the road. In the road, it is not difficult do see some drivers stop their cars to argue with other drivers regarding traffic laws and manners, etc. Despite their lack of driving skill, those Ahjum-ma never acknowledge their fault, and criticize others.

The reason of the joke is because married women in my country are more like men than ladies. They are very aggressive in verbal attacks, and never concede in quarreling with men. Especially for those women after the menopause, the aggressiveness becomes out of limit. And, above all, some Ahjum-ma wear jeans like military uniform and boots like combat boots. Most Ahjuma-ma keep their hair short, but still longer than men's. They do not care so much about their appearance, and prefer comfortableness.

When I return to my country for the first time in 8 years, I saw an Ahjum-ma in a bus stop. She talked to herself, but clearly to my ears, that my hair is too long, and is it he or she?, and etc. We got in a public bus together. Later, the bus driver made a minor mistake and he did not let her get out of the bus at the destined stop. But he did stop the bus at about 100 meters from the bus stop, and sincerely apologized to her. Nevertheless, she was so upset and screamed  to the driver like "Are you crazy? Damn you!" Her trousers was like a military uniform.

But strangely, it is those Ahjum-ma who usually take attention of my fashion and body shape. I think they are still interested in their body shape, although they do not explicitly express it. Probably they may have already given up, but still have lingering attachment to it. In the U.S., it was also married, but still beautiful women who sometimes admired my legs and other parts.

My kids have been mad at characters of Japanese animation movies such as pokemon, power rangers, and Yu-gi-oh. They sometimes watch them until mid-night.

Ha Ri Su is the most popular, and pioneering transgender in my country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harisu

Barbie~~

Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 10, 2007, 01:23:04 PM
Barbie,

I have heard about Harisu before. I believe you mentioned her already.  I was looking recently at the nations that are member of the united nations and I remarked that North-Korea is not.  I guess you're lucky. I also saw a program on TV about how people are brainwashed in the north. Don't take it the wrong way, I just say what I saw. It looks like east and west Germany but a degree worse.

My wife, a married woman, has a driver's license. Now I don't want to pretend I am Ayrton Senna but when I learned how to drive it went like this.  I took the keys, I started the engine and 5 minutes later I was on the road without any trouble.  Not then, not later, not never had I any troubles.  Now comes my wife ..................... she has a driver's license but that is also all she has. How she passed that ?  I have no idea ??? She is a DISASTER ! When I tell her, go to the left, she goes to the right. Then she blocks the engine all the time. And then she says "But I didn't do anything wrong. It's the car that is wrong."  ..... I have to admit that after 6 months extreme patience from my side she is now able to drive normally and she is worthy of her licence. She simply has no driving skills. I wanted to become a pilot but I have bad eyes. I still like speed.  Friday I go to Spain for a week. I always love take off.  Like a rocket, you're pushed in your seat when the plane starts.  COOL ! Sometimes I imagine I have a transformer vehicle.  And that it can change from car into plane while driving.  If an alien would ask me whether I would like to have a present that is what I would choose. A transformer.

In my country there are no famous transgender people.  One person was mentioned once in the magazines .  He changed into a woman but remained married to his wife. There are however more and more people that are homosexual.  I see lots of men coming out.  Especially where I work there is a lot. And also among the artists and the politicians. 

Kaeren.



Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 11, 2007, 12:38:58 PM
Kaeren,

I also have seldom heard about any famous transgender people in other countries. Harisu is exceptional. People here wonder whether she ever could be so easily accepted unless she was so much pretty. A negative thing about her is that most people now expect that transgender people should be as much as beautiful as women, and more. Could they accept transgenders who can hardly pass? Most people disagree. Harisu is an ideal, not an reality. Passing would determine human rights of transgender people here.

Our country was completely destroyed about 55 years ago by the war. One U.S. general once declared that the entire country returned to the 'stone age'. The amount of bombs used was twice as much as that dropped in the Europe during the 2nd World War. The North is still threatening, but people here now live as normal as other countries.

Driving here is not so much enjoyable. Roads are in anarchy, and there are too many cars in narrow roads to cause traffic congestions, especially at tollgates in the afternoon of Sunday. I would say, if you can driver here, you can drive at any place in the world. I drive our minivan for long-distance travel, and my wife prefers a compact car as she is not good at parking. Helsinki was so impressive to me because I never heard a horn during my stay there for a week.

Barbie~~

Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 11, 2007, 01:12:52 PM
Barbie,

I don't know much about the war.  Both sides normally think they are right.  Thinking about it I have some comics from Buck Danny.  American fighter pilots.  And sometimes it is about the war in Korea. But I have no idea what it really is about. Communism I suppose.

Dana International is a famous transsexual. Barbie could be one. You really could pass for a real woman.

My wife is russian by the way.  She likes very big cars.  While I like small ( and fast ) cars.  In Brussels you shouldn't put your pinker if you want to go to the right for example because you will certainly get blocked by somebody.  If you want to go somewhere just do it. That's the best strategy in Brussels.  And don't come to close to busses because they will drive you of the road. 

Kaeren.
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 12, 2007, 09:43:25 AM
Some photos on the war:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

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Barbie~~
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 12, 2007, 02:32:50 PM
Barbie,

The grandfather of my wife was killed in world war II. Allthough there was a war in Belgium also I have never heard much about it. With the exception of my father who said that he was never hungry.  My father died a few years ago. When he said he was never hungry he really meant that he gave himself a goal during the war. That goal was never to have hunger again. And I guess he achieved his goal.

Those pictures are horrible. I have seen others. About the effects of agent orange, or the effects of radio-active bullets, or the effects of an atomic bomb on people. And I know where all these come from.  But I don't know enough about Korea to understand what happened and who was responsible for whatever reason ? The japanese, the russians, the americans ? I got my ass kicked already for less than this.  Somebody will take it personally. So ...

History is one long story of war.  And I hope I am wrong but the biggest war of all might still have to come. We should try to stop it !

I'm from Belgium and we have a strange attitude. Maybe you heard that our country might split or collaps.   The federal government is unable to get formed after the elections.  Almost 200 days now after elections and still no government.  I went to eat a few months ago with the sister in law of the one who is supposed to become our new prime minister. But he is unable to make the new government. The french and the dutch fight between each other.

There will never be a civil war of the native people here because it is not our way. We're not like that, on the whole we don't really care about politics.  My wife who is from Russia always takes it very serious when I dare to say one wrong word about her country. And then I always say that I don't have these nationalistic feelings about Belgium. I don't care if somebody says that Belgium is a country of monkeys. So what ? We prefer to work hard. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudouin_I_of_Belgium

My country used to have a colony called Congo, now Zaire.  Our king Leopold II saw this country as his personal property and did not hesitate to murder, rape, molest, torture, behead, .... the local people. His ancestors are still our royal family.  They are not known for being bright minds. Nevertheless the king before the one we have now was Boudewijn. And Boudewijn was a nice person. When he died lots of people were very touched because he had to go.

Kaeren.
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 13, 2007, 02:52:28 AM
There was a beauty in the royal family of Belgium.

Her old photos got attention this week in the internet of my country.

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Barbie~~
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 13, 2007, 06:51:59 AM
Barbie,

That is Paola Ruffo di Calabria. She is Italian. Our queen.  The picture is from when she was young. Boudewijn and Fabiola did not have children.  When Boudewijn died his brother Albert became king.  They have two official sons, Filip, and Laurent. And also one daughter Astrid. I met Laurent once but he is probably not the son of the king.  Our king has another daughter Delphine Boel. Probably as revenge, Paola made a child with somebody else also.  That is Laurent. The baby on  the picture is either Filip, or Laurent. Filip will be the next king ( if Belgium still exists by then of course ). 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Pierre_Van_Rossem

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When Albert became king, Jean-Pierre Van Rossem shouted "Long live the republic".  Jean-Pierre Van Rossem is a bit an eccentric person who developed an economical model called moneytron based on econometrics ( high level statistics ) for analysis of the stock market.  He is not in the news anymore now. He was especially known also for driving extremely fast cars, like a Ferrari F40. 

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The first place where I worked was an engineering company.  And some say that the real brain behind Van Rossem was the boss of this engineering company. I believe but I am not sure that king Albert ( or Boudewijn ) also invested money in Moneytron. Then when it collapsed he probably lost money also to the one who later shouted "Long live the republic" when he became king.

Kaeren.
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 13, 2007, 08:51:23 AM
Kaeren,

I was interested in your posting on the bigger war related with Nostradamus. I have my own vision regarding it, and it is very clear, but I was reluctant to detail it.

King of Angolmois means King of Mongolian. Few interpreters would deny this anagram. Nostradamus did not write '1999' literally, but "L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois" was translated into July 1999 or July nineteen ninety nine. I am not good at French, but you know how to write the year 1999 in French. It would not be like 'mil neuf cencs nonante neuf". "L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois" can be interpreted other ways. It's meaning, IMHO, is when it comes to full maturity.

The number 19 is very important one in ancient philosophy in East Asia. 19 x 19 = 361 and 361 - 1 = 360. The number 360 that Sumerians and Babylonians adopted was actually based on this principle. This ancient philosophy is very difficult to understand, but it was originated from an ancient philosopher called Bokhwi (or Fu Xi in Chines). The philosophy was later published as a book "I-ching", an ancient Chinese classic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching . I will not detail this, but in summary, there are five elements in the universe. 1 - water, 2 -fire, 3 - wood, 4 - metal, and the fifth element is 5- the ground where the 4 elements play. 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10. In Greek, they were Earth, Water, Air, Fire, and Idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element

Also, number 7... It's the lucky number? There are many 7s even in the Bible. Seven is a symbol to denote something...

Anway, regarding the bigger war, I guess it will be ignited by the conflict between China and Taiwan. At the present, the US supports Taiwan in military, and also will do in the near future, but can not engage in two major wars in the globe. I may have a chance to detail the scenario later.

I guess the bigger war will be ended by a plague such as small pox. About 2 years before the 9/11, I asked the doctor a small-pox vaccine for my first son. He replied that it is not available. Probably he thought I was a crackpot. But, now he would not think so.

Barbie~~


Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 13, 2007, 10:15:59 AM
Barbie,

I'd like to discuss this in more detail but I'm getting ready to take the plane to Spain.  The king of the mongols is Dzjengis Khan.  With Nostradamus you're never sure what it means but it could mean CRUELTY.  A muslim army of very cruel holy wariors. 

I speak French where I work. It's not perfect but you wouldn't notice I am not a native speaker for a while.  1999 = mil neuf cents nonante neuf. I didn't understand your explanation about it. 

World war 3 is busy already in my opinion. Osama Bin Laden started it. Country should rise against country.  It wouldn't surprise me if some extremists kill the american president with an atomic bomb.  Then the americans or the french take revenge and you get a massive killing of a lot of people in the middle east I suppose.

I didn't even know Taiwan and China had a conflict.  But I believe you and I'm sure you might be right.  A world war by definition is war all over the world of course. My best guess is a religious war between the muslims and ... the west.  The pope in Italy is a good target for them I suppose.

I didn't ask for any vaccins.  But biological warfare is certainly possible. Honestly, I don't think Belgium will have to suffer a lot from the war. But I might be wrong. I think if something happens in Europ it would be more the south of Spain or Italy. That is close of course.

In fact I got interested in Nostradamus because of 9/11.  As I continued digging I combined my name with nostradamus and to my big surprise there is some quatrains. Don't get this the wrong way now. There is lot's of people that have my first name and I'm no hero. I want to be as far away of that as I can. And nostradamus is also no exact science.

Anyhow, one of the quatrians of Nostradamus is this one. Or these ones :

X 89

Sept ans ƒera Philipp. fortune preƒpere,
Rabaiƒƒera des Arabes l'effort,
Puis ƒon midy perplex, rebours affaire,
Ieuƒne oignion abiƒmera ƒon fort.

For seven years fortune will favor Philip,
He will beat down again the exertions of the Arabs:
Then at his noon perplexing contrary affair,
Young Ogmios will destroy his stronghold.

Ogmios is something like Hercules from the greek. What it means that Young Ogmios will destroy the stronghold of Philip ? I don't know.  In french it is "fort" which means the "strong" of Philip. Some translations talk about a fortified castle or so but that's not correct in my opinion. 

Another one is VIII 81 - there is a third one in fact and in my opinion many others also about a big war.

This could be an atomic bomb on the United States. Sicily is in Italy. It could be muslims attacking ROme ???

VIII 81
Le neuf empire en desolation,
Sera changé du pole aquilonaire,
De la Sicile viendra l'emotion,
Troubler l'emprise à Philip. tributaire.

The new empire in desolation
will be changed from the Northern Pole.
From Sicily will come such trouble that
it will bother the enterprise tributary to Philip.


It's all just a guess and again, I only got interested because of a coincidence. I don't have any megalomanic ideas and I'm not Bruce Willis neither.

I really have to go.  Maybe I'll have a look in spain in the hotel ???

Kaeren ( or Philip if you want ).

PS : Maybe this whole discussion is out of place in the crossdresser section ???
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: traci5225 on December 14, 2007, 05:58:41 PM
very nice
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: barbie on December 23, 2007, 07:33:30 AM
Quote from: Kaeren on December 13, 2007, 10:15:59 AM
I speak French where I work. It's not perfect but you wouldn't notice I am not a native speaker for a while.  1999 = mil neuf cents nonante neuf. I didn't understand your explanation about it. 

As I know, 99 = quatre vingts dix neuf (4x20 + 19), but I am not quite sure.

Barbie~~
Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Keira on December 23, 2007, 08:29:32 AM

Nonante is a Belgium variation :-).
But you got it right Barbie with the 99 = quatre vingts dix neuf.
I'm a French native speaker, though I use so much english in life that this is
starting to be debatable :-).

Title: Re: Pictures of my favorite style
Post by: Kaeren on December 23, 2007, 11:58:47 AM
We also say septante. Instead of soixante-dix.  I did not know this is only done in Belgium. Thinking about it, this aspect never drew my attention. Only thing is Belgium did not exist at the time of Nostradamus.  So where does the nonante come from then ?

http://www.sacred-texts.com/nos/index.htm

Look at quatrian IV 77 once.  This is always translated in the wrong way in English. Belsique is obviously Belgium, Belgique in the French from today. Still the translation is Blois soil.  Same question of course. Belgium did not exist when Nostradamus lived. Maybe I don't know the hisytory of my own country.  Julius Caesar however said that the Belgian people were the bravest of all in his Bellum Gallicum.

My father spoke French, my mother Dutch.  Belgium is in fact divided in a French part and in a Dutch part ( and also a very small German part ).  We are in a political crisis.  The French and the Dutch always fight.  In fact the one who tried to make the government for almost 200 days after the elections said the French were either unwilling or too stupid to learn Dutch. One of the reasons why there was such a big resistance after the elections from the French and why he finally failed.

I'm a Dutch native speaker.  Where I work I speak French and at home I speak English. Or sometimes some Russian words but not much.  However being Dutch is not good for a career where I work because we are a bit discriminated. If we sit at a table for a discussion or meeting and there is 9 Dutch speaking and 1 French speaking then everybody will speak French.  Because the French person is normally unable to speak Dutch. My friend from work is also French for example.  And it is no use trying to speak Dutch because she simply is not able to.

And about Nostradamus, the name of the future king of Belgium is by the way Filip.  That is not the same as Philip but it sounds the same.