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Title: Coming off estrogen and anti androgens
Post by: chastitydomme on July 20, 2017, 05:04:58 AM
Since my evolution continues and my apt for srs draws near, I slowly went off all hormones and anti androgens.
I gradually observed my pain tolerance going up and my body becoming more cut and defined.  I crave meat and I  want to engage in gross motor activities, splitting wood, biking and hiking. My voice is deep and commanding!

I lost my ability to write for long periods of time and not as articulate as I was a month ago, I am quite absentminded. My compassion and concerns for others has decreased and I feel less romantic. I am less sensitive and too male. I don't even want to talk about the body hair, yuk!

My cock is thick again and has become a pestilence, I honestly don't like touching it or having it touched.
I want to have sex all the time (oral and strap-on). Since I gravitate to the female form, it is hard to converse with women without thinking of everything I want to do with them. I have been go to two play parties a week, this helps burn off some sexual/physical energy.

Argh, it is so distracting being charged up all the time, the finer things in life seem to pass me by.

I feel so primal and unevolved! "Me Tarzan, You Jane"

It is quite interesting how left brained we become on estrogen and anti.
But I must digress here, I like being balanced, a little t and a little e, for me the best of both worlds!  I felt perfect 1.5 months ago. But the tight body is quite welcome, sans the hair.

Whilst I don't feel unstable, I am experiencing a bit of  solace in the fact that this is temporary and I will be back to feeling right again.
Title: Re: Coming off estrogen and anti androgens
Post by: Thessa on July 20, 2017, 06:46:04 AM


Quote from: chastitydomme on July 20, 2017, 05:04:58 AM
Since my evolution continues and my apt for srs draws near, I slowly went off all hormones and anti androgens.
I slowly observed my pain tolerance going up and my body tightening up. No more jiggles and lots of energy. But I lost my ability to write for long periods of time and I am not as articulate as I was a month ago.

My drive is off the map and I want to have sex all the time. Since I gravitate to the female form, it is hard to converse with women without thinking of everything I want to do with them. Argh it is so distracting being charged up all the time, the finer things in life seem to pass me by.

It is quite interesting how left brained we become on estrogen and anti. I crave meat and want to engage in gross motor activities. Whilst I don't feel unstable, I am experiencing a bit of  solace in the fact that this is temporary and I will be back to feeling right again.

That's interesting, I didn't feel the same way the last few weeks but I was question everything again. I was contemplating if GCS is a mistake and if there is a way back, etc.

Since Monday I'm allowed estrogen again and I feel good again, not questioning my decision for surgery, instead I'm really happy with my new equipment.
Title: Re: Coming off estrogen and anti androgens
Post by: chastitydomme on July 20, 2017, 06:57:30 AM
I hope your body is finally aligned with your self image

I stopped using my "equipment" to penetrate in 2013. So srs is a no brainer.


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Title: Re: Coming off estrogen and anti androgens
Post by: KayXo on July 20, 2017, 10:43:04 AM
I'm realizing now, since being post-op several years with very little T and only E (and P), that I feel better with some T. More balanced, healthier. I feel stronger too. I like it. And so what if there's a little more body hair? You can always wax it, laser it or resort to electrolysis. Orgasms are also so much more enjoyable.   :angel:

Title: Re: Coming off estrogen and anti androgens
Post by: chastitydomme on July 20, 2017, 10:50:03 AM
Wow this is the reply I was looking for, whilst I am not an endocrinologist it was my hunch I would have to go on a little t and a little e to find the bio chemical symbiance I was enjoying. I wasn't sure if it was going to be a no no no post op?

I can't wait for multiple post op orgasms and no after mess.

thank you so much
Chas
Title: Re: Coming off estrogen and anti androgens
Post by: Dena on July 20, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
Kay was zero when her testosterone levels were tested and that could reduce the sexual experience. A woman needs some testosterone though at very low level. Because some women also suffer from low T, there are patches available that give them just a little boost. In my case, my post surgical levels are mid range feminine so I need neither blockers or supplements to have proper T levels. You should have your T levels checked about 3 months post surgical to see if you natural levels are acceptable or if a supplement is required.
Title: Re: Coming off estrogen and anti androgens
Post by: KayXo on July 20, 2017, 06:42:59 PM
Mine was quite low, yes, around 0.1-0.3 nmol/L (3-9 ng/dl) total T and free T below detectable levels. HOWEVER, I wouldn't go by levels because some women find they do well with very low, others need much more, perhaps in the upper range and some do well on mid-range. Every woman is different. Go more by symptoms, how you feel, how your sex drive is, your general physical state (muscle mass, cellulite, body fat, etc.). These alone, in my opinion, will give you a good indication of whether T is needed. Then, discuss this with your doctor. It's also wise, I think, to also try E and P before, just in case, these, in high enough doses for YOU, might suffice. Been there, done that! :)

I personally don't think we should compare ourselves to ciswomen as far as sex hormone levels go because we, having been exposed to a different hormonal milieu in-utero and prior to HRT, may have a very different sensitivity to hormones such that we need more E or less T or whatever. Symptoms (physical/psychological cues) can tell us much more about what we need, and how much.
Title: Re: Coming off estrogen and anti androgens
Post by: chastitydomme on July 20, 2017, 06:48:49 PM
I would like to thank everyone for there feedback on this. I think at the end of the day it is how you feel. But you also need to have close monitoring to ensure you are in a healthy range, this is why you never self administer.

Chas
Title: Re: Coming off estrogen and anti androgens
Post by: KayXo on July 20, 2017, 06:51:16 PM
T levels in men can go as high as 1,000 ng/dl, E levels in women as high as 75,000 pg/ml, P levels as high as 300 ng/ml.

Best of luck to you in your journey and with SRS. :)
Title: Re: Coming off estrogen and anti androgens
Post by: LizK on July 20, 2017, 06:58:58 PM
I will be talking to my Dr about this exact thing on Tuesday. My T has been so low for so long I want it close to normal female range even it is at the low end. Last reading the report basically said there was not enough to really detect and it was <0.05ng

From what has been said here a healthy level is good for general health in women