Do binding can make you lose sensation in the nipple area ?
Nope
It's kinda scary to think about it an non-op person who may bind til their death.
Anyway, about this post, I remember that breast cancer claim associated with chest compressing were proven fake a while ago, I have no idea about the other claims they made.
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Quote from: Undead Cat on July 23, 2017, 04:53:51 AM
It's kinda scary to think about it an non-op person who may bind til their death.
Anyway, about this post, I remember that breast cancer claim associated with chest compressing were proven fake a while ago, I have no idea about the other claims they made.
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Well you can either not take the risk and not feel mentally at your best or take the risk and feel good about yourself. In live we all have to make those choices about different things.
Other time (I'm talking years) binding can cause your breasts to sag slightly though.
Yeah I also heard wearing a bra at night has been disputed as leading to breast cancer too.
Oh yeah , I found who claimed this:
"A warning about binding wrong (ace bandages, back braces, things not designed for it) or too long (too long being over years), apparently these are all risks (from a trans forum, the person posting it had first-hand accounts from transguys) :
bruising and fracturing of ribs
pulmonary (lung ) problems
small vessel damge and tissue injury
back issues
low blood flow to the heart resulting in a mild heart attack
decreased lung compacity (lungs only functioning to 30 and 40 %)
binding, according to one doctor tends to throw clots out and in turn can be yet another (in addition to that low blood flow) cause of heart attacks
Costochondritis -an Inflamation of the ribs. The person who developed this condition also stated that after 6 years of binding his chest is completly deformed (the ribs are compressed into his lungs) and his doctor has great fear from the pockets of muscles that have shifted. (he only used underworks binders)
cut of the blood flow through the lymph-nodes in the breast area. This could cause clots, damage to your circulation and lead to lymphatic cancer due to the bacteria build up and clogging of the lymph-nodes. There have been reports about clots, blood clots and lack or circulation causing numbness and permanent"
There's also an article in the blog janitorqueer about people complaining about binding side effects that kinda depressed me.
I hate being in the position of weighting psychological and physical discomfort , I wish I had more people to talk to, idk sometimes I feel so guilty for sacrificing my physical health for my little to no dysphoria that I just learned to get over a while ago. Sometimes I think maybe I even regret not doing anything. *sigh*
Quote from: Undead Cat on July 23, 2017, 05:12:07 AM
Oh yeah , I found who claimed this:
"A warning about binding wrong (ace bandages, back braces, things not designed for it) or too long (too long being over years), apparently these are all risks (from a trans forum, the person posting it had first-hand accounts from transguys) :
bruising and fracturing of ribs
pulmonary (lung ) problems
small vessel damge and tissue injury
back issues
low blood flow to the heart resulting in a mild heart attack
decreased lung compacity (lungs only functioning to 30 and 40 %)
binding, according to one doctor tends to throw clots out and in turn can be yet another (in addition to that low blood flow) cause of heart attacks
Costochondritis -an Inflamation of the ribs. The person who developed this condition also stated that after 6 years of binding his chest is completly deformed (the ribs are compressed into his lungs) and his doctor has great fear from the pockets of muscles that have shifted. (he only used underworks binders)
cut of the blood flow through the lymph-nodes in the breast area. This could cause clots, damage to your circulation and lead to lymphatic cancer due to the bacteria build up and clogging of the lymph-nodes. There have been reports about clots, blood clots and lack or circulation causing numbness and permanent"
There's also an article in the blog janitorqueer about people complaining about binding side effects that kinda depressed me.
I hate being in the position of weighting psychological and physical discomfort , I wish I had more people to talk to, idk sometimes I feel so guilty for sacrificing my physical health for my little to no dysphoria that I just learned to get over a while ago. Sometimes I think maybe I even regret not doing anything. *sigh*
As long as you buy a safe binder; Underworks or GC2B is better as it's designed for trans mens body's; these risks won't happen as the material is made to be breathable and not to crush your rib cage. I've had no pain whatsoever after wearing a GC2B binder and am able to take full lung fulls of air like I would be able to do without binding. I think cis women are in more danger of these types if side effects as many wear the wrong size bra without realising it.
You deserve to feel comfortable in your own body; the amount of dysphoria you have doesn't matter. If you feel just a little bit if discomfort not wearing a binder it's still best wearing one so you can actually enjoy your day rather than just coasting through it trying to cope. Similarly if someone has very mild asthma and doesn't want the trouble or possible side effects of an asthma inhaler; but I'm sure we both agree it's best for them to carry one just so they're not simply coping trying to breath but actually able to 100% function.
Oh , I found it : https://janitorqueer.com/2016/06/21/28-risks-of-chest-binding/
Looking at stuff like this I just feel uncomfortable transitioning, anyway I'm not suicidal or emotionally exhausted , my dysphagia is very small , I'm not even out to nearly anyone, my dysphoria is so small that I feel like if I change my life I'll be doing more bad to myself in comparison with me not changing my life.
Ugh, it's a curse not being cis nor "Trans enough", my insecurities and anxiety are killing me more than my dysphoria.
Funny you mentioned asthma, I suffer from it , I don't want surgeries but even if binding makes me more happy with my appearance, I would still have psychological issues bc my concern with my physical health that is already ->-bleeped-<-ty without hrt and binders.
Thx for caring.
Quote from: Undead Cat on July 23, 2017, 05:31:45 AM
Oh , I found it : https://janitorqueer.com/2016/06/21/28-risks-of-chest-binding/
Looking at stuff like this I just feel uncomfortable transitioning, anyway I'm not suicidal or emotionally exhausted , my dysphagia is very small , I'm not even out to nearly anyone, my dysphoria is so small that I feel like if I change my life I'll be doing more bad to myself in comparison with me not changing my life.
Ugh, it's a curse not being cis nor "Trans enough", my insecurities and anxiety are killing me more than my dysphoria.
Funny you mentioned asthma, I suffer from it , I don't want surgeries but even if binding makes me more happy with my appearance, I would still have psychological issues bc my concern with my physical health that is already ->-bleeped-<-ty without hrt and binders.
Thx for caring.
IMO if you're constantly thinking about being trans then it's best to do something about it; even if you only want to socially transition. Maybe therapy for both transgender issues and anxiety would be best.
I can understand where you're coming from though. I hope this forum helps you.
Glad to help :)
I don't have much nipple sensation but I never had much nipple sensation, don't know why, but binding for 6 years hasn't changed that at all.
For me, I had barely any dysphoria for a while, but it slowly ramped up for a couple of years. I felt better binding but I didn't feel bad without it. I felt better being gendered male but I didn't feel too bad if I didn't. For me it slowly ramped up though and at the point where I finally started T and came out, I wasn't suicidal by any means, but I could see that if I let myself continue, it would eventually reach that point because it was getting worse every time I had a depressive episode. But the point is that they weren't there yet. Everyone experiences dysphoria differently, and if something might make you even a slight bit happier, it's worth considering :)
I can understand you on the asthma. I have exercise-induced asthma so in my normal day to day it doesn't affect me, but then it does flare up BADLY at inconvenient times such as climbing flights of stairs or my newer job that involves some heavy lifting at times. It ultimately is a large contributing factor to my urgency for top surgery now, because the asthma is just so hard to deal with after 3 years of consistent binding and 3 more before that of more occassional. Binding long term does cause physical problems and it's good to be aware of so that when the time comes, you can decide if you'd rather stop binding or get surgery. If your end goal is never surgery, then being mindful of when and how much you bind can go a long way. Limiting to short periods, not binding every single day, and wearing a looser binder may all be things that could help you stay healthy while binding.
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Hi Undead cat,
I must admit I am puzzled by your several thread that seem to run the gamut of transness by asking widely differing topics. IE trans male hormone effects, trans female hormone effects, non transitioning and hormones and now FtM binding. Are you doing a research project for school or for an article? Or do you need this diverse information for some personal reason I can't fathom? It just strikes me as strange.
Hugs,
Laurie
Quote from: Laurie on July 23, 2017, 10:50:15 AM
Hi Undead cat,
I must admit I am puzzled by your several thread that seem to run the gamut of transness by asking widely differing topics. IE trans male hormone effects, trans female hormone effects, non transitioning and hormones and now FtM binding. Are you doing a research project for school or for an article? Or do you need this diverse information for some personal reason I can't fathom? It just strikes me as strange.
Hugs,
Laurie
For short, I'm non-binary and my identity has a "big part mtf and another part ftm included to it", I know it sounds odd, but I'm on the middle of the spectrum . I am also a biology college student so my curiosity towards gender and sex subjects is intriguing.
Quote from: Elis on July 23, 2017, 05:52:53 AM
IMO if you're constantly thinking about being trans then it's best to do something about it; even if you only want to socially transition. Maybe therapy for both transgender issues and anxiety would be best.
I can understand where you're coming from though. I hope this forum helps you.
Glad to help :)
I can't do anything sadly, even socially transitioning will just scare me more. I guess there's nothing I can do , other than feeling bad for myself and accept I'll always be stuck like this bc otherwise sounds worst compared to now.
Quote from: Undead Cat on July 23, 2017, 04:39:09 PM
For short, I'm non-binary and my identity has a "big part mtf and another part ftm included to it", I know it sounds odd, but I'm on the middle of the spectrum . I am also a biology college student so my curiosity towards gender and sex subjects is intriguing.
Okay Undead Cat,
I can accept that. I'm sorry if I offended you the fault is mine. I have already admitted that I don't really understand no binary or gender fluid besides the basic explanations.
I saw your next post and want to say the only thing stopping you from moving forward is yourself and fear of the unknown. I understand that fear very well as I had to live with it most of my life and the stigma of the times that I was not only wrong in my desires but a pervert and a deviate. I grew up knowing that what I thought and wanted was wrong. It took me many years to overcome this social programing to decide that it was not those things. You to can overcome your fears if you want to. I wish you godspeed and good luck in doing so.
Hugs,
Laurie
Quote from: Laurie on July 23, 2017, 05:17:58 PM
Okay Undead Cat,
I can accept that. I'm sorry if I offended you the fault is mine. I have already admitted that I don't really understand no binary or gender fluid besides the basic explanations.
I saw your next post and want to say the only thing stopping you from moving forward is yourself and fear of the unknown. I understand that fear very well as I had to live with it most of my life and the stigma of the times that I was not only wrong in my desires but a pervert and a deviate. I grew up knowing that what I thought and wanted was wrong. It took me many years to overcome this social programing to decide that it was not those things. You to can overcome your fears if you want to. I wish you godspeed and good luck in doing so.
Hugs,
Laurie
it's OK, you didn't offend me anyway, I can relate to this, big part of my fear of transitioning socially or physically has to do with my fear towards people , I grew up surrounded by hatred and feeling bad for existing , I still feel that hatred from people even without transitioning , part of my fear comes from my belief that transition will make it worst. I just can't deal with it, I'm weak and alone.
Yeah, non-binary people can be confusing, we even confuse ourselves sometimes, going back and forward, back and forward, it's hard to elaborate plans that way. 😧
I've been binding for five years now, and I haven't noticed any long-term decrease in sensation.
I've caused myself temporary numbness by positioning things wrong, with the nipple pinched backwards or something. And you can cause injury or chaffing by not putting your hand over your nipple when you adjust everything, letting it drag across the rough mesh most binders have. But both those things are very much avoidable. I just get lazy or rushed on occasion.
You can get safe, decent quality binders for about $30. Definitely cheaper than a decent bra in my size. Because it's such a small investment, I'd recommend at least trying it to see if it causes any ill effects before rejecting the idea outright. Unless you do something really reckless like heavy lifting the first time you wear it, you will feel some form of discomfort that shows something's not right before you manage to do any permanent damage.
My nipple sensation got worse actually. As in more feel.
I personally hate it. I´ve been binding for two years.
Might ease your mind ;)
Edit to add: Loveboat (and CG2B) binders are easy on the chest.
Do you guys feel numb around the nipples? How long have you been binding ? Is anyone non-op?
Quote from: Undead Cat on July 26, 2017, 06:25:41 PM
Do you guys feel numb around the nipples? How long have you been binding ? Is anyone non-op?
Don't feel numb at all and been binding constantly for 3 years.
No, the sensation has remained exactly the same. I´m non-op atm.
I actually have the exact opposite question as you do. I have no intention of hijacking your thread though - if you want, I will take it elsewhere.
I was wondering if guys have experienced increased sensitivity / soreness / stiffness in the nipples due to binding or perhaps due to T.
Quote from: November Fox on July 28, 2017, 06:42:36 AM
No, the sensation has remained exactly the same. I´m non-op atm.
I actually have the exact opposite question as you do. I have no intention of hijacking your thread though - if you want, I will take it elsewhere.
I was wondering if guys have experienced increased sensitivity / soreness / stiffness in the nipples due to binding or perhaps due to T.
I haven't experienced any of those things either.
Like I said, I've experienced temporary nipple numbness and a prickly feeling, of the same kind as when your hand or foot falls asleep from sitting on it, when my nipples were positioned the wrong way in the binder for too long. But sensation came back once I repositioned and got circulation back. Just like when it happens to a hand or foot.
Quote from: November Fox on July 28, 2017, 06:42:36 AM
I was wondering if guys have experienced increased sensitivity / soreness / stiffness in the nipples due to binding or perhaps due to T.
Not from binding. I bound for several years without that happening. But I swear they got more tender/sensitive my first 2-3 months on T. That seems to have lessened over time, though. Or maybe I'm just used to it?