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Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: unicorn on February 04, 2006, 01:15:33 PM

Title: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: unicorn on February 04, 2006, 01:15:33 PM
hey everyone!!

Okay so my brand new GF has joined... and I can't remain in hiding anymore... will therefore become active here again, posting ... 

thought I might give this forum section another chance of coming to live... i mean, REALLY...

It cant be that the very few peeps who;ve posted in this section are the only ones who see themselves as genderqueer out of all 750-something members of this site!!!
where are you?? who are you? what are you? why?


looking forward to your replies... and secretly hoping that some lurkers will come out of the woodworks with me, hehe  :D

cheers 4 queers!

Alex
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: HelenW on February 04, 2006, 01:27:22 PM
Whenever I've been called a queer I say, "Queer but not gay!"

But I'm still in the middle of finding out who/what/where I am in the continuum.  Right now I feel like I'm in between both genders so I guess I fit somewhere within the genderqueer definition but I still feel that I'm moving and have not found my true place, if you can imagine what I mean.  I am presnting more and more with attributes from both ends of the spectrum, though.

I wonder if the negative connotations of the word, "queer" have something to do with the lack of posts here?

h
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: unicorn on February 05, 2006, 02:27:56 PM
wow! one reply!
Thanx a bunch, Helen!

I'm not sure that the negative connotations are a big issue... I mean, queer is one of those pejorative terms that is being reclaimed effectively... though maybe the meaning of queer as genderqueer as opposed to queer standing for homosexual is not that widely known yet. Several people have told me they did not know the TG meaning of "queer".

For me all meanings of the word apply, I'm queer in every w(h)i(t)ch g(w)ay!

Anyone else???

x
Alex the gendersWitch (sWizard ???)


Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: Sophie on February 10, 2006, 10:29:40 AM
Well, I don't really know. I might be genderqueer, I'm still trying to figure everything out. Though I am pretty sure I'm more male than female, it's finding out just how much more that is the problem right now.

I geuss I'll figure it out eventually. :)
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: jamesBrine on February 11, 2006, 02:33:53 AM
hello!
   Very interesting question! I hope my response will be of some use or intrest. I do not know where I am. I know i'm male (physically) but there has been continual thoughts about "it did feel good to CD." I see myself as a male and I want to be one but i find it hard to come to a balance between my male characteristics and female characterisitics without seperating the two. Its a daily struggle but I know with each day I grow stronger. I apologize if this is off topic at all but this is how I feel about my gender.
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: melissa_girl on February 13, 2006, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: jamesBrine on February 11, 2006, 02:33:53 AM
hello!
   Very interesting question! I hope my response will be of some use or intrest. I do not know where I am. I know i'm male (physically) but there has been continual thoughts about "it did feel good to CD." I see myself as a male and I want to be one but i find it hard to come to a balance between my male characteristics and female characterisitics without seperating the two. Its a daily struggle but I know with each day I grow stronger. I apologize if this is off topic at all but this is how I feel about my gender.

That's one of the big differences between a transsexual and a crossdresser.  The crossdresser is perfectly fine being their birth gender, whereas the transsexual can't stand it and has to transition.

Melissa
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: Kimberly on February 13, 2006, 04:04:05 PM
Quote from: melissa_girl on February 13, 2006, 03:29:57 PM
That's one of the big differences between a transsexual and a crossdresser.  The crossdresser is perfectly fine being their birth gender, whereas the transsexual can't stand it and has to transition.

Melissa
In addition to that, often (not always!) a transsexual tends to wait until they simply cannot deal with their birth sex any longer and it becomes a "choice" of transition, or die.  I SO envy the young among us in this regard, realizing and acting upon while not encumbered by the situations adult life tends to throw at us.
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: gina_taylor on February 13, 2006, 04:08:25 PM
This is very interesting.

Because I'm a M2F transsexual, and because I'm atracted to men, society calls me as being gay, but I really like HelenW's reply. Whenever someone tells me that I'm gay, I'll just tell them that I'm not gay but I'm 'QUEER," and I'll leave it at that.

I really like your thoughts Melissa, on the differences between a cross-dresser and a transsexual. I  agree  100% with you there.

Gina
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: Sarah Louise on February 13, 2006, 04:12:00 PM
I agree with Melissa also.  Young transsexual people now have it better than we did, there is more information available now than when I was young.

Sarah L.
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: Kimberly on February 13, 2006, 05:49:46 PM
Just as a side note, genderqueer (https://www.susans.org/wiki/Genderqueer) isn't about sexual orientation, rather about basically identifying as neither female nor male.

P.s. when someone tries to peg me in some sexual orientation or another I always want to know why they care...  >:D
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: Alexandra on February 13, 2006, 10:57:27 PM
I'm finding the word "queer" to be used to describe anyone "not normal" (as interpreted by mainstream society). So, we're all queer!

8)
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: jan c on April 22, 2006, 10:49:43 AM
"Queer", if you look it up in a dictionary, will usually have the basic definition "peculiar; rare", before any particular reference, such as 'a male homosexual'. EG: Queer as a three-dollar bill. 
I am at least as queer as that!
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: Transguykid on May 31, 2006, 07:18:59 PM
Quote from: Steven on February 10, 2006, 10:29:40 AM
Though I am pretty sure I'm more male than female, it's finding out just how much more that is the problem right now.

Wow! That's pretty much how I feel! I'm more male than female, but am I enough to transition? Will a breast reduction and excercise satisfy my self-image? Big questions that I think about all the time. I do like women's clothing a bit, so i think if I transitioned I would crossdress sometimes. While I'm more comfortable in men's clothing, it gets boring sometimes!
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: michelle on May 31, 2006, 10:50:21 PM
I feel each of us has to find their own way.   We can just shed a light on the journey and walk with each other for a while as fellow human beings.   There are pot holes in everybodies life.   When I fall into one,  I am thankful for those who help me crawl out.    I also thank those who shined their light of understanding for me and kept me from falling into some really deep pot holes.    I may not know where I am going.   I just hope that I know when I get there. ;D
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: Melissa on June 02, 2006, 04:01:58 PM
Quote from: Transguykid on May 31, 2006, 07:18:59 PM
Wow! That's pretty much how I feel! I'm more male than female, but am I enough to transition? Will a breast reduction and excercise satisfy my self-image? Big questions that I think about all the time. I do like women's clothing a bit, so i think if I transitioned I would crossdress sometimes. While I'm more comfortable in men's clothing, it gets boring sometimes!

That's very interesting.  I've never heard an FTM talk about liking female clothes (nothing wrong with that IMO).  If you did transition and crossdress, you would at least have the advantage of having a female skeleton, and therefore a much easier time passing, than the traditional CDs.  PErsonally, I can't think of any reason you couldn't just wear male clothes now.  If it's about removing breasts, having male sex drive, strong muscles and lots of hair all over your body, then transition may be something to consider.

Melissa
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: sheila18 on June 14, 2006, 12:36:17 AM
 my point is that the word queer has lost its punch.
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: stephanie_craxford on June 14, 2006, 06:26:45 AM
Quote from: Transguykid on May 31, 2006, 07:18:59 PM
Wow! That's pretty much how I feel! I'm more male than female, but am I enough to transition? Will a breast reduction and excercise satisfy my self-image? Big questions that I think about all the time. I do like women's clothing a bit, so i think if I transitioned I would crossdress sometimes. While I'm more comfortable in men's clothing, it gets boring sometimes!

Got to agree mens clothing is very boring.  It's too bad that there is such opposition to men wearing the pretty colours that women are able to with out being considered gay.

Steph
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: jan c on June 14, 2006, 09:13:13 AM
Quote from: Stephanie Craxford on June 14, 2006, 06:26:45 AM
Got to agree mens clothing is very boring.  It's too bad that there is such opposition to men wearing the pretty colours that women are able to with out being considered gay.

Steph
historically speaking the 'gay color' (a predilection for gay colors) is a lot to do with "gay" eventually indicating "homo". When did the male develop an aversion to this?


Quote from: sheila18 on June 14, 2006, 12:36:17 AM

One thing that in the community where I live is that TG does not equals with pathetic. And queer has that connotation. I admire strong women and I want to be...I am one of them not a pathetic weak, indecisive, brainless, incapable of fighting girl, this is how stright folk around here see it. They think twice before messing with a TG. Not so with a queer who seems to invite getting abused. When did this change happened? I do not know exactly, somewhere in the late 90's. Ru Paul is TG, Michael Jackson is queer. Dennis Rodman is weird!

gotta love Dennis. some folx see a tall ->-bleeped-<-, think: 'well, could be a Dennis Rodman better not mess with that one'.
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: sheila18 on June 14, 2006, 11:24:20 AM
good morning!
community is a good word for me and my friends. It will be a good day when all my communities become one.
Love and light, Sheila.
                                       Time will pass, Will you?
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: stephanie_craxford on June 14, 2006, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: jan c on June 14, 2006, 09:13:13 AM
historically speaking the 'gay color' (a predilection for gay colors) is a lot to do with "gay" eventually indicating "homo". When did the male develop an aversion to this?

Who knows.  I know at my work I wore a brightly coloured shirts and one of the comments from a UPS driver was "what did you do raid your wifes closet".  I said "yes do you like it".  People can be idiots.

Steph
Title: Re: Calling all queers!!!
Post by: sheila18 on June 29, 2006, 12:04:36 PM
interesting
sheila