Hi....I am desperately hoping this gets read by someone who can help. I am considering going to Dr. John O'Dea in Marina Del Rey for my hormone therapy and using his pellet method, the most aggressive that he has. His office said he also offers a "hormone cocktail" called "Pink Panther" that they say really stimulates boob growth (rounds them out more, etc.) I am in my 50s so I'm not sure if anything will have any effect on me. Plus, it's hugely expensive.
So, I'd love to hear from anyone who has seen Dr. O'Dea to hear your experiences. Also, I'd love to know if anyone my age has tried pellets and how they worked. Finally, if you've seen Dr. O'Dea and tried the hormone cocktail, what was your experience like? Please let me know when you can as I want to schedule this....just need to be sure. Thanks!
Hi, Allannah. Welcome to Susan's!
I don't know anything about that doctor or his hormone cocktail. However, I am 62, started HRT 7 months ago, and I am getting good breast development. Sure, I'd like them to be growing faster, but I can't really complain. They look good. I am on plain Estradiol and Spiro.
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Thank yoU! I really appreciate it. I was taking a shot in the dark hoping someone might know of Dr. O'Dea or his "cocktail." It's good to know that I can still get some changes at my age. I don't expect a lot, but as long as at least I can see and feel something happening, that's important. Thanks again and if you have any advice on where else I might be able to find anyone who has gone to him - I know he's very popular - please let me know if you get a chance!
Quote from: MsAllannah1! on September 05, 2017, 07:53:08 PM
Hi....I am desperately hoping this gets read by someone who can help. I am considering going to Dr. John O'Dea in Marina Del Rey for my hormone therapy and using his pellet method, the most aggressive that he has. His office said he also offers a "hormone cocktail" called "Pink Panther" that they say really stimulates boob growth (rounds them out more, etc.) I am in my 50s so I'm not sure if anything will have any effect on me. Plus, it's hugely expensive.
So, I'd love to hear from anyone who has seen Dr. O'Dea to hear your experiences. Also, I'd love to know if anyone my age has tried pellets and how they worked. Finally, if you've seen Dr. O'Dea and tried the hormone cocktail, what was your experience like? Please let me know when you can as I want to schedule this....just need to be sure. Thanks!
I did my research and I was going to go to him. Then I found my current doctor. And she is going to be starting my friend on Pellets. At least its sound like it. I went on pellets 2 months after I started injections. I had to start with injections because I quit once before and she wanted to make sure I was going to stick with it.
My opinion is my doctor knows her shiznit. I mentioned dr Odea and but I don't remember honestly what she said about him. But what ever it was she convinced me I would get the same results. And I was pretty much set on going to Dr odea. If you want my doctors contact info. She is in Buena Park. So let me know if that's doable and I will get you her info. As you know everybody is different. But I am at a full B Cup a year in. They just last month went from a little pointy to filling out like they are supposed to. You know. I don't know how to explain. But they look like boobs are supposed to now. And they are still growing. They started growing when I started hrt and they keep growing. And won't stop. I was hoping to not do all the growth so fast. So I can hide for a while. I'm not out and trying not to for a while. But no I am a guy with noticeable boobs. And depending on the bra. Very noticeable. Oh and I am 50 my friend is 47 and she is starting I think Monday. So to some it up. He is good at what he does. He does a great job. That's why I was seriously think of him. Ok to some it up. Let try one more time. I am 50 with good boob growth. No signs of stopping. I am on spironolactone, Estradiol Pellets and Progesterone. My tolerance for anything is high. So I was expecting nothing at normal female dosages. But I am very happy. I don't think anybody could have done better with me. And my doctor is sweet and cares about me. And the last I researched Dr Odea. The last person said they could not get ahold of him for a while then did. And I heard some major things were going on with him. Hopefully I'm wrong or he has them all taken care of. But if my doctor did not exist I would be at his door. Not many do Pellets in socal. Only Dr Odea and my Doctor did pellets and specialized in trans patients. When I did my initial research. And I won't settle for anything but pellets.
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All changes to our bodies are due to the hormones and anti-androgens in our body. The delivery system is secondary. Yes pellets are very effective and you do not need to remember to take them. They just work for a period of time and then you replace them. I do not know what this cocktail of Dr O'Dea is. Unless the hormones used are disclosed, I would be skeptical.
Hormones are not the only factor in breast growth. Some of us ladies have big breasts and others not so big. After typical female estrogen blood levels, genetics and some degree of obesity determine our eventual breast size.
Quote from: MsAllannah1! on September 05, 2017, 08:03:29 PM
Thank yoU! I really appreciate it. I was taking a shot in the dark hoping someone might know of Dr. O'Dea or his "cocktail." It's good to know that I can still get some changes at my age. I don't expect a lot, but as long as at least I can see and feel something happening, that's important. Thanks again and if you have any advice on where else I might be able to find anyone who has gone to him - I know he's very popular - please let me know if you get a chance!
There was a girl named Jenny I think when I started on Susan's years ago. She was my idle. She is exactly what I want to be but know I never will. Recently found her in my surgery doctor app. Forgot the name. I'll look. If you can find her story. You will be floored. But she was an Odea girl. She is why I was going to go to him. I'll look for her if you want. I think she is still around here too. But I don't think you can go wrong results wise. But I rather have someone like mine.
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Wow! Thank you all for your answers. I am new and can't figure out how to answer individually so it has to be this group message for now. First, I am in the San Fernando Valley and while Buena Park isn't close, I can definitely get there. And given all that everyone is saying about O'Dea, maybe it's good not to go and find someone else. I just want someone who can help me achieve good results at my age, and I know I want progesterone as I hear that is what helps boobs really fill out. The nurse I spoke to with O'Dea did a great sales job, especially the mention of the progesterone-laced Pink Panther cocktail.
It's also good to know that someone in late 50s might see some results. Have you seen more differences than just boobs? Butt? Hips? Face? Reduction in body hair or more hair growth on your head? Sorry to inundate with questions but I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing.....even if I don't transition and just do hormones. Would you all say you're happy having decided to do hormones and that no matter what, no matter how slight the changes, you feel better even seeing small boobs or little fat shifting on your body?
Thanks and please please please tell me everything! Including the Buena Park info....that doctor does believe in progesterone?
And yes, if you find Jenny's story, I'd love to hear it.
Quote from: MsAllannah1! on September 05, 2017, 10:09:15 PM
And yes, if you find Jenny's story, I'd love to hear it.
Ok I'll answer this one first. Back when I was just lurking I came across Jennygirl less than a year into her transition. She has done a lot since. But I started following her journey when the only she did was start hrt. That How I found her. I was researching pellets. So if you want to see her story you can do some homework. I found her again on this site and just added her to my buddie list. So if you go to my profile you can go to hers and read her posts from the start. Also the app I saw her in again was RealSelf. And her name is not the same. It's Jennygirlinla. She is why I almost went to Odea. I can try to post a screenshot of it later. Her realself profile.
Thanks! I tried to check out your profile but must have done it wrong. Kept getting a message saying I didn't have access. I'll try to find Jenny through RealSelf but please do post a shot of her if you can. Thanks again! And I'm hoping that somehow, someone who knows about O'Dea or the effect of pellets on old folks like me will answer.
Quote from: MsAllannah1! on September 05, 2017, 09:57:46 PM
Wow! Thank you all for your answers. I am new and can't figure out how to answer individually so it has to be this group message for now. First, I am in the San Fernando Valley and while Buena Park isn't close, I can definitely get there. And given all that everyone is saying about O'Dea, maybe it's good not to go and find someone else. I just want someone who can help me achieve good results at my age, and I know I want progesterone as I hear that is what helps boobs really fill out. The nurse I spoke to with O'Dea did a great sales job, especially the mention of the progesterone-laced Pink Panther cocktail.
It's also good to know that someone in late 50s might see some results. Have you seen more differences than just boobs? Butt? Hips? Face? Reduction in body hair or more hair growth on your head? Sorry to inundate with questions but I just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing.....even if I don't transition and just do hormones. Would you all say you're happy having decided to do hormones and that no matter what, no matter how slight the changes, you feel better even seeing small boobs or little fat shifting on your body?
Thanks and please please please tell me everything! Including the Buena Park info....that doctor does believe in progesterone?
My wife says I have a butt now. Nothing fits now. So the hips must be changing too. I was all bald. To skin on top. I have fuzz now. Not thick. But not bald anymore. Big reduction in body hair in some places. Had a lot on the back and had it waxed after I started hrt and I have no black hairs on my back. Just unnoticeable clear hairs. My super hairy arm hair is the same way as my back with occasional epilator. I think once I electrolysis my neck and face I could be good with the rest of my body. Maybe some lower torso and genitals. As far as my face I suck at seeing that. I've had comments so I'm sure it's changed. And yes this doctor uses Progesterone. If I can message you I'll send her info to you. If I can't it's Dr Vi at metamorphosis center. I'll get full name if you can't find with google.
Quote from: MsAllannah1! on September 06, 2017, 12:34:03 AM
Thanks! I tried to check out your profile but must have done it wrong. Kept getting a message saying I didn't have access. I'll try to find Jenny through RealSelf but please do post a shot of her if you can. Thanks again! And I'm hoping that somehow, someone who knows about O'Dea or the effect of pellets on old folks like me will answer.
Hi MsAllannah
You need to have made 15 quality posts before you are able to PM other members. If you have a look at the links you were sent by Kathy it will give you the run down.
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And if you click on the biodetical hormones on the main page it takes you here.
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Hope this all helps if it's ok to post this stuff. Lol
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Thanks again everyone! Still need to learn how to answer individually.....And thanks for the Buena Park info. I did find her via Google. She does implants and progesterone? And will work with somebody as old as me? That's great. I just need to get whatever money together that I can because I know it's not cheap. Good to know you're happy with the results. Getting butt growth and facial change others notice is a great thing. And I have heard progesterone helps a lot with boobs so I'm assuming you're happy with where you're at there.....Thank you all again for showing me such kindness..
Depends on you. Everything is monitored but my pellets last for 4 months and it's $425 so 4 months for pellets at that price. I get 300 back from my insurance. And its 38 and 48 for the P and S a month but my insurance pays all those. So I got a good out of pocket for each month.
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Quote from: Norma Lynne on September 06, 2017, 12:52:14 AM
Depends on you. Everything is monitored but my pellets last for 4 months and it's $425 so 4 months for pellets at that price. I get 300 back from my insurance. And its 38 and 48 for the P and S a month but my insurance pays all those. So I got a good out of pocket for each month.
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Oh and the pellets are a 4-6 month thing. I only last 4 others 6. And I am very happy with the boobs. And don't hesitate to ask if you need to talk or anything else once you have 15 posts. Lol
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I know nothing about the doctor, but anything called "cocktail" that's named after a cartoon character is something I would be very careful about.
I agree that "Pink Panther" isn't necessarily a good name for something going in my body. Sounds like a hallucinogenic drug from the '70s. But it does sound like it really does the job....that's why I'm torn.
And Norma, thanks for sharing re: your pellets. That really does seem like the best way to go. I like the idea of having a regular distribution of hormones and, also, I hate shots! Now I just need to find the money. Just curious.....how long did it take to start feeling like anything was happening? Especially with the progesterone? I had read a couple of people saying that the progesterone worked very quickly and they could feel their nipples change almost right away.
Yup I was a little torn. But I was happy with my choice. And being closer will be harder to choose. Mine being closer is why I knew I was originally going to choose her. If Odea was the closest I might be here selling him. Also my friend is starting Monday in Buena Park. So if you want to talk to her after she starts I am sure she would be happy to talk to you about how she feels.
And I don't want to talk you out a doctor. I've seen his work. I was going to him before I found mine. He is or was good when I did my research. But I knew I was going to have problems with his Cockiness and personality. I was not going to put myself through what I have read. I just looked at his yelp reviews. You need to read the whole 4 he has. Especially the 3 star review. Oh and I had a question. Every time I checked his website it was down. I mean for years. No way I could choose him if he make as much as he did and could not have a working website. Is it working now? And as far as a PP Cocktail the body can only develop so far and so quick. The best we can hope for is regular female development. And with pellets and Progesterone I think I'm close to better than I ever thought I could get.
And as far as feeling and seeing something it was freakin like days or just at a week. But I did start with injections which does make a difference, better than pills. But I really think it was the Progesterone that helped. I mean within days I had soreness and growth. And I had these tiny man nipples. I mean normal small nipples. And within a week I had these huge female nipples. It was like wholly Crap. Omg and WTF!! And Gigity! All at once. Standing there in the mirror I went from being able to have my shirt off in public to no way in less than a week these nips are as female as you get. I knew I was going to get good development. Seeing that was a sign I knew I was doing the right thing.
Oh and I researched for a couple years. Although I could not make myself take the plunge as soon as I wanted. I even quit once. I knew pellets make a big difference as well as Progesterone. I was not going to a doctor that did not do those. I can not believe there are actually doctors that don't believe Progesterone does anything. And don't think pellets makes a difference. I know if some of the girls here with less than satisfactory development, would do better with pellets and/or Progesterone. They both make a difference. I would love to know if someone who had pills and no Progesterone switched to pellets and Progesterone. If they had better after. Also since I smoked and still smoke something once and a while. Pills were not an option.
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I've never been on pellets. Pills, patches, suppositories, injections and now, gel. Been taking progesterone for the last 3 years and yes, they do indeed make breasts fuller, wider, areolas more prominent but the effect seems to be temporary. You have to keep on taking it but the same applies to estrogen, as far as I can tell so really to maintain breast shape and size, hormones must be taken continuously for a lifetime.
I'm the friend going in Monday. This will be the first time for pellets for me, and that option was one reason I went to see her. Another was the recommendation, which after meeting is justified. She's very nice and caring. She listened to my story, and empathized. I'm sure she's heard it all before, but the pain is always current and more real to us. So, yes, so far, I'm glad I chose her. I do not know about the other doctor. I have stopped seeing other doctors before based on vibe though. It's my body, if I'm not comfortable with somebody, I'll shop for another.
Quote from: MsAllannah1! on September 05, 2017, 09:57:46 PMHave you seen more differences than just boobs? Butt? Hips? Face? Reduction in body hair or more hair growth on your head?
I have seen lots of changes. Boobs were among the first. My skin has gotten a lot softer. My lips filled out and look deliciously feminine now. There are some other subtle changes in my face that I can't quite identify, but I look different. I am losing less hair from my head, and what I have has more body.
I never had much body hair, but what I have is thinner and more blonde. I had about two dozen dark hairs on my chest that I used to shave. They are still there, but they are so thin and pale that I can only see them if the light catches them just right. Likewise my legs never were furry, but the hair there is thinner, lighter, and less dense than before.
I have had a little bit of fat deposit on my hips. Combined with some weight loss that reduced my middle, I now have quite a nice shape.
Not bad for a 62-year-old.
Thank you again everyone and, again, sorry I can't respond individually yet. So, well, here goes:
Norma, thanks for all that information about your experiences. I have also started and stopped before with HRT, so I'm wondering if that helps or hurts starting again. Will it just pick up where it left off? I do have a fair amount of boob fat that never went away. Do you think that this will get back into boob shape fairly quickly based on your experience? I know it takes a long time to develop but I have read that progesterone does what you say....it goes straight to the nipples. Which would be a lovely feeling, I'd think. Feel free to share anything and everything else about your treatment as I just need to know that this will help me get where I have always needed to be.
Kay, thanks and good to know your thoughts about progesterone. I do think I need it as soon as possible!
Bari Jo, yes please do let me know what your Buena Park experience is like. If she is worth it, it's worth the drive. I do like the aggressive approach I hear about with Dr. O'Dea but I also don't want to feel weird about everything when I'm with my doctor. Let me know how she is, what treatment you go with, whether it also includes progesterone.....thanks!
Kathy, you have no idea how much your words have cheered me up. We're in the same age ballpark and frankly, i worry that I'll see next to no results. I realize everyone is different but just knowing that things can still happen at my age is incredibly reassuring....
Quote from: MsAllannah1! on September 06, 2017, 01:44:52 PM
Thank you again everyone and, again, sorry I can't respond individually yet. So, well, here goes:
Norma, thanks for all that information about your experiences. I have also started and stopped before with HRT, so I'm wondering if that helps or hurts starting again. Will it just pick up where it left off? I do have a fair amount of boob fat that never went away. Do you think that this will get back into boob shape fairly quickly based on your experience? I know it takes a long time to develop but I have read that progesterone does what you say....it goes straight to the nipples. Which would be a lovely feeling, I'd think. Feel free to share anything and everything else about your treatment as I just need to know that this will help me get where I have always needed to be.
I am not sure if it's on the posts you see. But if you are using Tapatalk if you see an arrow at the bottom right of the persons post you hit that arrow and it's the same as online directly on Susan's site if you hit quote at the top right. So arrow bottom right on Taptalk
Starting then stopping would depend on how far you went before. For me I was not going very long so no difference. Some things when they get so far are not reversible.
I do think that the boob fat you still have will help. Just my opinion.
You will get to where you want. I am sure of this. I can't guarantee it. But the chances I think are pretty high. I would go to my doctor if I had to drive 3 times as far if I had to. This is how much I love her. She is a blessing. That's why I share her with who I can. My friends deserve the best. And if I can help. I will.
One of the best things for me is the thinning or loss of body hair. I don't really see the face growing slower. But I waxed my back right after i started HRT. AND I no longer need to worry about the back and my chest has no black hair either anymore. So electrolysis is happening now for the face. And it seems like it will be good.
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Unfortunately, Norma, I don't see an arrow so I guess I'll just respond this way. As for my starting and stopping, it's probably been four times....therapist urges me to start hormones, I do. Then I start to see some results (not much, but enough to know it's in me) and I panic because while I feel better, how do I tell people this is me? So I stop. It's left me with what now seem like man boobs but were the beginning of real boobs once upon a time. So I hope you're right....starting HRT again will get the tissue growing and the fat that's already there will go back to being boobs. Real boobs. I have been reading that doing progesterone this time would be a big help in that direction....that it gives a rounded shape. God, I'd love to have that nipple feeling as soon as possible. So I'm hoping. Now I'm torn....do I go with O'Dea and this magical cocktail or see your person. Good to know about body hair too.....I have never had a ton of it but what I do have has always been pretty dark. So I'd love to have it lighten up. And maybe to see some fat shifting not only in butt and hips but in the face.....
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Lol. The arrow has always been there for me. Sorry it's not there for you. I posted a pic of your last post so you can see what to look for. Lol. I would have thought you would get the number of posts you need already to not be a newbie anymore.
As for which doctor. I go with the better person. Someone who cares about me. Maybe I am biased. I like the fact she lost everything. Then turned around her life and just loves helping us. And I don't think there would be anything she does not know about. I believe his cocktail is just a selling tool. What can he actually prescribe that others can't? We all want as much growth as possible and what doctor in their business would not do everything they know of to help us. But he is closer to you and you most likely will get the results you want. Maybe cost might help. Have you figured out your cost in each place?? I don't know. I just want the best for you and do not want you hurt. Talk to Bari Jo. And if your not in too much of a hurry. Wait a month and see how Bari Jo feels then.
Norma
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Norma --
I think the problem is that I'm doing this from my laptop, not my phone. Maybe that's why there's no arrow?
I will keep you posted on what I end up doing. I appreciate your thoughts so much and, honestly, reading what you say about your physical progress with HRT is incredibly helpful. Keep it coming when it comes to discussion of any changes you have seen/stlll see. I am starting to realize that I want this just for me and nobody else....I may never transition or even fully be out....I just want my body the way I want my body, which is female.
As for cost of treatment, i know Dr. O'Dea's. I will try your recommendation this afternoon to get an estimate too. I just have to figure in the transportation cost as well if coming to Buena Park. My appointment w/ Dr. O'Dea, if I keep it, is not for a month so I definitely want to hear about Bari Jo's experience. So I'll stay tuned on this page....
I looked at Dr. O'Dea as a possibility when I was starting out 2 1/2 years ago. My therapist recommended Dr. Richard Horowitz in Beverly Hills. He also does pellets and is a proponent of progesterone. I have been on IM injections for 2 1/2 years and have also been on bioidentical progesterone and have had great results under Dr. Horowitz. Since you are in the Valley it would be an easy trip for you over the hill to get to him. Take a look at some of my old posts and you can see how I have faired. I did have minor FFS and BA 2 years ago but I did not go overly large on the implant size. Everything else is just from HRT. I have not had to have any fat transfers or other body work. My butt has filled out nicely and is still there even after my recent 35 pound weight loss.
It's important to have a good relationship with your doctor and to feel comfortable with your treatment plan. Good luck on your decision and I hope you are able to get the results you are looking for. Remember it takes time for all of the changes to occur.
Oh, one more thing, I was 53 when I started (far left picture) and I am now 56 (two recent pics). Most people tell me they can't believe that I am that old. Most people think I am in my early 40's. It's never too late to transform yourself.
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Jess -
Thanks SO much for your message! It was really helpful. I would answer you in a private message but I have a bit of a ways to go still before I'm able to do that here. But I would really like to keep the dialogue going with you as I have SO many questions and we are pretty much exactly the same age. Regarding Dr. Horowitz, I have actually seen him. I did have pellets put in once, nearly three years ago, and he was the doctor. It's just that I freaked out as they started to work, not because I didn't love the results (although they were, frankly, not much) but because finally getting what I wanted after 50-some years was overwhelming and I didn't know how to tell the world. What's your sense of him? Do you think he'd be open to letting me come back and providing treatment again even though I'd told him I was quitting after just the one treatment? I would feel weird....hence why I thought about Dr. O'Dea. Anyway, please do write back if you can as I would really like to keep chatting.
Allannah
You only need to make one more quality post before you can start using the messenger system.
I don't think Dr. Horowitz would have a problem taking you back, he's an amazing doctor and his staff is really nice. Once you can use messenger we can exchange information.
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Jess -
Thanks SO much for your message! It was really helpful. I would answer you in a private message but I have a bit of a ways to go still before I'm able to do that here. But I would really like to keep the dialogue going with you as I have SO many questions and we are pretty much exactly the same age. Regarding Dr. Horowitz, I have actually seen him. I did have pellets put in once, nearly three years ago, and he was the doctor. It's just that I freaked out as they started to work, not because I didn't love the results (although they were, frankly, not much) but because finally getting what I wanted after 50-some years was overwhelming and I didn't know how to tell the world. What's your sense of him? Do you think he'd be open to letting me come back and providing treatment again even though I'd told him I was quitting after just the one treatment? I would feel weird....hence why I thought about Dr. O'Dea. Anyway, please do write back if you can as I would really like to keep chatting.
Allannah
Dr. Horowitz that's dredging up an old name. I was switched to him when my doctor retired and he was first learning HRT. He always had me on Premarin and the dose was so low that I never fully developed. I guess he has learned something in the last 10 years or so after I last saw him as I was never offered pellets or estradiol.
Ah, the magic post! Here I go.....Thanks for the reassurance on Dr. Horowitz, Jess. He was always very nice. I just remember being so definitive last time I was in there saying nope, not gonna continue and help me get back to normal hormone levels. I just don' want to have to go through that whole see the therapist, get a note process again. Done it many times in my life and just can't go through it again, emotionally or financially. And have to say, Jess, I am soooo jealous of your curves....I'm 5' 9" and 180, with very broad shoulders but not a lot of fat down below so I'm worried I'll get no development at my age....
Quote from: MsAllannah1! on September 07, 2017, 09:21:27 PM
Ah, the magic post! Here I go.....Thanks for the reassurance on Dr. Horowitz, Jess. He was always very nice. I just remember being so definitive last time I was in there saying nope, not gonna continue and help me get back to normal hormone levels. I just don' want to have to go through that whole see the therapist, get a note process again. Done it many times in my life and just can't go through it again, emotionally or financially. And have to say, Jess, I am soooo jealous of your curves....I'm 5' 9" and 180, with very broad shoulders but not a lot of fat down below so I'm worried I'll get no development at my age....
You are going to be fine. If Dr. Horowitz is close and a good doctor and you have been to him before, then that would be my choice. I quit after a week and went back to mine. They just want to help. And they understand what we are going through. And I don't think you will have to go through the note process again or see a therapist. I did not have to. And I did not need the therapist or a note the first time. Even though I was seeing one the first time. I am not up on it because I never dealt with it. I think it's informed consent. Somebody else could chime in if I am wrong. Some doctors are stubborn. But I don't think there is a law stating they need a letter from a therapist anymore. I don't know. But anyway. Our age as you see does not usually cause a problem with development, since the Doctors we have to choose from out here in Southern California are pretty good at what they do. I have good results with mine. Looks like Jess has good with hers and you have seen the results from other doctors. You will do fine. I know it. If I stopped up top right now I would fine. I am hoping for another cup size but right now I'm good with it. I look good in a bra. And my only 38C I have fits perfect.
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I talked to a girl the other day who's dr is Dr Odea. We talked a about what I have heard and her experience and she is overwhelmingly happy with him. And she is gorgeous and talking to her it actually makes me think about a second opinion. But only think about it. I am very happy with my results. It was awesome talking to her face to face about her experiences.
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Thanks, Norma! Do you know if she got his "cocktail" as well?
I think so
I know it's a bit much but would you mind connecting me with her somehow. Would love to speak with her and get a real sense of how the "cocktail" felt and worked for her....
I have gone to Dr. O'Dea. He was nothing but nice. I have had estradiol progesterone and small testosterone pellets implanted. I am very happy with the results. I am not on the porn star track, but results are obvious and I couldn't be happier. I have stopped due to expense of travel I'm not from the west coast.
Hope it helps. I would absolutely recommend him.
I'd be curious to find out your progesterone levels on pellets...