So I was thinking about this the other day...
What is the strangest thing since my transition to get used to?
Well for me, it's the opposite way shirts button up. Men's dress shirts button left to right, women's right to left. So weird!!!
What's your strange thing?
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I apologize mods, I started this in 2 locations because I wanted to involve everyone and hear from just my MTF peers.
So I was thinking about this the other day...
What is the strangest thing since my transition to get used to?
Well for me, it's the opposite way shirts button up. Men's dress shirts button left to right, women's right to left. So weird!!!
What's your strange thing?
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Looking at myself in the mirror and actually liking the person looking back at me.
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Sitting like a lady, such sitting with crossed legs, especially when wearing a dress.
Some special mentions, self inflicted so to say
- having longer nails, but then they do look pretty with nail polish
- having pierced ears (the feeling of the jewelry in my ears was weird at first), but I got over that as now I have 3 holes in each ear, with a pierced navel and nose).
For me it was having boobs. When I was using inserts obviously they didn't have feeling. But my own certainly do. I can feel the lightest brush up against them. At first it was kind of weird when I would feel them on the inside of my arms when my arms were outstretched. I especially noticed it when I was cutting hair. Guys reactions to them were also strange for me at first. My boobs are only a small C but still some guys talk to my chest instead of my face. And I found my brother's reactions hilarious. He's chilled out a little now but at first it was awkward for him. When he hugged me he would kind of pull back a little so his chest wouldn't be on my boobs. Lol. And once we were watching TV and he reached over to get my attention and ended up getting a handful of boob. When he realized what he was touching he pulled his hand away like it was in a fire. I told him he had to at least buy me dinner before he could play with those. He told me that was So not funny. It cracks me up how men came n be so boob obsessed and at the same time boob squeamish. Lol
Quote from: jfong on September 23, 2017, 11:32:30 AM
Looking at myself in the mirror and actually liking the person looking back at me.
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I can't wait to feel that way... I HATE the person looking back at me from the mirror... I can see the girl inside clawing to get out... Just started HRT 9 days ago... I'm in Walmart right now & all around me are pretty girls wearing adorable clothes... I'm so jealous... I want what they have SOOO BAD!! It's torture! to quote amandam i feel like a "hairy, lurching, manly beast!" Trying not to cry... Ok I'm done feeling sorry for myself... Sorry for ranting... just feels like the life I've always wanted is SO CLOSE... but just out of reach. [emoji22]
Sorry for hijacking the purpose of the thread... just needed to vent... Much love, ladies. -Jessi
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Yeah, I keep reaching for the zipper on pants with the wrong hand! But then some are sewn the "male" way, especially jeans. Oh well, other women must be equally confused :)
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Layering
Working out colour combinations that don't make me look masculine is some kind of dark art.
-Mara
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Quote from: Julia1996 on September 23, 2017, 11:51:09 AM
For me it was having boobs. When I was using inserts obviously they didn't have feeling. But my own certainly do. I can feel the lightest brush up against them. At first it was kind of weird when I would feel them on the inside of my arms when my arms were outstretched. I especially noticed it when I was cutting hair. Guys reactions to them were also strange for me at first. My boobs are only a small C but still some guys talk to my chest instead of my face. And I found my brother's reactions hilarious. He's chilled out a little now but at first it was awkward for him. When he hugged me he would kind of pull back a little so his chest wouldn't be on my boobs. Lol. And once we were watching TV and he reached over to get my attention and ended up getting a handful of boob. When he realized what he was touching he pulled his hand away like it was in a fire. I told him he had to at least buy me dinner before he could play with those. He told me that was So not funny. It cracks me up how men came n be so boob obsessed and at the same time boob squeamish. Lol
For me it was not so much having boobs that I can feel but having boobs that are now so visible. All of my shirts now stick out an additional 2 inches or so than just a few months ago. I love how I look but now I get a little overly-conscious about my chest. I am hoping to get "used to" my new reality soon, but so far they keep grabbing my attention all day, as well as the attention of any onlookers, it seems... ???
The extra attention... like slow motion entrances into a room or down the street as everyone turns.
Aside from the growing breasts I now constantly feel (even when driving) the strangest thing is not having large pockets on my cloth. It is just not very feminine to put all kind of things in your pockets... i finally found a skirt with some good sized pockets and it may just give away everything if I put too much in it...
Along the same lines: having a purse / hand bag... a few times I have been searching for car keys or wallet or other random things just to realize days later that I put them in my purse at some point [emoji56]
Sorry Jessi. :'( I don't know if this will help but there are two "believe it or nots" about transition. One; once we start, almost all of us get there. Usually to a more endurable state by far. It is just outlasting the storm. Two; for most of us, the grass actually IS greener on the other side.
So on to strange things to get used to.
Hmmm... There are a few.
Pockets. Seriously, what happened to pockets? I mostly wear dresses or skirts so maybe once every two or three weeks I am wearing something that has pockets. Even if I wear pants though, again I ask, What Happened To Pockets?!?! They are so small! If I put my phone in the back pocket I have to worry about it falling out every time I go to the bathroom, no matter what pocket I use I can only fit half my phone into it. This particular phenomenon is not so bad, I have a bag or 4 that I can put all of my stuff in. ;) Sometimes a pocket would be nice though.
There are 7 days to every week but I need a minimum of 8 pair of shoes to survive a week. I am not well taught in algebra or whatever but even I can tell the math doesn't add up.
Really though I have to agree with Harley, attention. I guess that in a way I have gotten used to stares, well from women anyway. You can check my logic but I figure it this way. I look at women all the time, what they are wearing, oh my god those shoes!, I wonder how hard it would be to do my hair like that, sheesh :icon_woowoo: where did she find that guy? Hot guys-r-us? Is there a website or app or something? She is not that much prettier than me, maybe I could find his not as hot cousin? Sigh, not always proud of my thoughts.
It is so pointless to wonder what people are thinking that I have to just assume that other women are thinking about the same thing that I am. I would go bananas otherwise.
Men though are completely different. I mean I get it, I stand out. Tall, usually in a dress or skirt, long curly hair and don't judge, don't wear a bra. Now, I assume that it is something like false advertising to men, I am nothing special. That they see me and something in their Neanderthal, crotch scratching, chest thumping brain wakes up and goes Ooooo! and a moment later they get a closer look at the real me and go Awww! Truthfully though, transition has not given me any greater insight into a man's thinking so I don't know what is going on in there. Here is the strange however, why do so many if them turn into the most macho dude in the world or a little boy when they talk to me? Sometimes both!? I just don't understand the attention. My one boss will not leave me alone, he is either picking on me or trying to help me ALL THE TIME! Took a friend to the doctor this past week, I felt like I was back in high school. This 50+ year old surgeon follows us back to where the nurse has a little more paperwork to finish, he is bragging a little, talking big and bad a little, fidgeting a lot until the nurse tells him to go away until she is done. He is waiting for us with the receptionist and again he is being just annoying enough that she finally rolls her eyes, turns around and asks him if he needs a valium. Then she apologizes to me. Why apologize to me? That is what is strange for me and is hard to get used to. I used to listen to their stories now they tell me about themselves, god that is awesome though! Just hard to get used to. I am not used to men being vulnerable around me, not unless I knew them very well. I don't know, I suppose that I always thought that men were men you know? The way they were around me is the way they are around everyone. Turns out that I was as wrong as I have ever been. It is all so weird though and a little sad. I am very careful not to look men in the eyes anymore, not on most random encounters and I feel like I am being rude. How do the rest of you girls deal with that? Is it wrong of me not to want to deal with that all the time?
Michelle
I hope this topic is for everyone, because currently the strangest thing I have to get used to is the way my packer fits in my jeans.
Sometimes its on the left of the center crease, and sometimes it ends up on the right. It has even gotten stuck in the middle when I get in the car, which is uncomfortable for me, and its just a silicon prosthesis!
I'm wondering how those with an actual penis and testicles deals with it, do they let it go wherever it wants or "place" it on the left or right? And yes, I have "proper" boxer-briefs for it, in case you were wondering.
Its a real head-scratcher.
Ryuichi
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Along the lines of Michelle I can also add the different attitude of men... I knew all along men behave strange in the presence of women.
But getting stared at all the time (and not the getting clocked stare, the state of desperate business travels who have been away from their mistress for too much time) and getting hit on in random situations ("what are you doing with the rest of your day ma'am ").
It started way before coming out when I was just wearing girls jeans and I caught guys staring at my butt.
Sometimes I take it as a compliment, sometimes it is just disturbing.
Quote from: sarah1972 on September 24, 2017, 05:54:09 AM
Along the lines of Michelle I can also add the different attitude of men... I knew all along men behave strange in the presence of women.
But getting stared at all the time (and not the getting clocked stare, the state of desperate business travels who have been away from their mistress for too much time) and getting hit on in random situations ("what are you doing with the rest of your day ma'am ").
It started way before coming out when I was just wearing girls jeans and I caught guys staring at my butt.
Sometimes I take it as a compliment, sometimes it is just disturbing.
It does take a while to get used to the behavior of guys after trantransition. People have always looked at me because of my unusual skin color but before transition I noticed when guys were looking at me it was obvious they were trying to figure out if I was male or female. There was always hostility, I guess they didn't want to chance being nice to someone who might be a boy. After transition when they look at me they are friendly and smile. I always thought of guys as very simple, basic creatures. But actually it turns out they are quite complex. It's kind of like watching a gorilla use sign language.
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on September 24, 2017, 02:22:33 AM
Sometimes its on the left of the center crease, and sometimes it ends up on the right. It has even gotten stuck in the middle when I get in the car, which is uncomfortable for me, and its just a silicon prosthesis!
You know that phrase "how's it hanging?" This is what they are talking about.
QuoteI'm wondering how those with an actual penis and testicles deals with it, do they let it go wherever it wants or "place" it on the left or right? And yes, I have "proper" boxer-briefs for it, in case you were wondering.
It usually a bit more comfortable in the center and you would try to recenter it when no one is looking.
When wearing loose fitting pants/shorts, just let it do what it want's. If it starts to feel annoying in one spot, you might play some "pocket pool" to shift it around. You try to be discrete about it though.
That about sums it up pretty nicely!
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 24, 2017, 06:18:54 AM
It's kind of like watching a gorilla use sign language.
Makes me wonder if I used to be a gorilla too at times.
Quote from: sarah1972 on September 24, 2017, 06:29:41 AM
That about sums it up pretty nicely!
Makes me wonder if I used to be a gorilla too at times.
No you weren't a gorilla. You might have had to ACT like a gorilla for self preservation but you weren't really one of them.
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on September 24, 2017, 02:22:33 AM
I hope this topic is for everyone, because currently the strangest thing I have to get used to is the way my packer fits in my jeans.
Sometimes its on the left of the center crease, and sometimes it ends up on the right. It has even gotten stuck in the middle when I get in the car, which is uncomfortable for me, and its just a silicon prosthesis!
I'm wondering how those with an actual penis and testicles deals with it, do they let it go wherever it wants or "place" it on the left or right? And yes, I have "proper" boxer-briefs for it, in case you were wondering.
Its a real head-scratcher.
Ryuichi
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I remember when I had those appendages and was at a high class tailor for a fitting. It was 'where do they hang? The trousers were then tailored correctly so that there where no bulge or prominence. Gentlemen have no reason to boast was the expression.
If you look at high profile men there is very seldom a prominent bulge. Attitude and class is everything in a man - just my opinion.
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on September 24, 2017, 02:22:33 AM
I hope this topic is for everyone, because currently the strangest thing I have to get used to is the way my packer fits in my jeans.
Sometimes its on the left of the center crease, and sometimes it ends up on the right. It has even gotten stuck in the middle when I get in the car, which is uncomfortable for me, and its just a silicon prosthesis!
I'm wondering how those with an actual penis and testicles deals with it, do they let it go wherever it wants or "place" it on the left or right? And yes, I have "proper" boxer-briefs for it, in case you were wondering.
Its a real head-scratcher.
Ryuichi
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Interesting item. Even as AMAB, I never had this issue; I'm certainly at the 'small' end of the endowment bell-curve [emoji23]
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Well lets see I would have to say there are a few of them.
As Mentioned.
Pockets - small or no pockets at all. I do have a pair of ladies style cargo pants which have pockets but there not something you wear to the office. So its my purse that carries the load now. For me not a huge deal but do miss the larger pockets on mens stuff.
Zippers being opposite hasn't been that big of a deal. I have been dressing all my life so just got used to it right away.
Women are completely different than what they used to be. Conversation is much more open and detailed. Women have a different way of communicating to each other and it just feels right. Men on the other hand have gotten dumber in there actions and being checked out all the time is seems to be the norm. This can be curtailed by the type of clothes you wear but I have a tendency to wear the tight stuff and heels so Im asking for it.
The number one thing for me to get used to is CONVERSATION . This has definitely changed and I have noticed it when dealing with people in business. Men do not take women as serious as they do there male counter parts. I found prior to transition men would look me in the eye while talking now there is fluctuation and almost being uncomfortable in the conversation. I have to be more assertive to get points across. Basically you have to be an iron maiden to achieve the same level of respect that I got as a man. I have seen this change over the years with society moving slowly ever forward to equality. There are many nuisances that have changed but have found overall once I learned what was going on and how to react it is now working in my favour. Im sure other girls have had these types of experiences.
A funny one. Conversation in the washroom. I have had conversations while washing my hands with ladies in the washroom and its quite normally but this would never happen in a males washroom.
A girl even asked me for a tampon once giving me the whole story why she needed it.
Always noticing little things along the way that are strange or different but it all feels right.
Huggs Niki Marie
Adding one more: emotions and being way more emotional. I used to be pretty stoic and never showed any emotion. Now I start sobbing on the slighted trigger, mostly cute / nice things.
It first started when a co-worker forwarded a really nice email she had received from her boss... I just sat there and tears spraying from my eyes.
Now it can be as simple as seeing my 18 month old daughter eat...
For me the thing I have a hard time getting used to is being hit on and flirted with by guys both older and younger than myself totally different experience
Socially the biggest surprise was how some guys acted a bit different than normal even in male mode. Appearently my personal space got a lot smaller without me knowing. Guys would stand much closer than I ever knew them too. Getting a hand on my shoulder or arm started happening. One guy put his hand on the small of my back and it didn't move until I moved away. In a machine cab a couple of times a guy sitting next to me would let his knee bump mine. I had to keep my knees much closer together. All of it was after I was on hormones for just a short while.
Women seem to see something different in my demeanor. They seem to have a question in their expression way more than guys do. Those that figure me out will suddenly change the way they talk to me. Those that already know I'm trans include me like any other woman. That I really enjoy.
Physically it's the breasts. Most days they are just like an arm, not noticed by me. But early on, when driving on a rough road I decided I needed to start wearing sports bras. Ouch that hurts when they bounce. Also in my job I learned not to bump them.
Finger nails break so darn easily. Progesterone helped but they still chip or tear a lot easier than man nails do.
Ok so that was several things so far. :)
No penis. >:-)
Cant wait to experience that ^^^^^
Interesting topic :)
There's various things which weren't "strange" per se to get used to, but rather a shock, because even if you can intellectually accept that they happen - emotionally, you aren't ready for them. Street harassment was one of those stances, it started happening very fast and I didn't have the knowledge to defend myself. I also must say that I have worked door-to-door in quite rough conditions and undefined terms when I was 18, so that made me even more vulnerable to street harassment. Many men would invite me to get in their apartment and some would even be quite furtive in their approach. I found myself in some quite stressful situations. One time, as I was leaving a building I had "pitched", I heard a stream of catcalls. I looked back, a group of 10 guys were looking at me and asking me to get closer, give them my number, etc etc. It was scary and I ran away. I have countless of these stories. The environments I was in and the fact that I worked until late in every job I had didn't help prevent this from happening.
Another thing is that you will have to get used to people commenting how you look, to your face or behind your back. Whether it's good or bad. If you are pretty or are not, if you look good in that dress or not. Scrutinizing is a thing. Especially in the workplace. Watch out for shorts, leggings, dresses, showing too much leg...etc. You will get looks, mostly by women. Many of those looks will be nasty. Sarcastic remarks are also quite common, especially if you make an effort to look good on a particular day. Also, men intruding your personal space IS a thing... one of my managers at the call center must have found me endearing as he kept touching my hair as I talked, until I respectfully told him to stop. Another time I was in a coffee shop, late at night, I had just had dinner and was making time to meet a friend when a middle-aged man came. He started talking to me asking for a charger for his phone, he kept asking questions and trying to make conversation and then talking about his love life, soon enough he was sitting beside and rubbing my thigh!!! It was scary. I demanded him stop, took my charger and thank the heavens, my friend appeared! We fled from that place.
As for the positive, I can talk to other women and actually feel a connection now. I have started conversations in public transportations a lot, and other women have started conversations with me. They just happen in the most random places. And it's good to be able to connect and have a true girl-girl friendship and enjoy it. We aren't a threat to each other and that it's so comforting. There's mutual understanding. Some of the best conversations I have had in my life were with female strangers in public transports at night. Funny thing!
This is just some things I can think of. There's probably more. Overall, I can say transition was very rewarding and to be able to live my life as a young woman is something I'm eternally grateful for. SRS and BA were the finishing line of this journey and I can't imagine myself without these. However, there are drawbacks and women still get very much second-class citizen card in many instances, even in the West. But it's still much better than in the rest of the world.
Short pockets, no front pockets, Shoe sizes and and the fact nobody converts men's/women's the same way. Bra sizes and what's up with dress sizes? Pantyhose long/tall - whose definition? I'm 5'7" and long tall is too small for me? What do really tall women do? Why do women's watches not have date/day? What day is today anyway?
Leslie
Quote from: Cindy on September 24, 2017, 06:38:02 AM
I remember when I had those appendages and was at a high class tailor for a fitting. It was 'where do they hang? The trousers were then tailored correctly so that there where no bulge or prominence. Gentlemen have no reason to boast was the expression.
If you look at high profile men there is very seldom a prominent bulge. Attitude and class is everything in a man - just my opinion.
That is very classy Cindy. My brother on the otherhand wears tight jeans especially so he has a bulge and his thing is noticeable. Sigh...no class at all.
Quote from: Ryuichi13 on September 24, 2017, 02:22:33 AM
I'm wondering how those with an actual penis and testicles deals with it, do they let it go wherever it wants or "place" it on the left or right? And yes, I have "proper" boxer-briefs for it, in case you were wondering.
I've honestly never even thought about this once in my life. It's just kind of... there. I'm just average, so maybe it's a problem for those who are more well endowed? I think the testicles are the larger issue. You don't want to accidentally sit on those things. ;D
Haha, for me in Switzerland, its the three kisses on the face with guys :')
Quote from: Rachel_Christina on September 24, 2017, 01:43:00 PM
Haha, for me in Switzerland, its the three kisses on the face with guys :')
This - it's just two kisses over here, but still strange.
Are you in France??
Quote from: Rachel_Christina on September 24, 2017, 02:38:06 PM
Are you in France??
https://youtu.be/KMSa_xb2h5U (https://youtu.be/KMSa_xb2h5U)
For me, it was coming to the realization that men are strange. I thought I knew what it was like to be one, and thought I understood them. I was dead wrong.
I can understand they want food, a lot. I can understand that they get horny. But, they even mess that up. Sometimes, I think I'd like to read Phillip's mind, but at the same time, wonder if I really want to.
Quote from: Cindy on September 24, 2017, 06:38:02 AM
I remember when I had those appendages and was at a high class tailor for a fitting. It was 'where do they hang? The trousers were then tailored correctly so that there where no bulge or prominence. Gentlemen have no reason to boast was the expression.
If you look at high profile men there is very seldom a prominent bulge. Attitude and class is everything in a man - just my opinion.
I was shocked and appalled when asked that at my one and only time at a high class tailor when I was just graduating from college and needing an interview suit. I refused to answer.
Still getting used to sitting in skirts/dresses. Perhaps not strange, but strange to me trying to find a ladylike way to eat at my coffee table...seems like I can only either sit sideways or actually pick up the plate...both of which are likely to end up with a mess...
My responses to some of the comments posted since my response..
Breasts
I have 36D cup breasts and sometimes it's funny how men react to my breasts. I do like to show some cleavage and sometimes men want to look and then they try and hide the fact they are checking my breasts out, especially if they are with their wives or girlfriends. (Head straight ahead, but the eyes turn toward my breasts.)
When they got big enough to jiggle as I walked, that was strange sensation at first, but I never had to get use to having breasts.. for me it was natural and just right.
Relationships with other women
Females friendship is totally different, being treated as one of the girls is amazing.. I have 3 amazing bff girl friends and the things we share amazing. It was a little uncomfortable the first time when the topic of periods came up.,
One thing I do hate, is women are very judgemental to each other, especially if you look better in an outfit than they do. I have quite nice legs, and I do like to wear short skirts to show them off, I do get some glares from other women, when their men take look.
My fav moment ever, was when I was trying to get lactation to happen. What they do, is they play with your hormones to fool your body into thinking your are pregnant so the milk glands will develop and start producing milk. So I decide, if my body is fooled, can I fool a pregnancy test (I know now, no as those tests look for a certain hormone which HRT does not produce, this hormone is only produced at fertilization) .. Anyways I was looking at the pregnancy tests and this frightened young girl started looking too. She turned to me and asked, how late are you.. before I answered she told me she was 2 weeks late. She told me she was 19 and she i had fooled around with a friend and she was frighten to what her parents would say.. I have never felt so included as one of the girls as that day.. this was total stranger.. it was amazing.. PS I told her I was a week late.
Quote from: Lady Sarah on September 24, 2017, 10:45:18 PM
For me, it was coming to the realization that men are strange. I thought I knew what it was like to be one, and thought I understood them. I was dead wrong.
I can understand they want food, a lot. I can understand that they get horny. But, they even mess that up. Sometimes, I think I'd like to read Phillip's mind, but at the same time, wonder if I really want to.
I never understood guys at all, but since transitioning I find them even more confusing. They can be so unpredictable and weird. Especially groups of guys. It's interesting but confusing to watch them. I feel like Jane Godall and want to throw them bananas.
Genuine brief connections with other women wether it be a friendly smile or a short conversation in the Elevator...always with a smile and always a pleasant interlude... and of course I have to mention two other things, the first...A good handbag is worth is weight in gold...secondly...when you find that one particular colour of lipstick and go "that's me"...
Maybe you can teach them a few tricks by giving them bananas [emoji23]
On a more serious note:
A few weeks After I had figured out I am trans I was on a work assignment with a few male coworkers and of course they started the usual boy talk. It did feel so strange to the point where I had to remind them to tone it down.
The strangest part about it was that a year earlier, I may have been part of the conversation.
Made me realize some of my past behavior would have meant Julia throwing Bananas at me... Glad I am not that person anymore.
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 25, 2017, 05:58:24 AM
I never understood guys at all, but since transitioning I find them even more confusing. They can be so unpredictable and weird. Especially groups of guys. It's interesting but confusing to watch them. I feel like Jane Godall and want to throw them bananas.
Quote from: sarah1972 on September 25, 2017, 07:31:42 AM
Maybe you can teach them a few tricks by giving them bananas [emoji23]
On a more serious note:
A few weeks After I had figured out I am trans I was on a work assignment with a few male coworkers and of course they started the usual boy talk. It did feel so strange to the point where I had to remind them to tone it down.
The strangest part about it was that a year earlier, I may have been part of the conversation.
Made me realize some of my past behavior would have meant Julia throwing Bananas at me... Glad I am not that person anymore.
You're going to notice a big difference in how guys act around you. Before I transitioned my brother and his friends talked like nasty pigs. After I transitioned they are careful what they say around me. If one of them drops the F bomb they will say " oh, sorry Julia". They still fart but now they say excuse me after slapping one out. It's just one of those strange boy behavior mysteries.
The number of shoes. Pre-transition I had 4 pairs: sneakers, deck shoes, work shoes and "junk" shoes. I had 8 pairs in the first month of transition and now I'm over a dozen.
i'm also surprised that not all woman's pants zip "backwards". I have some in each direction.
I've also got a full closet and "I have nothing to wear." I didn't understand that pre-transition, but wow! I do now.
Eating food, like ice cream, without eating your hair.
Maybe this is just a problem for me because I wear a wig.
Quote from: Erika_Courtney on September 25, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
Eating food, like ice cream, without eating your hair.
Maybe this is just a problem for me because I wear a wig.
Nope it happens to us who grew our hair long too :)
Quote from: Erika_Courtney on September 25, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
Eating food, like ice cream, without eating your hair.
Maybe this is just a problem for me because I wear a wig.
I watched some movie about Arab women where they go with their husband to a restaurant and got themselves spaghetti, and then tried to eat it but weren't allowed to take off their niqabs. Imaging eating something messy and trying to keep your face covered. Thank you St Vladimir, that I'm not a Muslim (he thought about taking Muslim religion before settling on Christianity... the story goes, because muslims aren't allowed to drink alcohol which he considered to be necessity).
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 25, 2017, 05:58:24 AM
I never understood guys at all, but since transitioning I find them even more confusing. They can be so unpredictable and weird. Especially groups of guys. It's interesting but confusing to watch them. I feel like Jane Godall and want to throw them bananas.
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OMG, that is hilarious! I almost sprayed my soda. Lol
Quote from: FinallyMichelle on September 23, 2017, 11:24:42 PM
Sorry Jessi. :'( I don't know if this will help but there are two "believe it or nots" about transition. One; once we start, almost all of us get there. Usually to a more endurable state by far. It is just outlasting the storm. Two; for most of us, the grass actually IS greener on the other side.
So on to strange things to get used to.
Hmmm... There are a few.
Pockets. Seriously, what happened to pockets? I mostly wear dresses or skirts so maybe once every two or three weeks I am wearing something that has pockets. Even if I wear pants though, again I ask, What Happened To Pockets?!?! They are so small! If I put my phone in the back pocket I have to worry about it falling out every time I go to the bathroom, no matter what pocket I use I can only fit half my phone into it. This particular phenomenon is not so bad, I have a bag or 4 that I can put all of my stuff in. ;) Sometimes a pocket would be nice though.
There are 7 days to every week but I need a minimum of 8 pair of shoes to survive a week. I am not well taught in algebra or whatever but even I can tell the math doesn't add up.
Really though I have to agree with Harley, attention. I guess that in a way I have gotten used to stares, well from women anyway. You can check my logic but I figure it this way. I look at women all the time, what they are wearing, oh my god those shoes!, I wonder how hard it would be to do my hair like that, sheesh :icon_woowoo: where did she find that guy? Hot guys-r-us? Is there a website or app or something? She is not that much prettier than me, maybe I could find his not as hot cousin? Sigh, not always proud of my thoughts.
It is so pointless to wonder what people are thinking that I have to just assume that other women are thinking about the same thing that I am. I would go bananas otherwise.
Men though are completely different. I mean I get it, I stand out. Tall, usually in a dress or skirt, long curly hair and don't judge, don't wear a bra. Now, I assume that it is something like false advertising to men, I am nothing special. That they see me and something in their Neanderthal, crotch scratching, chest thumping brain wakes up and goes Ooooo! and a moment later they get a closer look at the real me and go Awww! Truthfully though, transition has not given me any greater insight into a man's thinking so I don't know what is going on in there. Here is the strange however, why do so many if them turn into the most macho dude in the world or a little boy when they talk to me? Sometimes both!? I just don't understand the attention. My one boss will not leave me alone, he is either picking on me or trying to help me ALL THE TIME! Took a friend to the doctor this past week, I felt like I was back in high school. This 50+ year old surgeon follows us back to where the nurse has a little more paperwork to finish, he is bragging a little, talking big and bad a little, fidgeting a lot until the nurse tells him to go away until she is done. He is waiting for us with the receptionist and again he is being just annoying enough that she finally rolls her eyes, turns around and asks him if he needs a valium. Then she apologizes to me. Why apologize to me? That is what is strange for me and is hard to get used to. I used to listen to their stories now they tell me about themselves, god that is awesome though! Just hard to get used to. I am not used to men being vulnerable around me, not unless I knew them very well. I don't know, I suppose that I always thought that men were men you know? The way they were around me is the way they are around everyone. Turns out that I was as wrong as I have ever been. It is all so weird though and a little sad. I am very careful not to look men in the eyes anymore, not on most random encounters and I feel like I am being rude. How do the rest of you girls deal with that? Is it wrong of me not to want to deal with that all the time?
Michelle
Thanks, I appreciate that. I was in a bad place the other day (fell off the "pink cloud," as we call it in AA/NA), but things are much better now; plus, I've begun to notice some physical juuusst barely starting, so that's helped a lot too! : D I'll get where you ladies are, someday!
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Quote from: Sydney_NYC on September 25, 2017, 09:46:23 PM
Nope it happens to us who grew our hair long too :)
That's a fact. I keep a hair tie in my pocket at all times now.
The most amusing thing for me is realizing that it's now MY hair clogging the shower drain.
Speaking of hair, I have a foam roller I roll my back and shoulders on every morning. Now that my hair is long it regularly gets caught under the roller if I don't think about it first and hold it out of the way. That can be quite painful.
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Quote from: warlockmaker on September 24, 2017, 09:36:35 AM
No penis. >:-)
OMG I can't WAIT for my "dangly bits" to go bye-bye! <SIGH> Must be amazing to look down & just feel... RIGHT.
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Beard itchiness.
It's somewhat confusing, as I also have to deal with skin changes at the same time, and a bit of mild skin dryness on one side of the jaw. Instinctive urges to scratch anything that feels a bit rough have to be suppressed.
Pockets by far is the most annoying so far. There's so much strange that I'm getting used to. I giggle now during pain of electrolysis. It's the pain, but also the absurdity of what we are doing. It helps me power through so far without pain killers too!
Bari Jo
Quote from: Bari Jo on October 01, 2017, 05:27:01 PM
Pockets by far is the most annoying so far. There's so much strange that I'm getting used to. I giggle now during pain of electrolysis. It's the pain, but also the absurdity of what we are doing. It helps me power through so far without pain killers too!
Bari Jo
Is it very painful? I have a high threshold for pain, but I'm EXTREMELY sensitive to electricity. I can tell if power is running thru a cord when I touch it, & I had electroshock therapy once (hit a nerve in my armpit w/ a shovel & temporarily "killed" the nerve, couldn't move my hand for 2 wks) & it was the WORST THING EVER!!! I'd rather have a kidney stone again than deal w/ that!!
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You don't feel the electricity at all. What you feel is a burning where the root of the hair is. I would rate it about a 3 or 4 on the pain scale but others might rate it higher.
Quote from: Dena on October 01, 2017, 05:49:00 PM
You don't feel the electricity at all. What you feel is a burning where the root of the hair is. I would rate it about a 3 or 4 on the pain scale but others might rate it higher.
Oh thank goodness!! Sounds like when I had a mole removed. I was starting to think "Okay, I don't have THAT much hair, really... maybe I'll just shave forever..." Lol, that's right, I hate electricity THAT MUCH.
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Quote from: Dena on October 01, 2017, 05:49:00 PM
You don't feel the electricity at all. What you feel is a burning where the root of the hair is. I would rate it about a 3 or 4 on the pain scale but others might rate it higher.
Burning! OMG that sounds horrible. I always thought it would feel like electric zaps too.
Quote from: Julia1996 on October 01, 2017, 06:35:39 PM
Burning! OMG that sounds horrible. I always thought it would feel like electric zaps too.
It only happens with a very small spot on your skin, a little like getting picked with a hot needle. I had all my facial hair removed with electrolysis and I didn't use anything to control the pain. Remember they are running the needle between the hair and the skin so you don't feel the insertion unless the hair is shallow and the needle bottoms out.
Quote from: Dena on October 01, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
It only happens with a very small spot on your skin, a little like getting picked with a hot needle. I had all my facial hair removed with electrolysis and I didn't use anything to control the pain. Remember they are running the needle between the hair and the skin so you don't feel the insertion unless the hair is shallow and the needle bottoms out.
That sounds awful! I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Quote from: Dena on October 01, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
It only happens with a very small spot on your skin, a little like getting picked with a hot needle. I had all my facial hair removed with electrolysis and I didn't use anything to control the pain. Remember they are running the needle between the hair and the skin so you don't feel the insertion unless the hair is shallow and the needle bottoms out.
Kinda sounds like a tattoo, & I can deal w/ that. Luckily I have very little hair that I'll have to do that to!
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