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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Allie24 on September 27, 2017, 12:45:39 PM

Title: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Allie24 on September 27, 2017, 12:45:39 PM
Full disclosure: for the past several weeks I have been considering getting an Elastrator (a device used in the bloodless castration of livestock) because I feel increasingly more convinced that the apocalypse will happen before I go in for surgery and I want a plan B in case that happens so I don't have to worry about testosterone in the post-apocalyptic future............

I have been apocalypse-obsessed since I was in 7th grade and first heard about the 2012 prediction and it was a large part of why I did not bother transitioning at that time... I figured there would be no point. Now people are so negative and won't shut up about nuclear war and I feel like one day I'm going to look outside and see a mushroom cloud, or a mega-tornado is going to rip through the midwest because of climate change and my transition plans will be thwarted and I will be forced to take matters into my own hands to ensure dysphoria is kept at bay..........

My therapist does not know about my plan. My SO does not know about my plan. My family does not know about my plan.

I have pushed a lot of normal future plans (marriage, house, career) to the side and done a lot of thinking about how to survive when society collapses and... I don't even know...

Please help me.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Colleen_definitely on September 27, 2017, 01:03:08 PM
I've lived through more prophecised apocalypses than I can count.

Either I'm lucky, I'm really a cockroach, or these prophets of doom just aren't getting it right.

On a serious note, this sounds like an awful idea and a bad reason to do it.  I'd save the elastrator idea for AFTER an apocalypse.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Devlyn on September 27, 2017, 01:07:29 PM
Since I'll run out of hormones and get osteoporosis post-apocalypse, my plan is to break a hip and plead with my non-functioning Life Alert until I die.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Colleen_definitely on September 27, 2017, 01:10:16 PM
It has been six hours since the robot uprising, time to resort to cannibalism.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Megan. on September 27, 2017, 01:10:40 PM
I'd suggest that if you can find a way to talk about these thoughts with your therapist (in a safe confidential space),  that would be a way to start moving past them. But I'm with Colleen,  hold off on any vetinary procedures for now!

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Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Julia1996 on September 27, 2017, 01:21:56 PM
Actually according to one nut the world was supposed to have ended Saturday. Yet here we are. A nuclear war would really suck . In the aftermath people will be starving and I don't think they will care as much about how you look as how you taste. Watch "the road".  Horrifying movie.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Gertrude on September 27, 2017, 03:16:01 PM
Unless a very big rock hits earth or the sun goes supernova, the earth ain't going anywhere.


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Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: CarlyMcx on September 27, 2017, 03:24:22 PM
You know, the Jehova's Witnesses said the world would end in 1977, when I was 14.  We're still here.

But using a castrating machine designed for animals on yourself is a really bad idea.  Even if it does not kill you it may not leave enough scrotal tissue for a surgeon to construct a vagina.

However that might be a perfect device for the bad guys to use as a persuader in my next novel...
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Julia1996 on September 27, 2017, 03:29:21 PM
Quote from: CarlyMcx on September 27, 2017, 03:24:22 PM
You know, the Jehova's Witnesses said the world would end in 1977, when I was 14.  We're still here.

But using a castrating machine designed for animals on yourself is a really bad idea.  Even if it does not kill you it may not leave enough scrotal tissue for a surgeon to construct a vagina.

However that might be a perfect device for the bad guys to use as a persuader in my next novel...

On the show Hemlock grove one of the characters, a crime boss, used one of those on his employees who messed up. He would make them strip and then De-oyster them.lol
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Devlyn on September 27, 2017, 03:31:49 PM
It's a rubber band,  it takes awhile. Did they wait in his office for the oysters to fall off?
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Julia1996 on September 27, 2017, 03:38:15 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on September 27, 2017, 03:31:49 PM
It's a rubber band,  it takes awhile. Did they wait in his office for the oysters to fall off?
He had them tied up. They never specified the time period, only that they were De-balled. Really, several days? I didn't know that. I thought it was like instant. What a stupid plot twist. I did really like hemlock grove but it wasnt like Oscar winning material or anything.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Devlyn on September 27, 2017, 03:41:01 PM
I'm talking about the tool that the O/P mentioned. Don't know what you watch on t.v.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Roll on September 27, 2017, 04:25:20 PM
Quote from: Colleen_definitely on September 27, 2017, 01:10:16 PM
It has been six hours since the robot uprising, time to resort to cannibalism.

Wait six hours? Who has time for that? The second anything even looks like a robot uprising or zombie outbreak I'm eating the person next to me.

But yeah, on the topic... Seriously, don't worry about preparing for the apocalypse. Worst case scenario (well, maybe not the worst case, we are talking about the apocalypse) if you survive you will be the only one for miles who has any interest in raiding the hormone supplies, and certainly won't have competition in the scramble for a... uh, cow castrator. In other words, cross that bridge when you come to it.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Jenntrans on September 27, 2017, 05:24:54 PM
Quote from: Allie24 on September 27, 2017, 12:45:39 PM
Full disclosure: for the past several weeks I have been considering getting an Elastrator (a device used in the bloodless castration of livestock) because I feel increasingly more convinced that the apocalypse will happen before I go in for surgery and I want a plan B in case that happens so I don't have to worry about testosterone in the post-apocalyptic future............

I have been apocalypse-obsessed since I was in 7th grade and first heard about the 2012 prediction and it was a large part of why I did not bother transitioning at that time... I figured there would be no point. Now people are so negative and won't shut up about nuclear war and I feel like one day I'm going to look outside and see a mushroom cloud, or a mega-tornado is going to rip through the midwest because of climate change and my transition plans will be thwarted and I will be forced to take matters into my own hands to ensure dysphoria is kept at bay..........

My therapist does not know about my plan. My SO does not know about my plan. My family does not know about my plan.

I have pushed a lot of normal future plans (marriage, house, career) to the side and done a lot of thinking about how to survive when society collapses and... I don't even know...

Please help me.

OK this is kind of serious I think at least. In the seventh grade when the end of the world was more or less prophesied for 2012? Hell I was an adult when all the planes were supposed to fall out of the sky in the year 2000. Seriously Armageddon was supposed to have taken place in Nero's time.

Yes I know what you are talking about. It is the equivivilant of wrapping a rubber band around your testicals to cut off blood flow and they will die. That is not a good idea. Animals can handle more than humans can. Dogs can eat rotten meat raw and not get sick but humans can. Animals can get cut and roll around in the dirt but if a human cuts themselves and the wound gets dirty then it can go septic and kill you.

What exactly is a mega tornado? So Global warming is going to cause a tornado that will eat up all of Tornado Alley. I have lived in Tornado Alley and usually a storm shelter is all it takes to survive. An F 3 hit my town when I was in ninth grade and yeah is sucked for some whose homes were destroyed but in a month it was all back to the same except for the trees. I drove through OKC when the EF 5 hit and in a month it went back to normal and rebuilt.

If you want to HRT or SRS then do it but do it with professional medicine. A human with using a Tourniquet would probably get a septic infection and die. That is serious so think about your SO too.

Look I prep for a lot of bad things like weather. I have a week of food and keep it. I live in SE Louisiana and Katrina sucked. As much as I would hate it I can hunt too. To pass a good time then I can make my own whether it be wine, beer or whiskey.

Look. Prep and I am crazy enough to tell you that but don't prep for what you are asking about because it will end up killing you from septic shock or infection. And yes I know it is dysphoric but you would be surprised how much less you are dsyphoric when basic survival enters the picture in a doomsday scenario.

LOL and I don't mean to laugh but you can't plan totally for the end of the world because we don't really know and what difference does it make because all of our energy in an end of the world scenario will go toward survival and that would include your significant other too.

Does all that make sense? So don't do it. Your SO will love you no matter what when the world ends so.... Go with it and be thankful they love you and you are not alone.

But seriously don't worry about the apocalypse. Don't worry about Climate Change either because if the climate never changed we would not be here now. Just worry about the here and now and if the sun explodes tomorrow the screw it. You have an SO and you are who you want to be and that is all that we can ever ask for.

Dysphoria sux but please never kill yourself over it or die trying to escape it either. I will not tell you the world will be here tomorrow.  But wrapping a rubber band around your testicals in a situation where medicine will not be available is pretty serious.

So just think about things on all levels and how serious it may get in an Apocalyptic situation. But I don't believe that will ever happen until the sun expands and we all die. We have a very long time for that to happen.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Devlyn on September 27, 2017, 05:38:35 PM
If this is serious, you have my full apology. I thought we were redoing the "Nuclear war? What about my hotel reservations?" topic.

Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Artesia on September 27, 2017, 06:49:42 PM
The world ended at the end of WWII.  Fits the description of the end of the world to a T.  Then again, as long as people keep spouting the end of the world, it can't end.  We are not supposed to know the day or the hour, so if someone is saying the date of the end, then it is NOT that date.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Julia1996 on September 27, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Quote from: Artesia on September 27, 2017, 06:49:42 PM
The world ended at the end of WWII.  Fits the description of the end of the world to a T.  Then again, as long as people keep spouting the end of the world, it can't end.  We are not supposed to know the day or the hour, so if someone is saying the date of the end, then it is NOT that date.

Actually if you think about it, the day you die is the day the world ends for you.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Charlie Nicki on September 27, 2017, 07:56:08 PM
I think the most important part of your post is that you get so worried/upset about these ludicrous predictions that you can change life planes and make important decisions based on that. You should focus on trying to talk about that with your therapist and trying to solve all the underlying fears.

The world is not ending anytime soon. This is probably the third time (since I was born) that people have said everything was going to end and nothing ever happens. It doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Lady Sarah on September 27, 2017, 08:29:19 PM
Before I had my orchiectomy, I tried rubber bands. I could not stand the pain, and found someone to remove them. Even injecting them with lidocaine would not reduce the pain enough.

If some apocalypse were to occur, my options would be: join a tribe, starve, or become dinner.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Julia1996 on September 28, 2017, 08:27:35 AM
Quote from: Charlie Nicki on September 27, 2017, 07:56:08 PM
I think the most important part of your post is that you get so worried/upset about these ludicrous predictions that you can change life planes and make important decisions based on that. You should focus on trying to talk about that with your therapist and trying to solve all the underlying fears.

The world is not ending anytime soon. This is probably the third time (since I was born) that people have said everything was going to end and nothing ever happens. It doesn't make any sense.

I was only 2 at the time but my dad said people were sure the world was going to end when we reached the year 2000. He said it was more than just a small group of people. He said there were people stocking up on food and building bunkers all over the place. But here we all are.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: MaryT on September 28, 2017, 10:36:18 AM
On Wikipedia, it says

"Elastration is normally limited to castrations done during the first few weeks of life, and it cannot be used for species where the scrotum does not have a narrow base, such as pigs or horses."

Humans do not have scrota with narrow bases, and most of us are more than a few weeks old.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: MaryT on September 28, 2017, 10:53:17 AM
Quote from: Allie24 on September 27, 2017, 12:45:39 PM
I have been apocalypse-obsessed since I was in 7th grade ...

Seriously, we can't rule out the possibility of the world, as we know it, ending.  Apocalyptic changes have altered the structures of societies throughout history:  Imperialism, colonial expansion, the Black Death, the misnamed "War to End All Wars"...

Now Russia is flexing its muscles in Eastern Europe, China is staking a claim to the entire China seas, President Trump and Kim Jong Il are making threats that they can't back down from and it's only a matter of time before organisations such as Al Qaeda or ISIS obtain nuclear weapons.  If war breaks out between one major power and the ally of another major power, we will have a war that can only change society again.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Julia1996 on September 28, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
I don't worry about any of that. I have enough stuff to stress over in my life. If some world wide cataclysm struck there isn't one thing I can do about it. So why stress over it?  As far as a nuclear attack, I think it's one of the better ways to die. You wouldn't know it was happening really. Half a second of intense light and poof, you're evaporated. I doubt there would be enough time for it to even hurt.

It does amaze me though that some otherwise intelligent people actually believe a zombie apocalypse is a real possibility.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: MaryT on September 28, 2017, 11:22:40 AM
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 28, 2017, 11:15:07 AM
I don't worry about any of that. I have enough stuff to stress over in my life.

You're right of course. 

In Ecclesiastes 1, we are told that everything is vain and a waste of time if we want the world to change for our pleasure but, in Ecclesiastes 3, we are told to do good, be happy and take satisfaction in our work.

In other words, we're all doomed, doomed, I say, but never mind, like the song goes, "Don't worry, be happy".

Or, like Bowser said in an episode of Sha Na Na,
"Eat, drink and be merry - for tomorrow, we may not die after all!"
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: MaryT on September 28, 2017, 12:03:35 PM
Quote from: MaryT on September 28, 2017, 11:22:40 AM
In Ecclesiastes 1, we are told ...

P.S. I'm not really very religious, although I tick "Christian" on forms.  I travelled a lot in my youth, mostly for work, and I spent a lot of time in hotels with Gideon bibles.  Sometimes I remember a bit.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Jenntrans on September 28, 2017, 03:49:02 PM
Quote from: Devlyn Marie on September 27, 2017, 05:38:35 PM
If this is serious, you have my full apology. I thought we were redoing the "Nuclear war? What about my hotel reservations?" topic.

Hugs, Devlyn

Actually Devlyn I was trying to be serious???? In don't do it. >:-)

Cancel those reservations. ;D Never plan for anything. Just go with the moment. So cancel those reservations and pay full price. I can't plan anything worth a crap. Something always seems to come up and I lose my money anyway. If I get a wild hair on the weekend and want to go to Biloxi and pay full price for a room then it will be fun because I did not plan to have it.

On a lighter note and some of what I was getting at, I have seen "Mega" Tornadoes living in Tornado alley but have yet to see the apocalypse from a tornadic thunderstorm. Yes some property damage for sure but no the end of the world.

But as for the rubber band thing and in a situation like the "Apocalypse" gender dysphoria would be least on my list. I would still be a woman but probably a lot smarter of a woman. >:-)

But... When the world ends we are going to be long gone unless you believe in reincarnation like me and I would hope like hell we would have conquered interstellar travel before then. ;)
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: MaxForever on September 29, 2017, 06:03:29 AM
Guys the world is not ending I know that. I remember when they had that scare one year on new years eve I was holding my breath because I thought when the ball dropped that the world would explode or something... oh look I am still here.
(I think this is when it was changing to the year 2000 with the Y2K).
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Cindy on September 29, 2017, 06:54:12 AM
One of the very many wonderful things about being in Australia is that the date line is closer to us. So if some strange person is saying that the world will end at 8 am in the USA say on 30 September, well it has been 1 October for 12 hours already.

Or maybe the world did end and I'm living in an alternative universe.

"CindyWorld"

Sounds good to me.

Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Roll on September 29, 2017, 07:37:09 AM
Quote from: Cindy on September 29, 2017, 06:54:12 AM
One of the very many wonderful things about being in Australia is that the date line is closer to us. So if some strange person is saying that the world will end at 8 am in the USA say on 30 September, well it has been 1 October for 12 hours already.

Haha, the best way to calm someone in U.S. down before Y2K: "Hey, don't worry. We have a buffer. If planes start falling out of the sky in Australia we have more than enough time to land them here."

Quote
Or maybe the world did end and I'm living in an alternative universe.

"CindyWorld"

Sounds good to me.

I sometimes think I am in the final season of Lost.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Jenntrans on September 29, 2017, 06:26:50 PM
Quote from: Cindy on September 29, 2017, 06:54:12 AM
One of the very many wonderful things about being in Australia is that the date line is closer to us. So if some strange person is saying that the world will end at 8 am in the USA say on 30 September, well it has been 1 October for 12 hours already.

Or maybe the world did end and I'm living in an alternative universe.

"CindyWorld"

Sounds good to me.

OMG. From the country that Mad Max and Mel Gibson is from? not to even mention Mick Dundee. So now we have to deal with CindyWorld. >:-)

Maybe you are living in an alternate universe. Time is a funny thing and you may be living in and alternate time line but I guess I am too.

Look the end of the world will happen eventually. When? ->-bleeped-<-... I don't know or even care to guess or even want to know. In that case I want to be the first one to die.

This is the deal. The sun will eventually expand I believe into a red giant and eventually overtake all the inner planets. Before that happens we better all hope NASA gets its ->-bleeped-<- together and funded again. We are talking Mars since the early 2000s and haven't went there yet? In the red Giant scenario Mars would be toast too.

LOL what I was saying and answering too and it sounds crazy because I prepare for storms especially living on the Gulf Coast and that is a weeks worth of food that won't spoil and enough ammo to defend against looters and criminals that may want something I got. When I was in ninth grade I spent four days without electricity in my area due to an F4 tornado at the time. A lot of my friend lost their homes. In the mid 90's an EF 3 tornado hit again but in different areas and a lot of people died. One of my friends lost his wife and so on. That sucked.

Mega tornadoes due to climate change is not going to happen. Mega tornadoes do like in Moore OK though.  Mega Blizzards happen and I have been through a few on the road in Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin and so on. It sux but it is not the end of the world. I was in a Blizzard that totally shut down the city of Chicago. I put my life on the line to get to Chi Town and everything there was basically shut down. The shut down lasted two days and all I did was go through hell trying to get there from Indiana. I should have stayed in my Motel room and or the Truckstop.

people are wasting so much time worrying about ->-bleeped-<- that will never happen. I go to Cabelas because I like shooting and I see all the freeze dried crap for ungodly amounts of money. After a storm, MREs are given out for free. I would rather have MREs than freeze dried ->-bleeped-<-.

OK, Guilty here. I prep but only for a week. If the Apocalypse does come the I have enough ammo to get the hell out of town safely and that relates to 120 rounds of 5.56mm and 200 rounds of 9mm and roughly three thousand rounds of .22 LR. A girl never raises her voice and .22 is quiet and I can make a hell of a meal on squirrel and rabbit if need be with wild onions, cat tail hearts, and wild salt licks and even wild peppers that grow.

LOL and I am paranoid and love that song BTW but the apocalypse will never come but if it does, you are never going to be able to prepare for it. Those that do are probably going to be doomed from the get go. Those that prep in old Nuclear weapons' bunkers and spend big bucks? Jesus Christ live in a city and buy all the food?. I may sound paranoid and like I said I love the song but number one, get the hell as far away from others as you can. Number two, learn how to live off of nature and as quietly as possible. Number three, learn the first two rules. Number four. Read Number three.

Look the Apocalypse will never happen and I may be wrong. But if it does and you suffer gender dysphoria, I would bet that dysphoria would be the first thing on your mind. If it is then never bind your nuts in a rubber band. I have seen dogs neutered this way. It is not a thing you would want to go through. I am a hillbilly "girl" from Arkansas and don't even do that to any animals I own now. Yes they will die and fall off but... Humans are different than animals and what the OP posted is kind of .... somehow.... desperate?

Never do that. OMG I cut myself and I get sick and nauseous. My genitalia is nothing to brag about as a man but not too bad as a tans woman though. Think of Amy Daly. But there is no way I would do what the OP was suggesting even if I had a 12 inch and half pound testicals.

BTW if we talk about identity, then why do we let and give so much power over what we have between our legs identify us. Now I think that is a more serious question. I will admit I was lucky as a trans woman but not so lucky if I would have been a cis guy. Even as a trans woman I am not that lucky because some guys expect a little more. Those that don't are truly special.

Wow, way too deep on that one. :embarrassed:
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: DawnOday on September 29, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
Let's celebrate

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: IzzyC on September 29, 2017, 06:47:52 PM
If you're worried about the thing with North Korea, I wouldn't be.

For one thing, NK doesn't have any weapons capable of reaching the United States. Even if they were to acquire any, it's doubtful that we wouldn't be able to shoot them down.

Furthermore, China is now stepping up and helping to deal with the NK problem. They don't want to see nukes going off over there, since radiation has a tendency to drift. Furthermore, the destruction of South Korea isn't desirable for anyone, much less anything else over there.

It's just men puffing up their chests at each other, I'd ignore it.

As fun as running around shooting giant mutated ants with guns would be, I highly doubt the end of the world is coming anytime soon. If you're worried about that, I'd think more about moving farther away from major metropolitan areas; not hurting yourself and potentially harming the opportunity for future SRS.

I used to be in the service, and knowing and understanding NK missile and weapon technology was something I had to do.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Allie24 on September 29, 2017, 07:54:05 PM
Thank you all for your advice... I really needed some talking down there. About twenty four hours after publishing the initial post I was able to get my head straight. I'm not going to castrate myself... as desperate as I feel to have something done I'm willing to wait until a doctor can do it properly.

I have an unhealthy obsession with annihilation. I fear everything I know and love disappearing. I'm sure it has a lot more to do with me, though, than the rest of the world, and this is something I will definitely be bringing up with my therapist.

I just hate having this thing attached to me like some toxic growth that is going to poison my body if I don't take my spiro... ugh. To have it done away with will be a mercy.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Laurie on September 30, 2017, 04:36:39 AM
Quote from: Allie24 on September 29, 2017, 07:54:05 PM
Thank you all for your advice... I really needed some talking down there. About twenty four hours after publishing the initial post I was able to get my head straight. I'm not going to castrate myself... as desperate as I feel to have something done I'm willing to wait until a doctor can do it properly.

I have an unhealthy obsession with annihilation. I fear everything I know and love disappearing. I'm sure it has a lot more to do with me, though, than the rest of the world, and this is something I will definitely be bringing up with my therapist.

I just hate having this thing attached to me like some toxic growth that is going to poison my body if I don't take my spiro... ugh. To have it done away with will be a mercy.

Hi Allie,

  I have stayed away from this post for reasons I need not go into.  I just want to say that having such radical thoughts are not unknown to me. There was a time that I too thought of ordering one of those contraptions. I went as far as doing a little research to look into it. This occurred before I discovered I am trans. I didn't and still don't like those orbs and have wanted them gone for a long time. eventually I decided using that device was not the way to go about getting rid of them. Although I would still like them gone I hesitate because I haven't come to a decision about having GCS where having them removed now may cause problems with GCS if I eventually want to have it  done.

  As for your "unhealthy obsession with annihilation" let me put forward the idea that you do not need an apocalypse to have your world come crashing down around you. I have had mine crumble before my eyes and it was caused by myself. I had my own nuclear meltdown over it. It hasn't been any fun at all and I have now asked my therapist's help in rebuilding it.

I hope you are feeling and thinking better Allie and if you aren't please ask for help.

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Kylo on September 30, 2017, 08:53:00 PM
I was hoping I wouldn't live past 30 (depressed). Fortunately or unfortunately I did, and I only started caring about an "apocalypse" because I felt there was things I still wanted to do and see, and that I'd finally started to feel better about life in general and the future looked pretty grim really.

In 2014-15 my hormones crashed after quitting BC pills, and I immediately experienced severe intrusive thoughts about apocalyptic scenarios - civil wars, nukes, bank crashes, the works. I'm fairly convinced now that low hormones makes a person almost sick with anxiety and makes them think about these things. On HRT now and I've barely had a thought towards any of that stuff.

What are your hormone levels like? Might be something to do with that.

If you really fear a catastrophe, castrating yourself would be the worst thing... you'd no longer be able to produce your own hormones, and there wouldn't be any to be got from the medical centers if there was difficulty sourcing those. And living without your major hormone-producing organs, whether it's T or E - you need it or you will become ill. I know from experience what very low hormone levels are like and it's pretty rough. One reason I'd kind of like to keep some organs intact in there... if I can't get T for whatever reason, at least I wouldn't be hormonally crippled in a shortage scenario. I felt like death warmed up most days when I experienced that.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Allie24 on September 30, 2017, 09:15:19 PM
Quote from: Viktor on September 30, 2017, 08:53:00 PM

What are your hormone levels like? Might be something to do with that.


I'm have been on HRT for two years. I had done research about male castration. The effects of it are preferred to the effect of masculinization. Testosterone is a very potent substance and it does some really bad things. It is something I'd rather be rid of.

But hormones aren't the cause of this. I've had these thoughts since I was 12. It's something deeper than that.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Gertrude on September 30, 2017, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 27, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Actually if you think about it, the day you die is the day the world ends for you.

That reminds me of something Ayn Rand said. Something to the effect that when one dies, the world goes away.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP
Post by: Kylo on October 01, 2017, 04:31:55 PM
Quote from: Allie24 on September 30, 2017, 09:15:19 PM
I'm have been on HRT for two years. I had done research about male castration. The effects of it are preferred to the effect of masculinization. Testosterone is a very potent substance and it does some really bad things. It is something I'd rather be rid of.

Its effects may be unwanted but I don't think any doctor would advise a person to try to live without sufficient T or E. You would need additional hormone given externally to be healthy.

QuoteBut hormones aren't the cause of this. I've had these thoughts since I was 12. It's something deeper than that.

I'm not an expert, but this fell under "generalized anxiety" when I was speaking to a therapist about it - not a fear or phobia of a particular event, but of something bad happening in general that would cause disruption, loss, chaos.
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Post by: Allie24 on October 01, 2017, 07:00:22 PM
There are people who do live without it though. Male-to-Eunuch gender dysphoria is an actual phenomenon. Some simply taken anti-androgen blockers or have a full orchiectomy.

I'm serious when I say that I would never, ever want to have testosterone in my body again. I'd rather be castrated and without estrogen, than full of testosterone.
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Post by: Dena on October 01, 2017, 07:12:08 PM
Menopause is a terrible thing to go through. I tried it once and I would prefer not to do it again. Beside that, your femininity isn't locked in and without some estrogen in your system, your body will relocate fat.

In my case, I was very careful to get enough calcium and vitamin D in my diet to prevent bone damage. I suspect there may also be a gene involved in this as well so some people are more susceptible than others. In any case, they will have to take my estrogen from my cold dead hands!  ;D
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Post by: Jenntrans on October 02, 2017, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: Allie24 on September 29, 2017, 07:54:05 PM
Thank you all for your advice... I really needed some talking down there. About twenty four hours after publishing the initial post I was able to get my head straight. I'm not going to castrate myself... as desperate as I feel to have something done I'm willing to wait until a doctor can do it properly.

I have an unhealthy obsession with annihilation. I fear everything I know and love disappearing. I'm sure it has a lot more to do with me, though, than the rest of the world, and this is something I will definitely be bringing up with my therapist.

I just hate having this thing attached to me like some toxic growth that is going to poison my body if I don't take my spiro... ugh. To have it done away with will be a mercy.

Yeah well annihilation, inebriation and so on?

There are going to be no Mega Tornadoes, global Warming or Climate change great granschildrenx100 will be dealing with. But Tornadoes now that may knock out your power for a week or destroy you home, Hurricanes and Puerto Rico is having a hard time now, and Ice Storm, Blizzard or whatever else. It is really good to be prepared with at least a weeks worth of food on hand. But Castration with a Rubber band?

I am glad you got out of "the idea" because within about three days you would be in excruciating pain and then go septic and then when the grid was up again Allie may be no more. :'(

Hey I prep for the apocalypse too. It really isn't a bad thing to do. Within a week you can have wine. You have enough food for a week at least and if you have and can shoot a .22 then the squirrels are plentiful because no on hunts them anymore.

But the world is not going to end tomorrow so don't put your life at stake especially if you have a BF and so on.

So don't sweat the small stuff and I am sure others will laugh at me so go ahead everyone. ::) But I damn sure ain't going to put my junk in a tourniquet because if something happens then my whole attention would be on keeping myself and my BF alive and not whatever dysphoria I may feel And I seriously doubt my BF would leave me for another woman.

It may sound like BS but am I wrong?