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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Ashley_wolf on January 07, 2018, 06:41:16 PM

Title: Need some advice
Post by: Ashley_wolf on January 07, 2018, 06:41:16 PM
Hey girls I have a question. I am starting HRT I believe tomorrow and I'm absolutely stoked but I seriously have a lot of work to do before I will pass in my book. Face wise I have tried makeup and its just not working. I'm afraid of not passing and it affecting my work because people will just see a ugly guy trying to be a girl [emoji22]

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Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Cassi on January 07, 2018, 06:45:34 PM
What I'm trying is let the HeaRT do its job and go from there.  I have been playing with a little mascara, liner, and lip gloss mainly for the learning curve.

The way I see it, the HeaRT will make me look different from what I am now and even if it makes me look like
Bea Arthur it will help my voice :)
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Harley Quinn on January 07, 2018, 06:48:39 PM
Makeup can do wonders.  The trick is in shading to exaggerate and accentuate your favorite qualities.  What is the issue with makeup specifically?  Perhaps there's a simple trick to help you out.  I have had a lot of makeup coaching over the years.  It's one of my passions.
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Cassi on January 07, 2018, 06:50:20 PM
Not sure yet.
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Ashley_wolf on January 07, 2018, 06:52:47 PM
Quote from: Harley Quinn on January 07, 2018, 06:48:39 PM
Makeup can do wonders.  The trick is in shading to exaggerate and accentuate your favorite qualities.  What is the issue with makeup specifically?  Perhaps there's a simple trick to help you out.  I have had a lot of makeup coaching over the years.  It's one of my passions.
I broke my nose 12 times so its large and ugly and I have a square jaw.

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Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Harley Quinn on January 07, 2018, 07:02:39 PM
Contouring.  add a little highlighter to the tip of your nose, and some light bronzer to the sides of your nose.  Then blend.  Jaw you can do similar.  Add a highlight to the tip of your chin, and shade the very bottom edge of your jawline on either side.  Brighter lipstick will draw the eye to your lips.  You can do either your lips or your eyes bright.  Bright red lips means muted eye shadows.  Bright eyeshadows mean nude lip colors.  And always groom your brows. 

I prefer brushes to sponges for makeup application.  I think they blend better and give you good coverage without getting that caked on feeling.  More of an airbrushed look.  Less is more when it comes to makeup...  You want full coverage, but you don't want it heavy.  Mac and Loreal have very full coverage, and they work well early on in transition when you're covering up your pores.  Those will shrink with the hormones, and you can branch out to other brands with lighter coverage.

Benefit has Pore-fessional - a pore shrinking cream.  That works quite well.  Mac has a liquid highlighter pen that is a little orange.  It works under your foundation to get rid of beard shadow and razor burn.  It also feels quite sheer.  Don't be tempted to try it under your eyes though.  it'll crack and show off some crazy crows feet for no reason.  Regular concealer works just fine for the under eye.  Dark bags I like Benefit's Boing concealer.  It goes on easy like eye primer.  Wonderful stuff and it lasts forever.

If you're in need of makeup, you can usually get a free lesson for about $60 in product from the Mac counter.  Which is easy to spend.  You can kill 2 birds with one stone so to speak.  There are also some aestheticians that will give lessons for $40 or 50.  It'll go on for an hour.

Another thing you can look at is how you wear your hair.  Your hair can soften or make your face look more rigid.  Depending on how you wear it.

I admittedly have never broken my nose.  But I have been in 10 motorcycle accidents over the years and have plenty of scars on my face.  Asphault at 50 will leave an impression.  I have scars from road rash, steel pipes, bottles, peoples teeth...  you name it.  Properly applied makeup can fix most of it...  I have no doubt that you can shade the bridge of your nose to slim it down.
Title: Re: Need some advice
Post by: Denise on January 08, 2018, 09:50:45 AM
Makeup is but one thing.  If you are walking down the street and you're 20 feet from someone you don't typically notice their makeup.  Clothes, attitude, walk, stance, hair, and more make up you mind instantly.

They're are all sorts of other things to work on.  In my case I started "passing" 99% one day compared to 60% the day before.  I attributed it to a 1/2 inch (1cm) adjustment to the part in my hair.  Even I saw Denise in the mirror that day.  My whole attitude and Outlook changed that day totally unexpectedly. 

I own who I am now.  I'm confident.  I look people in the eye and smile more. The only time I get misgendered is on the phone or when someone isn't looking at me prior to taking.

Face / makeup isn't everything although it helps.

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Title: Need some advice
Post by: elkie-t on January 08, 2018, 10:34:23 AM
Confidence is a big thing. Even if you don't pass, but put as little as lipstick - but look confident and happy, people generally accept your right to be whoever you want to be.

Edit: I suggest to always put some make up on though. Not to hide your face, but to add visible cues how you want to be perceived. As little as lip gloss, but if you want - you can add mascara and eye shadows, foundation and blush (or bronzer), etc