I don't know why but I am worried about buying pants/slacks, and summer shorts after time on HRT.
I have been on HRT for almost 6 weeks now and have no change in the waist or hip that I notice.
After about a year I expect (and hope) things will change in that region.
Will I need to buy women's or will I still be able to wear men's jeans.
How do I equate a man's size to a woman's sizing?
AJ
Hips and waist seem to be about the slowest to change. Losing weight early will help. It's hard to get rid of belly fat after HRT. Set yourself in for the long haul. HRT can take 5 to 7 years to complete.
As to converting men's sizes to women's sizes, you don't really. Women's sizes are inconsistent from manufacturer to manufacturer. They can be cut differently because women's clothes aren't baggy like men's. Also there's no correlation between women's waists and women's butts.
You have to pick things out and try them on. This is a feature, not a bug. [emoji6]
The spy who came in from the cold in the War Between the Sexes.
Dee,
Thanks for affirming that weight loss is important - I have been working hard on that.
"As to converting men's sizes to women's sizes, you don't really. Women's sizes are inconsistent from manufacturer to manufacturer. They can be cut differently because women's clothes aren't baggy like men's. Also there's no correlation between women's waists and women's butts."
Thank you for the conversion lesson.
Learning a lot and it looks like I have plenty of time to research.
I am sure I will need help from my wife when this is necessary.
Quote from: Faith on January 24, 2018, 06:56:46 AM
but it bugs me
Faith you don't like shopping? [emoji6]
I have a love/hate relationship with it myself.
AJ, my wife has been a lot of help as well.
The spy who came in from the cold in the War Between the Sexes.
Quote from: Dee Marshall on January 24, 2018, 07:20:44 AM
Faith you don't like shopping? [emoji6]
I have a love/hate relationship with it myself.
AJ, my wife has been a lot of help as well.
The spy who came in from the cold in the War Between the Sexes.
Actually, I love clothes shopping with my wife .. I hate the guess work. Carry 20+ slacks into the fitting room, keep 1 or 2. All I ask is just a little more consistency in sizing :P I'm very conservative shopping right now. Not going through HRT (yet) and still losing weight, I can't buy too many that may become unwearable.
This topic caught my eye since I also have no idea what my hips and butt will do.
Given a bit of time fat will move down from the belly to the hips and butt. It makes it a bit challenging to find non baggy men's jeans that fit, but I pretty much only buy women's clothes now anyway. As for sizes? Its a lottery. One brand's 18 is another brand's 16. Very annoying. As a rule 2-3xl in a women's size seems to match xl in men's.
I'm down to my last two pairs 501's. All my other male pants no longer fit. Too long and too big. Go figure. I thought what would happen is my butt wouldn't fit! My butt has gained an inch since starting E, but don't think it's noticeable. My lower legs have thinned, actually to a a nice shape. Is it my perception that they are thinner or are my thighs getting larger? Unfortunately that is one stat I have not kept a record of.
OMG this is my 666th post!🧟♀️
Even the same brand can be a different size despite being labeled as the same size. My wife and I went shopping for shoes at Academy Sports. She was looking at shorts for work. She grabbed two pairs that were the same size and cut but a different color. After she tried them on she showed me how one size was smaller in the waist by over an inch.
She does hate how I can eyeball a piece of clothing and know if it will fit me the first time or not.
Quote from: krobinson103 on January 24, 2018, 08:56:09 AM
Given a bit of time fat will move down from the belly to the hips and butt. It makes it a bit challenging to find non baggy men's jeans that fit, but I pretty much only buy women's clothes now anyway. As for sizes? Its a lottery. One brand's 18 is another brand's 16. Very annoying. As a rule 2-3xl in a women's size seems to match xl in men's.
When I started buying women's pants back in December, all I had memory of was a pair of 18s my late wife had given me. In Men's I wear a 42 so I tried to research and came up with 22's. I bought a couple of 22's that have no belt hoops - just elastic and they're too big. I went to 20's and they're fine, both looped and unlooped though it was weird only having 5 loops (not counting the double loop in back). Then I got brave and purchase 18's and they fit and were flattering except for one pair which I have to lay on my back to zip up. Go figure.
I haven't worn man pants or undies all year :)
Quote from: Cassi on January 24, 2018, 11:45:13 AM
When I started buying women's pants back in December, all I had memory of was a pair of 18s my late wife had given me. In Men's I wear a 42 so I tried to research and came up with 22's. I bought a couple of 22's that have no belt hoops - just elastic and they're too big. I went to 20's and they're fine, both looped and unlooped though it was weird only having 5 loops (not counting the double loop in back). Then I got brave and purchase 18's and they fit and were flattering except for one pair which I have to lay on my back to zip up. Go figure.
I haven't worn man pants or undies all year :)
At 6'4" it's the length. And luckily Penny's have talls. I wear 18 tall which has an inseam of 34" some women's pants have length to 37" Places I have checked into for fashion wear. Venus Very Sexy Talls, JC Penney, ASOS, Alloy, Long Tall Sally, Torrid. Cheap clothing at Old Navy in tall. Poor quality but? Tall's usually are 2" longer. For shoes I order from Shoes of Prey, They are custom made to size 15. They are high quality shoes. I have not been too satisfied with shoes from Long Tall Sally. I tried to cram my feet into size 13's from Payless but that didn't work.
You are doomed to have the same hips you always had as bone does not expand. You may lose a layer of fat that repositions in your buttocks. After a year and a half on HRT it is getting harder to shoe horn my beautiful butt into man pants. Now, if it only stops there.
Quote from: DawnOday on January 24, 2018, 11:56:34 AM
At 6'4" it's the length. And luckily Penny's have talls. I wear 18 tall which has an inseam of 34" some womens pants have length to 37" Places I have checked into for fashion wear. Venus Tall
There was a time when I was 5' 10" tall but some growth fairy stole 3" from me and I'm now a little over 5' 7". If this keeps happening I'll be a dwarf in no time :(
Quote from: Cassi on January 24, 2018, 12:19:33 PM
There was a time when I was 5' 10" tall but some growth fairy stole 3" from me and I'm now a little over 5' 7". If this keeps happening I'll be a dwarf in no time :(
But you will be tall enough for the "Game of Thrones" redo.
Quote from: DawnOday on January 24, 2018, 12:24:48 PM
But you will be tall enough for the "Game of Thrones" redo.
Oh, a female what's his name :)
All of you are so much fun😊
Thanks for the great responses.
Quote from: ajtent on January 24, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
All of you are so much fun😊
Thanks for the great responses.
Humor is the best form of medicine as long as it isn't taken at the cost of someone else' feelings :)
Quote from: RobynTx on January 24, 2018, 10:33:21 AM
Even the same brand can be a different size despite being labeled as the same size.
Worse! At old navy I bought two pairs of EXACTLY THE SAME jeans. One fit perfectly (the one I tried on), the other was tight in the leg. Both exactly the same size, model, color etc. I'm guessing different textile maybe or lot.
Quote from: jill610 on January 24, 2018, 01:52:37 PM
Worse! At old navy I bought two pairs of EXACTLY THE SAME jeans. One fit perfectly (the one I tried on), the other was tight in the leg. Both exactly the same size, model, color etc. I'm guessing different textile maybe or lot.
Kinda makes ya wonder if thar ain't some kinda conspiracy going on. Invisible midgets messing with labels??????
Quote from: Cassi on January 24, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
Kinda makes ya wonder if thar ain't some kinda conspiracy going on. Invisible midgets messing with labels??????
Ugh so frustrating. Lol!
Quote from: Cassi on January 24, 2018, 01:17:37 PM
Humor is the best form of medicine as long as it isn't taken at the cost of someone else' feelings :)
My wife said that I can't get hippy .. no, wait, that's not quite right ....
Quote from: Faith on January 24, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
My wife said that I can't get hippy .. no, wait, that's not quite right ....
Think she meant Hoppy and was referring to your froggy PJs :)
Quote from: Cassi on January 24, 2018, 12:26:48 PM
Oh, a female what's his name :)
This is a redo so things change what might have been male now has the opportunity to be female. There are female little people ya know. Linda Hunt comes to mind.
Quote from: DawnOday on January 24, 2018, 02:23:27 PM
This is a redo so things change what might have been male now has the opportunity to be female. There are female little people ya know. Linda Hunt comes to mind.
She's a leprechaun so doesn't count :)
Quote from: Cassi on January 24, 2018, 02:04:56 PM
Think she meant Hoppy and was referring to your froggy PJs :)
[emoji445] Don' worry,... be hoppy! [emoji445]
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Quote from: Jessica on January 24, 2018, 09:02:44 AMOMG this is my 666th post!🧟♀️
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After only 3 months I tried on some gal jeans and thought I'd left them in the drier too long, they seemed to fit perfectly. Then I looked in the mirror and realized some fat had already migrated down there. Got a lucky break! Have been yo-yoing around 160 lbs for about a year and a half now so that's sent fat here and there post-HRT.
Quote from: Jessica on January 24, 2018, 09:02:44 AM
I'm down to my last two pairs 501's. All my other male pants no longer fit. Too long and too big. Go figure. I thought what would happen is my butt wouldn't fit! My butt has gained an inch since starting E, but don't think it's noticeable. My lower legs have thinned, actually to a a nice shape. Is it my perception that they are thinner or are my thighs getting larger? Unfortunately that is one stat I have not kept a record of.
OMG this is my 666th post!🧟♀️
Would have been OMD!
674 sweetheart!
Quote from: Cassi on January 24, 2018, 10:09:57 PM
Would have been OMD!
674 sweetheart!
You found that comment 8 comments later. I'm all over the place!
Quote from: Jessica on January 24, 2018, 10:24:11 PM
You found that comment 8 comments later. I'm all over the place!
I was referring to your Oh My God, or in fed lingo, Organized Motorcycle Gang. In either case, 666 should have been Oh My Devil or Devyl(n).
Quote from: Cassi on January 24, 2018, 10:26:59 PM
I was referring to your Oh My God, or in fed lingo, Organized Motorcycle Gang. In either case, 666 should have been Oh My Devil or Devyl(n).
Oh, I'm not as quick as you Cassi. Good call.
OH MY DEVLYN!! Lol, Jess
I'm pre-hrt pre-op. I've been making pants and tops for myself for the last 4 years and previously got custom stuff I designed from tailors for 7 years... (I stopped when they would go - men's pants aren't supposed to look like that)
I don't know what happens to hips...but whatever happens if you want to go down the crafts road you can style your own appearance.
I've messed up a lot of times... But I always wore my mistakes [emoji4][emoji4] - learning curve. You can do it without a background in design... You just need great love for yourself and some internet resources. I used Leena dot com and pattern maker software to make basic cuts then I would modify them to suit my needs.
All the best.
Hugs [emoji213][emoji213][emoji213]
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Quote from: jeipea on January 25, 2018, 11:17:22 PM
I'm pre-hrt pre-op. I've been making pants and tops for myself for the last 4 years and previously got custom stuff I designed from tailors for 7 years... (I stopped when they would go - men's pants aren't supposed to look like that)
I don't know what happens to hips...but whatever happens if you want to go down the crafts road you can style your own appearance.
I've messed up a lot of times... But I always wore my mistakes [emoji4][emoji4] - learning curve. You can do it without a background in design... You just need great love for yourself and some internet resources. I used Leena dot com and pattern maker software to make basic cuts then I would modify them to suit my needs.
All the best.
Hugs [emoji213][emoji213][emoji213]
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I thought of trying that and could probably pull it off if I tried, but time and patience (lack of) will probably prevent it.
I can build a house, fix the car, tear down a washer or dryer and fix them, fix computers, build websites and more - but am intimidated by sewing?
I do remove and resew the straps in my nighties as they come with straight straps and I like them better when they cross in the back.
I don't make sense sometimes...
AJ
Quote from: ajtent on January 26, 2018, 01:13:52 PM
I thought of trying that and could probably pull it off if I tried, but time and patience (lack of) will probably prevent it.
I can build a house, fix the car, tear down a washer or dryer and fix them, fix computers, build websites and more - but am intimidated by sewing?
I do remove and resew the straps in my nighties as they come with straight straps and I like them better when they cross in the back.
I don't make sense sometimes...
AJ
Wow you are awesome [emoji92][emoji92]
I can't do any of those things - I'm sure you can definitely pull it off... It does take time but it sounds like you have the aptitude for it.
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