So, a friend told me that apparently a lot of trans-people are left-handed. She's left handed and I am left handed, and we looked it up and so is Caitlyn Jenner. Are any of your ladies/dudes lefties?
Right handed here.
I am right handed, never paid attention to it. I will secretly check my friends at our next society meeting. :)
Someone told me that. I replied "I am always right, and always have been". Of course, women are always right, but I was referring to being right handed.
Left handed here.
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left handed here, adding to the stereotype :P
When I was first learning to write, way back in the Paleolithic era, I'd use whichever hand that big fat pencil happened to be in. I was "corrected" and taught that I had to use my right hand. Whether I would have ended up a lefty if I'd been left alone I guess I'll never know.
I do eat left-handed though. It just makes more sense to have the knife in my right hand.
Stephanie
Right handed, but left eye dominant so I learned to be left handed for shooting purposes.
Left On!!!!!
Left Power!!!!!!
Left-handers think with the right side of their minds!!!!!!
And why, Yes - I'm a proud left-hander!
Ambidexter here
Lefty here! Quite strong left dominated.
Apparently, being left handed used to be associated with the devil, as was being red haired (which I also am) and I was born on Friday 13th. I'm sure being gay and trans is also probably associated with evil by most religions.
Not much hope for me really!! lol. >:-) >:-) ;D ;D
Im a lefty too
My nan tried for ages to.make me right handed but didnt work )
I am right-handed for everything except firing a rifle, for some reason I tend do that left-handed. One of my daughters, who is non-binary, is also right handed. My wife and other daughter are left-handed.
Very left wing here!
Oh. You didn't mean that sort of lefty.
Well, I'm right-handed in virtually everything with a little bit of shambledextrosity thrown in for good measure.
Quote from: VickyS on February 13, 2018, 04:17:41 AM
Apparently, being left handed used to be associated with the devil
It's pretty obvious when you look at the Latin words for each:
Right is dexter.
Left is sinister.
So endeth the pedantic entry of the day. [emoji849]
Stephanie
I use either hand for chopsticks. And I'm bisexual.
Ambi here. I write left but do everything both. It makes sports quite complicated.
Quote from: Kendra on February 13, 2018, 05:54:06 AM
I use either hand for chopsticks. And I'm bisexual.
I use both hands for chopsticks. One stick in each hand.
Stephanie
Quote from: Shambles on February 13, 2018, 05:25:19 AM
Im a lefty too
My nan tried for ages to.make me right handed but didnt work )
I'm a lefty. My grade 3 teacher was one who believed people should only write with their right hand and I received a ruler over my knuckles for using my left hand.
However, the question is how many trans are lefty vs the general population. Is there a significant difference?
I am very strongly right-handed. My left hand is just along for the ride. The only thing left about me is my politics. :angel:
I'm left handed and use my left to draw, write, paint and carve, golf. I use my right for violin, guitar, silverware and knitting, mousing. Maybe I'm bi:) (handed)
Bari Jo
I am left handed in almost all things.
Like Stephanie I consider I eat main course left handed as I have knife in my right hand. I eat soup with spoon in my left hand and dessert with spoon in my left hand. Hence journey to mouth from left hand always. Illogical to me that right handers also eat main course left handedly.
My exception as I suppose I just go along with it - the mouse is on my right and I hence use my right hand.
Left handed here. Though my preschool teacher made me write with my right hand so that's the only way I know how, but I'm left handed for sure.
Quote from: MeTony on February 13, 2018, 02:25:14 AM
Ambidexter here
Quote from: Kendra on February 13, 2018, 05:54:06 AM
I use either hand for chopsticks. And I'm bisexual.
My Latin teacher in high school wanted to add the word ambisextrous to the dictionary for bisexual.
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I am left handed but I can do many things with my right hand
Sometimes I feel left behind. I don't know if that's right.
Quote from: Kendra on February 13, 2018, 09:03:02 AM
Sometimes I feel left behind. I don't know if that's right.
If that's wrong I don't want to be right.
- Stephanie
Right said Fred; get yo sexy on😀
right handed. I used to be ambidextrous but years of ignoring my left turned it into a limp wobbly worthless appendage .. so that makes two of them.
Also, to those that commented about eating with their left, that is normal for right-handed people. You use your dominant hand to use the knife which requires more fine control than stabbing with a fork.
Right handed here.
I am a total klutz with my left hand....
I am definitely right handed and was right handed long before I knew that I needed to transition.
I wonder where that fake theory originated??
Quote from: Aspiringperson on February 13, 2018, 09:54:08 AM
Right handed here.
I am a total klutz with my left hand....
I am definitely right handed and was right handed long before I knew that I needed to transition.
I wonder where that fake theory originated??
I blame the liberal left, they want credit for everything!!
disclaimer:
that's intended for humor only, I don't have a political agenda.
Quote from: pamelatransuk on February 13, 2018, 07:30:46 AMIllogical to me that right handers also eat main course left handedly.
I often wondered about that too. It does seem illogical to me, too. It is likely historical: a knife as a weapon was weilded (by right-handers, of course) in the right hand, and since table knifes originated as people's personal daggers, the right side became the side for the knife, forcing the fork, once it was invented, to be used in the left hand.
I can use a fork effectively in the left hand, just because of lifelong habit, first taught as a young child. It is about the only thing I can do left-handed. And I can only do it when holding a knife in my right hand. When eating without a knife, I use the fork in my right hand.
Quotethe mouse is on my right and I hence use my right hand.
OK, I lied, I can mouse with my left hand. Mostly, I use the right. But every six months, my shoulder starts to complain. To avoid a repetetive stress injury, I switch to my left hand for a while.
Quote from: Faith on February 13, 2018, 09:56:43 AM
I blame the liberal left, they want credit for everything!!
disclaimer:
that's intended for humor only, I don't have a political agenda.
Not only do we want credit for everything (why pay cash), but we want to rule the world!!!!!
Quote from: kitchentablepotpourri on February 13, 2018, 09:24:49 AM
Right said Fred; get yo sexy on😀
Poor baby, we still love you even if you are handicapped :)
Nah, I'm right handed.
Except when it comes to playing piano, that's an ambidextrous instrument.
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 13, 2018, 10:01:36 AM
I often wondered about that too. It does seem illogical to me, too. It is likely historical: a knife as a weapon was weilded (by right-handers, of course) in the right hand, and since table knifes originated as people's personal daggers, the right side became the side for the knife, forcing the fork, once it was invented, to be used in the left hand.
I can use a fork effectively in the left hand, just because of lifelong habit, first taught as a young child. It is about the only thing I can do left-handed. And I can only do it when holding a knife in my right hand. When eating without a knife, I use the fork in my right hand.
It always seemed illogical to me to move the fork to your left hand to cut up something with the knife in your right hand, then set the knife down and switch the fork back to your right hand to eat. Lots of extra motion and you have nothing in your other hand to shove something onto your fork.
I'm certainly no cosmopolitan jet-setting world traveler, but it's my understanding that in Europe the fork is held in the left-hand and the knife is held in the right hand and there's no switching back-and-forth. It's seems much more efficient to me.
- Stephanie
Makes sense to me as a right hander since the fork in the left hand is just used to hold the food down while you cut it with the knife; the knife is doing the precision movement and the left is just holding something still and then putting it in your mouth.
Right handed here. The only thing my left hand is any good for is changing gear when I'm driving.
Quote from: fleurgirl on February 12, 2018, 10:18:59 PM
So, a friend told me that apparently a lot of trans-people are left-handed. She's left handed and I am left handed, and we looked it up and so is Caitlyn Jenner. Are any of your ladies/dudes lefties?
Definitely right-handed gal here.
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Quote from: Shiratori on February 13, 2018, 11:30:57 AM
Right handed here. The only thing my left hand is any good for is changing gear when I'm driving.
That must be awkward, with the gear shift on the right side of the steering wheel! ;)
Quote from: Aspiringperson on February 13, 2018, 09:54:08 AM
Right handed here.
I am a total klutz with my left hand....
I am definitely right handed and was right handed long before I knew that I needed to transition.
I wonder where that fake theory originated??
Barrack is left-handed!
From Handedness - Wikikpedia!
5-7% world's population is left-handed they believe. Also, the following may be where the topic of this thread may have originated:
Prenatal hormone exposure
Four studies have indicated that individuals who have had in-utero exposure to diethylstilbestrol (a synthetic estrogen-based fertility drug) were more likely to be left-handed over the clinical control group. Diethylstilbestrol animal studies "suggest that estrogen affects the developing brain, including the part that governs sexual behavior and right and left dominance".[28][29][30][31]
Intelligence
Further information: Handedness and mathematical ability and List of musicians who play left-handed
In his book Right-Hand, Left-Hand, Chris McManus of University College London argues that the proportion of left-handers is increasing and left-handed people as a group have historically produced an above-average quota of high achievers. He says that left-handers' brains are structured differently (in a way that increases their range of abilities) and the genes that determine left-handedness also govern development of the language centers of the brain.[35]
Writing in Scientific American, McManus states that,
Studies in the U.K., U.S. and Australia have revealed that left-handed people differ from right-handers by only one IQ point, which is not noteworthy ... Left-handers' brains are structured differently from right-handers' in ways that can allow them to process language, spatial relations and emotions in more diverse and potentially creative ways. Also, a slightly larger number of left-handers than right-handers are especially gifted in music and math. A study of musicians in professional orchestras found a significantly greater proportion of talented left-handers, even among those who played instruments that seem designed for right-handers, such as violins. Similarly, studies of adolescents who took tests to assess mathematical giftedness found many more left-handers in the population.[36]
Conversely, Joshua Goodman found that evidence that left-handers were overrepresented amongst high end of the cognitive spectrum was weak due to methodological and sampling issues in conducted studies. Goodman also found that left-handers were overrepresented at the low end of the cognitive spectrum, with the mentally disabled being twice as likely to be left-handed compared to the general population, as well as generally lower cognitive and non-cognitive abilities amongst left-handed children.[37]
Early childhood intelligence
Nelson, Campbell, and Michel studied infants and whether developing handedness during infancy correlated with language abilities in toddlers. In the article they assessed 38 infants and followed them through to 12 months and then again once they became toddlers from 18–24 months. What they discovered was that when a child developed a consistent use of its right or left hand during infancy (such as using the right hand to put the pacifier back in, or grasping random objects with the left hand), it was more likely to have superior language skills as a toddler. Children who became lateral later than infancy (i.e., when they were toddlers) showed normal development of language and had typical language scores.[38] The researchers used Bayley scales of infant and toddler development to assess all the subjects.
Health
Lower-birth-weight and complications at birth are positively correlated with left-handness.[39]
A variety of neuropsychiatric and developmental disorders like autism spectrum disorders, depression, bipolar disorder, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, and alcoholism has been associated with left- and mixed-handedness.[40][41]
A 2012 study showed that nearly 40% of children with cerebral palsy were left-handed,[42] while another study demonstrated that Left-handedness was associated with a 62 percent increased risk of Parkinson's Disease in women, but not in men.[43] Another study suggests that the risk of developing multiple sclerosis increases for left-handed women, but the effect is unknown for men at this point.[44]
Left-handed women have a higher risk of breast cancer than right-handed women and the effect is greater post-menopausal.[45]
At least one study maintains that left-handers are more likely to suffer from heart disease, and in a cardiovascular context, are more likely to have reduced longevity.[46]
Left-handers are more likely to suffer bone fractures.[47]
One systematic review concluded: "Left-handers showed no systematic tendency to suffer from disorders of the immune system".[48]
If handedness is entirely genetic, these health problems mean left-handness could be eliminated through natural selection. However, left-handers enjoy an advantage in fighting and sports increasing their likelihood of reproduction.[49]
Today Susan's Place! Tomorrow the World unless of course Susan is left-handed :)
QuoteLower-birth-weight and complications at birth are positively correlated with left-handness.[39]
My birth weight was 8 pounds 8.5 ounces. I don't remember any complications from then, but my memories of that day are a bit fuzzy. :D
QuoteLeft-handers are more likely to suffer bone fractures.[47]
Never had one.
QuoteAlso, a slightly larger number of left-handers than right-handers are especially gifted in music and math
Those would apply to me.
Quote from: Steph2.0 on February 13, 2018, 10:15:57 AM
It always seemed illogical to me to move the fork to your left hand to cut up something with the knife in your right hand, then set the knife down and switch the fork back to your right hand to eat. Lots of extra motion and you have nothing in your other hand to shove something onto your fork.
I'm certainly no cosmopolitan jet-setting world traveler, but it's my understanding that in Europe the fork is held in the left-hand and the knife is held in the right hand and there's no switching back-and-forth. It's seems much more efficient to me.
- Stephanie
My waistline is evidence that I am quite well advanced in the art of left handed fork wielding whilst being right handed.
Unlike Inigo Montoya or the Dread Pirate Roberts, I can only wield a blade in my right hand.
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Quote from: AnneK on February 13, 2018, 12:41:29 PM
My birth weight was 8 pounds 8.5 ounces. I don't remember any complications from then, but my memories of that day are a bit fuzzy. :D
Never had one.
Those would apply to me.
Premie, don't remember either and parents have been long gone so I can only AssUme :)
Quote from: Cassi on February 13, 2018, 12:44:31 PM
Premie, don't remember either and parents have been long gone so I can only AssUme :)
I still have the paper they gave my mother, when she left the hospital with me.
Quote from: AnneK on February 13, 2018, 12:47:51 PM
I still have the paper they gave my mother, when she left the hospital with me.
Come on. Everyone knows they didn't have hospitals when you and I were born :)
But of note is that had I been born a premie a year earlier they didn't have incubators in hospitals and doctors would send the babies home with the possibility of not being around for long.
Ambisextrous, but favor left hand for writing and using utensils. It really freaks people out when I'm on the computer and on the phone with a handset/headset on my left ear, writing with my left hand and using a mouse with my right hand all at the same time.
I'm on the computer and on the phone with a handset/headset on my left ear, writing with my left hand and using a mouse with my right hand all at the same time.
I do that all the time, well not with ear piece anymore, but mouse and writing.
I should have been a doctor if my handwriting is any indication. I think my motor skills were under developed due to being a Premie :)
Quote from: AnneK on February 13, 2018, 11:36:59 AM
That must be awkward, with the gear shift on the right side of the steering wheel! ;)
I'm in the UK. The gearstick is on the left hand side as our cars are right hand drive. ;)
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 13, 2018, 10:01:36 AM
I often wondered about that too. It does seem illogical to me, too. It is likely historical: a knife as a weapon was weilded (by right-handers, of course) in the right hand, and since table knifes originated as people's personal daggers, the right side became the side for the knife, forcing the fork, once it was invented, to be used in the left hand.
I can use a fork effectively in the left hand, just because of lifelong habit, first taught as a young child. It is about the only thing I can do left-handed. And I can only do it when holding a knife in my right hand. When eating without a knife, I use the fork in my right hand.
OK, I lied, I can mouse with my left hand. Mostly, I use the right. But every six months, my shoulder starts to complain. To avoid a repetetive stress injury, I switch to my left hand for a while.
Thank you Kathy for the interesting historical analysis of what you and I consider to be illogical. I accept others viewpoint that perhaps the cutting with the knife may be more significant than the journey to the mouth by the fork.
On a more serious note, I note that some of you were forced to write with your right hand and I assume that practice has now ceased?
Pamela
In the military and going way way back, the salute was initially a gesture to show superiors that the approaching subordinate was unarmed and thereby no threat. Same goes with the handshake.
Makes you wonder if the use of the right hand was later forced upon some because of these early beginnings.
Quote from: Shiratori on February 14, 2018, 06:13:49 AM
I'm in the UK. The gearstick is on the left hand side as our cars are right hand drive. ;)
And you also drive on the wrong side of the road! ;)
Quote from: AnneK on February 14, 2018, 07:54:15 AM
And you also drive on the wrong side of the road! ;)
64 years olds think alike, I was going to say the same thing but got side-tracked :)
Quote from: pamelatransuk on February 14, 2018, 07:19:33 AM
On a more serious note, I note that some of you were forced to write with your right hand and I assume that practice has now ceased?
There are probably some people somewhere that still force lefties to write with the right hand, but it has pretty much died out in the mainstream. My older brother (born 1950) is a leftie. My mother made sure that his school would not try to force him to write with his right hand. So I guess this was an active campaign in the late 1950s to early 1960s.
Quote from: AnneK on February 13, 2018, 11:36:59 AM
That must be awkward, with the gear shift on the right side of the steering wheel! ;)
I have actually driven a stick-shift, shifting with my left hand. And it wasn't in Britain. It was a left-hand-drive car, driving on the right side of the road. And yes, it was awkward! It was hard to turn the key with my left hand, too.
I had crushed my right hand, and drove myself to Emergency. I couldn't justify an ambulance, and the thought of calling a cab just never occurred to me. So I drove left-handed, steering with my knee while I shifted.
I'm left handed but I kick with my right foot
I'm ambidextours but my dad is left handed
Quote from: Maddie86 on February 14, 2018, 06:38:07 PM
I'm left handed but I kick with my right foot
Didn't Billy Jack to that too?
I an not a huge fan of these kinds of threads, tell you why then.
I was forced to write right handed but really I can do both. I will grab the pen without thinking about it sometimes and write with my left hand. I am a tiny bit neater with my right though so when writing is needed I will mostly use that hand. I can throw a ball or bat with either hand, my right handed spiral with a football is garbage. That was 30 years ago though 😁 probably couldn't hit the ground with a ball now if you gave me 10 tries. I sew slower with my left hand. I live right handed so I think of myself as right handed. It's easy enough to use either for almost anything and it pops out occasionally but it is rare for anyone to notice.
Why I dislike threads similar to this? First off, there is nothing wrong with it, but I think that they often degenerate into a litmus test for trans identity. That is very sad to me. Right handed or left handed, index finger being the same size as the middle finger, elbow angle, narrow waist, big hips, short, slight of build, none of that makes anyone trans. What is even more sad to me is the belief that what no one has any control over makes one person better than a other. I am kinda smart, from what I have seen there are two separate types of IQ tests, I generally score lower 150s in the one and upper 160s in the other. I have a friend who is a computer wizz, totally amazing, like in 1998 at the age of 19 making $70,000 at GE amazing. He can do anything though, give him something that needs done and he will do it. He used to send me links to IQ tests all the time and get furious that he scored lower. I eventually had to stop doing them to save our friendship. He never understood that it doesn't matter. I can't do what he does, I am a mess actually. Struggle taking care of myself or doing so many things that most people find easy. I manage but it has led me close to ruin many times. How can he possibly think that IQ means anything at all?
So, why does that mean anything to this thread? It's a GIFT if you are MtF and short and slight or whatever, left handed or maybe not, it is an accident of genetic material and nothing we have done. Only the shallowist people judge others by their gifts, most people judge others by their actions. So why put any importance on which hand we use or whichever trans indicators come to mind?
Lol, I know this is stupid. The thread is okay and the question valid. What I am trying to get across and probably failing at is that if you are right handed it means absolutely nothing as to whether you are trans or not.
Okay, shutting up now. 😊
Quote from: Kendra on February 13, 2018, 05:54:06 AM
I use either hand for chopsticks. And I'm bisexual.
Haha, too funny!
Quote from: FinallyMichelle on February 15, 2018, 10:02:00 PM
I an not a huge fan of these kinds of threads, tell you why then.
I was forced to write right handed but really I can do both. I will grab the pen without thinking about it sometimes and write with my left hand. I am a tiny bit neater with my right though so when writing is needed I will mostly use that hand. I can throw a ball or bat with either hand, my right handed spiral with a football is garbage. That was 30 years ago though 😁 probably couldn't hit the ground with a ball now if you gave me 10 tries. I sew slower with my left hand. I live right handed so I think of myself as right handed. It's easy enough to use either for almost anything and it pops out occasionally but it is rare for anyone to notice.
Why I dislike threads similar to this? First off, there is nothing wrong with it, but I think that they often degenerate into a litmus test for trans identity. That is very sad to me. Right handed or left handed, index finger being the same size as the middle finger, elbow angle, narrow waist, big hips, short, slight of build, none of that makes anyone trans. What is even more sad to me is the belief that what no one has any control over makes one person better than a other. I am kinda smart, from what I have seen there are two separate types of IQ tests, I generally score lower 150s in the one and upper 160s in the other. I have a friend who is a computer wizz, totally amazing, like in 1998 at the age of 19 making $70,000 at GE amazing. He can do anything though, give him something that needs done and he will do it. He used to send me links to IQ tests all the time and get furious that he scored lower. I eventually had to stop doing them to save our friendship. He never understood that it doesn't matter. I can't do what he does, I am a mess actually. Struggle taking care of myself or doing so many things that most people find easy. I manage but it has led me close to ruin many times. How can he possibly think that IQ means anything at all?
So, why does that mean anything to this thread? It's a GIFT if you are MtF and short and slight or whatever, left handed or maybe not, it is an accident of genetic material and nothing we have done. Only the shallowist people judge others by their gifts, most people judge others by their actions. So why put any importance on which hand we use or whichever trans indicators come to mind?
Lol, I know this is stupid. The thread is okay and the question valid. What I am trying to get across and probably failing at is that if you are right handed it means absolutely nothing as to whether you are trans or not.
Okay, shutting up now. 😊
Hi, Michelle! Yes, I fully see your point! I wasn't trying to validate any kind of "trans test", I was just genuinely curious. I agree that being short, tall, gay, straight, left-handed-, right-handed, blue-eyed-, brown-eyed has nothing to do with you being transgender! I just wanted to ask the question and see if there was any correlation, whether that correlation mean anything or not. :-) <3
Ambi