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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Passing => Topic started by: Transfused on February 21, 2018, 02:57:06 PM

Title: Longterm in transition as a non-op MtF. Do you get treated differently?
Post by: Transfused on February 21, 2018, 02:57:06 PM
I would like to hear experiences from other MtF women who are non-op and have been in transition long-term.

Do you get treated any differently than post-op trans women, by people who know that you are not planning to have your genitalia reassigned?

Do you experience lectures by people who feel " transer-than-thou " ?

What about your dating life? Do you feel dating is easy or do you have to deal with ->-bleeped-<-s?

I'm MtF and plan to stay non-op. I have been on HRT for quite some time already and plan to stay ln it because I like it's effects. I don't want SRS and I don't plan on an orchiectomy either currently but might get an orchiectomy later down the road.

I am only on Estradiol and my T is nuked. So I don't have any benefits from getting an orchiectomy in that regard.
I am on safe doses of HRT, low doses. My body is very receptive to it. So my liver has not a hard time either, despite being non-operated.

What are your experiences as a non-op trans woman?
I am non-op by choice, not by financial pressure.



Title: Re: Longterm in transition as a non-op MtF. Do you get treated differently?
Post by: Michelle_P on February 22, 2018, 10:57:27 AM
@Transfused, this is an interesting topic, as out in the world there are more transgender folks taking this path than the full surgical transition path.  We far too often make the assumption that all folks in a medical transition are trying for or planning on surgeries.  Some folks haven't got that need.

We are all different, after all, and each of us has to choose our own path.

I hope we can have a good discussion on the topic, as I see this as something important that is often overlooked.  There are many paths one can take under that transgender umbrella, and they are all valid and reasonable for some individual out there. 

Unfortunately, some folks do treat others differently based on the paths they choose, and that just makes me sad.  We are all in this together, and there should be no reason to marginalize someone just because their path is different from one's own.
Title: Re: Longterm in transition as a non-op MtF. Do you get treated differently?
Post by: Transfused on February 22, 2018, 11:15:16 AM
Quote from: Michelle_P on February 22, 2018, 10:57:27 AM
@Transfused, this is an interesting topic, as out in the world there are more transgender folks taking this path than the full surgical transition path.  We far too often make the assumption that all folks in a medical transition are trying for or planning on surgeries.  Some folks haven't got that need.

We are all different, after all, and each of us has to choose our own path.

I hope we can have a good discussion on the topic, as I see this as something important that is often overlooked.  There are many paths one can take under that transgender umbrella, and they are all valid and reasonable for some individual out there. 

Unfortunately, some folks do treat others differently based on the paths they choose, and that just makes me sad.  We are all in this together, and there should be no reason to marginalize someone just because their path is different from one's own.


Thank you MichelleP :-)

I agree, you don't hear much about this path.
Beautiful put : we are in this together. If we won't fight for each others rights, who will?

Elissa
Title: Re: Longterm in transition as a non-op MtF. Do you get treated differently?
Post by: Meghan on March 13, 2018, 12:16:11 AM
I'm involved with TransWomen Support Group in San Jose, and I already met plenty Trans Woman who is on HRT for a long time and never got surgery. We just treat everyone equally since we all have different path for transition.

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Title: Re: Longterm in transition as a non-op MtF. Do you get treated differently?
Post by: Maria77 on April 11, 2018, 10:17:35 PM
I transitioned almost 20 years ago and at that point at least in the city I was living in, some  post-ops were deeply suspicious of those tranz who didn't immediately head to Shrang (passed away maybe 10 years ago), Biber, Toby or Menard.  Brassard was just starting and everyone was raving about his skills and how handsome he was.  The Thai surgeons were just picking up steam, although Dr. Preecha was well known.  Those older women transitioned in the 1990s.  My generation was all over the map.  Some wanted immediate srs even if the passed zero % of the time, more conservative folks like me and thenthose who actually liked their junk.  If anything in the following years it has just gotten more diverse and I think our community is more understanding of the winding roads of life. 
Title: Re: Longterm in transition as a non-op MtF. Do you get treated differently?
Post by: Donna on April 11, 2018, 10:43:58 PM
I'm hoping by now the idea that pre op and post op are the only option. It's no different than just being male and female. Gender is so much more diverse than that. I'm comfortable in my skin and with my presentation and I don't feel out of place. My transition is my choice and mine alone.  I'm going to say I'm preop and my ideas of post op are my own unique ideas. What I end up with or without is private unless I reveal it   No different than a cis person asking THE question of what's in your pants. I don't want to be judged for that by other trans people due to differing final outcome ideas. I'm hoping that these kinds of judgements have gone by the wayside. We all need acceptance and support and especially from within our own community.
Title: Re: Longterm in transition as a non-op MtF. Do you get treated differently?
Post by: BrandiYYC on April 12, 2018, 07:05:04 PM
Why does anybody have to know? Unless you choose to tell them it's none of their business.
Title: Re: Longterm in transition as a non-op MtF. Do you get treated differently?
Post by: Doreen on April 12, 2018, 10:56:31 PM
Until the laws change.. lets just say don't commit any criminal acts or get yourself institutionalized.  All some societies see is what's between your legs.  Not every country is that way, but a frightening large majority are.. and if you have that little bit of 'extra' downstairs, you will go where they dictate.

Not nice to hear, but its the blunt truth.  The last thing you want would be to look female & stuck in a male prison.  Bad bad news.

On a personal level, I really don't care what you have between your legs, its your business :)
Title: Re: Longterm in transition as a non-op MtF. Do you get treated differently?
Post by: SonadoraXVX on April 12, 2018, 11:27:52 PM
True what Doreen says, about being in a male prison and looking female. Out here in the world, I mean nobody really cares at times.
Title: Re: Longterm in transition as a non-op MtF. Do you get treated differently?
Post by: Donna on April 13, 2018, 07:41:24 AM
I commented about this else where. In the province I live in our therapists will provide a "care and treatment letter"
With that even if you are not fully transitioned they have to assign you to incarceration according to the letter. Whether it say something contrary to what bits you have.