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I have put this poll up as I am curious as to how many of us have never had an Adams Apple or do not have a pronounced one.  I am actually a DES Child and have never had an Adams Apple, I have small hands, small feet (for a man), sloping shoulders  and a quite feminine rounded face (before HRT).
JudithLynn

I was the product of DES also.  My Adams  Apple has never been prominent.  My face also was somewhat feminine which is working in my favor now.  As for the rest, my body is quite a mixture of traits.


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I am in the DES age group, but I have no physical signs of DES poisoning. I did have a small but noticeable Adam's apple, but a few months ago I had it shaved and my neck is very smooth now.

Nope, and DES was before my time.  No chest or back hair either.

DES child here and never had an Adam's apple and always had feminine hips.

no

Judith

I see from other posts you moved from UK to Australia. Do you know timespan DES given to UK women perhaps? I was born in 1955 and I assume my mother (sadly now deceased) may have been given it.

I have no Adams Apple and I was told repeatedly by a mother and occasionally by others that I have a feminine face.

Thanking you

Pamela

No Adams Apple here - was asked by a girl in Manchester Village who did my tracheal shave. Guess I'm lucky in that regard

I am another (probable, unconfirmed) DES baby.  I do have an adam's apple, though it is not huge.  I answered with the "very noticeable" option because it is the only one saying that I planned to have the surgery.  "Somewhat noticeable" would be more accurate.

I have quite a few other typical DES symptoms, including almost no body hair (like maybe 12 hairs on my chest), female pubic hair pattern, poor upper body strength, female digit ratio.

No externally noticable adams apple. Feminine skeletal features. Only minor exterior general folds abnormalities.
I had full beard hair but lacked almost all chest and back hair until I was 30. Also now realize I had a triangular (female) pubic hair pattern until around 30 when lower belly and back grew some in with my chest.

Mom knows she had a prescription but has no idea what it actually was. Could have contained DES. Otherwise I and my doctor suspect a mild form of AIS but he says there is no medical reason to undergo the genetic test for it.

I still have unanswered questions.

Barely noticeable Adams Apple, and hidden under the skin. I apparently have enough feminine features to be passing and full-time after only 5 months full-dose HRT. I was born in the right era (1958) but my mom doesn't remember taking any special drugs.

Stephanie

 In spite of the fact that I was a very skinny androgynous 'male' with feminine features and mannerisms, I had an Adams apple that stuck out far enough that it stopped me from passing as female. I had to go under the knife, and have it removed, just so I could go on with my life.

No plans for tracheal shave - not really needed.  Skeletal structure not very masculine.  Did develop a lot of facial and body hair, developed male in other ways but endocrine system went haywire in middle age.  Lost 4 inches (10cm) height between college and early 50s.  That amount of bone loss shocked me into running hormone tests.  For HRT, endocrinologist prescribed just estradiol with no t-blocker. 

I asked my mother if she took DES in 1963 (I was born in the US).  She said no - only took a special iron supplement while she was pregnant, carefully avoided anything else.  But I wonder if an iron supplement marketed to pregnant women in that era may have contained additional "features".

Quote from: Kendra on March 01, 2018, 02:59:51 PM
I asked my mother if she took DES in 1963 (I was born in the US).  She said no - only took a special iron supplement while she was pregnant, carefully avoided anything else.  But I wonder if an iron supplement marketed to pregnant women in that era may have contained additional "features".

I haven't heard about iron supplements containing DES.  But it is well known that some "vitamin supplements" contained DES, so it is certainly plausible.  Especially if it was by prescription, or was marketed specifically to pregnant women.

DES baby (1957), never had Adam's apple but got a voice like Lemmy!

No adam's apple, small hands & smallish feet.  Been told I have feminine features.  Had feminine jaw until surgery to correct Mal-occlusion (mandibular & maxillary osteotomy).  No head hair loss despite being 43 years old.  But lots of body hair, luckily light coloured and some fine.  Female digit ratio and apparently female pubic hair pattern! Did not know that was a thing!

I never had one thankfully. Another reason Im thankful for my mostly ineffective male puberty.

I do not have an adams apple either  nor have never had alarge amount of chest hair thank goodness, what I do have is shaven off plus have started shaving my underarms. Being born in 1954 I am pretty sure I am also a des child as my mother had a miscarriage before  I was born,so I asked her once if she was given anything to prevent another one and she did remember being given vitamins to prevent another so being not very masculine it just stands to reason.   

No I don't have an adams apple one less surgery   

I also sometimes suspect of diethylstilbestrol, but as I know it should have been unavailable in my country (S. Korea) in the 1960s. I have had very feminine body features unlike my brother. Unlike my siblings, I had to eat powdered milk instead of mother's milk, as my mom lacked it. At that time, probably powdered milk from cow that were fed by DES could be imported from other countries, but I have no information on it.

My Adams' apple is very unnoticeable, even compared with my East Asian male friends. My old friends used to make fun of it.

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Dr. Spiegel and Dr. McGinn did not recommend a trachea have. In fact when Dr. McGinn first examined me for FFS she asked if I have a trachea shave. Anyhow, it was shaved as a function of VFS. My thyroid cartledge was placed behind my cricoid cartledge and stitched together.

 dont have one. think i read somwhere that having one is a lack of iodine in the diet while growing up.

Quote from: amandam on March 04, 2018, 03:44:04 PM
dont have one. think i read somwhere that having one is a lack of iodine in the diet while growing up.

Really? That's interesting. My mom always cooked with salt with iodine in it and still does

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No confirmation of DES but mom said she took pregnancy vitamins, which she called "horse pills."

And I was born six weeks premature.  So I am most likely a DES baby.

I have no visible Adam's apple, but I'm only 5 foot 7 and my hands and feet are so big that if I dress young enough I look like a Bratz doll.

As a high school boy, I had a small diminutive body, 5'4" (perhaps 5'5" if I fluff up my hair) with not bulk and no muscle to speak of... and today as a full-time transitioned female I have no visible Adam's Apple.  All of that has saved me quite a bit of money for surgeries that I do not need.

Omg, that's the perfect way to describe me, Bratz Doll, if dressed young. I'm 6'2" and not that kind of young (although a little late for DES). Feminine body except hands, feet and head. Head is 99.5%ile, even for male, and caused by another condition.