I can't help myself ;D!!!
Okay, many people here (including Julia ;)) have told how they didn't develop like their siblings in puberty, or still have/had rather feminine/masculine features regardless!
List here qualities that you think you possess that align with your gender identity! Things like your height, body shape, bone structure, muscles, hairiness or lack of it, face shape, hair/hairline, facial features, hands, feet, legs etc. etc. etc.! What are the things you've thought 'proves' you are indeed a woman/man/whatever :D?! These can be anything - real, concrete ones or more imaginary - anything goes! I'm pretty sure many of us have thought to possess some 'obvious' feminine/masculine features!
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I can start with:
I have a female shaped body and I'm pretty short, there's no denying that! - But I've always felt I have a large bone structure and been pretty muscular my whole life. As a kid I thought I had 'male legs'...
The one thing I'm especially proud of is that I have big arms, especially the part below elbow. My arms look nothing like my spouse's (who's a girl)! With working out plus T I think I'm pretty well-off ;)! I might be short (and 'small' compared to big, tall guys in general) - but at least I don't have a petite frame!!! I always got bullied for that as a kid (people thought I was fat but I was just generally muscular=twice the size the other kids as far as bones/muscles go) - but now I'm grateful!!!
I also think I look somewhat masculine/androgynous on the face, so with mild tweaking with T my face will look awesome I think! Just a little bit of angularization (? is that a word) needed. I think I have a male pattern hairline also. (At least it's definitely not the regular female shape.)
And now with working out my shoulders/pecs are getting stronger so seeing that in the mirror feels just great :)! I'm hoping I have some potential on T!
Most things, tbh. I have narrow hips, a heavy jaw, broad-ish shoulders, muscular upper arms, and I'm hairy as all get-out - I have as much body hair as the average trans guy whose been on T for a year lol. I'm also tallish, almost 5'9".
Fighting the hair and trying to downplay the rest was an absolutely miserable experience when I was trying to be a girl. Realizing I was a man was such a huge relief - all the shame I'd internalized about my body evaporated overnight. Except for the hair... not looking forward to being even hairier lol.
Quote from: BT04 on March 20, 2018, 12:22:22 PM
Most things, tbh. I have narrow hips, a heavy jaw, broad-ish shoulders, muscular upper arms, and I'm hairy as all get-out - I have as much body hair as the average trans guy whose been on T for a year lol. I'm also tallish, almost 5'9".
Oh, lucky you :o!
And it took so long for you to realize you are a man ;D?!
Here is my "before" and also several "after" pics. The before pic of me is at a college game when I was a young college man... I was a skinny runt, 5'4", not muscle or bulk, soft looking girly face and a voice to match. That was unbearable around my classmates and especially in the locker room scene around guys that were men in every way.
After 3 years of HRT I am still small but the problems I had being a young college man that looked like a boy/girl are NOW working in my favor as I have transitioned. I am still small, not a runt, but rather petite ( a better term for a female)... I have refined my mannerisms, walking ,sitting, generally moving around, standing, eating.... and better manners all the way around to more conform to the woman I have become.
The after picture of me very blonde is after a make over I had in early March on my 3 year anniversary of HRT... it really shows my changes to a woman especially in my face as compared to the before "young man" pic. Then there are also some other pics of me as a Full-time woman. I have since darkened my hair a little.... it was just a tad too bright for my liking.... but the makeover, eyebrow work, and salon treatment with a manicure and pedicure were a wonderful time of being pampered.
*** OH NO !!!! I just realized that the OP and the other member that posted appear to be FTM and have posted information related to FTM....
I am so sorry I posted my MTF photos. I will delete my post if this is a problem, just let me know.
Again..... so very sorry.
Danielle
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on March 20, 2018, 01:03:41 PM
*** OH NO !!!! I just realized that the OP and the other member that posted appear to be FTM and have posted information related to FTM....
I am so sorry I posted my MTF photos. I will delete my post if this is a problem, just let me know.
Again..... so very sorry.
Danielle
OMG!!!!!
Shame on you! 75% of your pictures will get them all excited!
I wouldn't be surprised if you were demoted to Official Greeter 2nd Class!
Just kidding. I tend to be the proverbial fart in the skillet, jumping from one skillet to another :) Except I try to ignore the FTM "size" one, lol :)
Without question my legs have been both a curse and a blessing (see picture). I was often humiliated by my extremely long and very feminine legs. My arches were/are too obvious. I had nicknames that I hated (Legs, Leggy, Girly). I learned to never cross my legs or point my feet when sitting. I was laughed at when I wasn't careful enough. Now I love them but I never go out in shorts now. With shaved legs (and overall womanly shape anyway) I still get way too much attention. I always play things down when out (especially now with large breasts)... ::)
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on March 20, 2018, 12:57:29 PM
The before pic of me is at a college game when I was a young college man... I was a skinny runt, 5'4", not muscle or bulk, soft looking girly face and a voice to match. That was unbearable around my classmates and especially in the locker room scene around guys that were men in every way.
College?!! I always thought you were like 13 in that one xD!
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on March 20, 2018, 01:03:41 PM
*** OH NO !!!! I just realized that the OP and the other member that posted appear to be FTM and have posted information related to FTM....
I am so sorry I posted my MTF photos. I will delete my post if this is a problem, just let me know.
Again..... so very sorry.
Danielle
What, NO! Don't remove anything!!! My threads are always for EVERYONE to discuss stuff about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't you dare to remove it!!! Your post was awesome, ;)!
Quote from: Shellie Hart on March 20, 2018, 01:10:56 PM
Without question my legs have been both a curse and a blessing (see picture).
Are those
your legs :o??? This thread is turning into eye candy ;D
I forgot to mention that I have the biggest, manliest calves imaginable xDDD...! I always had difficulties fitting them in boots (even men's)........! They are so not pretty or delicate AT ALL ;D!
Quote from: PurpleWolf on March 20, 2018, 01:18:52 PM
Are those your legs :o??? This thread is turning into eye candy ;D
I forgot to mention that I have the biggest, manliest calves imaginable xDDD...! I always had difficulties fitting them in boots (even men's)........! They are so not pretty or delicate AT ALL ;D!
Yep! Those are mine! No amount of working out would ever make them manly in the least. Wish I could wear heels outside home and show them off a little, but that would be ridiculous with this face. :embarrassed:
LOL, Purple has figured out we're here to excite and get responses!
Not me though, I'm the Den mother :)
I have bigger/ wider hands than most cis women i knew? Not as big as most cis men that I know tho. medium hands
Well, my butt support my gender identification better now and it's getting larger.
I have viewed a number of women and suspect that the rump, hips and legs will follow suit.
Have to lose about 60 pounds and I'll be happy :)
I think mine is my face, voice, height (5'5-5'6) and feet (8 size). I wish my bone structure was more feminine though. I could have wider hips.
Quote from: Aurorasky on March 20, 2018, 02:22:03 PM
I think mine is my face, voice, height (5'5-5'6) and feet (8 size). I wish my bone structure was more feminine though. I could have wider hips.
I think you're right Princess Aurora!
As I've posted before, my size is one thing. Im small, small boned and small hands and feet. I never developed facial or body hair and my voice didn't drop much. Tyler was so proud of his facial hair it distressed him that I didn't have any. After I turned 15 he was always feeling my face checking for facial hair. Once he realized I didn't want it he got over being concerned that I didn't have any. My small size freaked my uncle out and he was always telling my dad to take me to a Dr. He finally did when I was 16 and there was nothing wrong with me. Im just small despite the rest of my family being tall, large people. When I was younger and family members were ways commenting on my small size it made me feel bad but Im glad Im small now.
Quote from: Julia1996 on March 20, 2018, 02:37:48 PM
As I've posted before, my size is one thing. Im small, small boned and small hands and feet. I never developed facial or body hair and my voice didn't drop much. Tyler was so proud of his facial hair it distressed him that I didn't have any. After I turned 15 he was always feeling my face checking for facial hair. Once he realized I didn't want it he got over being concerned that I didn't have any. My small size freaked my uncle out and he was always telling my dad to take me to a Dr. He finally did when I was 16 and there was nothing wrong with me. Im just small despite the rest of my family being tall, large people. When I was younger and family members were ways commenting on my small size it made me feel bad but Im glad Im small now.
Petite Sweetie, not small :)
Quote from: Cassi on March 20, 2018, 02:40:01 PM
Petite Sweetie, not small :)
That does sound better, lol. I've been called runt and scrawny and my brother has called me "Smurf" since I was 10. I like petite much better. Lol
:)
I have several DES-typical characteristics that work in my favour. Poor upper body strength, and un-bulky arm and shoulder muscles. Very little body hair and female pubic hair pattern. A touch of gynecomastia. Not that anyone would care in the real world, but the ratio of my finger lengths is in the female range.
My bone structure works in my favour too. Although I am on the tallish side for a woman (5'8"), I am not tall enough to attract unwanted attention. My hips, while small for a woman, are wide for a male, giving me a plausible figure. I do not have prominent brow ridges. My chin and nose, while larger than average for a woman, are not massive enough to make me want FFS.
My wife is always commenting that clothes look good on me because I am tall enough and slim enough.
Always had broad shoulders.
Always built and kept muscle easily.
Got one of them "male finger length ratio"s, with the indexes being quite a bit shorter than the ring fingers.
My feet are in the men's sizes.
Not a bad jawline.
It's not massive, but I do have a bit more of a brow ridge than the average female face. Or the slope of the forehead and the eye orbits make it appear that I have a fairly strong brow. Eyebrows aren't as arched up as the average female's (I don't do anything to them to change their shape mind you). Men's are supposed to be more horizontal than that and mine naturally are.
Quote from: Kylo on March 20, 2018, 03:33:03 PM
Always had broad shoulders.
Always built and kept muscle easily.
Got one of them "male finger length ratio"s, with the indexes being quite a bit shorter than the ring fingers.
My feet are in the men's sizes.
Not a bad jawline.
It's not massive, but I do have a bit more of a brow ridge than the average female face. Or the slope of the forehead and the eye orbits make it appear that I have a fairly strong brow. Eyebrows aren't as arched up as the average female's (I don't do anything to them to change their shape mind you). Men's are supposed to be more horizontal than that and mine naturally are.
Couldn't tell any of this by looking at your Avatar, awesome!
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DES baby, 1957. Never had muscular arms, very slim wrists, have full head of hair with slight receding which is hidden by bangs, No Adam's apple, high cheekbones, female hips which look even more now, i started to ride a Harley & have hip armour in my kevlar & denim jeans which i always wear. Female "triangle" pubic hair & long legs
*Agender but masculine leaning*- I have hips, but my shoulders and upper back are wider. I hated this when I was younger and still attempted to "fit in" (as female clothing doesn't fit properly or comfortably).
- I'm don't appear overly short. I'm 5'6", but people assume I'm taller and are surprised by my real height.
- My overall bone structure is larger (shoulders, hands, feet, head) and I've always had muscle easily.
- I have a flat butt, which compared to my sister's large butt I'm happy about.
- While I was never flat chested, I wasn't well endowed (like my sister), so I mean it's better than the alternative.
- My eyebrows are more straight than curved (which while I don't touch the shape, I sometimes darken a bit) and my jawbone and face shape is alright.
- My face shape and structure almost mirrors my Dad's face when he was my age (minus my lips, which I hate).
- And while I am not a huge fan of body hair, it grows thick and fast.
Something medically ironic is I had a cyst on my face in the same area my dad did when he was younger. I was told it was more common for guys to get them in that spot because of shaving (which I did with a birthmark there). It wasn't worth the stress of the cyst, but kind of funny looking back at it. ::)
My dad has short, fat fingers. Thankfully I have longer, thinner ones. Also, my hips & backside have always been a little rounder and I had next to no chest hair, and no back hair whatsoever.
Quote from: PurpleWolf on March 20, 2018, 12:32:54 PM
Oh, lucky you :o!
And it took so long for you to realize you are a man ;D?!
HA - not really. Half of it is from PCOS, and some of the other stuff, like the bone structure, might be from a minor expression of Marfan's. (Not sure I want to get tested, tbh.) And yep! Always just assumed I was a sorry excuse for a "girl".
Eyes, hairlessness and fingers.
My eyes never lie, even my eye movements even before transitioning I was told I can be catty because of it. When I get annoyed I my eyes roll when I wink they think it's adorable and when I'm sad my eyes always tears up.
I'm not hairy at all even living as a gay man. My lower legs have some hair but it never really got too long that it had to curl up, my upper legs barely have hair and my arms even without shaving im comfotable with it even now.
My fingers are naturally thin and long. I guess it helped that I play the piano, I even have the same ring size as my sister. I'm also double jointed so I just needed to tweek little with my hand movements and it's already feminine. Even living as a closeted gay man years ago my hand always gives the hint and my hands look great in jewelry.