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This came up in another conversation, and I didn't want to derail it. (It derailed  itself!  :laugh: )

I'd like to see if  people identify as a firm binary gender or something else.

Hugs, Devlyn

Apparently, recent therapist discussions are pegging me as nonbinary. I think they're right.

I guess I'll be second. If this is an all or nothing type question then I am in the non-binary category.


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Quote from: Devlyn Marie on April 04, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
This came up in another conversation, and I didn't want to derail it. (It derailed  itself!  :laugh: )

I'd like to see if  people identify as a firm binary gender or something else.

Hugs, Devlyn

Definitely non-binary for me. To paraphrase the late great David Bowie, "I'm not sure if I'm a boy or a girl." I never was sure, and it never made sense to me why it was important in the first place. I know I'm much more feminine than masculine, but I really can't commit to being 100% female, and I've finally come to a place in my life where I'm happy just to be me.



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None of the above or I don't know.  I don't really care either.  The only thing that I do care about is that the dysphoria is gone and I can live everyday without that weight crushing me.


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I question whether or not I'm an earthling. Binary or non? Does it matter?


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It doesn't matter, it's just a curiosity question. Someone mentioned that they felt more people align with the binary. I think more people align with the grey areas.

I'm both

I'm in a similar boat to what Joni described above , definitely more feminine than masculine but I don't think I could ever count myself in the 100% female basket even as a transgender female. I have multiple shades of gender and sexuality, but I count myself as transgender female more than anything else

so strictly speaking -- non-binary.

Sonja.

Binary, bisexual, bicycle, and bicuspid, bi all the way!

I am gender binary.

Sexuality I am binary with a twist. Pre-Op I could be wth a woman but I did not enjoy it and I had to imagine I was with a guy. Hard to do but doable. Now, post op, I wonder if I could be with anyone other than a guy.

I'm me. I'm a Dad to my kids, bi sexual, transgender women. If being Dad and a women makes for an odd pairing I care not. I am happy and all the anger and anxiety is gone. That is enough.

In my programming days I was hexadecimal, cop days .357 Sig, Navy days .30-06.

In my male days I flew quite a lot; one day after doing aerobatics, I thought I was a hot shot pilot... until I had a conversation with a lesbian. That's when I realized I was a lesbian; we both liked the same thing.

Being transgender female I still prefer women. So what am I?

Best always,

Christine

Quote from: krobinson103 on April 04, 2018, 09:14:17 PM
I'm me. I'm a Dad to my kids, bi sexual, transgender women. If being Dad and a women makes for an odd pairing I care not. I am happy and all the anger and anxiety is gone. That is enough.

Quote from: krobinson103 on April 04, 2018, 09:14:17 PM
I'm me. I'm a Dad to my kids, bi sexual, transgender women. If being Dad and a women makes for an odd pairing I care not. I am happy and all the anger and anxiety is gone. That is enough.

Quote from: HappyMoni on April 04, 2018, 08:08:06 PM
Binary, bisexual, bicycle, and bicuspid, bi all the way!

Quote from: HappyMoni on April 04, 2018, 08:08:06 PM
Binary, bisexual, bicycle, and bicuspid, bi all the way!

Hi.  I'm bran new here and still figuring things out.  Definitely in the non-binary category.  Always knew I was TV but only recently began to realize its more than that.  I think I've been too much of a coward to confront it. Gaining incredible peace looking at the world through a woman's eyes.

Definitely non-binary, but much closer to the feminine end of the spectrum. So I feel much more comfortable living in a female gender role.

Devlyn,

I see no checkbox for hot mess...

Rowan

Quote from: Sno on April 05, 2018, 12:07:31 AM
Devlyn,

I see no checkbox for hot mess...

Rowan

Haha, I figured the hot messes, myself included, would find each other in the discussion!  :laugh:

Hugs, Devlyn

I am mostly binary, but I'm not naive enough to believe I am 100% binary.  There's no way you can live 60 years as a male and not drag some of that stuff along when you transition.  I identify as female.  But where am I on the spectrum?  90%?  95%?  99%?  I don't know.

I feel exactly like Sonja and Kathy - mainly meaning around 90% female. I cannot delete the male side I have lived so long and do not wish to delete the better aspects of it.

Consequently I do not have strong opinion as the whether B or NB but to be precise I vote NB on gender.

(I believe sexuality is separate from gender as many of us do).

Pamela

For 55 years I've been trained to be male while my mind was always screaming to be female.  Being male has always been acting for me but when does acting become so ingrained that it's a part of you? 

Most of the time I don't particularly identify with either gender.  I suspect it's derives from the fact that many cis would not accept me as part of their club.  I've never been a big fan of team sports so that's okay.  :) 

I suspect if I could have transitioned when I was young, I would have been much less confused about this.
Paige :)

Quote from: Paige on April 05, 2018, 09:31:14 AM
I suspect if I could have transitioned when I was young, I would have been much less confused about this.
Paige :)

That's what I think too.  Most of the time I just feel like a outsider who has landed on a foreign planet among total aliens.  I have wondered if I have some mild form of Aspergers or autism since some of that fits although not all.  I did read an article recently that stated that autism in some form and trans is often related in some undefined way.

Quote from: Deborah on April 05, 2018, 09:44:08 AM
That's what I think too.  Most of the time I just feel like a outsider who has landed on a foreign planet among total aliens.  I have wondered if I have some mild form of Aspergers or autism since some of that fits although not all.  I did read an article recently that stated that autism in some form and trans is often related in some undefined way.

I know for a fact that I have many of the traits of aspergers. Not enough to slow me down any. It was mentioned to me by our school psychologist that trans and autism have been demonstrated to show links in some cases. In my case I suspect there is. But hey, you can only be yourself

A great question and relative to my life it is important.  I wish that society as a whole would welcome people to fall on the spectrum where ever they want.  I definitely fall in the middle somewhere and drift back and forth and I'm okay with that.

Due to my being intersex I would have to say non binary even though leaning on the female side. Hugs
Mariah

Quote from: claritee on April 04, 2018, 09:40:50 PM
Hi.  I'm bran new here and still figuring things out.  Definitely in the non-binary category.  Always knew I was TV but only recently began to realize its more than that.  I think I've been too much of a coward to confront it. Gaining incredible peace looking at the world through a woman's eyes.

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Definitely binary.

Female, binary.

I identify as meat popsicle.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go finish off the tattered remains of my manicure by changing the oil and drive belt on my lawn mower.

Personally I think people worry too much about the whole binary/nonbinary label thing.  Just be you.

Since it does not cross my mind I'm otherwise: male, binary.

I am binary male.

Never think about being female more than that I'm not. I felt like I was a drag queen in makup and dresses.

I always was a guy and still am.


Tony

Quote from: Colleen_definitely on April 05, 2018, 11:59:17 AM
I identify as meat popsicle.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go finish off the tattered remains of my manicure by changing the oil and drive belt on my lawn mower.

Personally I think people worry too much about the whole binary/nonbinary label thing.  Just be you.

It's not about being worried about it. Someone said they thought most transgender people were binary. I disagree so I'm collecting data.  :)

Hugs, Devlyn

I reckon I'm about 95% binary [emoji23]

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I am enthusiastically non binary and love this thread so far.  On the one hand it has been terribly important to understand who, what and where I am.  On the other hand labels are so reductionist, insufficient and morphing constantly.  Just being true to ourselves feels best.  No act, artifice or stereotypes needed, there is drama enough.

I truly wish gender didn't matter so very much in our culture and that we had broader, inclusive definitions that respected the vast rainbow of perspectives.  We work on affecting this magic as we earn our fairy wings, wands up and fly. ;D

At the beginning I thought I was nonbinary.  As I've grown and my transition has progressed I realize that I am far more binary than I ever originally thought.  Turns out you can't guess well at who you are if you've repressed it your whole life.  I am just me and that me is very girly.

while i'm aware that my body can never be binary, my brain still expects it to be male.  i don't see myself as female; all those parts of me feel like they are wrong, and no amount of being treated and forced to live as a female has changed that.  so binary male fits just fine, as i don't wish to be viewed as anything other than that, nor do i feel like intersex/nonbinary is what i was supposed to be. 

Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi Bi....nary

I consider myself analog.   ;)

Quote from: Deborah on April 05, 2018, 09:44:08 AM
That's what I think too.  Most of the time I just feel like a outsider who has landed on a foreign planet among total aliens.  I have wondered if I have some mild form of Aspergers or autism since some of that fits although not all.  I did read an article recently that stated that autism in some form and trans is often related in some undefined way.

Me too. Autism appears in my family and my wife's and guess what? Two of my kids are certified autistic. Being on the outside looking in has its consequences.


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I don't know.

I must go non binary. I am both female and male and lived both. But always found living in my female ways was much more peaceful so I stayed. It really was hard work to be a guy. I m lazy not going to work that hard. ⚥⚢
Peace

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I see myself as non-binary. The universe is far too complex for me to be putting myself in categories with other people. I see myself as different to everyone I know.

Exclusively male or female

The more I ponder the more I tend to view gender not as a one-dimensional "spectrum" but rather as a multi-dimensional "space," where there are all sorts of variables you can score higher or lower on.

We who are gender-aware and spend a lot of our time thinking about gender know this, but for simplicity of communication with folks who only think of gender as one or the other (and to whom the notion of "in-between" is a big revelation), we collapse all these dimensions down into the so-called "gender spectrum."

That's why I think it's so easy for transpeople to admit to not falling 100% onto a binary category. It only takes a deviation in one of those many dimensions to knock you off the pure cis- end of the spectrum.

Nonbinary... genderfluid, I suppose, though I tend more towards female.  It all comes and goes like... walking through the colors cast by a stained glass window.

I'm confusing my new colleagues a bit, but they all seem to love my fashion sense.  ;D

Non-binary, genderfluid though and when I flip feminine for a long time I start to think I'm binary. Used to be the case when I flipped masculine I thought I was cis, but somehow that is not happening anymore thank goodness. I mean, I still flip more masculine sometimes, but have no desire to be a masculine man, I am fine with being seen as a feminine guy by people that don't know me.

I'm definitely binary. My BFF is thinking she (goes by that for now, anyway) might be gender fluid, but isn't sure. A buddy of mine (known for 18 years now) just recently started wondering if he might be non-binary. I recommended he come here and chat with some of the people here, but I should also offer to drive him up to one of the group meetings, there's a few non-binary people there.

Quote from: Sarah_P on April 06, 2018, 02:36:04 PM
I'm definitely binary. My BFF is thinking she (goes by that for now, anyway) might be gender fluid, but isn't sure. A buddy of mine (known for 18 years now) just recently started wondering if he might be non-binary. I recommended he come here and chat with some of the people here, but I should also offer to drive him up to one of the group meetings, there's a few non-binary people there.

There may be more non-binaries there than it seems, based on what we're seeing here.  :) 

Hugs, Devlyn

There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.   ;)

Quote from: AnneK on April 06, 2018, 05:25:22 PM
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.   ;)

Hahaha. :D

Quote from: AnneK on April 06, 2018, 05:25:22 PM
There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.   ;)

A very interesting thread which I just found and question, I guess I'm one of 10 in that quote, binary can be hard to understand sometimes, the survery vote is 50% both ways, I would think most trans individuals would identify as non binary.
I never thought much about being binary or non binary till I married my husband who is very much a binary male, resently at Easter we were going on an afternoon dinner date, I got delayed at the hair salon and was very late, when I apologize to hubby for being late, his reply was ''Pauline sweetie never apologize for being a woman, if a guy spented half a day in a beauty salon getting hair colored I'd kick his arse''  I thought it was a very binary reaction, so being a woman saved my arse LOL.
So I suppose to answer the question, probably since I married hubby 7 years ago I'm now a binary female.

Binary with sprinkles ;D

Peace and love and all that good stuff,

Sadie

I used to think I was nonbinary, but I've since come to discover that I was a man all along. And a very masculine one at that.

However, my definition of masculine sort of flies in the face of modern interpretations. I'm well versed in the art of introspection, I'm an extremely spiritual person and place as much importance on intuition as I do reason, I'm a true-blue leo (rising sign) and I like crafting fun, entertaining personas, I gesticulate a lot and enjoy putting my rubber face to use making all sorts of silly facial expressions. I guess I would call it a flamboyant sort of hypermasculinity, like a strong-man circus act. Utterly ridiculous, but undeniably manly. Would that make me a bit queer gender-wise? Maybe, maybe not. Don't care.

I believe I'm binary, but I can't really say for sure at this point. Therapy might convince me otherwise.