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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Jane J on May 16, 2018, 06:22:38 PM

Title: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Jane J on May 16, 2018, 06:22:38 PM
So, here is a question I've been after for a couple years and now that have actual account, good place to start! So, I can make cleavage that would make Anne Boylen jealous in a corset or pulling a waist cincher up real hight...but seriously. Has anyone else found any tricks to get wide-set boobs front and center? I'd offer pics, but might be risque...

Jane
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Lady Sarah on May 16, 2018, 09:05:33 PM
After you put enough fat on the girls, the right bra should push them together. The only problem for me, is that it is painful to apply that much pressure against them. Using "chicken cutlets" on the outsides of your girls, it will make it easier to push them together. Just be sure to wear a bra that holds it all in place.
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Maria77 on May 16, 2018, 09:34:22 PM
A good push up bra can work wonders. 
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Jane J on May 16, 2018, 10:19:37 PM
Quote from: Lady Sarah on May 16, 2018, 09:05:33 PM
... Using "chicken cutlets" on the outsides of your girls, it will make it easier to push them together. Just be sure to wear a bra that holds it all in place.

That's funny...I'm right at 2 years so I don't see a lot more fat coming, although, I'm ok with growth..for a gal in her late 30's my expectations were low...and have been exceeded a bit. I actually DO quite OFTEN put silicon push-up pads on the sides instead of underneath cause I have no need of lift, just centering...and keep shoulders in and that gets em within maybe 1/2"...but I had wondered if there WERE bras that could really do a fine job when you have a lot of fat, just a broad chest that keeps 'em apart......I have the best work from a racerback ...I WANT to find a racerback demi....but it seems the two just don't get made together...I have a sewing machine, but not tackeled more than a skirt and some alterations, not feeling like skills are up to bra construction...but that may be the only answer....I have drawers FULL of bras on this search, yet none can quite shove em together! LOL

LOL
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Donna on May 16, 2018, 10:27:15 PM
With me I prefer a plunge or a demi cup and the biggest thing is a wide band. I can get and hold great claevage all day long with how wide set I am. I also prefer a soft thin foam cup over a regular style cup. The girls will start to pull to the centerwith enough help from a properly fitted bra.
It is so key and so important to make sure the bra fits properly
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Jane J on May 17, 2018, 12:57:15 AM
Yeah, been hearing bra fitting, find a good bra, etc for a long time....maybe Fred Meyer, Target,etc just don't stock bras that give ample cleavage to so many other MTF's , idk...larger band size are ALWAYS too big, I can do a 34B, 36B, or a 34C depending on manufacturer and even sometimes in same BRAND...blue fits great at 36B then black is too tight same size and then RED wants 34B and white wants 34C! I think standards are almost nill in the industry and in case anyone doesn't knows this, 34C=36B=38A! Go figure THAT! When I first transitioned I measured and came up with 38A! Which didn't work and neither did 34B or 32C at that point...just got a stretchy 34A and it worked...later after some growth I pretty consistently stayed in the B cups, A too small and C too large and any band greater than 34 was no-go! Now, the one I have on right now is a 36B and fits like a glove! It's cozy and I fill cups like they were custom fit....so why this thread? Cause no matter how nicely it fits, I still have 3 fingers between boobs! Maybe that's just part of being born with a XY chest and nothing can do....but was hoping for a magic trick I hadn't heard of yet cause I got $500 in bras I never wear...almost look like I have a bra fetish I'm so full, I just don't even buy anymore, got one in every close size! LL A color to match every outfit so it a bit peeks out in my attempt to show a bit and eliminate any questioning glances left..which are really just in my head these days, probably try harder than need and use this as excuse to show as much boob as law permits! LOL Now I'm just rambling...but you get my quandary, right?!
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Donna on May 17, 2018, 07:20:28 AM
Don't know which measuring system you are using but there is a 6 st p process that give very good results. Yes bra fit can be frustrating and once you find a brand that works they are sort of consistent sizing wise.
Don't buy a lot of bras like I did and then change size. Lol. That gets costly
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: RobynTx on May 17, 2018, 10:22:28 AM
I went to Victoria's Secret a couple of months ago and had a fitting.  They were great with me. So I bought a bra and several panties.  My spouse got her some PJs.
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Jane J on May 17, 2018, 12:11:23 PM
Yeah, I've really wanted to bite the bullet and just go to Vickkies for a good fitting...I've known this for awhile but still throw $20 into a drawer to never return over and over and over cause...
Quote from: Donna on May 17, 2018, 07:20:28 AM

Don't buy a lot of bras like I did and then change size. Lol. That gets costly

...TOO LATE! I look like I have a bra fetish it's so bad! Hanging on hooks, filling up drawers...If ONLY saved money from 3 of those Fred Meyer/Target/WalMart ones and just gone to Vikkies for a bombshell....I might not have made this post! LOL
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: ainsley on May 17, 2018, 12:45:32 PM
The only time my girls talk to each other is when I lay on my side. 
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: I Am Jess on May 17, 2018, 06:39:54 PM
Victoria's Secret front closure bombshell!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4754/26438704318_7e2838bf3d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GhigFC)
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: TonyaW on May 17, 2018, 07:20:32 PM
Quote from: I Am Jess on May 17, 2018, 06:39:54 PM
Victoria's Secret front closure bombshell!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4754/26438704318_7e2838bf3d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GhigFC)
They don't make that in a 42A though I bet. 

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Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Donna on May 17, 2018, 07:22:21 PM
My goodness, you look amazing. Beautiful cleavage as well if I do say so. 
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Jane J on May 17, 2018, 07:27:21 PM
Quote from: I Am Jess on May 17, 2018, 06:39:54 PM
Victoria's Secret front closure bombshell!


Yes! and...Wow...You are EXACTLY where I am "trying" to be! You have such an very "hip, easy going, woman of style" vibe and maybe my style is a bit more knit-bohemian, still...I don't know, of course. But, you give of such a centered, confident, authentic aura I hope I can get my look on your caliber in next few years....My SRS date is F__ing May 7, 2020! The line has gotten just downright demoralizing since it has become so much safer than before to come out of hiding...more of us than even I ever realized! I'm hoping a few change their mind and they move it back to 2019...but hey, for one, that's the least of my concerns and two, one step at a time, am I right!? OK, just a kudos to you! That's all!

Yours,

Jane

Here's what I'm dealing with BTW..most revealing top...
(https://i.imgur.com/n8WiavH.jpg?1)

See that gap? I have to hunch my shoulders a bit to even get THAT!  >:( :P
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Donna on May 17, 2018, 07:52:58 PM
Wow so frustrating a wait that long. I am 3 months since my request to move to the next level doc. He holds the keys to move forward, I am one month into the task of meeting the guidelines to get the letter to see him. That will be another month and then at last check it's 7 months to get an appointment. That will be almost a year just to tell him what I would like to do. Lol.
Anyways it will happen when it happens.
My daughter sees him so maybe I can get in sooner. He mentioned to her last week we would be the first trans parent /child in his practice.
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Donna on May 17, 2018, 07:55:32 PM
Jane that still looks very impressive
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Jane J on May 17, 2018, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: Donna on May 17, 2018, 07:55:32 PM
Jane that still looks very impressive

Yeah, a lot of people are like,"Oh you pass great!" or "You have as decent a result of breast growth as any cisfemale" and lots of other nice things...It's VERY hard for me to hear and even HARDER for me to see...It's part of dysphoria I'm sure is familiar to many here, that everytime I look in mirror I'm INSTANTLY drawn to every part I hate and that's all I can see...VERY occasionally I see a glance of a pic or reflection when I'm out and think,
"Wow, I only see a gal there!"
   But they are tiny moments before the crushing psych issues of dysphoria come to ruin the moment or make me keep looking at different angles until I can say,
"SEE! There's a tell! and look from the side GAG!
...and look at these hands!
These awful shoulders! ..
God my f'n FOREHEAD or CHIN!
$3,500 for at least my god awful CHIN to get fixed, I can't live another DAY with this CHIN! Arrgh"!
   
        etc, etc etc Why can't I get a rich boyfriend who think I'm a beautiful person that just needs some edges rounded off and will take me in his arms and make Chin/Jawline Reduction, Forehead Contour and Rhinoplasty...basically FFS..happen! He'll get me a beautiful vagina and make it gorgeous with a Labiaplaty so I can have him in me as I was always meant to and live happily ever after! Ahhhh....Then I wake up. I am almost 40 and not getting any younger,by time I HEAL from SRS I'll be 42 and only maybe a decade, 2 tops to enjoy sex with a guy without feeling like I'm making him "compromise" with my bum....

I just had delete a paragraph cause I started a "issue dump" and lost my point....Which is...Acceptance. I try to accept that I , even now, have a life I always wanted but was too afraid to have for fear of family, society, employment, and other repercussions...If I had a day in my life now after waking from a day in my life 10yrs ago, I'd be SO HAPPY! I try to remember that...But DAMN it's hard to shake the negativity of self-image issues!!!

Jane
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Jane J on May 17, 2018, 11:09:27 PM
Quote from: Donna on May 17, 2018, 07:52:58 PM
... He mentioned to her last week we would be the first trans parent /child in his practice.

By the way I'm invisible too! Totally TRANSPARENT! LOL Here is us, year old pic but still...it's handy..
(https://i.imgur.com/6CfJtMR.jpg) It's a very unique and special thing...I have quite a story how I planned and accomplished his birth...he was VERY wanted and intentional! Took time, but I wanted him while still could...Anyway, you ever want talk about our issues with invisibility, be glad to! Like, how he came to know me as "Mommy" and how amazing it is how little he questions...Kids are amazing...Like,"Yeah, my Mom used to be a boy, now she's my mommy...What?" Totally oblivious there is anything special about this...I've been "Mommy" since 2years...but he saw me as female in presentation from most of his life anyway since that WAS my home life for 10years before I decided I had rather do this now than 20 more years, cause it was only getting WORSE to live 2 lives...I honestly don't know how I did so long...It's like I really wasn't born and began to live until I unified my identities...long story! I'll share sometime if you like...

Jane
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Donna on May 17, 2018, 11:12:40 PM
Well said. You hit lots of common points for lots of us. We are all doing it our way what ever that is and all we cn hope for is to do it with grace and respect. I have plenty of sour points that i will get to one day. For now i look in the mirror and don't recognize the person looking back as being him. That is the best i can ask at my point in life. Happy and healthy and moving forward.
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Harley Quinn on May 18, 2018, 09:38:00 AM
They make a pushup bra that is "up and in".  That's your best bet to "close the gap" so to speak.  The best ones I found for that are the cheaper ones.  I found that the Maidenform "up and in" pushup bras are exceptional at making cleavage.  Not an extremely comfortable bra to wear (its kinda scratchy), but it does work.
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Allison S on May 18, 2018, 03:06:43 PM
Jane, I relate a lot with your insecurities and what would help. I cope in my own ways. More recently I just think if I do everything I want on my own and I don't have to depend on anyone then that'll be a miracle. I do need one of those. But I'm much earlier in my transition and it's easier for me to focus on other things like effects of hrt and growing my hair.

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Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Michelle_P on May 18, 2018, 04:33:17 PM
I'm wearing a Warner No Side Effects Wirefree with the light foam lined cups.  It's basically a full coverage t-shirt bra, quite comfortable and it does give me a little shape from my 34-Barelys that 2 years of HRT delivered.

That said, wow, are things ever wide spaced.  Cleavage just is not happening.

My therapist mentioned that in a breast augmentation adjustments can be made to improve position as well as just size.  Is this something anyone has experienced?

I don't want to do the 'usual' stuff I see with huge breasts.  I'm comfortable with the smaller size, but would be willing to put up with a slightly larger size if I had better placement.


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Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Maybebaby56 on May 18, 2018, 05:25:57 PM
Hi Michelle,

You're probably better served by speaking to a plastic surgeon about that. I had under-muscle implants, and the separation between the breasts is dictated by where you chest muscles attach to your sternum. There's not much you can do about that, I would think. There might be some leeway for sub-glandular implants, but again, I'm not one who would have definitive answers.

I went with larger implants, and I can get some decent cleavage with a good bra.

~Terri 
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Donna on May 18, 2018, 11:37:26 PM
Lol. My wife was the opposite she saw me stoop and swoop and asked how I learned to do that. We had a great laugh about it
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: TonyaW on May 19, 2018, 09:49:22 AM
Quote from: AshleyP on May 18, 2018, 10:42:47 PM
I totally agree. I bought one of Walmart's house brand push up bra, Secret Treasures, I think, for less than $4. It works great on the very rare occasions that I want to present some cleavage.

Also, I'm supposing you know the "scoop and swoop" technique. :)  I didn't until my wife told me how to do it. LOL, she said, "You're doing it all wrong!"

All the best,
AshleyP
My issue is when you get to the band size I need (40 at least) they don't make them in cup size less than C.  I don't really understand the thinking there.

If I had C or D or DD I don't think I'd be in as much need for the push up.

Had to Google "scoop and swoop". I've been doing that as long as I've worn a bra, didn't now there was an official name for it.

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Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: Cheaney on May 19, 2018, 10:38:41 AM
Just wanted to say I think you look great!

And that I'm interested in this topic because I think I'm going to have the same problem.


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Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: epvanbeveren on May 20, 2018, 12:30:15 AM
When I want my girls to spent time closer together I use the adhesive strapless bra I buy at Target, not comfy, but it bring the girls together...

https://www.target.com/p/fashion-forms-women-s-superlite-adhesive-strapless-backless-bra/-/A-13793203?preselect=47915229#lnk=sametab
Title: Re: Anyone find any tricks to the "wide set" problem AKA getting cleavage?
Post by: noleen111 on May 20, 2018, 05:03:13 AM
Quote from: epvanbeveren on May 20, 2018, 12:30:15 AM
When I want my girls to spent time closer together I use the adhesive strapless bra I buy at Target, not comfy, but it bring the girls together...


A friend of mine told me, there is a golden rule for a women about looking good.. The more uncomfortable it is, the better you look in it, especially when it comes to bras. I love wearing strapless dresses, and I have worn some uncomfortable strapless bra's, but they make my girls look so good..

Sometimes you want to look good, you do pay the price for it