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Title: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: blackcat on June 05, 2018, 07:15:51 PM
Any advice on how to not look like you're drowning in a small?

After much research, I found a nifty way to roll the sleeves that makes me look like something other than a five year old in a grown man's shirt.

The shirts I have are longish, so I can't keep them tucked properly. I think the fabric (shiny, crepey magnificence) is making it difficult to fold pleats at the side? So I ordered some shirt stays?? LMAO Has anyone done this??

Finally, if I tuck in my shirt, it accentuates all of my curves in the worst way possible.  :-\

What are your thoughts about dress shirts?

I HATE vests, btw. I don't want to just throw a vest on top because I'm not a vest person. I will have to wear nice shirts at work, though.
Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on June 05, 2018, 07:26:49 PM
Being slender but tall I had issues finding dress shirts for work.  Lands End has fitted shirts that are reasonable in price, so does Penney's.  You can always take them in at the sides to get a slender look.  No darts in the back!

The silky satiny shirts look nice but they are a pain to wear.  Sleeves don't stay rolled either.  I always wore cotton shirts.  They wrinkled easily but that's what most staff wore so it was fine.  They stay tucked in.  They will be a little blousy at the back.  This is normal unless they are nicely fitted.
Judi
Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: LizK on June 05, 2018, 08:49:57 PM
Depends if you are trying to look formal or casual. If it's casual then don't tuck it in. Stay away from clingy materials...combined with shorts or jeans then it should cover your curves. If it's more formal think about wearing a long Tie or bow tie as this will draw the eye away.

Sorry but I never used shirt stays so don't know how they will look

Take care
Liz


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Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: Kylo on June 05, 2018, 11:50:17 PM
After 12 years of state school having to wear shirts, ties, and formal jackets every day, I'm fairly comfortable with dress shirts. It's pretty hard to look bad in a dress shirt I thought, but it can depend to some extent what suits you. Rolling sleeves has always been a pain so I usually don't bother, lol.

Suit type jackets/blazers can help with your outline, I guess.
Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: Ryuichi13 on June 08, 2018, 04:13:38 PM
Quote from: ElizabethK on June 05, 2018, 08:49:57 PM
Depends if you are trying to look formal or casual. If it's casual then don't tuck it in. Stay away from clingy materials...combined with shorts or jeans then it should cover your curves. If it's more formal think about wearing a long Tie or bow tie as this will draw the eye away.

Sorry but I never used shirt stays so don't know how they will look

Take care
Liz

I like the idea of wearing a tie.  But also, exercise will help with the curves issue, especially if you're on T. 

Side note: I noticed that, since middle-age spread has hit, my curves are all but gone. :D

Ryuichi
Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: blackcat on June 09, 2018, 05:08:17 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! I will keep everything in mind as I expand my shirt collection.

I tried shirt stays and they worked like a charm on the satiny shirts. It literally made the difference between rumpled little kid and man.
Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: SeptagonScars on June 15, 2018, 05:10:12 PM
Well I'm not quite that small/thin myself, so a regular fit men's shirt size S or a slimfit size M fit well on me. But as for tucking it in accenturating your curves: wear pants that sit on your hips, and make sure your pants are tight around the butt and that they're darker than the shirt. That's gonna help give the illusion you have a wider waist, narrower hips and smaller butt.

Another tip: many don't like the "muffin top" look to tucked in shirts (when its puffy around the waist, just above pants) but if you're fine with that look it does greatly help with hiding curves. But just make sure the "puffiness" goes over the narrow part of waist. You don't want to add width to what's already too wide.

If the shirts are very long, then I strongly suggest tucking them in or it will look like you're wearing a dress! Shorter shirts (around hip-length) can be worn untucked and look fine.

To help shirt stay tucked in better and they're long, before pulling up my pants I tuck the shirt "flaps" into my underwear into the leg holes from underneath. That helps keeping the front part of my shirts not get pulled up during the day. I've not used shirt stays though.

As for material, I prefer cotton all the time. Some of my shirts are cotton/polyester blends and that works for me too.

If you have money you could get the shirts tailored to fit you better. If not, maybe you could check out the boy's section at stores to find smaller shirts. If you'd shop online, many Asian brands have smaller sized men's clothing. I don't know any specific ones though, so you'd have to google it. But then a size S fits more like maybe an XXS in comparison, at least I noticed that with Asian brand underwear.
Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: Maid Marion on July 24, 2018, 09:22:02 PM
They do make Men's XS shirts, but I've never seen one worth buying one in a brick and mortar store.

If you can afford it, Peter Manning makes nice shirts for short guys.  Pants too. 

There is a big difference between Young Men's and Boys shirts.  YM shirts are for males in their growing years, so the arms are typically quite long.  May not matter if you are going to roll back the sleeves as sometimes suggested nowadays.

I have a large collection of women's size small shirts that look like guy shirts.  Inexpensively obtained via ebay and thrift stores.  Perhaps the best choice if you are on a tight budget.  May fit the best if you are transitioning.  They certainly fit me best.

I've bought some Asian shirts via Amazon.  The sleeves are long so I have to fold them back.

I shop for shirts with a tape measure. Usually I just measure across the chest below the armpits.
Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: Ryuichi13 on July 24, 2018, 11:28:09 PM
I also found this, a online store that specializes in clothes for shorter men.  I'm 5'7"&1/3" /171cm tall, and if I read the site correctly, their stuff is for men 5'8"/172cm and under.

https://ashanderie.com/ (https://ashanderie.com/)

Maybe these will help you.

Good luck!

Ryuichi

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Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: SallyChoasAura on July 25, 2018, 06:45:58 AM
Hmmm... have you tried wearing extra smalls?? Maybe you could wear a hoodie or a nice sweater that fits but not to feminine? I'm only 15 so I normally just wear whatever boy shirt I like and that fits. Sorry if this advice is no good. 😅
Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: David1987 on July 25, 2018, 10:26:10 AM
My shirt size is "extra small F", any typical shirt from the mens department is huge on me. However, I've been finding lately lots of shirts for women that don't look female at all. Tommy Hilfiger's classic shirt (I think thats how it's called) is allright. Also, a lot of brands are selling "boyfriend shirts" which look like regular men shirts that fit smaller people. I haven't got one of those myself yet but from the websites they don't look that bad. Before that I tried making my own shorts from scratch, it's actually easier than it looks.
Title: Re: Dress shirt tips?
Post by: Maid Marion on July 25, 2018, 03:46:46 PM
Yes, nothing in the Men's department fits me.  In fact, when I went to Brooks Brothers to buy a suit, they said they had nothing to sell me.  I later figured out that that was correct.  While they sold boy's suits, the proportions are way off.  A women's suit would have fit nicely, but the buttons are on the wrong side.