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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: Madeline on July 04, 2018, 04:25:04 PM

Title: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: Madeline on July 04, 2018, 04:25:04 PM
I am a boy who wants to transition to a girl and one desire I feel strongly is that I wish I could be pregnant but even if/when I transition I still have the internal organs of a man and will never be pregnant and that makes me feel really sad. Do any of you feel this way?
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Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: MaryT on July 04, 2018, 04:47:38 PM
It would have been wonderful to be a woman in every way and give birth to my own children.  I know that many trans women feel the same way.  I am old but you are young.  Cis women can now have womb transplants and I suspect that the only barrier to trans women having them now is political.  The surgery may be very invasive though but then, I suppose, so is pregnancy itself.  Good luck.
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: ScarletRed on July 04, 2018, 04:56:33 PM
Yes even as a post-op woman I still struggle with that it's getting easier though. Seeing a pregnant woman used to make me so depressed but I'm learning to just be happy for them. I don't think transitioning ever really stops we are always growing.


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Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: Lynne on July 04, 2018, 06:00:37 PM
A lot of my colleagues got pregnant or gave birth recently and seeing them always reminds me that I'll probably never be able to do that and that hurts.
At the moment I do not feel that I'm fit to be a mother and I'm already older than my mother was when she gave birth to me but if science would make it possible in a few years for me to have a child similar to any cis-woman I would jump at the chance probably.
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: Doreen on July 04, 2018, 06:19:07 PM
This may sound hateful or delusional or whatever.. but... never give up hope!  It may be possible. Did you know at clinicaltrials.gov you can sign up for uterus organ donation IF YOU HAVE mrkh?   Just a matter of time until they start doing that with trans folk too!

That being said, it still might be entirely possible for me :)  Seeing a doc before long to see if that's possible.  Then again, I was born .. anatomical differences.

Anyways, just me saying, don't give up! Never know.   
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: MissyMay2.0 on July 04, 2018, 07:25:03 PM
I don't want to be pregnant, or menstruate.
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: Doreen on July 04, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
Quote from: MissyMay2.0 on July 04, 2018, 07:25:03 PM
I don't want to be pregnant, or menstruate.

Some aspects of that would be generally unwanted by most cis females too. It isn't unwise to think in this fashion either.  To each their own, and either way is only different not wrong :)
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: Amaki on July 04, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
I do want to chime in, I read in only one report so far (actually on this forum) they have done what is called a uterus transplant. With that said they do think it could be possible to transplant it into a trans women with little issue they see.

Now I see a few issues but it might be possible to get pregnant, I will be keeping my eyes on this issue and will volunteer when they are ready for that.

But even if they approve and make it possible society will want to fight it so it might be awhile before we get any real answer.

As of now it might be just science fiction but from every dream comes a moment of truth.

And yes this is one of my biggest dreads also but I always like to hope

Quote from: MaryT on July 04, 2018, 04:47:38 PM
It would have been wonderful to be a woman in every way and give birth to my own children.  I know that many trans women feel the same way.  I am old but you are young.  Cis women can now have womb transplants and I suspect that the only barrier to trans women having them now is political.  The surgery may be very invasive though but then, I suppose, so is pregnancy itself.  Good luck.

sorry glanced over and didnt see you said the same thing, yes its only a matter of time hopefully.
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: Jessica on July 04, 2018, 10:16:13 PM
Too late for me at 62, but I reckon it could be science fact instead of fiction in the near future.
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: grrl1nside on July 04, 2018, 10:38:48 PM
I definitely had mixed emotions when my partner gave birth to our children. I was happy even ecstatic about having healthy babies but it also made me feel disconnected to my own body.

I wanted to be able to give birth and felt a desire to breast feed but needed to allow my partner the space to fully be mom. I could never feel comfortable as dad so I tried to be called 'popsicle.' Well, that didn't work. Lol, babies can't say words like! Besides it is a bit of an embarrassing title, but I was desperate to avoid being thrust into being identified as 'father.' FYI, this probably qualifies as a great hint that one might just be trans...  ;)

With my second child and the thumbs up from my first child the family decided on Coey. 'Co' being short for co-parent and is comfortable for me and supports my partners place as mom.

This year we shared Mother's Day and that was lovely. By the way, I still get broody if I hear a newborn cry...
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: Doreen on July 05, 2018, 02:03:58 AM
Quote from: Amaki on July 04, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
I do want to chime in, I read in only one report so far (actually on this forum) they have done what is called a uterus transplant. With that said they do think it could be possible to transplant it into a trans women with little issue they see.

Now I see a few issues but it might be possible to get pregnant, I will be keeping my eyes on this issue and will volunteer when they are ready for that.

But even if they approve and make it possible society will want to fight it so it might be awhile before we get any real answer.

As of now it might be just science fiction but from every dream comes a moment of truth.

And yes this is one of my biggest dreads also but I always like to hope

sorry glanced over and didnt see you said the same thing, yes its only a matter of time hopefully.

I have 46XY with no apparently detectable issue in my chromosomes.  Yet I have a uterus. Granted it has issues & needs to be connected to the vaginal canal.  Yet to say its not possible is to deny people like me & those with Swyers syndrome exist. (Even some with PAIS, mixed gonads, and other syndromes) 46 XY girls with fully connected uterus, vaginal canals, the whole works but almost always streak ovaries/gonads.  Plus there is chimerism.  These gals actually have periods.  I do too, but they're ... not good. They're inside.

Its possible.  We exist.  In fact some have actually had children (through artificial insemination. )  SOME even natural child birth!!!!!

Nature is amazingly bizarre, diverse, and full of wonder.  Science even more so!  I am proof magic exists.  Or at least incredibly biological anomalies capable of wondrous things.

Not 'rubbing it in'.. not trying to make others feel less. YOU ARE NOT.  Just reinforcing the opinion that... lots of things are possible :) Never discount the seemingly impossible!

If I need to I can link .gov research articles reading it but I don't want to bore folks, and its nothing a simple google search won't turn up if you wish to educate yourself.  Please, if you do not believe, ... research. 

I just pray to the gods I have no cancer or irreparable damage to the years these issues were ignored by frankly ... uninterested doctors. People that never looked at images, ignored the symptoms, and hyperfocused only on locating elusive streak gonads.  That would probably send me into a spiral of horrible depression. :(
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: annaleaver on July 05, 2018, 03:08:02 AM
Same, I think the ability to get pregnant is a really important step towards transgender acceptance as a whole. I wrote a bit about this below, On transgender women and periods

https://medium.com/@anastasialea84/on-transgender-women-and-periods-d15b914fc9fd (https://medium.com/@anastasialea84/on-transgender-women-and-periods-d15b914fc9fd)
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: Briah on July 05, 2018, 10:00:31 AM
I too am in that group that would like to get pregnant.  I also am too old to consider it without some good science fiction helping out though.
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: MissyMay2.0 on July 05, 2018, 10:15:16 AM
Quote from: anastasialea on July 05, 2018, 03:08:02 AM
Same, I think the ability to get pregnant is a really important step towards transgender acceptance as a whole. I wrote a bit about this below, On transgender women and periods

https://medium.com/@anastasialea84/on-transgender-women-and-periods-d15b914fc9fd (https://medium.com/@anastasialea84/on-transgender-women-and-periods-d15b914fc9fd)
I don't understand how this would help with acceptance. Anyway, I don't think this will happen, because the scientific community and general public would not consider it a medical necessity; And would consider it an unnecessary risk, because a lot of trans women who volunteer for these initial experiments would die, along with fetuses who were not given a choice. 

Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: kathb31 on July 05, 2018, 10:17:10 AM
I remember when I was in 5th or 6th grade and I realized I could not have babies. l felt so sad. It seemed a little ridiculous though.. of course you can't have babies. But Now, who knows, it may become possible.
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: krobinson103 on July 05, 2018, 11:08:30 AM
Even if it were possible, and if I was younger I still wouldn't want that. I like not having periods and already have two kids. I also saw my wife go through two pregnancies and all I can say is... no thanks!
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: annaleaver on July 05, 2018, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: MissyMay2.0 on July 05, 2018, 10:15:16 AM
I don't understand how this would help with acceptance. Anyway, I don't think this will happen, because the scientific community and general public would not consider it a medical necessity; And would consider it an unnecessary risk, because a lot of trans women who volunteer for these initial experiments would die, along with fetuses who were not given a choice.

In short, I think the fact that trans women can't get pregnant enforces the idea that trans women aren't real women among other demographics, which leads to discrimination.  From my experience, there is a degree of discrimination which is unique to transgender women from that idea.
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: MissyMay2.0 on July 05, 2018, 12:15:55 PM
Quote from: anastasialea on July 05, 2018, 11:14:46 AM
In short, I think the fact that trans women can't get pregnant enforces the idea that trans women aren't real women among other demographics, which leads to discrimination.  From my experience, there is a degree of discrimination which is unique to transgender women from that idea.
There are a lot of cis women who can't have children, or menstruate; and they are still cis women. And if we could get pregnant, and menstruate, we would still be trans women; therefore, I don't believe it would eliminate discrimination.

If you look at the big picture of transplanting uteruses into trans women; there are too many negative consequences, and other considerations.  For example, the number of animals who would suffer and die, before the transplants would even be considered for human clinical trials; the number of human deaths during the initial experimental stages; funding, it costs a few billion dollars to have a new drug developed and approved by the FDA, so how much would it cost to fund the research and development for uterine transplants into trans women, and where would this money come from, especially since most people would consider finding a cure for cancer, and other diseases a priority. 

If you lament over what you cannot have, then you are just setting yourself up for misery. Why choose to be sad, when you can focus on positive things about yourself, and be happy😊
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: Devlyn on July 05, 2018, 12:27:20 PM
Quote from: MissyMay2.0 on July 05, 2018, 12:15:55 PM
There are a lot of cis women who can't have children, or menstruate; and they are still cis women. And if we could get pregnant, and menstruate, we would still be trans women; therefore, I don't believe it would eliminate discrimination.

If you look at the big picture of transplanting uteruses into trans women; there are too many negative consequences, and other considerations.  For example, the number of animals who would suffer and die, before the transplants would even be considered for human clinical trials; the number of human deaths during the initial experimental stages; funding, it costs a few billion dollars to have a new drug developed and approved by the FDA, so how much would it cost to fund the research and development for uterine transplants into trans women, and where would this money come from, especially since most people would consider finding a cure for cancer, and other diseases a priority. 

If you lament over what you cannot have, then you are just setting yourself up for misery. Why choose to be sad, when you can focus on positive things about yourself, and be happy😊

I'm in absolute agreement. Counting the things you don't have is a recipe for unhappiness.
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: Lucca on July 05, 2018, 12:44:04 PM
Surely women, fetuses, and animals have all died for the purpose of allowing sterile cis-women to have children, though, right? Not to mention the monetary cost? That stuff is associated with any medical procedure of treatment.

Most people don't think twice about providing female-related care to cis-women, no matter the cost.

EDIT: For that matter, wouldn't HRT and SRS have to have been tested on animals, too?
Title: Re: I wish I could get pregnant
Post by: MissyMay2.0 on July 05, 2018, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: Lucca on July 05, 2018, 12:44:04 PM
Surely women, fetuses, and animals have all died for the purpose of allowing sterile cis-women to have children, though, right? Not to mention the monetary cost? That stuff is associated with any medical procedure of treatment.

Most people don't think twice about providing female-related care to cis-women, no matter the cost.
Unfortunately, there are medically necessary circumstances (e.g., treating infertility among cis women and cis men; curing diseases, etc.) that necessitate drastic measures to ensure the survivability and propagation of the human race, hence, If there is a future disease that causes mass infertility, we have developed ways to ensure our survival.

Trans women are able to experience Motherhood via natural conception, surrogacy, or adoption if we choose to.