This is just something that I've been thinking about because, except for the fatness (ugh...my fat ass needs to get on a treadmill), my body doesn't bother me too much, but it seems like a lot of people do not like their bodies...hmmm.
I was thinking that one reason I don't feel the need to bind (i'm female bodied), is that my grandmother, who is the epitome of 'woman' for me, had a double mastectomy before I was born, so for me, the person I knew as the ideal woman never had breasts. (*ehem* and mine are kind of small anyway...)
I was just wondering what everyone else thought about this. I'm on a mission to have a complete understanding of what it is to be androgyne, not just what it is for ME to be androgyne. :)
Good mission.
There seems to be a bit of a split in the androgynes between body-modification types and not.
Now I'm not really bothered about changing my body, but I don't consider my body gendered. Not even my penis really, it's just mine, and I am not gendered.
Most of my (female) body doesn't bother me. My breasts kind of do, but not as much as they used to. They are only small anyway, I don't like them but I can tolerate them.
However, at a cetain *ahem* time of the month I am very aware of how much I hate having a uterus. If removing it wasn't such a major operation I would definitely get rid of that part.
QuoteDoes your body bother you?
i'm not body dysmorphic anymore but before grs, i used to be.
I am also female bodied. I don't like my breasts at all but I also don't really feel a need to bind either. Like Steve, I guess I just tolerate them. They are pretty small and until I can have them removed I don't feel like I need to strap them down. Yes, and of course that time of the month makes me want to rip my insides out. :laugh:
I'm female bodied. I don't mind my breasts. They're not big and I don't bind them or plan on getting rid of them. What I do not like is my body composition. I wish I just had more muscle and less fat on my body. Also, getting rid of my squishy belly would make me happy. The softness of my body just gives me a too feminine look that I don't like. Luckily, I found an exercise buddy back at school, so I'll be working on that. :)
ah, yes...that time of the month...well, i can tolerate it. actually, I very much want to have kids so I've learned to appreciate the ol' uterus...well, as much as one can when cramping and and wanting to rip people's heads off. :icon_userfriendly:
i'd personally like to get rid of the squishy all over...*sigh* working out sucks. :icon_censored:
Yes, it does bother me, but not enough that I'd do anything too drastic.
I'm pretty much convinced that I'd be more comfortable in a female body, and I regularly have phantom feelings in places no male is supposed to have. In this sense, the descriptions of some transsexuals sound very familiar.
On the other hand, I don't have an overwhelming urge, or even serious desire, to go the HRT / SRS route. Also, I like being able to have a heterosexual relationship with my wife, and having my body match my brain is less important than having my body match hers.
The last part, of course, is something many transsexuals cannot understand at all, which is why I'm here.
Nfr
Hi Jaimey!
"My" body bothers me tremendously like I can't even explain... I bind all the time with painful objects and I am actually sick of it...I just want to get rid of everything that is female. No matter how much I worked out I wasn't able to achieve decent looking muscles...Damn!
as MTF who is overweight and hardly feminine looking...YES, MY BODY DISGUSTS ME. I have just gotten a gym membership, now if I can just stop being all depressed half the time about my body & get motivated i might actually get to the gym!!!
well...hey i've already lost over 200lbs on my own so...
thanx for read'n
Well...my body is just my body, that's how i see it, i don't really have the biggest problems about it, and i think it's funny to hear women complain about how small their breast are, and how they want a breast enlargement, and i'm just looking at my small tennis balls, and is satisfied.
Is it just me or did all the female bodied, who replied, have small breast, is there a tendency between androgyne women? XD
Quote from: funnygrl on December 30, 2007, 07:35:27 PM
as MTF who is overweight and hardly feminine looking...YES, MY BODY DISGUSTS ME. I have just gotten a gym membership, now if I can just stop being all depressed half the time about my body & get motivated i might actually get to the gym!!!
well...hey i've already lost over 200lbs on my own so...
thanx for read'n
Congrats on losing that weight. That's not easy to do.
Quote from: ImKim on December 30, 2007, 07:54:49 PM
Is it just me or did all the female bodied, who replied, have small breast, is there a tendency between androgyne women? XD
Yeah, I noticed that too, lol.
Hmm.... well, I posted that fat video earlier so you know I have issues with THAT. When I look in the mirror, my belly just sags there. If you just saw that, you'd think I was pregnant. I guess... My thighs have celluite in them, but not much. My arms are a bit scrawny, especially the left one near the elbow... My shoulders are big. I have a thick bullish neck, and my face? Tolerable. The one good thing about my big belly is that obscures my view of... well... down there. I've got moobs (man-boobs). The one thing I especially cannot tolerate is the hair but thankfully very little of it grows on my chest or stomach. And my back isn't hairy either. But it grows on my toes. :(
Quote from: ImKim on December 30, 2007, 07:54:49 PM
Is it just me or did all the female bodied, who replied, have small breast, is there a tendency between androgyne women? XD
hmmm...possibly a biological effect?
Quote from: funnygrl on December 30, 2007, 07:35:27 PM
well...hey i've already lost over 200lbs on my own so...
WAY TO GO!!!
I've decided that I will NOT make a resolution to lose weight...instead, I'm just going to buy a bicycle. I'm moving to an area of town where using a bike for transportation is actually realistic...I just have to buy one first...XD
Yes. My body bothers me. In fact, I've had to take a restraining order out on it. Now my body can't come within 50 yards of me. Someday, we may reconcile, but I believe it has a lot of growing up to do.
For serious, this captures me except for the crossed out part because I don't care about sex anymore. I think I just did it because I was supposed to. -
Quote from: Seshatneferw on December 30, 2007, 05:07:44 PM
Yes, it does bother me, but not enough that I'd do anything too drastic.
I'm pretty much convinced that I'd be more comfortable in a female body, and I regularly have phantom feelings in places no male is supposed to have. In this sense, the descriptions of some transsexuals sound very familiar.
On the other hand, I don't have an overwhelming urge, or even serious desire, to go the HRT / SRS route. Also, I like being able to have a heterosexual relationship with my wife, and having my body match my brain is less important than having my body match hers.
The last part, of course, is something many transsexuals cannot understand at all, which is why I'm here.
Nfr
Pica comes close to describing me for me too, except that I am too tall and am entirely bald. Those things prevent me from being happy with my body. Yet another reason to keep it 50 yards away from me.
Rebis
Yes, my male body bothers me sometimes, there have been times where the dysphoria has been intense. I think I'd be happier having a female body, however it seems like a lot of hassle being tethered to medical procedures for the rest of my life to be neither gender as I am now. So I just deal with the body I have. Losing my hair up on top bothers me too.
y2g
Shhh. Don't say anything. I think my body is following me.
Someone call a cop.
will it come quietly?
I believe so. The mouth is noiseless without the brain. It's slippery work taking it away, though, because of all the drool.
Quote from: Rebis on January 01, 2008, 11:03:42 PM
The mouth is noiseless without the brain.
It is clear you have never been to the aftermath of a game of football.
I assure you Sir, or Madam, that I would never undertake such an endeavor.
and, what you call football there, we call 'bowling' here.
Quote from: Rebis on January 01, 2008, 10:45:05 PM
Shhh. Don't say anything. I think my body is following me.
Someone call a cop.
Are you absolutely sure you're not following it? >:D
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 01, 2008, 11:06:04 PM
It is clear you have never been to the aftermath of a game of football.
Hmmmm, let me check my UK-US English dictionary for clarification....
UK Football = US soccer
US Football = UK bunch of guys on a field brutally bashing into each other, occasionally throwing a ball
EU Football = US bunch of guys on a field brutally bashing into each other, occasionally kicking a ball
UK cricket = US, why are they standing around on that field, occasionally whacking a ball with a racket? No US equivalent
US golf = UK why are they standing around on that field, occasionally whacking a ball with a club?
>:D :P
y2g
except, we think that your football is wussy, it's just our rugby but you wear armour and we don't.....and golf is a scottish game.
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 02, 2008, 07:38:03 AM
except, we think that your football is wussy, it's just our rugby but you wear armour and we don't.....and golf is a scottish game.
LOL
<y2g doesn't follow sports, doesn't watch them on TV, for that matter has no idea who's playing what high profile event that everyone else follows, nor does zie even cares who wins> ;D
oh yeah, and baseball....that's a game called rounders only played by schoolgirls and church picnics.
I think I just saw my body trying to gain access to my automobile. :-\
there are ninjas in my aparment...and i've been drinking...
simple - unleash the pirates.
ninjas vs. pirates, eh? wow...i've played that game in laser tag.
ninjas would always win the fight though, but pirates are cooler.
Pirates are filthy. I'd rather be killed by someone who has good hygiene like the ninjas.
Quote from: Rebis on January 06, 2008, 12:23:20 PM
Pirates are filthy. I'd rather be killed by someone who has good hygiene like the ninjas.
Agreed. Ninjas have to be clean, because it's hard to hide when you are smelly.
What do you mean "pirates are filthy"? They get keel-hauled regularly.
Nfr
I forgot about that.
wow...that is one amazing tangent! :icon_weee: <---how i feel right now...for no particular reason
Having just submitted an introduction yesterday, I feel I am embarking on a journey, and this topic is a great place to start. Forgive me for being self-centered but that is where I am now.
When I was a teenager, adults described me as cute and sweet. But even then I did not like the way I looked cross dressing; bowlegs look out of place beneath a skirt. So I went the other way. At fifteen, I grew a beard. My beard is now full and gray.
My hair was short then; my mother threatened to put a bow in it if I didn't keep it cut. It has grown increasingly long (no baldness). When wet, it stretches to my navel, and I keep it in a low, curly, pony tail, both to limit criticism from wife and daughter and because I have no idea what else to do with it. I love my hair and wish I knew how to make it prettier. Except for a little in crotch and under arms, that's about it for hair.
My body is fairly trim. When computer programming jobs dried up, because I am "too old to learn new things" as one HR person put it, because I lack a masters, and because many companies refuse to consider experience over five years old, I took a part-time job at UPS, unloading, sorting, and loading packages. They tried to cut me after the first holiday season. I am slower and not as strong as many, but I stuck it out. Now, six years later, I am a valued employee: I am there every day and I give the job all I have. It feels like compensation for the childhood years when no team wanted me on their side. And I would never stuck it out at a gym that long.
The latest thing is that the medicine I've started taking for BPH, being tethered to bathrooms does bother me, seems to be making my breast grow. They're hardly molehills now. Nobody would notice me bare chested on a beach. But I notice a difference and expect to be on these pills forever, and it is because I am so elated and excited that I sought out this site.
So, my body may bother me as I pursue advanced androgeny, but right now, I can't wait to see what happens next. BTW I already wear some of the shoes cited in another posting in this forum.
It is an honor to be among you,
Simone Louise
and it's an honour to have you here.
Welcome, Simone!
Perhaps we should get back on topic...thank you, Simone! Sometimes we get distracted...lots of tangents...
So!
In what other ways, do our bodies bother us?
I'd just like to look more androgynous...shedding a few pounds would help...
Are there any other concerns other than looking more androgynous?
whaddyamean?
what do you mean, "whaddyamean?" :icon_boxing:
I'm just trying to get a full understanding...I suppose that was a stupid question though... :eusa_shifty:
question...is there anyway to put those emoticons on a computer? they're so CUTE! it would be fun to cover my desktop in them...
Posted on: January 10, 2008, 07:28:14 PM
pica...did you have some horrible domestic accident involving a black tie affair and a bag of flour?
something similar, yes.
See https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,24497.msg185653.html#msg185653
Quote from: Jaimey on January 10, 2008, 07:16:38 PM
Are there any other concerns other than looking more androgynous?
Feeling androgynous?
I've come to the conclusion that this is really the biggest thing for me. Last summer and early autumn I thought I'd need to look androgynous, so I started experimenting with physical presentation. Sure, it was fun, and getting rid of the fear of looking too weird was liberating. Still, in the end that wasn't too important -- for instance, using an epilator on my beard resulted in a more androgynous
look, but with the drawback that I
felt a permanent stubble of new growth (which I couldn't shave because then the epilator wouldn't get a grip on it).
Around October I got a finasteride prescription to delay hair loss -- that is, mostly in order to not look any more male than I do now. What happened was what Simone Louise described (hi there, and welcome!): my nipples started to itch, and soon bulge out. They still don't look even as impressive as what I seen in the locker room on overweight men, but they feel very different from last summer. This, by itself, is enough for me to continue taking the pills.
The episode with breasts has also been therapeutic in another way. The phantom sensations I used to have were very much like how the real things feel, and it's nice to know that there was some sort of basis for those earlier sensations: I'm not delusional, I'm just wired to feel the female bits I don't have. It's kind of nice to have both sets between my legs, even if only one is physically real. ;)
So, well, for me the big bodily thing is how I feel inside. The big social thing is being allowed to not give a damn about whether others see me as masculine or too feminine, but that's off topic for this thread. Looking the part would be nice, but it's secondary.
Nfr
Pica Pica Looks like a mischievous little kid in that picture, cute. ;D
Cindy
To the one who asked if I work in Louisville (sorry I can't answer by personal message yet).
Not a wierd question at all. Louisville is an important UPS air hub.
I work and live in a community north of Boston. Yesterday, I overslept (thanks to ther finasteride I now can sleep over an hour at a time), rose at 3:24 am, dressed, and punched in at 4:04 (only 4 minutes late). My boss said that was OK; everyone oversleeps occasionally (phew!).
Thank God for weekends that let the body heal,
Simone
I live in Plymouth
We have no snow on the ground.
Rebis
Quote from: Rebis on January 12, 2008, 08:55:32 PM
I live in Plymouth
We have no snow on the ground.
Rebis
There's no snow in Louisville either. In fact, my friends and I were able to walk to the theater to see Enter the Dragon because it wasn't all that cold. I mean, it was cold, but not THAT cold.
I love snow...
I do not miss the snow. It snowed only twice here since early December and it was gone the next day.
Cindy
I'm in NH and we have lots of snow. It actually broke previous records for snowfall in December since 1870s... I'm tired of shoveling :(
y2g
South of New Hampshire and north of Plymouth, we still have snow despite recent rains. Tomorrow, the forecast is for another foot of snow. Tomorrow, I have to start work at 3:30 am. Those of you in Louisville can climb into Next-day UPS boxes and join me tomorrow.
The most fun I had in the snow was crosscountry skiing in Acadia National Park. To be among the mountains, overlooking the Atlantic, with my best friend and no one else around was idyllic. I think I'd like to try snowshoes (I'm such a speed demon).
As for shovelling, we live in a condominium so all the outside maintenance comes out of our condo fee. That's nice. On the other hand, the Association is always sending us letters threatening to fine us for having unplanted flower pots outside, and the like.
Quote from: Jaimey on December 29, 2007, 07:06:04 PM
Does your body bother you?
Yes. Give me metal, give me cybernetics, unsex me here, shrink me a few inches, shove my animus and persona outside my body and let me deal with things that way.
Funfortunately none of this is [yet] possible, so I can only tinker, shift and exert will on the bloody pile of meat I've been stuck with. Like Thom Yorke's name being 22% superfluous, I've got a look and parts that I don't particularly want or foresee using in my future.
not realy. I wanna have male parts like any dude. Its somethin I wanna fix soon but I'm cool w/my body. no complaints from me or my gf. :laugh:
I dislike mine intensely. Especially the really boy boy-bits.
Hi Chris
I think it's wonderful that you have a companion who loves you and supports you no mater what, I have a wonderful mate as well and I don't know how I could have handled everything by myself. In the end I was getting weary of the constant battle for survival, but alive without a soul was like living in an empty shell.
Have a wonderful day
Cindy
This has to be a quick posting, because I need to get supper cooking.
I just wanted to say amen to the benefit and power of an understanding relationship with significant other, and to ask how you all handle the discussion and presentation of androgeny at home. My wife (20 yrs in March) is a forceful type A personality who does more than anyone thinks possible. And I am the dreamer. We have talked some about gender issues. She identifies with some of it, is threatened by some, and gets upset at some aspects.
And I would have to say that sometimes one of us adheres more to feminine (or to masculine) stereotypes and sometimes the other.
I could say more, but as I have implied if I don't get the chicken in the oven, I'll be in the doghouse again.
Simone (I've never been anyplace that had so many Simon's and Simone's)
Quote from: Simone Louise on January 18, 2008, 05:07:32 PM
Simone (I've never been anyplace that had so many Simon's and Simone's)
We are Simon(e). your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our collective. Resistance is futile.
Here's to the League of Androgenous Simon(e)s! Thanks, and my you reap blessings in return.
BTW the chicken earned repeated praise from my wife. Fridays (our sabbath) I make a meal from a book called, I think, the Cuisine of the Italian Jews which I tweak a little each time. Last night, I used a little barbecue rub on the skin and an apple in the cavity.
Also, I was thinking I feel jealous of those of you who play different sex roles in plays. To play a convincing female would be a thrill for me; I am by nature so clumsy and graceless.
Warm Sabbath regards,
Simone
It's fun. I've played schoolgirls, old ladies, femme fatales and a goddess once. There were always females available for these roles, but I was given 'em. I do look hot in a gymslip.
Hi Pica Pica
Have you got a pic? I would be interested to see how you looked.
Cindy
I do not have a picture of any quality. And no one can actually lot hot in a gymslip I don't think. It's all about covering up.
Jaimey-
To answer your query, "Does your body bother you?" No, my body doesn't bother me.
I don't feel that my body's natural state (natal female) is in conflict with my Androgyne state of mind. Each of the binary physiques has its own advantages and disadvantages. The body I have will do perfectly fine... no body dysphoria issues here. Indeed, I believe I would have been equally content had I been born with a healthy male body or intersex body. For the record, my breasts are slightly larger than the average adult female.
-Emerald :icon_mrgreen:
If I may add my four pennorth...after 50 years of masquerading as male, playing the rock 'n roll drummer stud and (tho' I say it myself) a good step-parent, I had to shed the tackle so I could take proper control of my life. I don't get laid so often but I feel honest and loved for my soul and not what I have between my legs. I'm not that feminine to look at but my relationships with my women friends is all I could have ever wanted and my male friends treat me with the respect a woman deserves. I've found it's all a matter of how you regard yourself and allow yourself to be treated. I bear my scars with pride.
My body does bother me. each time I look at my arms I think "Ughh, slightly too muscled, too hairy" , each time I look at my legs I think somewhat the same and each time I look at my face I get a semi-depression
Thats odd since I already have a somewhat feminine face....I guess the urge to getit more feminized is making me all frustrated
Quote from: Jaimey on December 29, 2007, 07:06:04 PM
This is just something that I've been thinking about because, except for the fatness (ugh...my fat ass needs to get on a treadmill), my body doesn't bother me too much, but it seems like a lot of people do not like their bodies...hmmm.
I was thinking that one reason I don't feel the need to bind (i'm female bodied), is that my grandmother, who is the epitome of 'woman' for me, had a double mastectomy before I was born, so for me, the person I knew as the ideal woman never had breasts. (*ehem* and mine are kind of small anyway...)
I was just wondering what everyone else thought about this. I'm on a mission to have a complete understanding of what it is to be androgyne, not just what it is for ME to be androgyne. :)
I wish I had no breasts at all (mine are really small and I get mistaken for a boy in clubs sometimes even if I wear a corset).
And I wish I had big muscles (I have no fat and consist of lean muscle: but very slim) and I wish I had no female reproductive system. At the same time, I wouldn't want facial hair, coarse skin, short hair, rough hands, or low voice--too masculine.
It is strange for me to think I have woman's reproductive system... I look like adrogynous boy/girl.
I despise my body, and wish I could regrow a new one to start this life over.
I don't associate myself with my body in any way except my skinniness and facial features, like my eyes I'd never change. Kinda like my hair sometimes when Its worked on, but thats about it.
I usually feel like a floating TV screen that doesn't walk at all, and that theres a blown fuze.
I hate my body hair. I'll remove a lot of it, and never get the time to finish it, or the privacy, so I'll have smooth and then patches of hair which annoy me to no end and disgust me. Its very UNCLEAN in feeling to me.
I have so many health problems that every day is a struggle to live and eat. If I do eat, it tastes terrible and is gluten free styrofoam bull->-bleeped-<-.
Acne. Is. The. WORST. THING. EVER.
I grind my teeth cause of stress
My bones ache
I feel OLD. I'm ITCHY!!!!! CRAP! >:(
My veins pop out through my translucent skin, and it always creeps me out and makes me feel more fragile and less human.
My genitalia
Quote from: DanielDaniel on February 10, 2008, 12:47:04 AM
I wish I had no breasts at all (mine are really small and I get mistaken for a boy in clubs sometimes even if I wear a corset).
And I wish I had big muscles (I have no fat and consist of lean muscle: but very slim) and I wish I had no female reproductive system. At the same time, I wouldn't want facial hair, coarse skin, short hair, rough hands, or low voice--too masculine.
It is strange for me to think I have woman's reproductive system... I look like adrogynous boy/girl.
You sound like you're the way I want to be. I wouldn't want the reproductive system either.
I look the way you wouldn't want to look - facial hair, coarse skin, short hair, rough hands, or low voice--too masculine
I hate my hair (ale pattern baldness) I hate my hairy chest and my go tee that is all I can grow. I have no have boobs and I hate my broad shoulders . I wear a size 10 in womens shoe my hands are the same size as my moms :) i hate my penis and want to be a real mom. :(
Kimberly Kilpatrick
Are you on HRT? if you are, how long have been on HRT? and how old are you? If you are young and on HRT then depending how long you been on it. You might be amazed as to what estrogen does for you in approx six months, but that much depends on the person constitution though as to how fast the estrogen works.
Cindy.
Does it bother me? Some.
Like others I would like to reduce my masculinity (or vice versa for some). Not entirely though, I do not care to go completely androgynous, but like I said, a reduction.
Looks wise, laser my beard, clean up my eyebrows, restore/save my hairline (starting to show)
Maybe thin out my body hair, I am not into the waxed look for myself but I would like less hair.
Luckily this stuff luckily can be accomplished without major surgery.
Unfortunately getting my eyes and teeth (see below) fixed will probably take priority over most of that. I have no depth perception (zero), I more or less see 2 dimensional.
Down the line, maybe I will go for more, but for now, I would be just happy with just those listed.
I would really like to fix some heath related problems though. When I was younger a buddy and I both expected to be cripple by our mid 40's from bmx bicycle riding. Seems I am getting closer to that age and while I can still walk (and ride) with some effort, my body has sure taken a beating over the years. I could list out the problems, but it would be a big list. It would be a smaller list if I said what does still work 100%. Almost everything has taken damage, face, nose, teeth, wrists, ankles, back, KNEES(!)... You get the point.
Just remove the brain and insert into a new body.
Quote from: sd on February 10, 2008, 05:02:56 AM
Does it bother me? Some.
Like others I would like to reduce my masculinity (or vice versa for some). Not entirely though, I do not care to go completely androgynous, but like I said, a reduction.
Looks wise, laser my beard, clean up my eyebrows, restore/save my hairline (starting to show)
Maybe thin out my body hair, I am not into the waxed look for myself but I would like less hair.
Luckily this stuff luckily can be accomplished without major surgery.
Unfortunately getting my eyes and teeth (see below) fixed will probably take priority over most of that. I have no depth perception (zero), I more or less see 2 dimensional.
Down the line, maybe I will go for more, but for now, I would be just happy with just those listed.
I would really like to fix some heath related problems though. When I was younger a buddy and I both expected to be cripple by our mid 40's from bmx bicycle riding. Seems I am getting closer to that age and while I can still walk (and ride) with some effort, my body has sure taken a beating over the years. I could list out the problems, but it would be a big list. It would be a smaller list if I said what does still work 100%. Almost everything has taken damage, face, nose, teeth, wrists, ankles, back, KNEES(!)... You get the point.
Just remove the brain and insert into a new body.
Finally someone else says the final line in your post! :>
Quote from: cindybc on February 10, 2008, 04:14:02 AM
Kimberly Kilpatrick
Are you on HRT? if you are, how long have been on HRT? and how old are you? If you are young and on HRT then depending how long you been on it. You might be amazed as to what estrogen does for you in approx six months, but that much depends on the person constitution though as to how fast the estrogen works.
Cindy.
No not yet. I have to wait a few months. And I have to find a therapist to work with, About the only thing I can work on now is my weight. And I have already started. I am eating less meat more salads and diet drinks. I will look for a therapist when i get insurance. Which will be in may sometime. But I will not be able to transition on this job so I really don't know what to do. I am doing all i can at the moment I dress almost part time and all my friends know or knew from my past. I am not afraid of what people think anymore. i am growing to old I can't wait for HRT ;D
Hi Kimberly Kilpatrick, I believe that some exercise along with a diet will go a long way. Are you going to get laser removal done? That's something else you could do until you find an therapist. Once you find a therapist he/she can, will certainly prescribe hrt, or refer you to an endo to get the prescription for hormones. You only need to establish that you are serious about transitioning and then they will make the recommendation hrt. The waiting time to get on the hormones is usually about 90 days.
I didn't start hrt until nearly a month after I came out full time. With the GID on my heels, I had to overcome the fear in order to start full time. I was actually surprised as to how I was accepted by both males and females of the species. The entire town treated me with respect. "Yuck!" I certainly was a sight for sore eyes in doing my early full time, I was skinny as a tooth pic.
Now it's going on to 8 years full time and only got accosted by one person. I was soon to discovered that he was a drunk who followed me out of the variety store and made a grab for my purse. There weren't no way no how I was doing to let him have my purse, over my dead body I shouted while all the while I was screaming to bloody murder. And the dead body could very well happened if he hadn't been as polluted as he was. I'm a peaceful girl, mild nature country girl. I would do anything to avoid an aggressive confrontation and I don't bother anyone none, and I abhor the male species especially this particular one that just out of the blue decides to practice how to utilize his testosterone to bully me.
As it was it was just dumb luck, I think, that he failed at giving me more then just a couple of raccoon eyes. I managed to dislodge my purse from his hands and whacked him good upside the head with it. As he stood there kind of like stunned, or maybe seeing stars, or I completely befuddled him at to how such a tiny person could actually bitch whop him.. I didn't waste any time getting into my car and locking all the doors. I really don't know why I typed out this old story, except to point out that maybe I have a guardian angel watching over me. Or I was fortunate that the drunk was slightly stunned from the encounter with my purse. I have not had any other incidences since then.
Cindy
i hate certain aspects of my appearance, i have hair growing in places girls shouldn't, my voice gets way too deep when my throat gets sore, i would actually like to gain 10-20 lbs in my rear so some of the clothes my wife buys for me would actually fit the way they are supposed. i wish my nails didn't break so easily, my adam's apple, few people actually see it which surprises me. and of course, there's that wonderful adult acne. my hair to grow more properly like a woman's, it already grows in different layers....................
Mickie