Hi,
I am almost three weeks post-op with Chettawut, and realising how unrealistic his dilation schedule is. He expects three 50 minute sessions a day for the first two years. Afterwards, he requires 2-3 times a week, for life.
I understand Suporn requires much much less, with the dilation going down to once a day after 6 months and after a year - once a week, for life.
Can anyone explain why Chettawut's dilation requirements are much harsher? It seems like they use pretty much the same technique for the surgery. It just makes no sense to me.
Anyone who has done surgery with Chettawut who was actually able to meet the dilating requirements for such a long time? It just seems like it's un-doable.
Thanks. :)
I'm not sure. I went to Suporn. I'm at about once every few days, a little over a year post-op.
That might be more of a question for their office.
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I have the impression that no one actually keeps to Chettawut's dilation schedule.
I'm not so familar with Chett, but I've read a lot of Suporn stories and its clear its more a rough guideline more than anything, and that you need to dilate as much as you need to - you're body will let you know. If you're not doing it enough things will get difficult and you'll start to lose depth, so increase it.
Some women reduce their dilation schedule much more quickly than others, some far more slowly.
Hello
can i ask if your pleased with Chettawut's overall ?
i myself was thinking hard about going to Chettawut's for srs but haven't seen so many reviews recently on his operations
Quote from: Kellyduffy on August 15, 2018, 09:51:53 AM
Hello
can i ask if your pleased with Chettawut's overall ?
i myself was thinking hard about going to Chettawut's for srs but haven't seen so many reviews recently on his operations
I'll send you a private message.
Quote from: Kellyduffy on August 15, 2018, 09:51:53 AM
Hello
can i ask if your pleased with Chettawut's overall ?
i myself was thinking hard about going to Chettawut's for srs but haven't seen so many reviews recently on his operations
Oops.. it seems I am not able to message you, the system won't let me..
I'm afraid I don't feel comfortable talking about this publicly just yet (I'm still in his care), but I will post soon in the forums.
I am a Chett girl - 6 months post-op.
After 6 weeks I moved to x2 per day, without any issues. Since then, i only missed 2-3 dilations (mainly due to socialising: getting in at 2-3am and realising that I have to get up at 6am to dilate so there is no point dilating at 3am :-)).
i can get to full depth within 5 minutes, on a x2 per day schedule (i do x5 minutes of 1, 2 and 3 stents, then x10 minutes of the number 4). After 12 months, I am going to try x1 session per day and see where that gets me.
Based on my chat with Chett girls from around the same time as me, some alternate between x2 or x3 per day, depending on healing and other personal circumstances, but NOBODY does x3 per day religiously, especially after 12 months.
Chett's schedules are really unrealistic. I had BA at the same time as SRS and, if I kept to the BA massage schedule and the SRS schedule, i wouldn't have time to work, let alone sleep or eat.
As an aside, I am really happy with the SRS result. I have a 100 per cent. success rate with solo orgasms :-)
I went with Chettawut for the GRS in April this year.
Agree that the 3X schedule is difficult to keep up with especially balancing career and family life.
The nurse did mentioned that it can be reduced to 2 sessions with lengthening each time.
Presently I am trying to maintain the schedule but its often challenging as the preparation till finish dilation takes up almost 2hours each session.
I always do the dilation early in the morning at 430 to 5am once I woke up and afterwhich is a rush to work. Coming back and second session at about 10pm which by the time i get to bed is about 130 after completing the daily household task as well.
Yes, its exhausting and mentally tiring. I did slip once or twice by missing the morning or evening schedule due to Long haul flights (not possible to dilate on the plane can I) but I try to religiously maintain that schedule. Depth wise I have yet to lose any so far, but if you ask me I gather that coming so far in this journey, its a small price to pay. I do not wish to lose any depth since my depth is already not that deep...
Weekends I try to get as much rest as possible to recover the exhaustion. Chettawut had mentioned that its for 2 years after which the schedule can be reduced to 3X a week. Well its a Long way to go, hopefully I can get thru it.
I have one question for Chettawut gals thou, do you encounter any difficulties during intercourse? It seems that one probably need to dilate first prior to intercourse, else its difficult to accommodate? Apologies if it sounds too personal.
Quote from: Brenda80 on August 19, 2018, 01:14:22 PM
I have one question for Chettawut gals thou, do you encounter any difficulties during intercourse? It seems that one probably need to dilate first prior to intercourse, else its difficult to accommodate? Apologies if it sounds too personal.
I am 9 months post op and am totally satisfied with the outcome of my SRS with Dr Chettawut, except that I find I am somewhat tight. I am in search of a 35 mm straight dilator (or dildo) but so far failed to find one.
Quote from: Lucie on August 27, 2018, 01:00:16 AM
I am 9 months post op and am totally satisfied with the outcome of my SRS with Dr Chettawut, except that I find I am somewhat tight. I am in search of a 35 mm straight dilator (or dildo) but so far failed to find one.
Soul Source make some straight ones, but they a not very long.
https://www.soulsource.com/collections/silicone-vaginal-dilators
And some others
http://www.rpdinc.com/rounded-nylon-dilators-197
https://vaginismus.com/products/vaginal-dilator-set/
https://www.pelvision.nl/?menuid=55
If you know anyone going to Suporn, his large is 34-35mm and perhaps they could pick one up for you.
Thank you so much AnonyMs for the links.
I asked rpdinc for their prices and shipping cost.
Unfortunately Soul Source straight dilators as well as Vaginismus and Pelvision dilators being designed for vaginismus issues are too short.
I asked Suporn clinic whether they would sell me their dilator but they refused. Sadly I don't know anyone going to Suporn clinic to whom I could ask to pick one for me.
Could you post the prices when you find out. I'm curious.
If you try Suporn's dynamic dilation technique you may find its good for the tightness.
Yes of course I'll post rpdinc prices when I'll have got them.
As for dynamic dilation technique I find it far less efficient for enlarging the end of the vagina than for enlarging its entrance.
The PAI dilator size 3 is 34mm.
Unfortunately, they don´t sell just the one. Need to buy all 3 in a pack. Costs a bit less than 100 dollars I think.
If anyone is visiting Bangkok, could pick you the pack or otherwise, mail the clinic and ask if they ship you.
Thank you Mendi for the suggestion.
Actually I already considered PAI dilators. Unfortunately they are bent (as Soul Source dilators) which does not suit me.
Quote from: Lucie on August 27, 2018, 09:32:40 AM
Thank you Mendi for the suggestion.
Actually I already considered PAI dilators. Unfortunately they are bent (as Soul Source dilators) which does not suit me.
No it´s not bent. It´s straight. I have the 3 pack of them, which I bought a month ago before leaving for home.
Oh, the picture on their site (http://pai.co.th/grs-dilator) shows dilators with a bent tip (?).
Quote from: Lucie on August 27, 2018, 01:46:29 PM
Oh, the picture on their site (http://pai.co.th/grs-dilator) shows dilators with a bent tip (?).
That must be some old picture. The current ones are clear and straight. This picture shows similar ones that the current ones are now.
I got 2 as a complimentary, white ones and straight.
And then I bought the 3 pack, which are clear plastic, like glass and straight.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcScTG5C06vXnuSMVH84eEMsvv9h2TG4oJHk_0Y13yJVWhkMbFQfyA)
Thank you for that clarification. I am going to ask PAI for a quotation but I am afraid that the shipping cost will be prohibitive.
A last question: their site mentions 4 sizes (28mm, 31mm, 34mm and 36mm). Which ones are actually in the 3 pack?
I'd double check which ones are current as the straight ones look like the rest of the dilators used in thailand. I had the impression they had just changed over to the bent style. Maybe they are just about to?
There seems to be a mistake on that page too, saying they are both 6" and 8" long.
I was in PAI just a month ago, when I bought the clear dilators.
I have the three pack, the first 3 sizes. Nobody mentioned to me that they would have a size 4. I´m quite sure I would have been told, if there would have been size 4.
All 3 of them are 8 inches long. The 6 inch I guess is a reference how many inches are marked.
The size 3 as it is today in PAI, bought a month ago.
(https://i.imgur.com/u0f7As7.jpg)
I am familiar with dilators. Dr Chett has 4 sizes , PAI does not use the smallest size and starts with Dr Chett # 2, thus PAI 3 = Dr Chett #4
Regarding the times a day for diilation. I have a few friends that used Dr Chett. They abondoned his schedule after 6 weeks. PAI recommends a schedule of 15 to 20 mins 2x a day for the first year. All the PAI girls have not had a problem with this schedule and have great depth. This allows time for a normal life.
Dr Suporn meshes his scrotal skin for the vagina and I am not familiar with the dilation requirements. I am aware that there are some advantages and some additional problems associated with dilation.
Quote from: Mendi on August 27, 2018, 11:42:57 PM
The size 3 as it is today in PAI, bought a month ago.
(https://i.imgur.com/u0f7As7.jpg)
Yes! I was going to ask you a picture. Thank you!
Quote from: warlockmaker on August 28, 2018, 12:51:45 AM
I am familiar with dilators. Dr Chett has 4 sizes , PAI does not use the smallest size and starts with Dr Chett # 2, thus PAI 3 = Dr Chett #4
Actually Dr. Chettawut provide 5 dilators (from #0 to #4). They all are smaller than the ones from PAI:
Chett PAI
#0 20 mm -
#1 23 mm 28 mm
#2 26 mm 31 mm
#3 29 mm 34 mm
#4 32 mm [36 mm]
Well this turned into an interesting discussion about the dilator sizes, because I didn´t know that Dr. Chett dilators are smaller in size.
It comforts me a little bit, because I started yesterday to use the PAI size 3...and the first time especially was painful and it´s not easy to get it inside, but once inside it is ok.
But the first times got me crying, that I wont have sex ever, because I´m way too tight. But, I understand that it will take weeks or months to stretch enough. This morning was already much easier.
And in anycase, those dilators are hard as rock...the real thing is not like that, it will give in a bit and accomodate...the dilator wont give mercy ;D
I am going to ask PAI for a quotation (including shipping).
I agree that all those dilators are horribly hard and leave the whole work to our delicate anatomy.
On that matter I wonder whether something more flexible such as a jelly dildo would not make dilation more efficient and less painful (the work being then shared by both the dilator and the vagina). Unfortunately for the time being I could not find such a dildo which would suit me: every ones I saw were either too big (38 mm or more) or too small (30 mm or less) or not long enough (less than 7" insertable) :(
The medical dialators must be hard to enable your skin to stretch and essential for the first year. After a year of medical dilators you can use the soft one for personal pleasure. Much like having sex, its soft. I noticed that I still need to use the medical dilator to get the depth back even with regular sex.
I remember my two friends who had srs at the same time, one girl used to hang the #3 on the wall to motivate her. I remember very well the first time I moved to a thicker dilator. Also, couldn't image using the #3 PAI. It all gets easier with time and diligence.
Quote from: AnonyMs on August 27, 2018, 06:22:11 AM
http://www.rpdinc.com/rounded-nylon-dilators-197
Quote from: AnonyMs on August 27, 2018, 08:29:51 AM
Could you post the prices when you find out. I'm curious.
I received a quotation from the french distributor of Radiation Product Design. The price for one dilator (nylon, 35 mm diameter, length 10") is 266 USD (228 euros)...
Quote from: Lucie on September 13, 2018, 10:51:50 AM
I received a quotation from the french distributor of Radiation Product Design. The price for one dilator (nylon, 35 mm diameter, length 10") is 266 USD (228 euros)...
That's ridiculous. I found another supplier. Do a search for Syracuse Medical Devices Vaginal Dilators, and you'll find some suppliers.
Here's one
https://www.smeincusa.com/sme/syracuse-medical-vaginal-dilators.html
Also look for this article which mentions them, and some suppliers
"Vaginal dilation: When it's indicated and tips on teaching it", OBG Manag. 2012 December;24(12):12-18.
Edit: I think they may be too short.
Thank you AnonyMs for this information. I asked smeincusa for the length of these dilators, but I am afraid that they are too short since in the article it's said that "Most dilators used in the United States are 6 in (15 cm) long".
Maybe they could make make you a longer one. Tell them there's a potential market for them, and why.
Quote from: AnonyMs on September 13, 2018, 01:30:11 PM
Maybe they could make make you a longer one. Tell them there's a potential market for them, and why.
smeincusa (Superior Medical Equipment) is a reseller. I could not find any mail address or web site allowing to contact the manufacturer (Syracuse Medical Devices). Anyway I am pretty sure that their price for a special production would be at least as high as the one of the Radiation Product Design dilator.
I think that I have to stick to the idea of finding someone who plans to go to PAI in the hope that she could get for me their largest dilators and send them to me.
It's probably really easy to make one if you know anyone with access to a lathe. Suporns early dilators were made at his daughters school.
Quote from: AnonyMs on September 13, 2018, 03:18:36 PM
It's probably really easy to make one if you know anyone with access to a lathe. Suporns early dilators were made at his daughters school.
I don't know anyone in my area who could do that. Not to mention the explanations (somewhat embarrassing for me) I should give to that person about the purpose of the dilator...
Quote from: Lucie on August 27, 2018, 01:00:16 AM
I am 9 months post op and am totally satisfied with the outcome of my SRS with Dr Chettawut, except that I find I am somewhat tight. I am in search of a 35 mm straight dilator (or dildo) but so far failed to find one.
Thanks Lucie. 35mm I think quite possible to accommodate once you gotten to the size 4 of Chettawut. I noticed thou that for PAI the tip is smaller as compared to Chettawut ones. Which seems to be more of even to the tip from the diameter point of view. I feel some pain thou once hitting the depth and trying to maintain it.
Quote from: Brenda80 on August 19, 2018, 01:14:22 PM
I have one question for Chettawut gals thou, do you encounter any difficulties during intercourse? It seems that one probably need to dilate first prior to intercourse, else its difficult to accommodate?
Yes, I absolutely need to dilate before intercourse. That's why I aim to accomodate a 35mm dilator, so that in that situation I do experience as little difficulties as possible, if any.
Quote from: Brenda80 on September 15, 2018, 06:14:24 PM
Thanks Lucie. 35mm I think quite possible to accommodate once you gotten to the size 4 of Chettawut. I noticed thou that for PAI the tip is smaller as compared to Chettawut ones. Which seems to be more of even to the tip from the diameter point of view. I feel some pain thou once hitting the depth and trying to maintain it.
For the time being I could not accommodate a 35mm dilator without dilating with the size 4 of Chettawut beforehand.
Now and then I too feel some pain when #4 reaches the end but it is always momentary and quite bearable. Anyway, after a few minutes I feel no longer any pain even if I push strongly.
As for the PAI dilator I would not say that its tip is smaller than Chettawut ones but that it is rounder (less flat).
Suwahdi Kah (สวัสดี) Hey Girls,
It's been awhile...
I'm a Chett Girl. 7 months Post Op. I have NOT followed the laminated schedule since week 9 Post Op. You have to listen to your body.
Jess
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Quote from: Jessika on September 18, 2018, 09:14:59 PM
Bangkok Rama Room 4074 (Is my signed Microwave still there?) <3 :)
I stayed in room 4075! (10 months ago)