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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Topic started by: Nero on December 31, 2007, 08:07:49 PM

Title: The Sad Child
Post by: Nero on December 31, 2007, 08:07:49 PM
A trans child is a sad child. A man-child raised a girl and a woman-child raised a boy. A terribly sad and painful experience no child should endure.

Your thoughts?
Agree or disagree?
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Sarah on December 31, 2007, 08:18:10 PM
It was difficult, yes.
and sad.
It made me a stronger person though!
that's a plus. :-\
On the bright side, people are born this way so it means that it is normal in some sense.
Eventually when peoples view changes, it will be easier for kids like us to grow up, as society will not view them as adnormal.
that would be great. then kids could just be themselves and transition with the support of the community.
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Wing Walker on December 31, 2007, 08:39:37 PM
Quote from: Nero on December 31, 2007, 08:07:49 PM
A trans child is a sad child. A man-child raised a girl and a woman-child raised a boy. A terribly sad and painful experience no child should endure.

Your thoughts?
Agree or disagree?

Hi, Nero,

Yes, I agree that in general it was a sad and painful experience.  I was not one of the boys and as much as I wished they would, the girls wouldn't accept me.  That left me open to getting my ass kicked after school or on the playground at lunch.

I was naive and about worshiped girls because they were, in general, my ideal.  I could not believe how the boys treated them and how they didn't fight back, but that was the way things went and I had no way to get involved.

When I got to high school it was a large place and I found it easier to just fade into the crowd.

I still prayed every night to wake up and find that I was really a girl, but that did not happen.

Wing Walker
Mending More Every Day
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: stephm on December 31, 2007, 09:40:10 PM
Quote from: Nero on December 31, 2007, 08:07:49 PM
A trans child is a sad child. A man-child raised a girl and a woman-child raised a boy. A terribly sad and painful experience no child should endure.

Your thoughts?
Agree or disagree?

Agree entirely, but no other thoughts really
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Pica Pica on December 31, 2007, 09:44:34 PM
An androgyne child is a lost child, never alone enough to feel very different, but never close enough to feel really close.
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: RebeccaFog on December 31, 2007, 11:53:33 PM
      an androgyne child doesn't know if they are male or female.  Everyone is an alien to them.  No one can tell them what's wrong or why.

      I wasn't sad all the time as a child, but I was disconnected.
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: IsabelleStPierre on January 01, 2008, 02:59:47 PM
Quote from: Nero on December 31, 2007, 08:07:49 PM
A trans child is a sad child. A man-child raised a girl and a woman-child raised a boy. A terribly sad and painful experience no child should endure.

Your thoughts?
Agree or disagree?
Growing up trans is hard and often a lonely experience. Like WW pointed it, your not really excepted by the boys or the girls which leads to a rather lonely childhood and the object of abusive behavior.

Even those of us who transitioned when we were young still had problems being accepted often...and the abuse only gets worse too...but that was just my personal experience with it.

Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Shana A on January 01, 2008, 03:20:39 PM
I agree. I felt very lonely and isolated as a child, with very few friends. I was often sad or depressed. Unfortunately, I sometimes feel this as an adult too, although at least I have more friends now.

y2g
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Lisbeth on January 02, 2008, 12:15:21 PM
Quote from: Nero on December 31, 2007, 08:07:49 PM
A trans child is a sad child.
I was.
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Snowdoggy on January 02, 2008, 03:57:35 PM
Definitely. I was very sad and angry through my teen years. My dad used to drink and get very violent both verbally and physically with me because I went off the rails. He used to say I was a frustrated lesbian. I never knew I was gender dysphoric then (never heard of the term) but knew I was a male and couldn't deal with puberty. My dad is now teetotal and was convinced that he caused my dysphoria (he thought I was like this because I was scared of men) although I did have a relationship with a man for 12 years. My dad understands now that what I have is gender related and nothing to do with my choice of partner gender wise or as far as relationships go.
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Ell on January 02, 2008, 04:59:37 PM
i guess a girl who is a tomboy sort of has it ok in some regards, especially as a child.

i loved playing with girls, but also with boys too.

as i mentioned earlier, i just loved to climb trees. in summer i liked exploring, baseball, catching frogs, toads, snakes, fireflies and lots of other bugs, swimming, going for ice cream, going to the corner store to buy candy, going to the creek to watch the crayfish.

in autumn (i loved the autumn and thinking about ghosts, goblins, and witches) we would rake up big piles of leaves then run and jump into them. and get huge bags of candy on Halloween.

in winter i liked sledding, ice skating, building snow forts, snowball fights. and at all times of the year, we'd go to the movies once in a while. usually a matinee on Saturday afternoons. that was fun. and we'd always get up early and watch cartoons on Saturday mornings. Ah...!!! no, it wasn't so bad, actually.

-ell
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: carol_w on January 02, 2008, 05:26:31 PM
Between being an "only child" and being trans, it was VERY lonely.  The only thing that was good about it was developing a huge imagination. 

Looking back on it, I spent more times being sad than happy.  The memory that I have more than anything else was the pain of not fitting in.  That made high school h***.

Carol
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: J.T. on January 02, 2008, 09:28:33 PM
i don't think i was "sad" until i was nearing puberty.  Being very young i didn't know any better.  Or maybe i've blocked it all out.  But yeah, I agree.

I think it is getting better now... I hope so.  I hope that trans children have an easier time now, that there is less sadness in the world for them.
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: BriannaKatherine on January 02, 2008, 10:33:15 PM
i also agree fully
my own memories and experiences were atypical i think but again not certain

with mine i dont remember being connected with either gender because i was so isolated
books were my only companions when i was growing up and kept wonding if my 'real' family would come and find me one day and rescue me..like they were some sort of mythical or fantastic beings who would take me away
i had this odd curiosity about transsexual at 16 and began to look into it but not realizing why
and came to it about 6 yrs after that
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 03, 2008, 07:48:34 AM

Whenever you think you had a sad childhood, you should just remember that time you were eating ice-cream and no one was yelling at you.


:)
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Pica Pica on January 03, 2008, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Ashley Michelle on January 03, 2008, 01:19:02 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 03, 2008, 07:48:34 AM

Whenever you think you had a sad childhood, you should just remember that time you were eating ice-cream and no one was yelling at you.


:)


i dropped mine on the floor and my dog ate it   :'(


there's no hope for you then is there?
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Ell on January 03, 2008, 02:13:01 PM
Quote from: Ashley Michelle on January 03, 2008, 01:43:11 PM
lol i've been saying that for years!   ;)

we're supposed to yell at you for that, says you, according to Kate.

but since Kate and Redfish are both my arch nemeses, nevermind.
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: RebeccaFog on January 03, 2008, 03:19:21 PM
Quote from: Ashley Michelle on January 03, 2008, 01:19:02 PM
Quote from: Rebis on January 03, 2008, 07:48:34 AM

Whenever you think you had a sad childhood, you should just remember that time you were eating ice-cream and no one was yelling at you.


:)


i dropped mine on the floor and my dog ate it   :'(
along with your happy childhood.



[I'm playing.  Please don't think I'm mocking your pain]
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: tinkerbell on January 03, 2008, 09:52:29 PM
I have never posted these pictures here, but I think they speak for themselves.  I will be deleting them in a few days due to privacy concerns.

Three years old
(http://)

Five years old
(//)

Six years old
(//)

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Nero on January 03, 2008, 10:09:45 PM
Oh Tink - your eyes. So beautiful. So telling. The pain is clear, even at 3 years old, but so deep and so beautiful!
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Pica Pica on January 03, 2008, 10:17:26 PM
phew.
I felt the beams come from those eyes. glad you took control.
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Ell on January 03, 2008, 10:19:27 PM
Hey look, everybody!  it's Tink.  Hi Tink.

*ell elbows Tink in the ribs a little*
Title: Re: The Sad Child
Post by: Christo on January 04, 2008, 01:45:33 AM
Quote from: Tink on January 03, 2008, 09:52:29 PM
I have never posted these pictures here, but I think they speak for themselves. 

tink :icon_chick:

:( :icon_hug: