As mtf, what do you like the most and least as part of transitioning?
I am not that far along as many of you but I am most happy so far of what I realized and what I am still figuring out about my gender identity. And although I've just been on PhytoEstrogen and Fin for four years, my body has slowly been feminizing, and that is wonderful. I love the changes.
What I do not like is the daunting amount of things still to learn and change and to go through. The hair removal on the upper lip area sounded bad enough, but lower body hair removal sounds absolutely awful. That makes No-Op below sound not so bad, even with its limitations. There are many "hard" matters really, and I am sure that many of you will bring these up.
Chrissy
The most finally being happy with myself in my body the least the looks I sometimes get from people it doesn't happen often but when it does happen I notice
If you can't accept yourself, how can you expect others to accept you?
Quote from: Arianna Valentine on November 22, 2018, 04:29:09 PM
The most finally being happy with myself in my body the least the looks I sometimes get from people it doesn't happen often but when it does happen I notice
If you can't accept yourself, how can you expect others to accept you?
That is absolutely correct and that is something of the highest importance.
Chrissy
The thing I like the most is finally being able to connect with people emotionally. I always used to feel anxiety and stress when I tried interacting with people and it was because I hated being misgendered so much. It took transitioning and learning what it's like to have my gender validated for me to realize that I'm actually a lot better with people than I thought [emoji16]
What I like the least is the loss of strength. I used to be able to jump and pull myself up by my arms and it's basically impossible for me now. There's a ten foot wall near where I work and I used to climb over it because it was easier than walking around. It was disappointing and a little embarrassing when I first realized I couldn't get over it anymore.
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Quote from: Angela H on November 22, 2018, 04:49:49 PM
The thing I like the most is finally being able to connect with people emotionally. I always used to feel anxiety and stress when I tried interacting with people and it was because I hated being misgendered so much. It took transitioning and learning what it's like to have my gender validated for me to realize that I'm actually a lot better with people than I thought [emoji16]
What I like the least is the loss of strength. I used to be able to jump and pull myself up by my arms and it's basically impossible for me now. There's a ten foot wall near where I work and I used to climb over it because it was easier than walking around. It was disappointing and a little embarrassing when I first realized I couldn't get over it anymore.
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Angela,
I am glad that you are finding yourself much more comfortable now relating emotionally with others. Congratulations on your transitioning, I see it made for a life satisfying change for you.
I can relate with the loss of strength. I cannot lift as much any longer.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Chrissy
What I like most about transitioning is the freedom to be myself. I never again have to think, "No, I can't say/do/wear that because it isn't masculine enough." No more self-censoring! I feel about a million pounds lighter.
What I like least are the waiting lists. And electrolysis, though the end of that tunnel is finally in sight.
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on November 22, 2018, 04:26:49 PM
As mtf, what do you like the most and least as part of transitioning?
My most favorable part of transition is when my inner sense of identity matched my outer physical body.
The least favorable part is leaving the old guy behind. He was outwardly successful and had a life, but it just did not match the inner self.
What do I like most? Being comfortable in my own skin, finally being at peace after decades of anger and rage.
What do I like least? The unending appointments for electrolysis!
I like when I can blend in.
I don't like when I stand out because I'm trans or being judged for it... But I think I was judged before too, for different reasons.
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While I respect the blending in stance, I enjoy being someone different. I like to think the people who interact with me go home thinking "I met a transgender person today, and they weren't what I expected."
Hugs, Devlyn
Being transgender gave me a unique perspective on life, it opened my eyes to things other people may never think about, but I like those moments the most when I can completely let myself go in the enjoyable and relaxing way and just enjoy being my true self.
These moments are magical, a carefree, happy, even bubbly girl emerges. When I look in the mirror I see the spark of life in my eyes and can't stop smiling because I actually like what I see.
The worst thing is when I realize that the happy and bubbly girl is the real me, and those happy feelings are not extreme, they just feel that way because I'm so numb normally and that I still have a long way to go.
What did I like the most? Getting to finally be/live as me! :)
What did I like the least - all of the electrolysis I had (several hundred hours to the tune of 30 plus thousand dollars), due to me having heavy facial hair (which was weird, because I had very little body hair) - even with shaving, I had 5 o-clock shadow by 10 o-clock in the morning. Ugh!!! :(
Oh another thing that I love most about changing shopping and wardrobe change and skirts and heels
Another thing I hate waxing shaving and hair removal in general
If you can't accept yourself, how can you expect others to accept you?
I like it that my body is changing. I have been hopeful and patient.
I do not like shaving or waxing, but I will put up with it for now.
Chrissy
I like the hormones the best
There is SO much to like but one thing that hasn't been mentioned is the ease I feel opening up to other women now (and conversely, they feel opening up to me) It's like a sense we have around one another that allows us to let our guard down and it happens even in "boy mode" with total strangers. More than my changing body or emotions those moments make me feel I have truly switched sides socially and um, spiritually?
I hate the drugs. I don't like how spiro dries me out and I don't like having this dependency on them.
Most
Not being afraid to look at that cute skirt in the store. Not being afraid to try on that skirt. Not being afraid to buy it and actually bring able to wear it in front of other people. Of course its not about the clothes, that's just a simple example of not having to hide. Not having this huge secret that I dare not let anyone find out about.
Least
The slow pace of change and still having to shave every day. Electrolysis is helping but see previous.
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My first two years on HRT was a magical moment in my life. I had finally found happiness in myself, and with each passing month a slight change which brought my body closer to my mind. The part I disliked most were the endless hours of electrolysis in those first couple years. So glad I had that done and out of the way early lol.
For me it was shopping for a whole new wardrobe and having my wonderful spouse along with her great sense of fashion.
The "least" thing about all this is why didn't I do this many years ago 😐
Likes:
Well, us girls can do a lot of fun things, some of those shown here you might enjoy:
Lana Del Ray
This is What Makes Us Girls Fun to watch too! Copy and paste the link shown below, without the quotation marks, to get to this music video.
""http://youtu.be/hVIXLsK7Tt8""
Dislikes:
Some of us are not treated well by some people only because we are mtf.
Chrissy
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on November 22, 2018, 04:26:49 PM
As mtf, what do you like the most and least as part of transitioning?
I am not that far along as many of you but I am most happy so far of what I realized and what I am still figuring out about my gender identity. And although I've just been on PhytoEstrogen and Fin for four years, my body has slowly been feminizing, and that is wonderful. I love the changes.
What I do not like is the daunting amount of things still to learn and change and to go through. The hair removal on the upper lip area sounded bad enough, but lower body hair removal sounds absolutely awful. That makes No-Op below sound not so bad, even with its limitations. There are many "hard" matters really, and I am sure that many of you will bring these up.
Chrissy
Hi
In 4 yrs on fenugreek and PhytoEstrogen what changes and how much of a change have you seen. I started both along with sawgrass pimento about 60 day's ago.
Aj
Likes: Being the true me and no longer pretending to be male
Dislikes: Finding out first-hand experience that misogyny is alive and well and my biological father putting up a steel wall after I came out, but then again given how toxic he is, he probably did me a favor.
Quote from: Anjanette Miranda on November 27, 2018, 07:14:48 PM
Hi
In 4 yrs on fenugreek and PhytoEstrogen what changes and how much of a change have you seen. I started both along with sawgrass pimento about 60 day's ago.
Aj
Aj,
If you really want to see great progress with Phytoestrogens, perhaps Devlyn will comment.
It is likely that Devlyn will see this post and will make a post.
For me, I have seen some nice changes, but it is not like what many people realize when they are on pharmaceutical hrt with estrogen over a four plus years timeframe.
But over time, I have noticed modest breast growth, from a basic male flat to B, some hip and butt area growth, and curvature on thighs without weight gain; softer skin, head hair improvement, and less body hair. Besides Finesteride, I simply eat a lot of soy, legumes, and fennel, but I like to eat that. I am unsure what caused those changes, Finesteride helps with male pattern baldness, and it may help in other ways. It is hard to say if soy or which other specific phytoestrogen caused these changes. It could just be my body's chemistry.
I have not used any of the bad phytoestrogenic herbs that this site advises that no one uses or even talks about here. While herbal pill or liquid form phytoestrogens may also be helpful, all of that stuff can be costly, so I do not use things like Fenugreek regularly but at times I will buy some items like that when there is a spectacular sale.
At least what I eat tastes good and it is real food, therefore in my mind that food is worth spending money on.
I would make sure that the amount of any herb you take is not going to interfere with medicines you take, so ask your physician and also a pharmacist if any of the herbs you wish to use or even foods such as soy would cause you medical problems or are unwise to use with your medicines. That would be a very wise thing to do, I asked.
Be aware that your results may differ widely from others. Phytoestrogens are a weak form of estrogen. They may not help at all. They may have other health benefits, they may cause medical harm to some.
I may be reducing my consumption of phytoestrogens as they do bind to estrogen receptors. This may make my future medically supervised pharmaceutical estrogen less effective by not being as free to bind to estrogen receptors.
I am clearly a woman in my mind and I want my body to be more reflective of that than what I see when I look at my body, so a medicially supervised hrt with estrogen program seems like what is needed to help in that regard.
Chrissy
Thank you for the reply. I do take meds and from reading all the herbs that I am using help with my a1c and my cholesterol my thinning hair and my having go pee 4 or more times to at night.
I hope that Devlin adds to what you told me.
AJ
I'm the poster girl for herbal supplements! This is a picture that I took before I switched to doctor supervised HRT.
(https://www.susans.org/forums/gallery/0/59100-150618115137.jpeg)
I believe a doctor is the smart way to go, but in my case, insurance wasn't available (the much vaunted Obamacare doesn't cover single white guys with a job). If you use supplements, do your homework, be safe.
Hugs, Devlyn
Quote from: Devlyn on November 28, 2018, 01:20:05 AM
I'm the poster girl for herbal supplements! This is a picture that I took before I switched to doctor supervised HRT.
(https://www.susans.org/forums/gallery/0/59100-150618115137.jpeg)
I believe a doctor is the smart way to go, but in my case, insurance wasn't available (the much vaunted Obamacare doesn't cover single white guys with a job). If you use supplements, do your homework, be safe.
Hugs, Devlyn
You look great Devlyn and i love those boots
If you can't accept yourself, how can you expect others to accept you?
Quote from: Arianna Valentine on November 28, 2018, 01:55:09 AM
You look great Devlyn and I love those boots.
Thanks, doll! I love them, too. I get a lot of compliments on them. :)
Hugs, Devlyn
Devlyn,
THANK YOU for the reply.
I would be happy if I could have the same results as you on the herbal treatments.
I am using the fenugreek,saw palmetto ,Mexican wild yam,phytoestrogen complex.
I have budding under my nipples and extra fat building up on my breasts. Oh did I mention they sure the He ll are tender. I went from flat to a small hand full. I think maybe A size.
AJ
I also love the boots you are rocking them my dear.
Quote from: Devlyn on November 28, 2018, 01:20:05 AM
I'm the poster girl for herbal supplements! This is a picture that I took before I switched to doctor supervised HRT.
(https://www.susans.org/forums/gallery/0/59100-150618115137.jpeg)
I believe a doctor is the smart way to go, but in my case, insurance wasn't available (the much vaunted Obamacare doesn't cover single white guys with a job). If you use supplements, do your homework, be safe.
Hugs, Devlyn
Looking good!
I've read that the herbal supplements are a mixed bag for results. Some people just don't get any feminization. Could you elaborate on what you used and how long it took? I don't know if this is allowed per forum rules, if not then just say what you can.
Quote from: GordonG on November 28, 2018, 01:23:27 PM
Looking good!
I've read that the herbal supplements are a mixed bag for results. Some people just don't get any feminization. Could you elaborate on what you used and how long it took? I don't know if this is allowed per forum rules, if not then just say what you can.
Definitely against the rules (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,133675.0.html). ;) I looked on breast enlargement forums and bought mine on eBay. I used them for about three years.
Hugs, Devlyn
I am still self-conscious about the occasional stares which seem like x-rays scanning me.
Sometimes I look back to see their facial expressions.
Chrissy
I like that I am doing something that is completely for me and me alone. I've sacrificed many things in life and now I can finally transition.
I would like to buy some nice, quality clothes, but I really do not want to pay for them knowing that my body is going to change. Apparently, my E is really low (US 15) so Spiro is doing all the work until I get my dose up.
Quote from: GingerVicki on December 18, 2018, 06:33:38 PM
I like that I am doing something that is completely for me and me alone. I've sacrificed many things in life and now I can finally transition.
I would like to buy some nice, quality clothes, but I really do not want to pay for them knowing that my body is going to change. Apparently, my E is really low (US 15) so Spiro is doing all the work until I get my dose up.
Good things are worth waiting for! :) You will have some nice clothes, I am sure.
Chrissy
What I love most
Just being a girl.. I love heels, makeup and just being girly. Girls clothes are so fun and have so much choice. I love I can be me.. a girly girl who loves looking pretty. Oh yes I love my breasts
What I Hate most
Well boob sweat.. I have D cup breasts. Hot days they do sweat. I miss being able to walk without a top on a hot day. On very warm days I wear a bikini top as my top.