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Title: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: NightAngel on February 23, 2006, 08:05:05 AM
Hello! :icon_wave:

I'm so glad that I found that site!!
About me ... I'm 38 years and I definitely know what I am. A transexual from man into woman.
I dressing womans cloths almost 33 years, from when I was 5th or 6th years old. I always knew that something not as it should be, but didn't know what, until I was almost 18 years old and in one magazin was a girl and her story about changing the gender.From that moment I was knew who I am,(I was and I still am proud on that) why I feel different all that time and why I have such a strong desire to wearing womans cloths all that time.
Was almost married three times, now I'm glad that I didn't, because it wouldn't go out.
I got two sisters and parents - this is the part where it comes the hardest thing in my life, HOW to tell them what I feeling, what I am, how? I don't won't to hurt them,my father is proud on me ... I don't lie to my self, I know what I am and what I wanna be but I keep lie to my family and friends. It's soooooo hard to tell the truth to the family.  :icon_sadblinky:
By the way, I'm from Europe, please forgive me my mistakes in english and you can call me Michelle  :) if you want.

Thanks,

Michelle

Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: Andre on February 23, 2006, 08:20:08 AM
Hey Michelle!Welcome to Susan's!Yeah it's hard to tell parents..BIG step..try to prepare them slowly..change clothes gradually..let them figure out.

Don't worry about your English btw I'm from Europe too-Serbia.
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: KelliTGirl on February 23, 2006, 08:46:10 AM
Michelle,

Welcome to Susans and thank you for sharing with us. You'll find alot of very supportive and helpful people here, many who have traveled the same road.


Welcome again!! :) ;) :D ;D


--Kelli
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: Owen on February 23, 2006, 01:03:39 PM
Hi Michelle and welcom, I am also new here myself. Breaking the news to parents will be a tough thing to be shure. I live with my mom and have been dressing in womens clothes on and off for close to 30 years. I always had this feeling of being more feminine than masculine although the later gender is what I have been in for most of my life. I've been in the closet with this for a long time. Only now it's come out for me. My mom sorta found out that I was looking around about MTF operations. She wasnt to happy to say the least so for now I might have to stay in the closet untill I can find somewere esle to live. I love my mom and wouldn't want to hurt her.
So for now I can only fantasize about it. Good luck on your journey. I know I will.


Owen
love being female
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: CarolC Oz Girl on February 23, 2006, 03:10:12 PM
Hi Michelle

You do not have to take this trip alone you have lots of support here, I am new here myself and hace found great confort already.

I live full time female and when I came to this decision I lost all my friends but one, maybe there is a change to fix the others, my ex wife will have nothing to do with me, so take heart you are not alone.

Love


Caroline

xxxxxxx
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: NightAngel on February 23, 2006, 03:40:28 PM
Thanks to all for warm Welcome!!

@ Andre, I'm glad that I'm not the only one from the Europe and I think that this is actualy good idea ... too prepare them slowely and change clothes gradually..let them figure out ... (Thank you), also I noticed a few members from Germany too  :) .


@ Kelli,yes I believe that I found the right place for me on the net,with a lots of very helpful information and people who are really care about each other, I feel something like we are a big family.


@ Owen, Hi and Welcome Owen!!
Feminine, yes that's it ... I had the same feeling all the time, at home, in school etc ... until I seen that story in the magazine.
About moms, my mom twice time founded my secret place full of bras,panties,nylons,minnie skirts even my shous, first time was shocking and asking me totaly wrong questions and at the end taking everything and thrown away.
The second time, when she founded again all my lingerie with lipsticks,mascara, nails etc ... she wasn't schocked anymore, she just '' borrowed ''  :) some lipsticks .
So, I guess, mother wouldn't be such a huge problem, but father and sisters, who will tell them?? I'm to scared ... Right now I live one floor higher than my parents, but they got keys from my appartment and mother sometimes need to '' cleaning '' when I'm at work and she's better than FBI & KGB together  :) .
She founded pantyhose many times (I love to wear them under my jeans), here or there some piece of my lingerie etc ...
I have also asked about MTF operations, just like you!!! and yes they doing them here, on the clinic, but first I need to go to psychiatrist to make some test, than if everything okay I need to start dressing like a woman daily, two years (even on the work) in a meanwhile they start with hormons and other things and after that time to operation.That was short version  ;) ...
Isn't nice to have all that information a few years already but nothing to do about parents?

QuoteSo for now I can only fantasize about it.
just like me, Owen,just like me.
and Good luck on your journey too!!


@ Caroline, You live a full time as a female? Oh God, you lucky girl!!!!
This is my dream, to live like you, a full time as a girl, no secrets anymore, nothing ... friends?Don't bother with them, they was not worthy you, If I was one of them, I would be very PROUD on you, to have you as a friend.

Take care,

Thanks,

cya  :icon_wave:

Michelle
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: Cassandra on February 23, 2006, 03:52:56 PM
Hi Michelle,

Welcome to Susan's. You have come to the right place for support information and advice. We are a pretty friendly bunch here and you will make lots of new friends. Many like you have been down this road of how to tell family and loved ones. You should read thier posts, you will find them very helpful and insiteful. Don't worry about the english so much. We have few people here from Europe. Be sure to check out the WIKI there is lots more information as well. So fix yourself a cup of tea or other relaxing beverage, sit down, take your shoes off and set a spell.

Good Journey,

Cassie
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: Sara on February 23, 2006, 03:55:36 PM
Hi Michelle, Welcome to Susans. Hope you find what you are looking for.

Sara.
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: Jillieann Rose on February 23, 2006, 04:22:13 PM
Hello Michelle,
I'm a late bloomer, or maybe you would call it thick headed. Anyway it took me over 50 years a wife 3 children 4 grandchildren to figure out that I was trangender. To know at such a young age is a blessing. Yes it is hard to tell your parents but what if you had a family like I have. Do you or don't you tell?  My wife knows and is still adjust to it.
There more to beening a woman than cloths and body. It what inside, that what really is important.
Relax and take small step right now you have a most of your life still in font of you.

Glade to meet you.
:)
Jillieann
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: NightAngel on February 23, 2006, 04:33:41 PM
Hi Mrs. Cassie,

Thank you for the Welcome.
I know that I'm on the right place for the informations I looking for, also I noticed that pretty friendly relationship you got here, almost something like a big family.About english, you know how it is by 38 years, pretty much learned from the movies, something from the books and that's it.Definitely will check the WIKI and the expiriences from all others,because I got some questions to ask (about breasts) etc ... but maybe I will found answer before I ask.
Cup of tea will do fine and one pill of Aspirine for my headache and then I go in bed.

Thank you mrs. Cassie





@ Sara  Hi, I'm sure I will, my 17 years niece is also name Sara, nice name!

Thank you




@ Jillieann Hi dear,

No,no you're not a late bloomer, you got 3 children and 4 grandchildrens, that's a blessing.I want my own children but as you mentioned ... I couldn't tell my wife. I'm scared to tell my family and I could imagine how hard it must be for you.
QuoteThere more to beening a woman than cloths and body. It what inside, that what really is important.

Agreed with you, I feel like a woman in every way I could, at the start I thought, maybe it will go, if I wouldn't dressing like a woman but it isn't go away.I don't need to be dressing like a woman every day, but I still feel like a woman.

Nice to meet you dear Jillieann :)

cya

Michelle
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: stephanie_craxford on February 23, 2006, 07:29:15 PM
Hello Michelle,

Let me add my welcome to the others, and please forgive my English as I'm from Canada :)  Just kidding, you never have to ask for forgiveness here.  Enjoy the site, use us and all the resources here as much as you like.  We are here to help in any way that we can, and we hope that you contribute to the site as well.  Everyone's life and experiences are important so don't be afraid to contribute where you can.

I'm sure that we will chat later :)

Steph
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: HelenW on February 23, 2006, 08:39:54 PM
Greetings, Michelle, and Welcome!

This is a wonderful place for answers and advice and support.  I am very happy that you could join us.  I love the fact that this is an international site, we get comments and opinions from many cultures that way.

Telling parents is very hard to do.  I am in the process of telling my mom slowly, first by telling her that I am going to therapy but not saying why.  My father passed away 11 years ago.  He was one of the big reasons I pushed myself down for so long.

I will look forward to reading more from you and am happy to again say,

WELCOME!
helen
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: NightAngel on February 24, 2006, 08:05:44 AM
Hello Mrs. Stephanie,

and Thank you for your Canadian Welcome  :D,
I already start to exploring all over the place and you can be sure that I will contribute wherever I can on many ways, not only with my expiriences. Already on my first day here, I found this very sad story about Terri-Gene  :'( , and I agreed with you
QuoteEveryone's life and experiences are important
and if I understood, she need a laptop and as I don't have PayPal account it would be smart to used Jillieanns proposal
QuoteYes get a post office box than we can help fund the laptop.
.
So, please, if you mrs. Stephanie or Hazmat send me P.O.Box adresse on my PM (If I got one, lol ... still didn't found the way, how to send PM to the others) or on my e-mail.Thank you.About PM, just get an explanation, Thank you Kimberly!

by the way ... I really know one girl from the Canada, she's married,mother of one etc ... no, I didn't tell her about me, the truth , yeah I know ... shame on me :icon_redface: ... it would be much easier if the people would accepted as the way we are, but no ...

Thank you mrs. Stephanie,

cya






Hi Helen,

and thank you for your WELCOME!!
I'm also very very happy that I joined Susan's place from all others on the net, I think is this the best site ever created for us. At first when I still didn't joined, I thought that site maybe created only for american/canadian area but after I start reading the sites I found that it's really an international site and than my pulse jump to the sky, my heart start working faster and I joined immediately  :) . I found my new home, full of people who understand me and my problems!
Sorry to hear about your dad, but on the other hand, you could tell your mom a little easier, slowely and careful.I don't know what to do, maybe I'll also wait so long, as you did.The hardest will be telling parents, sisters are not such a problem, one is merried out of the country in (Suisse), the other living near us (also merried and one children) .Dad is the hardest, should I tell him that he got three dothers and no son, this would probably killed him in this very moment.
Well, will go to read another storys, how the rest of you telling your parents.

Thank you dear Helen!!
Ich wünsche dich auch: Freude und Frieden  :icon_yes:

cya

Michelle
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: Kimberly on February 24, 2006, 08:36:23 AM
I have somewhat of a special situation, but my Father was the second person I told. (Fiancée being the first). Who I've lagged behind telling was my father's mother, I've finally told her just shy of 6months on HRT. I tend to wish I had told her sooner but I am not unhappy with the way things have worked out for me in this regard.

Anyway, I tend to think that it is really quite dependent on your family as who is best/hardest and so on to tell. For that matter how and what to tell depends greatly on the people also, I think.

There is a A Guide to Coming out to Family (https://www.susans.org/wiki/A_Guide_to_Coming_out_to_Family) present in the wiki which may be of help.

I wish you luck Michelle (=
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: Peggiann on February 24, 2006, 09:52:04 AM
Hi Michelle,
I had been out of town yesterday but was pleasently surprised to see your post, after our visit in  Chat. Glad you found your way into the forums and I look forword to reading your post in them.

As you can see these wonderful people are just what I told you in chat, warm and friendly and very caring and always willing to help be it lending an ear or sharing their opinon. They are the greatest.

Enjoy yourself here and I'll see you in Chat again soon.

Smiles,
Peggiann
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: NightAngel on February 24, 2006, 10:50:36 AM
Hi Kimberly,

I'm very glad that things have worked out so good for you  :icon_wink: .
Yes it does depend from that very much, mother would probably accepted me, also sisters but father ... I'm affraid, that he would never accepted me as a girl  :icon_no: .
Thank you for the link A Guide to Coming out to Family, hopefuly will found some or another way to tell them.

Thank you  :)

cya


Michelle








Hi Peggiann,

I'm sorry but I must to disappoint you but I'm not the same Michelle, the one with who you chated :icon_redface: .
I just yesterday found Susan's place and joined, I'm sorry dear Peggiann, I hope that she will still came.
But you are wright in everything else !!!
These people are:
Quotewonderful people are just what I told you in chat, warm and friendly and very caring and always willing to help be it lending an ear or sharing their opinon. They are the greatest.
. :icon_yes: :icon_yes: :icon_yes:

Thank you any way,

cya

Michelle
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: melissa_girl on February 24, 2006, 10:50:42 AM
Welcome to Susans NightAngel.  I am very happy that you are able to find us.

Melissa
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: NightAngel on February 24, 2006, 05:14:14 PM
Hi Melissa,

and thank you  :) , yes I am very happy that I found this place,it's look so peaceful here, so nice ... I was on many other (mixed) forums before and boys have always wright, if I start to proving them that I'm wright and not they, than topics will be soon longer than 8 sites ... specially this last forum where I was (Lineage2World), this was the worst forum ever,just a few girls with me  :) and few 1000 guys , it wasn't easy against them  :) ...

Thank you,

cya

Michelle
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: melissa_girl on February 24, 2006, 05:45:26 PM
That's your problem.  Girls don't fight boys, they manipulate them.

Melissa
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: Kate Thomas on February 25, 2006, 04:25:50 AM
Hi Michelle
Its great to se that you have alredy made your self right at home! I am very happy that you joined us.
hugs :-*
Kate
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: Shelley on February 25, 2006, 05:18:10 AM
Hi Michelle,

Welcome to Susan's I hope you enjoy your time here with us. You will find that Susan's is full of people with helpful advise and caring attitudes. As to coming out I think that you need to ask yourself if they need to know. Obviously close members of family would fall into that category particularly if your going to transition.

A number of people here have found that a letter is a good way to get it all out in one hit and that it gives the recipient of your information time to adjust to the news. Honesty does apear to be the most important aspect of telling others as is an explanation of how you feel and what you have experienced to get to where you are now. 

Hope this helps.

Shelley
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: NightAngel on February 27, 2006, 05:07:24 PM
Hi Melissa
QuoteGirls don't fight boys, they manipulate them.

Melissa

Manipulating boys, that's something what I need to learn first, but I will give everything from myself to do so, it's a better way than fight against them, I know  :) .

cya



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Hi KateAlice,

yes I did  :D , I feel right at home, here at Susan's.I hope it's nothing wrong with that ...
Thank you for your Welcome!!
hugs  :-*

Michelle




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Hi Shelley,

I do enjoy here at Susan's, especially now when we got a new candidate for the president of the states.
I'm not the citizen of the US unfortunately but I would voted for Cassandra Anna Hefton  if I could.Still didn't read everything about her.
Yes, I would like to go to the end, to transition, but the parents  :-\ ... will see how the rest of you did it, still need many things to read, to inform myself with every information I can get and than will see how to tell them.

QuoteA number of people here have found that a letter is a good way to get it all out in one hit and that it gives the recipient of your information time to adjust to the news. Honesty does apear to be the most important aspect of telling others as is an explanation of how you feel and what you have experienced to get to where you are now.

This is very good way indeed, thank you Shelley, you know that it helps any kind of informations like this one.

Thank you for your Welcome too!!

p.s. sorry because I late with answers but my PC die last friday ... lol ...

cya

Michelle









Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: Terri-Gene on February 27, 2006, 11:38:14 PM
Hello Night Angle,

Nice to see you kicking in here so quickly.  Don't fret to much about gender confusion and worrying so much about gender confusion.  I started rather young in age then backed out of it for about 3 decades by going complete total male to the full extent and then folding back on myself again.  It became a necessity.

My family already knew, but I simply began to reprossess myself to them, they thought I had reverted to male.  I simply let my appearance drag along behind me until my wardrobe caught up with me again and then simply switched into full time projection.

It was a bit of a challenge for sometime but I found I was big enough to handle it and I always seemed to come through, both personally and professionally.  It was a shock to most of course, but eventually all seemed to catch on after a bit and I began to obtain obseptance, both at work and personally.

It would seem that if you are truely serious then it will fall from the internal stream out to them.  So much the merrier.  Just make sure you never seem to be in doubt.  It is even getting to where I no longer have to be apprehensive or merrier to get it across to them, they just seem to accept it.

It's all up to you Night Angle, just how quickly you want to get it done.  A little rough for some a little light for others, but if you are going with it, just carve your own picture.  Eventually they will get most of it pretty quickly.

Your daughters will adapt to you fine, all four of mine, 23 to 35 in age and my son ... he's retarted but accepted as well.  It's been harder for my wife, but it generally is, but she is accepting me well.  I haven't spoken to my mother in years and she is still repeating it to be a necessity of some kind, but the psychs all agree that all I need it the money and it will be a done deal.

Not sure yet when I will be going back to work, but when I find the money I need I'm home free.  I hope you will find it just as easily.

Plan it up
plan it out
pull up the anchor
live your life

Terri
Title: Re: Greetings everyone!!
Post by: NightAngel on February 28, 2006, 10:50:48 AM

Hello Dear Stainless-Steel Woman - Terri Gene,

Not me, it's nice to see that you kicking here so quickly!!!!
The only problems by me is that I afraid to tell that to my parents, mostly father, he will never understand or accepted me as a daughter ... he was always proud that he got at least one son and two daughters  ...  well actually he got three daughters, just he don't know yet  :) ...
I'm in NO doubt about what I want, don't worry.I saw story in some magazin about Transsexuals first time when I was almost 18 years and at the same moment I knew what I am and what I want in my life ,it's more than 20 years from than now and I still want 100% change from MTF.No doubt about that.I travel, quite a lot and when I see all those womans ... I don't know, I would cry days, if I could ... why, I'm not one of them, why? 
It would be the best to just moved to another city and there start on fresh, but you know how it is about jobs, everywhere the same, in the states and europe ... thank God I'm not married, I believe that it was even harder for you and your wife, but you manage , Congratulations !!!
Thank you Dear Terri Gene!!

Plan it up
plan it out
pull up the anchor
live your life

Terri

Thank you for your Welcome and your advices!!

Best wishes from me  :icon_flower:

Michelle  :icon_wave: