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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Topic started by: Nero on January 16, 2008, 10:46:12 AM

Title: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Nero on January 16, 2008, 10:46:12 AM
Now don't misunderstand Nero here, please no pissing matches about there being no difference.
And I mean other than the obvious body/mismatch struggle.

With me, I am not used to being thwarted in sexual matters. I'm used to having my way.

Another thing is - I've played the female card for all it was worth... and then some. Which is why I've never been 'on the inside'.

So, what about you?
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: zombiesarepeaceful on January 16, 2008, 12:11:20 PM
Me versus my bio male peers:

Uh......
Uhm...I....

Don't know. I was never really different from the males, only shunned by females for being nothing like them in personality, tastes, or appearance, and shunned by the males for being genetically...yeah....

So to answer your question, nothing much. I'm just slightly less of an ->-bleeped-<- (not implying that bio males are ->-bleeped-<-s, but some are, especially teenage boys).
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Shana A on January 16, 2008, 01:10:48 PM
Quote from: Nero on January 16, 2008, 10:46:12 AM
So, what about you?

I think about gender/transgender topic incessantly, most non trans or non queer males don't appear to think about their gender at all. I also spend lots of time on trans forums, and cis people don't  ;)

y2g
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: shanetastic on January 17, 2008, 12:59:01 PM
I'm taller than 99% of them :P
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Dennis on January 17, 2008, 01:48:27 PM
Heh, and I'm shorter than a whole lot of them. I think awareness of gender and gender differences makes me different from a lot, although not all cis guys. I can see women being treated as lesser citizens because of gender where a lot of guys don't see it.

Dennis
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Patroklos on January 17, 2008, 02:27:37 PM
I talk too much.

My bio-male friends always roll their eyes at me because I can't ever seem to stop talking. XD
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Terra on January 17, 2008, 04:20:19 PM
Um, I have no self confidence. Not like most women I know. :(
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: cindybc on January 17, 2008, 04:53:25 PM
Hi Milo, join the club, I think I even talk when I'm sleeping. As for height comparison to GG's I guess I just got lucky I am shorter to about 75% of GG's. Ya that was something i use to get razes about by other male kids in public school.

Cindy
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: shanetastic on January 17, 2008, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: Angel on January 17, 2008, 04:20:19 PM
Um, I have no self confidence. Not like most women I know. :(

Determining from that photo I saw earlier Angel, you should! :)

Posted on: January 17, 2008, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: cindybc on January 17, 2008, 04:53:25 PM
Hi Milo, join the club, I think I even talk when I'm sleeping. As for height comparison to GG's I guess I just got lucky I am shorter to about 75% of GG's. Ya that was something i use to get razes about by other male kids in public school.

Cindy

Dang all you short people too cindy! haha.
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Christo on January 18, 2008, 12:23:27 AM
Quote from: Nero on January 16, 2008, 10:46:12 AM
I've never been 'on the inside'.


Dunno about that.  I dont like the word "never" :laugh:. maybe u cant be on the inside w/one part but you got other parts that can do the job right? ;)
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: buttercup on January 18, 2008, 12:40:12 AM
Little women can twist men round their little finger!  The petite ones have got it made, lol.
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: cindybc on January 18, 2008, 01:06:43 AM
Well I know a few Amazonian ladies here and I think they look magnificent. I have even seen some that were taller then Wing Walker.

As for me, well I think I'm going to have to shrink quite a lot if I want to be a fairy in the next dimension. ;D

Cindy
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Nero on January 18, 2008, 01:34:32 AM
Quote from: Chris on January 18, 2008, 12:23:27 AM
Quote from: Nero on January 16, 2008, 10:46:12 AM
I've never been 'on the inside'.


Dunno about that.  I dont like the word "never" :laugh:. maybe u cant be on the inside w/one part but you got other parts that can do the job right? ;)

umm was talking about the inside as opposed to 'the outside'. not a sexual reference. and look where Chris' mind automatically goes. >:D
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: cindybc on January 18, 2008, 01:38:27 AM
And I can outdance most men too.

Cindy
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Wing Walker on January 18, 2008, 02:01:38 AM
Nero, to what blog do you subscribe to get these questions?

I *always* take the woman's side in any controversy.  All of my medical care is done by women, including my dentist.  I know that it is quite possible that I can be done dirt by another woman and that a man will never get close enough to me to do that because I refuse to allow that to happen.

I had three marriages to three women who trashed my love and caring yet I will automatically side with a woman.  I have a hunch that when I meet a man who has also transitioned, I will have a friend that I can trust.

BTW, will ***someone*** please confirm for me that the term "cisgendered" means the same as "natal female?"

Wing Walker


Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: shanetastic on January 18, 2008, 02:14:24 AM
Quote from: Wing Walker on January 18, 2008, 02:01:38 AM

BTW, will ***someone*** please confirm for me that the term "cisgendered" means the same as "natal female?"






I believe it does Wing Walker. 
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Nero on January 18, 2008, 02:37:39 AM
Quote from: shanetastic on January 18, 2008, 02:14:24 AM
Quote from: Wing Walker on January 18, 2008, 02:01:38 AM

BTW, will ***someone*** please confirm for me that the term "cisgendered" means the same as "natal female?"






I believe it does Wing Walker. 

Yep, it does.

So Wing Walker, do you mean this has given you some sort of aversion to men?
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Wing Walker on January 18, 2008, 03:17:37 AM
Quote from: Nero on January 18, 2008, 02:37:39 AM
Quote from: shanetastic on January 18, 2008, 02:14:24 AM
Quote from: Wing Walker on January 18, 2008, 02:01:38 AM

BTW, will ***someone*** please confirm for me that the term "cisgendered" means the same as "natal female?"


I believe it does Wing Walker. 

Yep, it does.

So Wing Walker, do you mean this has given you some sort of aversion to men?

Nope, I have no aversion to men, Nero.  I just have a preference towards women and tend to sympathize with them.

Neither gender has an easy life but I know more single moms who are still hoping for the first support check.

I also see more women showing signs of violence inflicted on them by men.

Sexual and gender harassment are more often visited upon women than on men.

No aversion but I know who believes that they have the power and, "Power never conceded anything without a demand."  The quote is from Frederick Douglass.

In the beginning I did have an aversion toward men.  It was men who made women miserable more often than the other way around.  When I showed up at work I had a wonderful day of acceptance by other women at the office.  The men avoided me and tossed me pleasant smiles --- NOT!

I have moderated much of what I originally felt about men but I continue to read "Back Off!", my handbook of how to spot and handle sexual and gender harassment.

Nope, no aversion, Nero.  I don't look away from anyone but I don't look for a fight, either.

Does this make sense to you?

Wing Walker
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Nero on January 18, 2008, 03:36:04 AM
Quote from: Wing Walker on January 18, 2008, 03:17:37 AM
Quote from: Nero on January 18, 2008, 02:37:39 AM
Quote from: shanetastic on January 18, 2008, 02:14:24 AM
Quote from: Wing Walker on January 18, 2008, 02:01:38 AM

BTW, will ***someone*** please confirm for me that the term "cisgendered" means the same as "natal female?"


I believe it does Wing Walker. 

Yep, it does.

So Wing Walker, do you mean this has given you some sort of aversion to men?

Nope, I have no aversion to men, Nero.  I just have a preference towards women and tend to sympathize with them.

Neither gender has an easy life but I know more single moms who are still hoping for the first support check.

I also see more women showing signs of violence inflicted on them by men.

Sexual and gender harassment are more often visited upon women than on men.

No aversion but I know who believes that they have the power and, "Power never conceded anything without a demand."  The quote is from Frederick Douglass.

In the beginning I did have an aversion toward men.  It was men who made women miserable more often than the other way around.  When I showed up at work I had a wonderful day of acceptance by other women at the office.  The men avoided me and tossed me pleasant smiles --- NOT!

I have moderated much of what I originally felt about men but I continue to read "Back Off!", my handbook of how to spot and handle sexual and gender harassment.

Nope, no aversion, Nero.  I don't look away from anyone but I don't look for a fight, either.

Does this make sense to you?

Wing Walker

Yep. I don't have an aversion to women but sort of an intimidation factor. It sounds funny really.
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Rachael on January 18, 2008, 04:08:54 AM
Thankfully i bear no emotional scars, or prejudices to anyone.
The current only difference between my peers and me, is that i have a penis, and they have correct genetals...
emotionally, phyisically, and socially i am the same. but one small thing retails my title as 'man/freak/heshe' :(

personally i think its wrong to hate men, or women for any reason based on steriotype, or one rotten apple. Treat every person as a potential friend, and your life will be more fulfilling than you can imagine.
R :police:
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: cindybc on January 18, 2008, 04:27:24 AM
Sorry, wasn't aware I strayed off topic.

Cindy
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Rachael on January 18, 2008, 04:37:17 AM
you do realise lone men are more likely to be attacked than lone women?

plus, rape has little bearing on this topic, were as vulnerable to that as any woman, only were more likely to be killed in dissapointment/disgust...
R :police:
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Nero on January 18, 2008, 04:39:37 AM
Quote from: Rachael on January 18, 2008, 04:08:54 AM
Thankfully i bear no emotional scars, or prejudices to anyone.
The current only difference between my peers and me, is that i have a penis, and they have correct genetals...
emotionally, phyisically, and socially i am the same. but one small thing retails my title as 'man/freak/heshe' :(

personally i think its wrong to hate men, or women for any reason based on steriotype, or one rotten apple. Treat every person as a potential friend, and your life will be more fulfilling than you can imagine.
R :police:

On no hatred, no prejudice - just intimidation of females. But you ladies are easing that for me.
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Emerald on January 18, 2008, 06:38:55 AM
Quote from: Nero on January 18, 2008, 02:37:39 AM
Quote from: shanetastic on January 18, 2008, 02:14:24 AM
Quote from: Wing Walker on January 18, 2008, 02:01:38 AM

BTW, will ***someone*** please confirm for me that the term "cisgendered" means the same as "natal female?"


I believe it does Wing Walker. 

Yep, it does.


Negative, Wing Walker, the term "cisgendered" does not mean the same as "natal female".

Cisgendered = Not transgendered. Gender identity matches the natal sex.
Natal female = Born female. Physiologically female at birth.

An FtM is a natal female, but he's not cisgender.
I'm a natal female, but I'm not cisgender either.

Natal female + female gender identity = cisgender.
Natal male + male gender identity = cisgender.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cisgender

-Emerald  :icon_mrgreen:
Title: Re: What about you is different from cisgender members of your gender?
Post by: Rachael on January 18, 2008, 07:50:38 AM
emeralds on the money there :)

i personally hate the term 'GG' as either genetic girl, or 'genuine girl' its so.... ->-bleeped-<-.....

the community sure has some bizare phrases :P
R >:D