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Title: Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent (commentary)
Post by: Natasha on January 21, 2008, 10:18:08 AM
Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent (commentary)

Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/a-1170691~Under_Real_ID__privacy_will_be_nonexistent.html)
by Melanie Scarborough, The Examiner
01/21/2008

Welcome to Amerika. With its recent issuance of rules for implementing the "Real ID" law - the requirement that states issue driver's licenses according to federal dictates and link the information to a nationwide database - the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has taken another page from the Soviets' playbook. Stalin required Russian citizens to carry an internal passport ostensibly because "counterrevolutionaries" posed a threat. Amerikans will be required to show their papers to prove they aren't terrorists or illegal immigrants.

Title: Re: Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent (commentary)
Post by: tekla on January 21, 2008, 11:50:49 AM
and that's just the beginning. 
Title: Re: Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent (commentary)
Post by: NicholeW. on January 21, 2008, 03:22:41 PM
O, I think its much more than the beginning. The beginning was the fear that has been indoctrinated thoroughly since 1945. This is the middle.


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Title: Re: Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent (commentary)
Post by: tekla on January 21, 2008, 03:32:59 PM
True that, it began with the fear needed to keep a standing army in peacetime, in direct violation of the Constitution.  A little Military-Industrial Complex anyone?
Title: Re: Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent (commentary)
Post by: VeryGnawty on January 21, 2008, 11:06:27 PM
Yet another blatant violation of the "innocent until proven guilty" concept.

Give it another century, and everyone will be guilty until proven innocent.
Title: Re: Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent (commentary)
Post by: tekla on January 21, 2008, 11:10:17 PM
I don't think it will take that long, after all, what's a drug test except you proving your innocent?
Title: Re: Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent (commentary)
Post by: VeryGnawty on January 22, 2008, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: tekla on January 21, 2008, 11:10:17 PM
I don't think it will take that long, after all, what's a drug test except you proving your innocent?

I was debating that on another site, actually.  Drug test is a classic example of guilty until proven innocent.

Did you see the Mythbusters episode where they tested false positives on drug tests?  Jamie ate two poppyseed bagels and tested positive for morphine in his urine.  And I was reading on Snopes that several police officers were suspended for false positives on drug tests.

I find it ironic that police officers, the people who should have the most moral integrity, are guilty until proven innocent.  And the only thing they were guilty of is eating a few poppy seeds!
Title: Re: Under Real ID, privacy will be nonexistent (commentary)
Post by: kalt on January 22, 2008, 01:14:05 PM
Quote from: tekla on January 21, 2008, 03:32:59 PM
True that, it began with the fear needed to keep a standing army in peacetime, in direct violation of the Constitution.  A little Military-Industrial Complex anyone?
By definition, a government requires a military.

Furthermore, our military is 100% volunteered.