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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 04:53:45 PM

Title: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 04:53:45 PM
Hey guys, good to talk to yall again.  I hope all is well.

So, I'm pre-T for all of you who don't know.  My boyfriend knows that I am a bio-female and he is cool with it  :) however, his friends think that I'm a bio-male.  He wants to show me to his friends and family back home.  I need to know, HONESTLY, do I pass?

I created this PhotoBucket account just for this. Here is the link.

http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj190/BradyWady7/

If it asks for a password, it's brady.  I would say the easiest way to see the pictures is to click on the first one, then after that you can keep pushing next.  Thanks all :)

Which pictures look most masculine?

How does my chest look?  Sports bra and tri top binder....


Thanks :)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 05:12:44 PM
I darkened them a little bit, but not much, at least I thought lol
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Patroklos on January 21, 2008, 05:13:03 PM
Honestly, if you pass in person, you're going to appear terribly young. You've got very fine bones and very smooth skin. A very pretty face, really. =D

Actually, generally, I would say that probably your voice and mannerisms will be the biggest indicators. If you have a relatively male-sounding voice and the generally "masculine" mannerisms, you'll do great. If not, you might be reaching.

I'm also pre-T and don't pass at all, due to my voice. I look about as male as I can, all things considered, but once I open my mouth I get "ma'am"ed consistently.

The chest looks fine. Nothing obvious. As far as "most masculine", I would say the second and third pictures take the cake.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Natasha on January 21, 2008, 05:16:12 PM
do you want honesty?  you seem very young on those pics.  if i had to guess, i'd say you are 12 or 13 (something tells me you are older than that ;).  maybe gaining some muscle and a little bit of weight might help you look older.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 05:16:36 PM
Do my eyebrows look weird? lol got a comment about them....
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Autumn on January 21, 2008, 05:21:49 PM
Sweetie you look like a dork with the hat backwards.
Like she said, your brows are strange. I mean it's hard to tell from the photos there since they're black and white and grainy but you might have done too much. Keep your lips closed for pictures and in general, it looks more feminine to me.

I can't tell if that's a low cut tank top under your jacket, or what, but i'd stick with crew neck shirts.

But you're very pretty - you look like a young guy who hasn't had much testosterone yet (well duh  >:D)
They may say he's robbing the cradle.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Natasha on January 21, 2008, 05:23:32 PM
Quote from: Brady on January 21, 2008, 05:16:36 PM
Do my eyebrows look weird? lol got a comment about them....

weird as in feminine?  just tell them you're metrosexual, that'll shut them up ;)  i honestly dont see anything wrong with your eyebrows (but i'm not a guy & i don't mind men that are well-groomed);  i think you need honest answers from the guys on here.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Patroklos on January 21, 2008, 05:24:12 PM
Not to me. XD

Honestly, guys don't pay attention to eyebrows. lol
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 05:30:59 PM
lol well, my boyfriend says I have "girly eyebrows" and he doesn't care lol yes I do get them waxed  :laugh:

I posted this post on the "Just for Us" section.  Everyone there has some kinda negative response but you guys are great :) lol they commented that my eyebrows are strange. oh well :)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 05:37:01 PM
lol do I really look that young? I'm 18.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: shanetastic on January 21, 2008, 05:57:17 PM
Can we get a color picture? :D

Also, I'm going to have to agree in saying you do look young, but still, passable. 
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 06:46:48 PM
Yeah, I look young but not bad for pre T I guess?
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: shanetastic on January 21, 2008, 06:51:34 PM
not at all.  I'd still love to see a more colorful picture though :)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 06:52:39 PM
Hehe I will get one up.

So, eyebrows don't look bad?!
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: shanetastic on January 21, 2008, 06:54:33 PM
I doubt that's the thing guys will be looking at, as already stated hehe.

Besides again I'm going to restate what has already been said, but nothing wrong with claiming as "metero" anyways if anyone does give you a hard time.  I doubt anyone would though, sort of a weird thing to hassle someone about as I've never seen it happen before.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 06:59:15 PM
lol well, I know they look rather gay.  I'm gay :) my boyfriend is fine with every thing about me.  I just want his family and friends back home to believe that I'm a bio-male.  I just hope they will think so :) You think they will?
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: shanetastic on January 21, 2008, 07:14:15 PM
Quote from: Brady on January 21, 2008, 07:03:26 PM
haha that's true.  Am I at least cute?

This is all my personal opinion, but I don't like hats :)  But yeah I think your good looking, some T could only help that of course :D  Here's a little photo of a face I like on guys just like the hair and some stubbly facial hair.  Anyways here's the link lol, but all in all, I think you'll pass as a male, AND you're good looking.  http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0348333/Ss/0348333/07_300dpi.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0348333

(P.S. Waiting is awesome!)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 07:16:00 PM
I usually faux hawk it, I was just feeling lazy lol.

Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: tinkerbell on January 21, 2008, 07:37:25 PM
QuoteRe: Do I pass?

I tend to agree with those who have said you look young.  You definitely look very, very, young but I can see the guy in you!

Eighteen?  Wow, you are a baby and have an exciting life ahead of you.  To be frank, I think you are doing extremely well considering the fact that you are not on testosterone therapy yet.  Kuddos to you & the best of luck! :)

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 07:39:42 PM
Haha yeah finally 18.  Can finally put pics of myself on Susans!! Whoop!!!
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Nero on January 21, 2008, 07:40:08 PM
I'd have to agree with the voice thing. That makes a big difference. And honestly hon, you pass for a very young boy, say 12.
Whether his family takes you for a girl or a very young boy - either way they're going to know something's up.
Nero's just giving it to you straight.

And I understand completely, because I had the misfortune to be a pretty girl too (well, until I got swollen with fat, that is), and it's hard when there's nothing you can do with the face to make it masculine.

Sounds like you have a great guy there.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 07:43:58 PM
yeah, I was told I'm a pretty girl :( booooo.

He is AMAZING.  Every transperson's dream.  He is incredibly nice, sweet, funny, caring, not to mention GORGEOUS hehe.

He is gay, but says that he loves me no matter what.  He says that I am much manlier than he is  :laugh:  January 27th is our one year anniversary :)
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Nero on January 21, 2008, 07:50:47 PM
awww that's sweet. Any chance on telling his family you're trans? Or is that just not an option?
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 08:03:08 PM
I suppose it would be fine.

I know that if they rejected the idea or made fun of me, he would defend me. However, they live across the country and rarely sees them sooooo...I dunno really.

Never met the people haha
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 21, 2008, 08:26:16 PM
It's kinda the point to have a big bill...

It's my " ballin' " hat haha  :laugh:
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: J.T. on January 22, 2008, 12:05:05 AM
hard to tell about the chest... and yeah i say you look like a young boy, 13/14.  Hey, i get that too, but I'm 26.  Nero is right, they're gonna know something is up... one way or another.

As for the eyebrows, i've got no clue.  look like eyebrows to me.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: currupt on January 22, 2008, 04:47:42 AM
Well I'll be honest. I'm from NYC so I see alot of strange ->-bleeped-<- (not calling you strange) but it's pretty common here to not be sure on a passer-byer's gender alot of the times. You should really put some color photos it would help for judgement. I think you look like a VERY feminine guy, definatley gay tho, lol. But you are gay so that's ok! You face is very feminine, so shades and that hat would help. You should try to wear clothes just a tiny bit looser. Just a little bit. It might conceal the skinnyness(that's what draws the attention actually). There's a difference between female framed skinny and male framed skinny and it's noticeable. Otherwise your looking good for pre-t. I think you could pass to people who are not expecting it. Like for example, if you were in a room full of bio guys and they had to choose "whose the non bio guy!" then be scared. The point is, that's a wierd not going to ever happen situation, and when people first meet you I really don't think they will assume you are not a bio guy.
I've seen other pre t guys who look more fem then you. So that's good right?
I just started taking it so of course no different effects. I have a ton of pics if you  wanted to see other pre t guys... or something lol.  I pass 100% everywhere to anyone it never even crosses my mind.
I spent a good time building my body tho, could also be why.
You should hit the gym :D
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: ConfusedMichelle on January 22, 2008, 08:00:39 AM
Ive been procrastinated the gym grrrrr need to start.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: fluffy jorgen on January 26, 2008, 07:55:37 AM
i think you definitely pass, but as others commented- younger than your actual age. well done!
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Sarah on February 02, 2008, 10:56:37 PM
Hey Brady,
Your top left pic passed pretty well.
no chest problems that I could see.
Detected a bit of timidness in some of the others.


Sara
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Schala on February 03, 2008, 12:03:45 AM
QuoteThere's a difference between female framed skinny and male framed skinny and it's noticeable.

What is the difference?

By the way, I can vouch for the baggy clothes to conceal skinnyness, it works. That's how I avoided getting beat up as much as I could have. Oh and I always looked young, I still do. I think a guy looking like 12 but being 18 might get more problems than a girl looking like 14 but being 25...something about western culture and youth+feminity. Like others said, if you don't make a big deal of it, others will be less enclined to comment.
Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Jordan on February 03, 2008, 03:34:17 AM
Brady,

Take it from me your a fine looking hunk of man, I can tell your 18, and I would say physicaly you look younger (not as young as some people are saying though) but your style is 18 years old, and I like it, its hot for sure.

You look like a cute right outa high school little balla.  I dig ya,, too bad your gay...  >:(

Title: Re: Do I pass?
Post by: Kimberly Kilpatrick on February 09, 2008, 02:23:26 AM
You look like a young boy. Act masculine and you will do fine. I guess you pass better than me.