Can be trans or none trans=]
Me personally? Pracilla Queen of the Desert, puts a much much lighter out look on the whole thing. And the Rocky Horror Show XD
ShortBus
makes me believe that there are places and people out there where I belong
I like Tootsie - I like the way Dustin Hoffman learns how to be a better man by being a woman. In other words a better human. Here's the quote that makes me cry: "Look, you don't know me from Adam. But I was a better man with you, as a woman... than I ever was with a woman, as a man. You know what I mean? I just gotta learn to do it without the dress." I've been trying so hard for so long to be a man that I am re learning how to be the female that I really am. I need to learn how to be that person in a dress. Its a twist.
I also really like Birdcage - I love that Nathan Lane has affirmed his sexual identity so totally that his difficulty is trying to act like a man. His imitation of the John Wayne walk is hilarious and Robin William's comment that the walk was perfect is right on. Put a wig and a dress on John Wayne when he's doing his swagger and he'd be a convincing woman from behind.
I like these two movies together for the juxtaposition of the two characters.
Debbie
HAHA, ditto Mr Marc ditto.
Audrey
I just loved Ed Wood. It's really cheesy, but incredibly funny and poignant at the same time. Everybody in the movie is such a freak that it makes Ed Wood's crossdressing seem pedestrian. I think it really puts the trans issues in their proper place: unavoidable and unhideable, but always secondary to love and loyalty to your friends.
"Ma vie en rose" really helped me loosen up all the feelings I'd tried to hide from since I was a child. It's a really sweet movie.
Pinocchio
"I'm a real.... wait wtf :S
Quote from: Audrey on March 03, 2008, 03:39:48 PM
HAHA, ditto Mr Marc ditto.
Audrey
Me and my friend, he's a part time drag queen started singing some of the songs from it in school once loool.
And pinoccio, ah how i can relate to yew!
The one that hits it for me is "Better than Chocolate".
It's primarily a touching lesbian love story. But one of the supporting characters is a post operative woman who is deeply in love with one of the other female characters. Their interplay is touching and funny.
She also sings "I am NOT a ->-bleeped-<-ing ->-bleeped-<-!" in a cabaret scene that is absolutely hilarious!
-Sandy
Hehe sounds amusing,
it has to be the utter flambiounce of 'Pracilla' that helps me cope.
Especially Adam! XD
Pricilla is awesome :D great film.....
personally found trans america utter poo and unwatchable, and made me want to stab the main character repeatedly with a blunt object...
Camp is a good one for my self esteem issues....
What movie has helped me most?
Apocalypse now..... :D
do the math ;) it makes sense.
R >:D
Quote from: Rachael on March 03, 2008, 06:36:18 PM
What movie has helped me most?
Apocalypse now..... :D
do the math ;) it makes sense.
R >:D
I LOVED YOU IN WALL STREET!!! :P :D
The film American Splendour helps me when I feel down.
Quote from: Rachael on March 03, 2008, 06:36:18 PM
do the math ;) it makes sense.
R >:D
Uh, my vector calculus seems to be failing me --- you got a hint?
Not a trans film in sight, but here's the list:
When I'm sad and in need of a bit of hope: Love Actually, because maybe, just maybe love really does conquer all.
When I'm absolutely pissed off at society's narrow-mindedness : Fight Club. What can I say, the world according to Tyler Durden is my world.
Blech...
Fight Club really ticked me off.
Quote from: Tyler DurdenWe're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need.
::)
Okay, so it was a dystopia. Why doesn't everyone get that? It's as if people read 1984 and are all, Gee, I totally LOVE Big Brother!!! :icon_love:
(Yeah, yeah, everyone always gives me grief for not liking Fight Club. Fire away.)
Quote from: Alyssa M. on March 04, 2008, 11:17:36 AM
Blech...
Fight Club really ticked me off.
Quote from: Tyler DurdenWe're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if another woman is really the answer we need.
::)
Okay, so it was a dystopia. Why doesn't everyone get that? It's as if people read 1984 and are all, Gee, I totally LOVE Big Brother!!! :icon_love:
(Yeah, yeah, everyone give me grief for not liking Fight Club. Fire away.)
Hey, I wasn't exactly cheering the line either, but as an attack on affluenza, consumerism, commodified culture and all the other nasty bits, it just spoke to my little Anarchist soul. And since I lay the blame for our suffering at the feet of narrow, selfish patriarchal societies, of which the modern business world is just the latest incarnation, Fight Club spoke as much to my gender issues as it did to my sense of social justice.
But in all fairness, it was an exceptionally violent movie, and Tyler was a seriously misogynistic arse. That I do agree on!
Quote from: redfish the mad on March 04, 2008, 11:56:29 AM
I dunno, while I like a lot of movies with trans things in them, like Rocky Horror and Hedwig and the Angry Inch, I have yet to find any movie that actually helps me with being trans.
Even when a movie tries to be sensitive to trans issues, it's still probably going to have been made for cissexuals by cissexuals.
I have to agree on that. While movies like TransAmerica for example, may help to raise awareness (slightly) of and about us, I find them of little value personally. If I had to choose "trans" films that have really helped me, they'd be documentaries - HBO's Middle Sexes, and Sundance's Transgeneration the ones that 'spoke' to me most.
Quote from: redfish the mad on March 04, 2008, 11:56:29 AM
I dunno, while I like a lot of movies with trans things in them, like Rocky Horror and Hedwig and the Angry Inch, I have yet to find any movie that actually helps me with being trans.
Even when a movie tries to be sensitive to trans issues, it's still probably going to have been made for cissexuals by cissexuals.
There are several movies that help me with being in general though, such as Little Miss Sunshine. I love that movie to death.
Going to agree with redfish on this one.
I also am going to have to list Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind to my list as well as Little Miss Sunshine :D
Quote from: redfish the mad on March 05, 2008, 11:13:50 AM
I also adore What the Bleep Do We Know?
I need to try that body-writing thing she did and see if it makes my life any better.
Yeah! I forgot all about that one! Thanks Redfish! That was a great movie...
>_<
:eusa_wall:
Please please please don't take anything you see in this movie seriously. It's not real. It's made up.
If you want to learn something about quantum mechanics without going through a formal course check out the Doug Robb Memorial Lectures by Richard Feynman. Or at least I think that's the video I've seen -- it doesn't matter anyway, because all the pop science I've read or seen by Feynman has actually taken the "science" part of "pop science" seriously, while actually being accessible. Nobody else has come close -- I guess Brian Greene's no idiot, but he definitely gets a wee bit batty in Elegant Universe.
Pop science is hard to do. But WTBDWK doesn't even try.
(Of course, as a drinking game it's okay: you drink any time someone says something wildly inaccurate. Just make sure to use light beer for this game, or it could get dangerous.)
QuoteIf you want to learn something about quantum mechanics without going through a formal course check out the Doug Robb Memorial Lectures by Richard Feynman.
For anyone who is interested : http://www.vega.org.uk/video/subseries/8
Quote from: Alyssa M. on March 05, 2008, 04:17:18 PM
If you want to learn something about quantum mechanics without going through a formal course check out the Doug Robb Memorial Lectures by Richard Feynman. Or at least I think that's the video I've seen -- it doesn't matter anyway, because all the pop science I've read or seen by Feynman has actually taken the "science" part of "pop science" seriously, while actually being accessible. Nobody else has come close -- I guess Brian Greene's no idiot, but he definitely gets a wee bit batty in Elegant Universe.
Pop science is hard to do. But WTBDWK doesn't even try.
(Of course, as a drinking game it's okay: you drink any time someone says something wildly inaccurate. Just make sure to use light beer for this game, or it could get dangerous.)
I quite enjoyed Elegant Universe - find his books much better a read though. What the bleep is nice to ask what-if questions with, but yeah, pinch of salt.
All of the movies and documentaries I've seen about being TS depress me as the TG girls in those are WAY better looking than me and I wish I could look just like them...but that being said...
when i'm needing enlightenment or motivation TS-wise I rather like the french film "Amelie". Don't know why, it just works.
I dunno, the transwomen in most ->-bleeped-<- films make me cringe...
R >:D
Actually, I suggest The Bicentennial Man staring Robin Williams.
Robin plays an android whose positronic brain reaches self-awareness. He on a quest to become human, altering his physical appearance and internal structure to be more human.
This is not an action film. If anything, I would actually list this as a mildly science-fiction chick-flick. It does make you question just what does it mean to be human.
And isn't this what we are all doing? On a quest to transform our bodies to match who we know we are?
Chaunte
I remember being very impressed with Bicentennial Man. For me it had religious meanings as they tried to define what being human was. Did Robin William's character have a soul? For me, he did when he had such a large impact on the lives around him. His soul lived on in the people that were impacted by his life and through the generations of people who's lives were changed because he "lived".
It all fits very well with this liberal Christian's theology. ;)
Debbie
Quote from: lady amarant on March 04, 2008, 12:00:15 PM
Quote from: redfish the mad on March 04, 2008, 11:56:29 AM
I dunno, while I like a lot of movies with trans things in them, like Rocky Horror and Hedwig and the Angry Inch, I have yet to find any movie that actually helps me with being trans.
Even when a movie tries to be sensitive to trans issues, it's still probably going to have been made for cissexuals by cissexuals.
I have to agree on that. While movies like TransAmerica for example, may help to raise awareness (slightly) of and about us, I find them of little value personally. If I had to choose "trans" films that have really helped me, they'd be documentaries - HBO's Middle Sexes, and Sundance's Transgeneration the ones that 'spoke' to me most.
Personally, I loved TransAmerica. I didn't see it as a story of transition, but a story about family. Bree denied her family even existed at the beginning of the movie and was forced by the arrival of Toby in her life to resolve her feelings about them. If you didn't notice, the climax of the movie was not her surgery but the violent departure of Toby from her parents home. She grew from the experience of the road trip and her acceptance of her family and all it's pathos. The return of Toby in the denouement ended the story with the hope of reconciliation between father and son. Bree's transsexualism was a plot device to create dramatic tension, not the central theme of the film.
As much as that may be the case.... They billed it as an insight into transsexuality....
Society saw it as such....
yet it was a barrow full of the same old horsecrap they have been putting out since before time...
R >:D
QuotePersonally, I loved TransAmerica. I didn't see it as a story of transition, but a story about family.
Thank you for your comment Claire. I too enjoyed Transamerica. As a story and as movie making it was quite good. As for how it presented Transgender... It was one interpretation. I, personally, don't have a reason to hate it.
Debbie
A movie (amoungst others, but I saw it while I was ripening) that helped me with NOT being trans was "V For Vendetta."
Evey is... well, my heroine. Watching her go from a timid, scared little girl afraid to say or do anything... to realizing she believed in something more important than even her life, AND acting on that faith... wow. I felt sick after watching it, knowing she was me, knowing I had been throwing away my one shot at doing what I ALWAYS knew I was meant to do in this life.
But it's sorta a zen thing. They say that when enlightenment is ripe, anything can spark it: tripping on a crack, accidentally kicking a pebble, a dog bark... anything.
But movies with trans characters? No, I really haven't been able to relate to them, including Trans America. I DID love "Orlando" very much, though she's not exactly a trans character. But I can relate to her, and her journey.
~Kate~
I remember enjoying Tootsie when it was doing the rounds, but luckily one thing my lady and I have in common is that we both enjoy luvvy-duvvy romantic comedies and also the Jane Austin adaptations such as Pride and Prejudice. I think that's when my beloved first began to realise I was not as other 'men'. Especially when I blubbed at the end of Watership Down.
L.
Gladiator for me.... *drools at pre fat russel crowe*
Had everything, lost it all, but finds peace in the end.... works for me ...
R >:D
Quote from: Rachael on March 06, 2008, 12:29:58 PM
Gladiator for me.... *drools at pre fat russel crowe*
Had everything, lost it all, but finds peace in the end.... works for me ...
R >:D
lololol. For some reason I really love that movie as well.
I haven't seen TransAmerica. I've heard many mixed reviews, so not sure whether I will give it a try.
I love movies like Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Gattaca.
The first, because trying to erase memories would be very tempting for me to do, but I realise it isn't that easy, and not necessarily a wise thing to do.
The second, I like the concept of overcoming adversity. The odds were against him from the moment he was born and he bloody well showed them all!!! :)
orlando is a very odd film, because orlando doesn't seem to get that affected whatever happens to them
Quote from: Rachael on March 06, 2008, 05:12:24 AM
As much as that may be the case.... They billed it as an insight into transsexuality....
Society saw it as such....
yet it was a barrow full of the same old horsecrap they have been putting out since before time...
R >:D
You can't really blame the film makers or writers for the way it was marketed. The distributor has a free hand in how they get asses in the seats. I've seen several movies that were promoted as comedies that weren't funny at all! The director never intended them to be. The
World According to Garp is one example. Yes, their was humour ad lots of irony but the fate of the protagonist and those close to him kinda rules out the slapstick angle the marketers pursued.
Breakfast on Pluto. And yes, I think Cillian Murphy is extremely hot. And the movie did bother me a little because for a while I felt like the main character was an airhead, but I eventually got that she was not. I related so well to the film because of the process of her transition. She didn't want to be a girl when she was young, and even as late as high school didn't really know. It wasn't until her adulthood was well underway that she really came into her womanhood. It turns my parent's theory that, since I didn't want to be a girl explicitly as a child, I must not be trans, on its head.
Hedwig and the Angry Inch, of course...
Interview with a Vampire. Shh. Don't tell. I was goth in high school *ducks*. Vampires have always intrigued me because regardless of whatever gender presentation they have they all seem to be androgynes. I used to dream of becoming one just for the immortal beauty of the thing. Ok, that should have gone on the confession board! I'm so embarrassed!
the Gundam Wing Series. Listen! It was high school, ok? I promise it's all better now. But I always wanted to be a female version of Duo. I was in love with the idea of being that character.
Amelie, only because I wish I was her.
I'm sure there are more, so I'll post when I think of them.
Breakfast on Pluto is one of my favorites, too. It was put together so well with the various subplots seemingly independent of each other until they merge toward the end.
Interview with the Vampire is also one of my favorites. Lestat's remark, "the gift is different for us all" I think applies to to trans folk as well as vampires.
The film that has inspired me most in my journey is American Beauty. Lester Burnham in his middle years comes to the trap he has made for himself and makes his escape. It's something I did myself though I hope I come to a better end than Lester did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q3ltyPJJMQ
Whenever I feel like getting into a real relationship again I just watch Whose Afraid of Virgina Woofe, that ends it for a while.
As for helping me with who I am, Rocky Horror always reminds me that weird can make you rich and famous.
Quote from: redfish the mad on March 05, 2008, 08:27:24 PM
=(
Hey, red, I'm sorry if I was a too harsh. I don't mean to criticize anyone's taste in movies. After all, my taste in movies is probably indefensible.
:icon_bunch:
I have a nasty little pet peeve about the representation of science and scientists in the media, especially movies. It's why it took me a while to get over the Matrix being based off the premise of a perpetual motion machine. Yeah, I'm probably a little oversensitive.
Please go ahead and enjoy WTBDWK. You of course don't need my permission -- it's just a movie! So who cares? But please don't expect to learn about QM from the movie, that's all.
Okay, maybe I should just stop digging and put down the shovel. :embarrassed:
I'm afraid there weren't too many movies with which I could indentify when I transitioned. I suppose that one of the movies that touched me deeply was Ma Vie En Rose since I identified with Ludovic 100%, BUT that film opened in 1997, and I was already in my RLT then. Still, a wonderful movie for all of you to see!
tink :icon_chick:
I watched Hedwig and the Angry Inch last night after reading about it here for the first time. What a tragic, sad, hopeful movie. :'(
Bladerunner "skin-jobs?" No, transsexuals.
Quote from: Nichole on March 08, 2008, 09:54:28 AM
Bladerunner "skin-jobs?" No, transsexuals.
Crap. You just blew my mind. Now I'm going to have to go watch Bladerunner again.
Braveheart.
No suprise here that I am saying this one. Beautiful Boxer. Also speking of movies i like and help as a T-girl...i know it is about drag queens but. too wong foo
For me it was the UK television movie "Different for Girls" 1996. The movie has one of the few stories that tries to deal with real situations, and the public reactions to transgender without going overboard.
The story set in London is about two boys that become freinds at school when one of them is being bullied. Then ten years or so later, they accidentally meet following a motoring accident. They don't recognise each other at first, as one of them has hasd a sex change; arguments and court cases ensue, but eventualy they fall in love, and have sex.
Not a Hollywood blockbuster, but essential viewing with a ray of hope for us all. Great to see a male actor taking on the challenge of the female role rather than a genetic girl.
Check out YouTube link below for a clips, and if you are interested the movie DVD is currently available from Amazon...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMXVkOaL614
Chrissty
Quote from: Claire de Lune on March 06, 2008, 09:24:48 PM
You can't really blame the film makers or writers for the way it was marketed. The distributor has a free hand in how they get asses in the seats. I've seen several movies that were promoted as comedies that weren't funny at all! The director never intended them to be. The World According to Garp is one example. Yes, their was humour ad lots of irony but the fate of the protagonist and those close to him kinda rules out the slapstick angle the marketers pursued.
I remember when that came out. I was 5 years old, and I really wanted to see it because it starred "Mork from Ork." My mom was probably right, though. She thought I wouldn't enjoy it. :D Too bad the advertisers were thinking along the same lines as a 5-year-old.
I think that's the same thing that killed M. Night Shyamalan's last couple films, as well. The marketing people tried to market them as horror films, which they really aren't. So the people who went to see them were bored, and the people who would have appreciated them stayed away.
Lady in the Water was a film that, despite a very slow beginning, really spoke to me in the end. It's all about following your own special path, and not letting anyone else define what that path is.
I just received a notice from Amazon that Kiss of the Spider Woman is coming out on DVD. I've been waiting for this for ages. I've seen reviews that claim this movie is about a gay man but from my perspective the main character is absolutely Trans. I watched it with a heterosexual men's group and came an inch away from coming out to them as a transwoman during the discussion afterward. Alas I chickened out. Never-the-less, it had a profound effect on me. I can't wait to see it again for the first time. It is being released as a 2 disc special edition on July 22.
Dee
One film that really made me think, back when I was in denial about myself, was a film called Heaven (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120697/). One of the characters in that is transsexual (a TS stripper, actually), and not only that, but is psychic.
It was... well it highlights some of the discrimination faced by transsexual people, and is pretty graphic in places, but it's a very interesting film.
Thanks Ladies, Heaven and Lady in the Water just went into the Netflix queue. I've had a craving for good ghost stories lately. The kind that rely more on tension than blood. The Others fits into that genre quite nicely as well as The Marsh and The Gift. Any other recommendations?
100% Human (http://www.100human.com/)
this movie made me realize that Im not cisgendered
A Girl like me, the story of Gwen Araujo
Mulan.
I loved that movie because it had the girl, dressing up as a man, going off to war and finding her way into the male world and being accepted as 'one of them'.
Not to mention the line in one of the songs, "Who is that girl I see, staring straight back at me? When will my reflection show I am inside?"
Quote from: Chrissty on June 25, 2008, 02:36:45 AM
For me it was the UK television movie "Different for Girls" 1996. The movie has one of the few stories that tries to deal with real situations, and the public reactions to transgender without going overboard.
The story set in London is about two boys that become freinds at school when one of them is being bullied. Then ten years or so later, they accidentally meet following a motoring accident. They don't recognise each other at first, as one of them has hasd a sex change; arguments and court cases ensue, but eventualy they fall in love, and have sex.
Not a Hollywood blockbuster, but essential viewing with a ray of hope for us all. Great to see a male actor taking on the challenge of the female role rather than a genetic girl.
Check out YouTube link below for a clips, and if you are interested the movie DVD is currently available from Amazon...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMXVkOaL614
Chrissty
I love that movie! It was a theatrical release in the USA. I have it on tape because the DVD in NTSC format is so rare ($75 for a used one). I can really relate to Kim as she struggles to lead a normal life and negotiate office politics. As for Paul (Rupert Graves), I'll ride on the back of his bike anytime!
Hi Claire,
I'm glad someone else has seen my favourite movie....
...Another milestone for me was the 1986 Movie "Second Serve", with Vanessa Redgrave playing the Part of Renee Richards...
The movie is a little dated now, but it still has more thoughtful content than many of the more recent releases.
Chrissty
Quote from: Tink on March 07, 2008, 10:31:56 PM
I'm afraid there weren't too many movies with which I could indentify when I transitioned. I suppose that one of the movies that touched me deeply was Ma Vie En Rose since I identified with Ludovic 100%, BUT that film opened in 1997, and I was already in my RLT then. Still, a wonderful movie for all of you to see!
tink :icon_chick:
Oh yes, I wanted to live in
Le Monde du Pam too!!! And i loved the fantasy Ludovic has of her other X chromosome missing the chimney and getting the accidental Y instead, too cute.
The movie that made me really believe that hey, maybe I could really do this, was The Crying Game. Jaye Davidson as Dil just took my breath away. I thought, I could do that! People get shot and kidnapped and everything else in that movie, and the part that upset ME was when Stephen Rea wants to cut Dil's hair! Nooooooo! Cos I knew what it cost Dil to let him do that. Yikesy yikes. And lol @ me and my priorities.
Others I like a lot are "Stage Beauty", and "Better Than Chocolate."
For laughs I like "13 Going On 30" and "The Hot Chick" because there are scenes when the characters are discovering their new bodies that just make me fall off the couch laughing because that was me! LOL.
Stealth
stage beauty is an interesting choice, about a man so used to playing a woman he has to relearn how to be a man.
Wow!! I should have known that I would find people on this site who have seen DIFFERENT FOR GIRLS. I have it on DVD and watched it just the other night. And SECOND SERVE--Vanessa Redgrave is awesome. I taped that film off of TV. It doesn't seem to be available in any format.
What movie helps me with being trans? I self-identified as FTM a long time ago, but I've been suppressing my identity for years. This summer, I had a humongous breakthrough. One TV show and a movie made this possible: QUEER AS FOLK (US version) and BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN. For Pride month, QAF was on sale, so I bought the first three seasons and watched them through in a few days. Got the last two seasons and watched them in a few days. Obviously the show has its flaws, but it had a profound effect on me. First, I was so saturated in the show that I couldn't go back to suppressing my identity. It just wasn't possible anymore. Second, seeing all of those gay guys made me realize something. It's not that I want to be a gay guy someday, after I get my doctorate and have time to explore my identity...I AM a gay boy, now, even though I'm no-ho and no-op.
It was an amazing experience to realize that. I'm still high on it.
BROKEBACK illustrated the coping mechanism that I've been using for many years. Like Ennis and Jack, who were able to hang out and sleep together only occasionally, I only allowed myself to think about my identity issues a few times a year, when I would watch a few movies or read a few books (gay or TG fare) that tend to trigger me. Then I'd go through a whole range of feelings: anger, envy, frustration, depression. Then I would put myself together again and go on with "normal" life.
This coping strategy was largely unconscious, but when I saw BROKEBACK on the heels of QAF this summer, it suddenly hit me.
Both of these shows freed me. Of course, my life is once again filled with uncertainty and confusion over my identity and its future, but the dam had to break sometime.
Like Monty said (even though it was over a month ago) Mulan was the film that, when I watched it for the first time when I was younger, sort of set in motion the realization for me that I wasn't really cisgendered. I was also insanely happy that it was one of the few disney movies that departed from the typical helpless princess rescued by the dream guy. In Mulan, SHE rescues HIM, and I always thought that it was the most awesome thing, maybe because I've always liked ideas that 'colored outside the lines' or because it proved that no matter what your gender you are capable of the same things as everyone else.
I also always thought it was cool how she covertly blended in with the other males, even though the characters never noticed some things that I'm sure would have been noticed in reality, but this was mostly helped along by the fact that it was sort of a kid's movie and it would have been ruined otherwise if they knew too early on.
They made Mulan 2, which I watched (even though it was a long time after it actually came out) which I thought wasn't as good as the first, but it still had some value to it.
I also read they're making a live-action Mulan :D
Dressed to Kill
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Wow, you're a little ray of sunshine in a troubled world aren't you?
I'm off my meds >:D
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Hey Claire
What's up?
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Hugs :icon_hug:
Chrissty
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Freude!!!
Quote from: Claire de Lune on August 10, 2008, 12:41:38 AM
I had my cranky pants on.
I had a pair like that...threw them out last month...! ::)
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Chrissty
Quote from: Chrissty on August 10, 2008, 06:22:06 AM
Quote from: Claire de Lune on August 10, 2008, 12:41:38 AM
I had my cranky pants on.
I had a pair like that...threw them out last month...! ::)
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Chrissty
Perhaps I should do the same. I hear the Passion Pants (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/18/vibrating_knickers/) are much more fun! :laugh:
I think the movie that helped me most was Ma Vie en Rose.... i love that little movie so much. Boys dont cry is the one i watch the most (mainly cuz i dont have ma vie en rose on dvd) and me and my friends watch transgeneration too, too much.
Other good Movies: beautiful boxer, iron ladies, middle sexes, hedwig and the angry inch, rocky horror, Priscilla queen of the desert...
trans movies i DIDNT like include Normal, which seemed to mock the trans character a little (the director used transsexualism as a metaphor for betrayal in a relationship apperently)
Transamerica just felt like very much an outsiders view point and it was hard to like Bree, she came off as quite selfish and weak. i remember in the interviews they talk about how they didnt think the actress would pull it off because she was "too pretty" (comments like that put me off). Someone also pointed out to me that the boys naivety about transsexuals is a bit odd when he was a rent boy from the streets of new york
sorry movies are kinda my thing
Kate, I agree completely about Transamerica...I found it disappointing. I did laugh when she asked for a pink sleeping bag though. :laugh:
A lot of people have mentioned Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. That one didn't do a thing for me. Rocky Horror either, though SO many people love it and give me the screwy face when I say i don't.
Normal put me off at first. I thought, there is nothing feminine about this character, and so, the wearing of perfume and so forth just jars. But the scene in the barn saved it for me. Because being trans IS a life and death issue, and so many people don't understand that. I also thought it did a fine job of showing the wife's hurt and confusion, and also love. I love the scene where the trans character goes, "I understand women so much better now" or something to that effect, and she goes, "Couldn't you just have read a book?" :D
Ma Vie En Rose is just so priceless. I love it love it love it, and copied it off, despite all Interpol warnings. I almost fall off the couch when Ludovic's mom says, "You'd rather live with that doll?" and I'm just like Ludovic, going oh hell yes! Le Monde du Pam looked like Heaven to me!
I felt so bad when Ludovic has to get a haircut. Just like in The Crying Game, when Stephen Rea starts to cut Dil's hair, I have to look away, no fooling.
Stealth
Quote from: Stealthgrrl on August 11, 2008, 06:55:26 AM
Normal put me off at first. I thought, there is nothing feminine about this character, and so, the wearing of perfume and so forth just jars.
I had a very hard time watching Normal because I really identified with the masculinity of the character. Who among us older folk does look good the first time we put on a dress. It was jarring to see and it still IS, for me, still jarring when I look in a mirror. Things are getting better as I continue my HRT and learn to style my hair.
QuoteBut the scene in the barn saved it for me. Because being trans IS a life and death issue, and so many people don't understand that. I also thought it did a fine job of showing the wife's hurt and confusion, and also love. I love the scene where the trans character goes, "I understand women so much better now" or something to that effect, and she goes, "Couldn't you just have read a book?" :D
The scene that meant the most to me was the wife's comment to that awful pastor about why she is staying with her spouse. Something like, "How can I leave, he is my heart (as she puts her hand to her breast). I won't encourage my spouse watch Normal since it would feel to me like I'm trying to put words into her mouth. Although I do believe my spouse feels the same way. She showed me last night by holding me as I wept at the kitchen table. Also, to get back to your comment, I don't want her to see it because I don't want to encourage her fears that I might take my own life if I can't express myself as a woman. If it comes to that, I'll find a way to tell her myself and seek her help.
Yes, we all are touched (or not touched) by movies in different ways. I'm glad there are different movies out there for everybody's tastes - to help us on our journey.
Dee
Shameless bump, and an addition that I can't believe nobody mentioned (including myself).
See also my topic: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,51564.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,51564.0.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pPUmv3U2XY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pPUmv3U2XY)
Okay, cheesy -- but it had a heck of an impact on me when I was ten years old. And still does, I must admit.
~Alyssa
Quote from: Alyssa M. on December 14, 2008, 11:39:55 PMOkay, cheesy -- but it had a heck of an impact on me when I was ten years old. And still does, I must admit.
Not cheesy. :'(
~Simone.
I'm sorry Simone! As I said, it's always been a favourite, though I felt I couldn't admit it. I guess I still think I need to make excuses. :-\
~Alyssa
p.s. The "extra" "u" is a Yank's gesture of reconcilliation. :)
Aw honey! I wasn't taking you on about it! I was agreeing with you ... except for the cheesy bit (which you didn't really believe anyway)! And total props for using the correct spelling! ;D
~Simone.
for me it's Boys don't Cry, but the endings really sad though. i know its about how hard it is, but it gets me inspired :(
Silence of the Lambs. Kidding. I watched it in 7th grade when I overheard someone say it had a boy who wanted to be a girl in it. It scarred me for life. I still think about it and feel like a freak.
I've seen them all, but "She's a Boy I Knew" is the only inspiration. Watching Gwen try to be ultra-femmy and obsessed and then finding the kind of woman that makes sense for her is something I think about a lot. She seems so comfortable in her own skin, which is what I dream of. I also like "Prodigal Sons" because she's also from Montana and goes home for her class reunion. The idea of ever going home again is something I didn't think was possible.
Quote from: Alyssa M. on December 14, 2008, 11:39:55 PM
Shameless bump, and an addition that I can't believe nobody mentioned (including myself).
See also my topic: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,51564.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,51564.0.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pPUmv3U2XY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pPUmv3U2XY)
Okay, cheesy -- but it had a heck of an impact on me when I was ten years old. And still does, I must admit.
~Alyssa
awww So you felt like Ariel? That movie had a hell of an impact one me too. But for a different reason. It was my baby sister's favorite movie, so it was always on in the background for like a whole year. Whatever was going on in my life sort of melded into the songs (namely my first crush). So, whenever I hear it now, I'm 11 again. :laugh:
Quote from: Arch on July 31, 2008, 01:31:32 AM
QUEER AS FOLK (US version) and BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN. For Pride month, QAF was on sale, so I bought the first three seasons and watched them through in a few days. Got the last two seasons and watched them in a few days. Obviously the show has its flaws, but it had a profound effect on me. First, I was so saturated in the show that I couldn't go back to suppressing my identity. It just wasn't possible anymore. Second, seeing all of those gay guys made me realize something. It's not that I want to be a gay guy someday, after I get my doctorate and have time to explore my identity...I AM a gay boy, now, even though I'm no-ho and no-op.
^This.
I discovered Queer as Folk last summer...and then in December celebrated the 10th anniversery of the airing of the first episode. I have watched the show about six times now all the way through, more becuase I like disecting the characters the way we used to disect books in A.P. Lit. But QAF was an eye opener for me. It is definately a big part of what helped to having my little light bulb light up. I'm a gay boy too, despite how the rest of the world may see me, and I'm proud of it ^^
Quote from: japple on February 19, 2011, 10:04:31 AMI've seen them all, but "She's a Boy I Knew" is the only inspiration. Watching Gwen try to be ultra-femmy and obsessed and then finding the kind of woman that makes sense for her is something I think about a lot. She seems so comfortable in her own skin, which is what I dream of.
Ditto - this was the film that made me realise I don't have to be heterofemme to be a transwoman, I can be any kind of woman I find myself wanting to be (and there are billions of kinds of woman to be).
Stand By Me was another film that gave me courage to come out to people, I saw it for the first time around the time I was deciding to tell my friends, earlier this year. Something about how those two boys show their hurt to each other was very liberating for me - it's something about love that is nothing to do with sex.
Oh, for the record, that song in Better Than Chocolate is actually called "I'm Not a ->-bleeped-<-ing Drag Queen!" (youtube version - contains strong language :)):
I'm not a F**king Drag Queen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSn01MLcUXA#noexternalembed)
Rambo:
Why would anyone want be a guy. ( :laugh: :laugh:)
Cindy
Quote from: CindyJames on May 19, 2011, 05:19:43 AM
Rambo:
Why would anyone want be a guy. ( :laugh: :laugh:)
Cindy
...but...but... headbands!
;D
For me, it's "Splash!"
I've had a connection with it since I first saw it at age 5. When I hit puberty, I wanted to be her.
Now, even more of a connection.
Quote from: soldierjane on March 03, 2008, 03:52:10 PM
"Ma vie en rose" really helped me loosen up all the feelings I'd tried to hide from since I was a child. It's a really sweet movie.
I know this is an old thread, but I just watched this. I'll be honest, this movie just made me incredibly depressed. It was far too similar to my own childhood, but with a more abusive parent. I found it to be a very good movie, and perhaps a lighter movie for those wondering what some of us go through. But, watching the heartache the parents and the child went through was far too much for me, no matter how the movie ended.
Quote from: Keiran_Kei on May 19, 2011, 01:20:17 AM
^This.
I discovered Queer as Folk last summer...and then in December celebrated the 10th anniversery of the airing of the first episode. I have watched the show about six times now all the way through, more becuase I like disecting the characters the way we used to disect books in A.P. Lit. But QAF was an eye opener for me. It is definately a big part of what helped to having my little light bulb light up. I'm a gay boy too, despite how the rest of the world may see me, and I'm proud of it ^^
Queer as Folk is what actually triggered me to think about my gender identity again. I tried to repress my feelings and was starting to fall back into a depression, and when I rediscovered the show it really lifted my spirits.
I also discovered that Gale Harold is an amazing actor. <333
The Rambo joke was great, btw! ;D
Films that help, romantic films help me even if they make me cry. Films that show the beauty of humanity be that male or female like "In the mood for love". "XXY" helped as well as did "Wild Side" the french film starring a pre-op transwoman. Wild Side is about the importance of friendship across gender and sexuality and that's always a very positive message.
Was this mentioned before? Boys Don't Cry.
Quote from: Rach_A on May 30, 2011, 02:01:00 PM
For me, it's "Splash!"
I've had a connection with it since I first saw it at age 5. When I hit puberty, I wanted to be her.
Now, even more of a connection.
That is so weird. I had forgotten all about that movie, but now I remember when I saw it as a kid I wanted to be able to turn into a lady mermaid. It's always funny when I get to lift up another stone from my childhood and see unexpected symptoms of GID.
I don't really like most trans movies, they're all on the depressing side or I just can't relate to them that well. I did like the transgeneration documentary show, though. There were some things that Lucas said that really stuck with me.
Boys don't cry. It's extremely sad but just the character makes me feel better.
Rocky.
It shows triumph in the face of monumental adversity and everyone saying it's impossible, and he does so through hard work and sheer willpower.
I know a lot of people insist on breaking them up into separate films despite it being the path of a single character rising, falling, and setting things right in his life, so with that in mind I would say that the first and the last movies were the best with these messages.
Wild Side (2004) by Sébastien Lif->-bleeped-<-z. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364120/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364120/)
This film helped me. It's the story of a pre op trans prostitute, a french/algerian man and a russian immigrant. The film speaks of alienation and how at the end of the day it's friendship that's the bottom line. It's very slow, very graphic and sometimes a little shocking to some sensitive souls but I love the message it gives that those of us on the 'outside' of so called respectable society can find love and friendship among each other when all around us we face alienation.
Trailer: IMDb Video Player: Wild Side (http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1893859609/player)
@Sandy: Better Than Chocolate is an excellent movie.
I also liked But I'm a Cheerleader.
Strangely, my girlfriend's favorite movie is She's the Man. And yesterday my gf helped me bind for the first time. I asked her why and she answered with that movie...it was weird...but I'll take it! Haha. So I guess that movie has helped me out with all of this a LOT.
Also, Imagine Me & You. I just love that movie and I find that it makes me happy when I'm in a tough spot.
I know there's another one, but I can't think of it right now.
Quote from: Sunnynight on September 12, 2011, 09:38:34 PM
That is so weird. I had forgotten all about that movie, but now I remember when I saw it as a kid I wanted to be able to turn into a lady mermaid. It's always funny when I get to lift up another stone from my childhood and see unexpected symptoms of GID.
Lol, darnit I forgot about that one as well! We had it on VHS and I used to tell my parents I wanted to watch it because I liked Darryl Hannah. ::)
Has anyone mentioned "Switch" before? Not "The Switch," just "Switch." I convinced my brother to watch it with me when we were on holiday. I explained to him I thought it was interesting so he went along with it. I remembered the name of the movie and who played in it up until I could buy it on DVD... so about 15 years.
Strange enough this movie has helped me a lot with dysphoria. Although I usually wished it was real. :-\
I just watched the weird teen film Zerophilia (again). It's weird because it's about transgender issues, but it's a romantic comedy, and it's also kind of homophobic in its subtext (in a teen-fears, "girl-on-girl is hot but guy-on-guy is gross" kind of way), which is a real shame. Its premise is that some people in the world have an extra Z chromosome, and once it gets activated, they switch genders (anatomically speaking) when they have an orgasm. I found it unexpectedly moving, but at the same time (as I'm pretty bi) annoying. It's worth a watch as a coming to terms with yourself sort of story, even with the dodgy attitudes in some of it.
High Art, ->-bleeped-<-ing Amal, But I'm a Chearleader!, Aimee & Jaguar, Tipping the Velvet, Revoir Julie, etc....
Was obsessed with lesbian romance movies when I was a teen cause it was the first time I'd ever really connected to a story like that. Helped feel less depressed and lonely for an hour or two anyway, imagining I could love and be loved. They used to show up late, late at night on TV occasionally, and I'd stay up till 2 or 3 am hoping that there would be one...
She's a Boy I Knew helped with being okay with not being a particularly femme trans girl. And I got to meet Gwen. :) Gave it to my parents to watch too.
Quote from: Sarah7 on September 17, 2011, 08:52:03 AM
She's a Boy I Knew helped with being okay with not being a particularly femme trans girl. And I got to meet Gwen. :)...
I just had an envygasm :). I wrote to Gwen to thank her after watching that film, but got no reply (yet...)
->-bleeped-<-ing Åmal is a great film - it made me laugh a lot (and roll my eyes) when I heard that it was released in the US as "Show Me Love" ::).
Quote from: Padma on September 17, 2011, 09:20:15 AM
I just had an envygasm :). I wrote to Gwen to thank her after watching that film, but got no reply (yet...)
She came to the youth group I was going to in Vancouver at the time (that's where she's from, Vancouver). I was still not on hormones, and terrified and shy, so I didn't say anything. But she was really nice, and hung around to answer questions about how things are now since where the film left off. She had dyed her hair black, and it was cut just to her jaw, and she was wearing jeans and a green jacket, and she was totally confident and butch and gorgeous and awesome.
She told a story about how right after she had her surgery she cut her hair back super short and dyed it platinum and was wearing her old punk black leather jacket. She showed her ID at a train station, which of course had a picture from right after she came out and switched over and was an all femmed-out version of her, and the security guy said "Good luck with everything, man!" She was walking away when she realized he thought she was a trans guy who was just starting out. :)