Hello,
has anyone tried those pills that contain raw ovary,uterus etc. glandulars from bovine sources?
What about feminol or evanesce?
Are those customer feedbacks fake on product's site?
I dont think this is suitable for discussion....
Reported
R >:D
I agree with Renate, save your money and find a therapist, get an HRT letter and go through the proper channels. All of those lame pills that they try and sell to people are a ripoff and nothing more. Proper HRT is the only way to go.
Ground up powerered DRY AND DENATURED to be medically sterile, COW bits?.... mmmm youd get more estrogen from a good steak....
R >:D
See a doctor. Hormones can kill you.
Yeah seriously go the proffesional route. Also if any of those products had any potency how the heck are you going to know your on a steady dose. Real HRT oh lets see Xmg of this and that. Easy. I first tryed those "herbal estrogens" to no effect so it really is a waste of time, and not to mention liver tissue.
Audrey
OMFG audrey! the new do rocks babe :D
R >:D
Quote from: m.antonis on March 06, 2008, 05:31:34 AM
Hello,
has anyone tried those pills that contain raw ovary,uterus etc. glandulars from bovine sources?
What about feminol or evanesce?
Are those customer feedbacks fake on product's site?
First off, no one should EVER alter with their body's chemistry without a doctor supervision. Taking enough hormones to cause body alteration will cause liver damage and can cause blood clots. These blood clots can lead to pulminary embolism, strokes, heart attacks and death.
Second, the only way to legally and safely get enough estrogen in your system is by way of your physician. That also means seeing a counselor and starting the entire transition process.
This is very serious stuff. Stay away from anything that is over-the-counter, mail order and black/gray market in terms of being an estrogen source. Stay alive - go through your physician.
Chaunte
don't take it .
They have higher risks than regular HRT and gave you NO results. Plus they are a lot more expensive...
Why be stupid?
I can understand the reasons why some people go the self medication route, especially in the U.K where in some cases it has been very hard to access hormone treatment though the NHS. I had to see a private consultant to start on hormone therapy which was expensive as I didn't want to go the self medication route....
I'm sure in the U.S it's much easier and there are no excuses to self medicate..
Because some people just cant access the treatment... i disagree with this site's policy tbh, i wont go against it, but i do disagree... considering how close to death some transpeople are, getting hrt can save thier life....
i know it did mine.
If id had to wait another 4 years to see at therapist. i wouldnt be alive now...
R >:D
^ I do agree witht that Raheal hon. It's just some people are just very dumb and don't take the time to at least read up on what their putting in their bodies and how to take effective amounts.
It depends for your reasons of self-medicating to be honest. If your pretty sure your in good health, have done your research but are self-medicating because of a lack of therapists, parents understanding than it's a whole different issue.
- But don't expect self-medicating to last long, soon enough your going to need a therapist for transition..
Quote from: Rachael on March 10, 2008, 07:35:57 AM
Because some people just cant access the treatment... i disagree with this site's policy tbh, i wont go against it, but i do disagree... considering how close to death some transpeople are, getting hrt can save thier life....
i know it did mine.
If id had to wait another 4 years to see at therapist. i wouldnt be alive now...
R >:D
Yup, I agree. I started myself on the black market too for at the time, being a poor trans immigrant, there was no chance of going through the normal channels like most everyone. Was I supposed to languish
years in that old flesh of mine? Nah. I've always been quite sure of who I am and I'm an adult responsible for her actions.
I'm not advocating or discussing self-medication though, if anything for the site rules (which I don't mind) and also because I think that if you can follow the Standards of Care, you should. They are the safest, tried-and-true way to get this mess to a good end.
Quote from: soldierjane on March 10, 2008, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Rachael on March 10, 2008, 07:35:57 AM
Because some people just cant access the treatment... i disagree with this site's policy tbh, i wont go against it, but i do disagree... considering how close to death some transpeople are, getting hrt can save thier life....
i know it did mine.
If id had to wait another 4 years to see at therapist. i wouldnt be alive now...
R >:D
Yup, I agree. I started myself on the black market too for at the time, being a poor trans immigrant, there was no chance of going through the normal channels like most everyone. Was I supposed to languish years in that old flesh of mine? Nah. I've always been quite sure of who I am and I'm an adult responsible for her actions.
I'm not advocating or discussing self-medication though, if anything for the site rules (which I don't mind) and also because I think that if you can follow the Standards of Care, you should. They are the safest, tried-and-true way to get this mess to a good end.
I know that the psychiatrists who work within the U.K NHS system make it very hard for anyone who wants to start on hormones......and many get refused at the start. I fought with the NHS system for nearly two years to access hormones and in the end had no option other than to see a private consultant who quite rightly put me on them the same afternoon as I saw him.
Anyone who lives in the U.K and is transsexual should research their options thoroughly before entering into the nightmare sinario of the NHS treatment system....
Quote from: Berliegh on March 11, 2008, 02:34:26 AM
I know that the psychiatrists who work within the U.K NHS system make it very hard for anyone who wants to start on hormones......and many get refused at the start. I fought with the NHS system for nearly two years to access hormones and in the end had no option other than to see a private consultant who quite rightly put me on them the same afternoon as I saw him.
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well here's my opinion. If an individaul starts going the self-medication route and have been on it for a WHILE like 1-2 years, they like the effects, they are calmer, no erections don't bother them and they also like physical changes than I would say in my opinion- any therapist with common sense should give them a refferal leter for HRT after a couple sessions of 3 months RIGHT AWAY. So they can finally get a doctor to monitor their health....
But any person that really isn't trans and takes HRT- they won't have a very pleasant experience...Real men will got nuts once they find out their developing breasts and their erections are gone...
Quote from: Tanya1 on March 11, 2008, 03:37:23 PM
Quote from: Berliegh on March 11, 2008, 02:34:26 AM
I know that the psychiatrists who work within the U.K NHS system make it very hard for anyone who wants to start on hormones......and many get refused at the start. I fought with the NHS system for nearly two years to access hormones and in the end had no option other than to see a private consultant who quite rightly put me on them the same afternoon as I saw him.
well here's my opinion. If an individaul starts going the self-medication route and have been on it for a WHILE like 1-2 years, they like the effects, they are calmer, no erections don't bother them and they also like physical changes than I would say in my opinion- any therapist with common sense should give them a refferal leter for HRT after a couple sessions of 3 months RIGHT AWAY. So they can finally get a doctor to monitor their health....
But any person that really isn't trans and takes HRT- they won't have a very pleasant experience...Real men will got nuts once they find out their developing breasts and their erections are gone...
That's true.....put people on HRT straight away and the one's who don't like the effects will soon stop. That was U.K's Private consultant Russell Reid's theory but the psychiatrists at Charing Cross didn't like his way of working took him to court over it........I'm glad to say he was acquitted.....but it highlights my point about the NHS working against the transsexual community..