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Title: Occam's razor
Post by: lisagurl on March 09, 2008, 02:42:58 PM
Frustra fit per plura quod potest fieri per pauciora

The razor can cut to the chase and reduce the metaphysics of thought. There is no reason to walk on it. Let the facts of probability be your guide. There are those who plug in subjective emotions only and call it rationality. I call it a romance novel. :-*
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: NicholeW. on March 15, 2008, 06:51:51 AM
In using the jewel of discrimination I find that I am not sure of your point, except that perhaps this relates to an ongoing dissonance between us of what we each term 'rational.'

I think after many years we both pretty much get that I appreciate Hindu/Buddhist metaphysics (I find them good descriptions of reality) and that perhaps your appreciation for them is less enthusiastic.  ;)

No problem there.

A suggestion I change the title?

Darn! Has L taught you Latin?  :laugh:

Hope both of you are well.

And would this be more appropriate to pm? I am sorta leaning that way myself.

N~
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: cindianna_jones on March 15, 2008, 01:55:04 PM
Veni, vedi, vici

Ut totus latin EGO teneo.

Cindi
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: Ell on May 09, 2008, 12:06:09 AM
Quote from: lisagurl on March 09, 2008, 02:42:58 PM
Frustra fit per plura quod potest fieri per pauciora

The razor can cut to the chase and reduce the metaphysics of thought. There is no reason to walk on it. Let the facts of probability be your guide. There are those who plug in subjective emotions only and call it rationality. I call it a romance novel. :-*

i didn't know you could go to someone else's blog and make your own thread.

In hoc signo vinces

Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: tekla on May 09, 2008, 01:08:44 AM
To answer the original question, without resorting to google latin, otherwise I might quote

Semper ubi sub ubi

but, when you say it sounds slightly different then in fact it reads, but hey, its Susan's Place, grammar don't matter do it?....  Well, not in English, so in latin......


Occam was right.  Almost always.  The easy answer it the right answer, not matter how much the other people protest.


Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: cindybc on May 09, 2008, 01:16:28 AM
Hi ya all, whatcha all tawkin aboot? Cindy scrathes head, "ouch!!!" dang sliver.

Cindy
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: Ell on May 09, 2008, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: cindybc on May 09, 2008, 01:16:28 AM
Hi ya all, whatcha all tawkin aboot? Cindy scrathes head, "ouch!!!" dang sliver.

Cindy

hi baby cindy. i actually don't know what i'm taking about.  In hoc signo vinces was just something i used to read on Pall Mall's.

-Ell
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: Lisbeth on May 09, 2008, 01:45:59 PM
Quote from: tekla on May 09, 2008, 01:08:44 AM
To answer the original question, without resorting to google latin, otherwise I might quote

Semper ubi sub ubi

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!  I haven't heard that in 30 years!

Quote from: ell on May 09, 2008, 11:29:56 AM
hi baby cindy. i actually don't know what i'm taking about.  In hoc signo vinces was just something i used to read on Pall Mall's.

-Ell

"In this sign (of the cross) you will conquer."  I prefer "In hoka signo vinces" (http://www.amazon.com/Hoka-Gordon-Dickson/dp/0671577743).
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: Sandy on May 09, 2008, 02:36:50 PM
Sometimes Occam's razor doesn't apply.

It would have been much easer for me to not transition...


-Sandy(in hoc mucho grande) ;)
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: cindybc on May 09, 2008, 02:51:59 PM
Muchos gracious Senorita, but me only speak French, English and Ojibwa. Me ouis vou et bienvenue madam Ell. I'm a lousy speller in all three languages, even Martian, "bleep bleep." How many diferent ways can you spell the word "bleep?"

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi11.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa191%2Fcynthiag932%2Ffairiescarolynandme-1.jpg&hash=6f2933297f8a26a04b09ec16fe4522457d9228bf)

Cindy
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: NicholeW. on May 09, 2008, 03:16:09 PM
Quote from: ell on May 09, 2008, 12:06:09 AM
Quote from: lisagurl on March 09, 2008, 02:42:58 PM
Frustra fit per plura quod potest fieri per pauciora

The razor can cut to the chase and reduce the metaphysics of thought. There is no reason to walk on it. Let the facts of probability be your guide. There are those who plug in subjective emotions only and call it rationality. I call it a romance novel. :-*

i didn't know you could go to someone else's blog and make your own thread.

In hoc signo vinces



Apparently you can, at least until the Blog Moderator gets tired of seeing the message grow. Then, she moves it, in this case, to general discussions.

N~ Venceremos! No doubt that will maintain the poor grammar in the thread. *smile*
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: Pica Pica on May 09, 2008, 09:20:39 PM
metalla est in horto.
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: Seshatneferw on May 12, 2008, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: Lisbeth on May 09, 2008, 01:45:59 PM
I prefer "In hoka signo vinces" (http://www.amazon.com/Hoka-Gordon-Dickson/dp/0671577743).

"Sorry, Angus. We're dodging invisible space torpedoes." Indeed.  :D
(The stupid bit about these stories is that there doesn't seem to be a comprehensive collection. Had to buy a couple of almost-identical books to get them all. Grumble.)

Cheers!

  Nfr
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: Constance on May 12, 2008, 11:43:03 AM
Quote from: tekla on May 09, 2008, 01:08:44 AM
Occam was right.  Almost always.  The easy answer it the right answer, not matter how much the other people protest.
This is not really true. In tech support, the easy answer is the fast answer. But, the complete answer that keeps the problem from resurfacing is not the quick easy fix.

Likewise with issues of gender identity. The easy answer to is to just stay the way one is born. This might be the right answer in some cases. In others, it's very wrong.
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: Lisbeth on May 12, 2008, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on May 12, 2008, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: Lisbeth on May 09, 2008, 01:45:59 PM
I prefer "In hoka signo vinces" (http://www.amazon.com/Hoka-Gordon-Dickson/dp/0671577743).

"Sorry, Angus. We're dodging invisible space torpedoes." Indeed.  :D
(The stupid bit about these stories is that there doesn't seem to be a comprehensive collection. Had to buy a couple of almost-identical books to get them all. Grumble.)

Cheers!

  Nfr

Not any more there isn't.  Back in the day, if you had Earthman's Burdon and Hoka you had them all.
Title: Re: Occam's razor
Post by: Chaunte on May 14, 2008, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on May 12, 2008, 11:43:03 AM

Likewise with issues of gender identity. The easy answer to is to just stay the way one is born. This might be the right answer in some cases. In others, it's very wrong.

I think Occam might have a different take on gender identity.  The simplest answer is, "Exsisto quisnam vos es."  Be who you are.

Which is simpler?  Being who you are or pretending to be someone you are not?

Chaunte