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Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: Pica Pica on April 07, 2008, 08:16:27 PM

Title: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Pica Pica on April 07, 2008, 08:16:27 PM
It's a video about the feeling of being androgyne, especially before I even considered or found out about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPv46g9dQk
http://androgyne.weebly.com/-androgyne-experience.html
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Nero on April 07, 2008, 08:39:19 PM
I'd say it's visually interesting enough.
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Shana A on April 07, 2008, 09:03:48 PM
Excellent! I don't know how much my feelings of not fitting in relate to being androgyne, or just that I've always been an artistic loner who doesn't fit in. But certainly, figuring out that I'm transgender and/or androgyne has helped. And finding all of you kindred spirits here has been good too  ;D

OK darling, get back to finishing your deadline  ;) Or else make us another couple of videos >:D 

Z
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Jaimey on April 10, 2008, 07:23:24 PM
sitting around eating cheese...is that what the English do when they have spare time?  hehe.  I just really liked that line...and seriously, I could listen to you talk all day.

Well spoken as always.  I really related to what you said about trying to talk to people, but not having them talk back and also about it not feeling like a gender thing because we don't have that basis.  Well done!
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Pica Pica on April 10, 2008, 07:45:39 PM
wouldn't you sit around eating cheese?
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Jaimey on April 10, 2008, 07:57:12 PM
actually...yes. Yes, I would.  But the cheese is all the way across the apartment...
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Shana A on April 10, 2008, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 10, 2008, 07:45:39 PM
wouldn't you sit around eating cheese?


But of course. With a nice glass of wine  ;D

Z
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Pica Pica on April 10, 2008, 08:10:31 PM
i'm drinking cherry wine at the moment
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: NickSister on April 13, 2008, 03:26:11 PM
I really liked this video Pica, even better than the 'what an androgyne isn't' video. Maybe it was the Kiwi fruit, made me feel at home being a kiwi in all (though I think they originate in china as in "Chinese gooseberries"). Not that I like Kiwi fruit - makes me mouth feel all shredded. But they are a piece of kiwiana - we tend to have the on Pavlova (kind of a cake made from egg whites and sugar).

Made me sad though. Reminded me of my own confused childhood, feeling lost, disjointed, outside. I still feel like that more of less. I might make my own videos as a more non-cerebral emotive counterpart to your vids. Still not sure if I want to put myself out there like that though, my wife would not be happy.




Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 06:13:07 PM
i do like a pavlova, maybe for another vid. Content was better on this one, even if their was less flouncing.
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: NickSister on April 13, 2008, 07:29:37 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 06:13:07 PM
i do like a pavlova, maybe for another vid. Content was better on this one, even if their was less flouncing.

I agree, I think the content was better.

You have a really nice way of presenting things. Do you lecture, teach or public speak? I think you would be good at it.
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 08:00:12 PM
I grew up in the theatre and reading at church, I'm a shoddy actor though. I present too much.
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 13, 2008, 08:46:21 PM
My question -


If you try to describe this to a non-androgyne, would they truly understand, or would they just say "everybody feels like that"?  Essentially write it off as something they believe they understand?

Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 08:54:08 PM
dunno, might need to interview defined non androgynes and non Ts.s
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Nero on April 13, 2008, 08:57:16 PM
'dunno' just won't cut it, ginger. Pica, oh philosopher to the ancients - enlighten us.
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 13, 2008, 08:58:10 PM

Yeah.  We demand to see the EVIDENCE!
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 09:05:20 PM
i got no idea, i'm making it up as i go along, isn't everyone?
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Nero on April 13, 2008, 09:17:17 PM
ahh-ight. guess we can leave our little genius alone for now.
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Shana A on April 13, 2008, 10:43:20 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 09:05:20 PM
i got no idea, i'm making it up as i go along, isn't everyone?

I am  ;D

Z
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: NickSister on April 14, 2008, 04:12:26 AM
Quote from: Rebis on April 13, 2008, 08:46:21 PM
If you try to describe this to a non-androgyne, would they truly understand, or would they just say "everybody feels like that"?  Essentially write it off as something they believe they understand?

I think that they probably won't understand it any more than it is for us to understand them. I once assumed that everyone felt like I do but they don't.

But I think one of Picas missions is to make it easier for other androgynes to realise what they are. They are the ones that will get it and maybe they will feel that little bit better about understanding themselves and knowing they are not alone.
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: RebeccaFog on April 14, 2008, 07:43:44 AM

You are not alone, My Children.      :angel:
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Seshatneferw on April 14, 2008, 07:59:07 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 09:05:20 PM
i got no idea, i'm making it up as i go along

Spoken like a true androgyne.  :)

  Nfr
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Shana A on April 14, 2008, 08:06:47 AM
Quote from: Seshatneferw on April 14, 2008, 07:59:07 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 09:05:20 PM
i got no idea, i'm making it up as i go along

Spoken like a true androgyne.  :)

  Nfr


OMG, I hope we don't get into trying to define "true androgyne"...  ;) :P :laugh:

Z
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: sd on April 14, 2008, 11:44:47 AM
I have tried explaining it on a forum I run.

About half thought I was just like them, the other half think I am a transsexual, a very small percentage sort of got it and said it must be confusing.

The one thing that got the few to get it at all was explaining clothes shopping, going from the men's section into the women's section and not noticing. I am not entirely sure why (I have some ideas) but this was the one thing that made the few understand it a little.
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Pica Pica on April 14, 2008, 06:15:03 PM
do you not notice, or do you just not feel it applies.
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Shana A on April 14, 2008, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: sd on April 14, 2008, 11:44:47 AM
The one thing that got the few to get it at all was explaining clothes shopping, going from the men's section into the women's section and not noticing. I am not entirely sure why (I have some ideas) but this was the one thing that made the few understand it a little.

The main thing I notice is that the colors and patterns are more interesting in the women's section.

Z
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: sd on April 14, 2008, 10:11:55 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 14, 2008, 06:15:03 PM
do you not notice, or do you just not feel it applies.
A bit of both.
Title: Re: Video about Androgyne Experience
Post by: Jaimey on April 15, 2008, 09:20:45 PM
the only reason I shop in the women's section is because boys clothes don't fit.  bleah.  it is kind of weird though.  shirts are always too big on top, through the shoulders and chest, the sleeves in long sleeved shirts hang past my finger tips, but the shirts are always too small around the hips.  *sigh*  i wish there was a magic ass shrinking pill or something...

colors, shmolors.  I prefer black, white, and gray.  Perhaps the occasional green or blue.  And pink!  I do love pink.  Pink and black go wonderfully together.  Yeah, I'm not androgyne...heh.