Yey to days off. Can write and make videos and play in the park.
This video is about what i don't think an androgyne is...namely, apersonal choice to confuse the 'normals'.
Is it my nazi side coming in, I'm not saying I don't like those people - I'm just saying that I think they are not the people I'm talking about when I say this stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjW1rZmYVqU
ROFL. Love the intro! It's like one of those little regional programs. All you need is a voice-over announcement saying something like "This ... is Pica-vision." in a James Earl Jones voice.
Thanks. Needed a pick-me-up today.
~Simone
Wonderful Pica! I like the dress too ;D
In the past various friends have asked me if I were doing this to be political. I am an activist, but that isn't why I feel the need to express my gender differently. It's simply who I am.
Z
Pica,
You forgot to include (for us older folks) that being an androgyne isn't something you do to freak out your kids!
;)
I always forget about that :)
Are you trying to give me a coronary? :laugh:
You've got a more female body than I do, cept my tits are bigger, of course.
y'what?
I'm all hands and feet and shoulders and hair. None of which very womanly things.
Whatever you say, jelly babe.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 09, 2008, 05:51:17 PM
y'what?
I'm all hands and feet and shoulders and hair. None of which very womanly things.
Actually Pica, when you were facing camera directly without being able to see sideburns, you looked very female. ;D
Z
That was brilliant! (You certainly pull off wearing a dress better than I ever could).
QuoteYou've got a more female body than I do, cept my tits are bigger, of course.
You can have my tits if you want, I'm sick of them. ::) Why can't we be like the Gethenians in
The Left Hand of Darkness and be androgynous most of the time, and then choose (so-to-speak) what sex we are when it's "that time of the month"? That would be so much easier...
And that really is a wonderful accent. :)
Quote from: Zythyra on April 09, 2008, 09:04:44 PM
Actually Pica, when you were facing camera directly without being able to see sideburns, you looked very female. ;D
Z
I thought the same thing.
You pulled off that look rather well Pica, shave those sideburns and you could do it.
Now the question on everyone's mind is... Where did you get the dress? :laugh:
Posted on: April 09, 2008, 09:39:12 PM
By the way, nice video Pica, as usual we found something to focus on rather than the real topic.
Oh look, pretty colors!
Pretty colours and swirly dresses'll do it for me every time. :laugh:
Anyhoo, back to businesoooooooooooooooo pretty butterfly!
Quite, quite normal... :icon_nervious:
Speaking of which - sorry, ranty unrelated tangent that I need to get out of my system - I just realized ('cause I'm smart, see :icon_hahano: :eusa_doh::P) that the last thing I wrote here, my time, was actually at about 11:00 on Thursday April 10, while the following post (sd) was last night for me. So I wrote something, and the response appears after it on the board, but for me it actually came the night before. Oh, that's confusing. I so don't get time differences. :icon_dizzy:
Anyway, yeah, sorry, pointlessness over.
As for the video, I guess I'd never really thought about it, but are there actually people who *choose* to be androgynes (and not just appear androgynous)? 'Cause I have trouble trying to imagine people voluntarily choosing to be/become something so confusing. Are there big androgyne communities (?) where you guys are? 'Cause I've never really heard of much of an androgyne movement here...
And is there a collective term for a group of androgynes? 'Cause "guys" somehow just doesn't quite fit. :P
I think some people adopt it as a way to shock and promote discussion. And people that choose androgyne (or genderqueer etc...) because of the confusion.
I don't know about communities of androgynes. I wonder how many monks and monkesses are andro?
ps
I love my sideburns too much.
ps ps
A group of androgynes... a group? :)
I think you have a feminine form too. I thought it before I read Nero's post. Remember, feminine forms used to be different and not movie stars and models.
Pica Pica you have a brilliant English accent! ;D
Quote from: Jay on April 10, 2008, 07:42:36 AM
Pica Pica you have a brilliant English accent! ;D
Don't you got one too? Would love to hear it. :)
Quote from: Nero on April 10, 2008, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: Jay on April 10, 2008, 07:42:36 AM
Pica Pica you have a brilliant English accent! ;D
Don't you got one too? Would love to hear it. :)
Well lets just say Pica Picas accent is far more "british" than mine.. I have been born and raised in the country so its a bit hic like! :-X
Oh, we've got 'hic' country accents here too. What would be a 'hic' English accent?
Another wonderful video (that I actually watched on the other thread after the first one was over)! I like how you keep doing things to make your video more visually interesting. :D First a kiwi, this time a dress...for your next video, I think the androgyne thong you had on cafe press would be appropriate. :icon_yes:
Anyhoo...keep the videos coming! And by the way, I could see down your dress! :icon_eyebrow: hehe...
I'm such a perv... :'(
I am sometimes quite proud of my cleavage.
Alas, due to the fact cafe press only accept credit and not debit, I can't buy anything from my cafe press shop. Not even the thong.
Also, I have been feeling a bit girlier recently (would you have guessed?) and am actually quite enjoying the comments on my physique.
Jay: Where are you from? Cos I have a Crawley accent that has been weakened by moving. It's the marriage of london and sussex yokel.
Quote from: Jaimey on April 10, 2008, 07:34:09 PM
Anyhoo...keep the videos coming! And by the way, I could see down your dress! :icon_eyebrow: hehe...
I'm such a perv... :'(
Yes Jaimey, you are ;) I'm glad I've been properly warned before putting up my own video :P
Z
hey, i've whipped my boobs out - everyone elses turn now.
Quote from: Jaimey on April 10, 2008, 07:34:09 PM
Anyhoo...keep the videos coming! And by the way, I could see down your dress! :icon_eyebrow: hehe...
I'm such a perv... :'(
Watch it.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 10, 2008, 08:12:53 PM
hey, i've whipped my boobs out - everyone elses turn now.
Hmmmm, nice try ;)
Z
Quote from: Nero on April 10, 2008, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: Jaimey on April 10, 2008, 07:34:09 PM
Anyhoo...keep the videos coming! And by the way, I could see down your dress! :icon_eyebrow: hehe...
I'm such a perv... :'(
Watch it.
I though that's what Jaimey was doing. :laugh:
Quote from: Nero on April 10, 2008, 10:29:07 AM
Oh, we've got 'hic' country accents here too. What would be a 'hic' English accent?
Norfolk! Oh yeah! Country Bumkin.. If I find a way to upload myself I will do.. just finding a way..
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 10, 2008, 07:43:13 PM
Jay: Where are you from? Cos I have a Crawley accent that has been weakened by moving. It's the marriage of london and sussex yokel.
Yep norfolk.. not as bad as the cornish accent but not any better.. Yeah but it sounds quite "posh" I like it..
Norfolk - I nearly moved to Norwich 'stead of london for their writing course. (It's one of the best in the world oddly) They said the writing was good enough but that my previous poor degree mark implied that I might not stick through the course...so I'm here.
Haha! That wa great.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 09, 2008, 09:11:40 AM
Yey to days off. Can write and make videos and play in the park.
This video is about what i don't think an androgyne is...namely, apersonal choice to confuse the 'normals'.
Is it my nazi side coming in, I'm not saying I don't like those people - I'm just saying that I think they are not the people I'm talking about when I say this stuff.
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i don't know if i'm supposed to take offense at this or not?
but, ehm, it's not Androgyne as in Andro - guy (n)
it's Androgyne as in Andro - jyne
the pronunciation of the g is soft, as in
vagina-Ellie
Pica likes a vagina with a hard G :laugh:
:laugh:
I don't even know what to make of that one
Quote from: Rebis on April 11, 2008, 04:16:23 PM
I don't even know what to make of that one
None of us know what to make of that one ;) :laugh:
Z
Quote from: ell on April 11, 2008, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 09, 2008, 09:11:40 AM
Yey to days off. Can write and make videos and play in the park.
This video is about what i don't think an androgyne is...namely, apersonal choice to confuse the 'normals'.
Is it my nazi side coming in, I'm not saying I don't like those people - I'm just saying that I think they are not the people I'm talking about when I say this stuff.
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i don't know if i'm supposed to take offense at this or not?
but, ehm, it's not Androgyne as in Andro - guy (n)
it's Androgyne as in Andro - jyne
the pronunciation of the g is soft, as in vagina
-Ellie
Just rewatched it. Pica is talking about the more militant androgynees and the ones who have some ulterior motive for acting or dressing androgynously.
As for pronunciation, sie obviously hasn't learned how to properly pronounce it yet. An-dro-jin-ee
But, I suppose we can cut hir some slack this once.
Militant?
as in "Why Are Militant Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?"
Am I pronouncing it right? Maybe I need to ask my jynocologist. *grin*
I pronounce as whim takes, doesn't everyone else?
Anyway, Andro-Jine sounds too much like Blackgang Chine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackgang_chine)
Shouldn't take offence... all it is about is the people who chose to define themselves androgyne for political or confrontational reasons as opposed to personal ones.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 11, 2008, 08:10:24 PM
I pronounce as whim takes, doesn't everyone else?
Anyway, Andro-Jine sounds too much like Blackgang Chine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackgang_chine)
Shouldn't take offence... all it is about is the people who chose to define themselves androgyne for political or confrontational reasons as opposed to personal ones.
Pronounce it anyway you please, so long as you're wearing that dress.
Quote from: ell on April 11, 2008, 06:13:14 PM
Militant?
as in "Why Are Militant Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?"
Militant androgynes will short you by one sugar in your tea or coffee. They have no decency.
According to various online dictionaries, it can be pronounced any way you like, except the hard g (checking more you may find that is acceptable as well).
Quote from: Rebis on April 11, 2008, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: ell on April 11, 2008, 06:13:14 PM
Militant?
as in "Why Are Militant Androgynes of Such a Mild Temperament?"
Militant androgynes will short you by one sugar in your tea or coffee. They have no decency.
i just knew there'd be a catch.
I really enjoyed your video pica pica. The twirl was fab.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 11, 2008, 08:10:24 PM
I pronounce as whim takes, doesn't everyone else?
no, but then, well, the English are always bastardizing the language.
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 11, 2008, 08:10:24 PM
I pronounce as whim takes, doesn't everyone else?
no, but then, well, the English are always bastardizing the language.
only reason it's still going. Long may the users have the means of language production...
...and Nicksister, I hope you were taking the proverbial - that was not a pratfall - I literally can not twirl without nearly plummeting to ground.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 11, 2008, 08:10:24 PM
I pronounce as whim takes, doesn't everyone else?
no, but then, well, the English are always bastardizing the language.
only reason it's still going. Long may the users have the means of language production...
oh my, you're in a rather, um, tit for tat mood. i was joking. i accidentally said 'the English'. what i meant was, 'the Canadians'. sorry.
I'm not, it's one of those things I am especially proud of.
I love the bastardisation of the language.
Tit:
QuoteI love the bastardisation of the language.
Tat: i said bastardi
zation!
hehe
your american zees do nothing against my british s's.
plus also, it's zeds not zees. :)
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 07:08:37 PM
hehe
your american zees do nothing against my british s's.
plus also, it's zeds not zees. :)
(aside) oh dear, i can't think of an insult. how does one get an androgyne's goat?
Pica, you little dress-wearing, misspelling, non-pronouncing, video-logging girl/boy, you.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
only reason it's still going. Long may the users have the means of language production...
...and Nicksister, I hope you were taking the proverbial - that was not a pratfall - I literally can not twirl without nearly plummeting to ground.
I was not taking the piss, You looked like you enjoyed it. It was awfully endearing Kiss
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 07:19:19 PM
(aside) oh dear, i can't think of an insult. how does one get an androgyne's goat?
I could tell you, but then they would kill us both.
Quote from: sd on April 13, 2008, 07:24:32 PM
I could tell you, but then they would kill us both.
...eliminate them..... :icon_chainsaw:
I was thinking of writing this post in engrish, but I was afraid the thread would explode. :laugh:
I've been thinking about what you said about Androgyne (I use "jine" so it must be right...I mean, I am God after all) not being a gender identity. I really agree with that. You've really got me thinking. It's really a way of experience the world, to me anyway. It's almost strange to say that we have a gender issue if we don't really have a gender. Well, that's what I think anyway. Thanks again for your wonderful videos!
oh yeah...there's no sugar in biscuits. Those are cookies. :P
Quote from: NickSister on April 13, 2008, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
only reason it's still going. Long may the users have the means of language production...
...and Nicksister, I hope you were taking the proverbial - that was not a pratfall - I literally can not twirl without nearly plummeting to ground.
I was not taking the piss, You looked like you enjoyed it. It was awfully endearing Kiss
It made me realise afternoons missed running around the park in a dress.....
oh, and sorry, I mucked with your post, because i pressed modify instead of reply... sorry.
and endearing??? cheers, I was worried you meant graceful ;D
Quote from: NickSister on April 13, 2008, 07:26:36 PM
Quote from: sd on April 13, 2008, 07:24:32 PM
I could tell you, but then they would kill us both.
...eliminate them..... :icon_chainsaw:
Hey, watch where you aim that thing!
My lips are sealed. :eusa_silenced:
Quote from: sd on April 13, 2008, 08:13:21 PM
Quote from: NickSister on April 13, 2008, 07:26:36 PM
Quote from: sd on April 13, 2008, 07:24:32 PM
I could tell you, but then they would kill us both.
...eliminate them..... :icon_chainsaw:
Hey, watch where you aim that thing!
My lips are sealed. :eusa_silenced:
We should know. After cutting them off, we sewed them together. >:D
Quote from: Rebis on April 13, 2008, 08:16:38 PM
Quote from: sd on April 13, 2008, 08:13:21 PM
Quote from: NickSister on April 13, 2008, 07:26:36 PM
Quote from: sd on April 13, 2008, 07:24:32 PM
I could tell you, but then they would kill us both.
...eliminate them..... :icon_chainsaw:
Hey, watch where you aim that thing!
My lips are sealed. :eusa_silenced:
We should know. After cutting them off, we sewed them together. >:D
Of all the dirty rotten things... :laugh:
That's us - dirty rotten things.
You knew the rules when you signed up. >:(
I think we are all forgetting the important point here.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 08:30:55 PM
I think we are all forgetting the important point here.
Don't talk about Fight Club?
No.
About how nice I look... obviouslt :angel:
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 08:33:30 PM
No.
About how nice I look... obviouslt :angel:
The Ego rears its ugly head again.
it's the gap where an ego will fill.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 13, 2008, 08:48:31 PM
it's the gap where an ego will fill.
and uh just what is the circumference of said 'gap'?
5 pence piece.
and what filled said gap before Ego's arrival?
shame and guilt ;D
Your ego definitely deserved the stroking it got. That was a wonderful performance, that and the preceding tape both. The dress especially, though. Wonderful. I even re-ran the video with the sound off so I could pay more attention to it. It looked so natural, so right on you. My only quibble: the straps seem twisted. But all in all, there was nothing to cause you either shame or guilt. Congratulations.
S
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 07:19:19 PM
(aside) oh dear, i can't think of an insult. how does one get an androgyne's goat?
I imagine a collar and leash would be pretty effective. *considers possibilities* :eusa_think:
Quoteit's the gap where an ego will fill.
And where, pray tell, would aforementioned gap be? :icon_wink:
And they're biscuits, not cookies. :P Cookies are the things on the Internet. That my computer has *issues* with. >:( (Along with trojans, adware, spyware, and apparently every other virus under the sun >:( :'( :-\ >:().
Quote(aside) oh dear, i can't think of an insult. how does one get an androgyne's goat?
It is because of the (brilliant) book
Animal Farm that I always associate the name Muriel with goats. My grandmother has a friend called Muriel, and all I can imagine when I hear about her is flower-chomping goats. (The goat in
Animal Farm was called Muriel, by the way. It's not some random "I read
Animal Farm and now think of all Muriels as goats" thing. Just in case you thought I was, you know, a little bit
weird or something :icon_crazy:).
Back on the topic of gender (how melodramatically unexpected!), my brother was at work the other day, and as Mum had already dropped him off (he can't drive yet), Dad and I were figuring out who would pick him up, and Mum said to Dad, "You go have a shower [he'd just been for a run], and let him pick him up. I mean her, let her pick him up." Even though she corrected herself, it still felt *right*. I've been called "him" and "he" before - I have a name that isn't indicative of my sex, and so if people hear it but don't see me, they always seem to refer to me as "he" - and it has *always* felt more right than any female pronoun.
(I'd originally been going to share this in the "Pronoun" thread, but when I tried it came up with
BIG SCARY RED writing...so sorry, but it's here instead :P).
Lutin
(Can you tell I've just figured out how to change font size and style? Ooooooh it's exciting!!!)
The Cuisine of the Italian Jews, Volume II, has a Passover recipe for young goat, so if I get anyone's goat, we'll have it this weekend--unless their goose is already cooked. My daughter is a Sweeny Todd fan. She can help me. Is anyone game?
S
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 11, 2008, 06:49:04 AM
Norfolk - I nearly moved to Norwich 'stead of london for their writing course. (It's one of the best in the world oddly) They said the writing was good enough but that my previous poor degree mark implied that I might not stick through the course...so I'm here.
Damn buddy you could have been living it up within the marvolus Norfolk.. I would have chosen LONDON anyday over here!
Quote from: Lisbeth on April 14, 2008, 08:28:28 AM
Quote from: ell on April 13, 2008, 07:19:19 PM
(aside) oh dear, i can't think of an insult. how does one get an androgyne's goat?
I imagine a collar and leash would be pretty effective. *considers possibilities* :eusa_think:
Mmmm... imagining those possibilities... <blushes> :embarrassed:
Quote from: Simone Louise on April 14, 2008, 09:34:28 AM
The Cuisine of the Italian Jews, Volume II, has a Passover recipe for young goat, so if I get anyone's goat, we'll have it this weekend--unless their goose is already cooked. My daughter is a Sweeny Todd fan. She can help me. Is anyone game?
S
Oh, maybe I don't want to be a goat this week ;)
Z
Quote from: Simone Louise on April 14, 2008, 09:34:28 AM
The Cuisine of the Italian Jews, Volume II, has a Passover recipe for young goat, so if I get anyone's goat, we'll have it this weekend--unless their goose is already cooked. My daughter is a Sweeny Todd fan. She can help me. Is anyone game?
I quite like goat. Occassionaly when I'm out shooting goats I'll get a young one and take it home. My uncle likes to make curries so I just drop it off to him. Saves me having to butcher it :laugh:
Quote from: NickSister on April 14, 2008, 03:49:27 PM
I quite like goat. Occassionaly when I'm out shooting goats I'll get a young one and take it home. My uncle likes to make curries so I just drop it off to him. Saves me having to butcher it :laugh:
Ah ha ha! huh?
Quote from: Lutin on April 14, 2008, 09:10:44 AM
And they're biscuits, not cookies. :P Cookies are the things on the Internet. That my computer has *issues* with. >:( (Along with trojans, adware, spyware, and apparently every other virus under the sun >:( :'( :-\ >:().
They're cookies, I tell you! Give me your address! I'll send you some biscuits!! ...do you think biscuits would make it in the mail?
And trojans are condoms....
:P
always thought trojan was a funny name for a condom.
the trojan horse was designed to smuggle the little soldiers in so they could break out and infiltrate the city...which is precisely what a condom shouldn't do.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 14, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
always thought trojan was a funny name for a condom.
the trojan horse was designed to smuggle the little soldiers in so they could break out and infiltrate the city...which is precisely what a condom shouldn't do.
You know, I never thought of it that way, but you have an excellent point.
OK, I just learnt something! :icon_eek:
This thread is great! (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bikeguide.org%2Fimages%2Featpop.gif&hash=1428d8cd57688ae0f835a3a28209abc91c5d5fed)
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 14, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
always thought trojan was a funny name for a condom.
the trojan horse was designed to smuggle the little soldiers in so they could break out and infiltrate the city...which is precisely what a condom shouldn't do.
It's a conspiricy, they call it condom failier, I call it condom booby trap.
A shifty underhanded tactic by the religious subversives to increase teen pregnancies as proof that family values are declining and that the end of the world is near with the fire, and brimstone, and litte red devils oh my.
(sorry, I've been working too hard and going a bit crazy :embarrassed:)
Quote from: NickSister on April 14, 2008, 11:11:15 PM
It's a conspiricy, they call it condom failier, I call it condom booby trap.
A shifty underhanded tactic by the religious subversives to increase teen pregnancies as proof that family values are declining and that the end of the world is near with the fire, and brimstone, and litte red devils oh my.
(sorry, I've been working too hard and going a bit crazy :embarrassed:)
Nonono! I think you might be on to something here! It IS a conspiracy, I tell ya! Bastards.
And I agree. This is a great thread.
~Simone
that's why our number one brand of condom is Durex - Condoms of steel.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 15, 2008, 05:19:37 AM
that's why our number one brand of condom is Durex - Condoms of steel.
Uhm...
I'm fresh out. Got nuthin'.
~Simone.
Quote from: sd on April 14, 2008, 10:16:51 PM
This thread is great! (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bikeguide.org%2Fimages%2Featpop.gif&hash=1428d8cd57688ae0f835a3a28209abc91c5d5fed)
Yes it is, but.... what was the topic anyway?? ;) And who stole it? :laugh:
Z
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 14, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
always thought trojan was a funny name for a condom.
the trojan horse was designed to smuggle the little soldiers in so they could break out and infiltrate the city...which is precisely what a condom shouldn't do.
but the name is not Trojan Horse. it's Trojan. you know, the legendary warriors who stood up against Ulysses and the ancient Geeks
Quote from: ell on April 15, 2008, 10:50:04 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 14, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
always thought trojan was a funny name for a condom.
the trojan horse was designed to smuggle the little soldiers in so they could break out and infiltrate the city...which is precisely what a condom shouldn't do.
but the name is not Trojan Horse. it's Trojan. you know, the legendary warriors who stood up against Ulysses and the ancient Geeks
Yeah, but they the trojans were failures. Their city fell. And was properly sacked, as it should be.
Quote from: Rebis on April 15, 2008, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: ell on April 15, 2008, 10:50:04 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 14, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
always thought trojan was a funny name for a condom.
the trojan horse was designed to smuggle the little soldiers in so they could break out and infiltrate the city...which is precisely what a condom shouldn't do.
but the name is not Trojan Horse. it's Trojan. you know, the legendary warriors who stood up against Ulysses and the ancient Geeks
Yeah, but they the trojans were failures. Their city fell. And was properly sacked, as it should be.
is it a failure by committing one's trust to a gesture of friendship? or is it really the Greeks who failed, by committing an insidious deception, the likes of which are forbidden, to this day, by the Geneva Convention.
Quote from: ell on April 15, 2008, 12:41:06 PM
is it a failure by committing one's trust to a gesture of friendship? or is it really the Greeks who failed, by committing an insidious deception, the likes of which are forbidden, to this day, by the Geneva Convention.
The greeks were bastards.
~Simone.
but they won.
Quote from: ell on April 15, 2008, 12:41:06 PM
is it a failure by committing one's trust to a gesture of friendship? or is it really the Greeks who failed, by committing an insidious deception, the likes of which are forbidden, to this day, by the Geneva Convention.
What did they do? What deception? Are you talking about the horse?
Quote from: Rebis on April 15, 2008, 02:12:53 PM
Quote from: ell on April 15, 2008, 12:41:06 PM
is it a failure by committing one's trust to a gesture of friendship? or is it really the Greeks who failed, by committing an insidious deception, the likes of which are forbidden, to this day, by the Geneva Convention.
What did they do? What deception? Are you talking about the horse?
You know... That thing with the wooden horse and the beach and Troy's gates and Sean Bean in a skirt and sandals ... hmmmm ... he is so very amazing.
I am starting a Sean Bean fanclub. He was freakin' AWESOME as Boromir. I cried like a baby when he died. Still do. sniffle.
And he even made the Greek deception seem not quite so underhanded.
~Simone.
Quote from: Rebis on April 15, 2008, 02:12:53 PM
Quote from: ell on April 15, 2008, 12:41:06 PM
is it a failure by committing one's trust to a gesture of friendship? or is it really the Greeks who failed, by committing an insidious deception, the likes of which are forbidden, to this day, by the Geneva Convention.
What did they do? What deception? Are you talking about the horse?
The horse. the horse, of course. modern military parlance clearly defines such a thing as Treachery, similar to sending an ambulance into a war zone to pick up casualties then opening the back and out pops a heavily-armed infantry squad.
on top of that, the horse was sent in among civilians.
I like the ambulance idea. Okay, I'll do it!
Thanks for the plan. :P
Quote from: Rebis on April 15, 2008, 07:22:10 PM
I like the ambulance idea. Okay, I'll do it!
Thanks for the plan. :P
You're welcome sweetie. i know that your squad would pop out with pop tarts.
Quote from: ell on April 15, 2008, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 15, 2008, 07:22:10 PM
I like the ambulance idea. Okay, I'll do it!
Thanks for the plan. :P
You're welcome sweetie. i know that your squad would pop out with pop tarts.
You know, they just might. I imagine that an androgyne army would be quite cheeky and unprepared for actual battle...
The brilliant androgynes we are, unprepared for battle?! Perish the thought! No, we'd arrive, maybe get beaten up a bit (but just a little bit. Maybe a bitch-slap here, a spanking there, nothing too serious), and then proceed to comprehensively twirl the enemy to death. Or into a state of dizziness so severe that they can't continue fighting. (See technical battle strategy diagram below for further details*).
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And I think you may be on to something there, Rebis. The Trojan Horse...The Rebis Ambulance. Sounds almost like the name of a Michael Crichton book or something, The Rebis Ambulance.
:icon_caffine: Lutin :icon_caffine:
*Numbers and sizes are not to scale.
Quote from: Lutin on April 16, 2008, 01:35:01 AM
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So they pop out and do the Michael Jackson Thriller dance?
:P
It'd be a *thrilling* war then, wouldn't it? ;)
And
a) It was the closest I could find to Pica's beautiful twirl, and
b) I'VE HAD COFFFFFFFFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and it seemed like a good idea at the time. :icon_weirdface:
I'd run from an army doing thriller.
QuoteI'd run from an army doing thriller.
Me too. Those zombies were scary.
~Simone.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 15, 2008, 01:58:47 PM
but they won.
so...are you sayimg it's Ok to be a bastard so long as one succeeds in one's selfish schemes?
reckon it would look like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o
Quote from: ell on April 16, 2008, 06:05:42 AM
so...are you sayimg it's Ok to be a bastard so long as one succeeds in one's selfish schemes?
Of course not, but the secret is, win, and you get to edit out all the nasty bits ... except of course if you happen to have a poet-king overcome by guilt at his part in it, condemned to face all manner of dangers on the way home by a vengeful patron deity, end up writing about all the nasty goings on...
The truth will out, it seems ... we hope ...
~Simone.
On another board I've been ranted at by 4 extremely right wing americans who say that the nuclear bomb was the most humane act there was, for stopping the war. Maybe a Trojan Horse argument could be similar.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 16, 2008, 05:36:25 AM
I'd run from an army doing thriller.
A scary thought indeed! :o
Z
The most humane way of ending the trojan war would be for the greeks to pack up and go home.
2nd humane thing would be for troy to lay down it's arms and let the jerks in.
Americans who think the bomb is humane are jerks
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 16, 2008, 06:22:02 AM
On another board I've been ranted at by 4 extremely right wing americans who say that the nuclear bomb was the most humane act there was, for stopping the war. Maybe a Trojan Horse argument could be similar.
Ye gods! Surely you jest?! I cannot imagine what goes on in minds like those.
~Simone.
nor me, i was just playing the argument.
Quote from: Rebis on April 15, 2008, 12:23:24 PM
Yeah, but they the trojans were failures. Their city fell. And was properly sacked, as it should be.
But those who got away went on to found Rome, at least if you trust Virgil. Later on, of course, the Romans conquered all Greece, so perhaps the fall of Troy was just a temporary setback.
Nfr
Quote from: Rebis on April 16, 2008, 07:22:58 AM
Americans who think the bomb is humane are jerks
As the father of a draft-age son, I'd even say that Americans who think select service is a good idea are jerks. Let those who cry the loudest for war be on the front lines fighting it, regardless of age, sex, gender, experience, or ability.
There, now that I've cleared my colon I feel better.
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on April 16, 2008, 09:36:52 AM
Quote from: Rebis on April 16, 2008, 07:22:58 AM
Americans who think the bomb is humane are jerks
As the father of a draft-age son, I'd even say that Americans who think select service is a good idea are jerks. Let those who cry the loudest for war be on the front lines fighting it, regardless of age, sex, gender, experience, or ability.
There, now that I've cleared my colon I feel better.
there goes an army of neocons! kind of nerdy.
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 16, 2008, 07:38:58 AM
nor me, i was just playing the argument.
You - arguing with peeps? :o
no, just doing a survey of angles.
Not saxons?
Nfr
No, e was angling for survey answers. ;)
You beat me to that video, Pica!!! That was the first thing I thought of when "Thriller" came up!
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on April 16, 2008, 09:36:52 AM
Americans who think select service is a good idea are jerks. Let those who cry the loudest for war be on the front lines fighting it, regardless of age, sex, gender, experience, or ability.
AMEN to that! Dubya and Cheney ought to be on the front lines. I'd like to point out that (hopefully) most Americans do not favor the war...just the loudest ones.
Nice puns. :icon_eyebrow:
Quote from: Nero on April 16, 2008, 10:31:48 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 16, 2008, 07:38:58 AM
nor me, i was just playing the argument.
You - arguing with peeps? :o
Ok, dawgone it! i have to say this about p**ps.
p**ps are not just any shmo on the street. those are
people.
Peeps are people who are
very close to you. your Mom, sweetie, for instance, is one of your peeps.
So i doubt Pica was online arguing with hir peeps about nucular war. well, but Pica is rather strange, so, in hir case, possibly.
-ell
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 08:34:22 PM
Peeps are people who are very close to you. your Mom, sweetie, for instance, is one of your peeps.
So i doubt Pica was online arguing with hir peeps about nucular war. well, but Pica is rather strange, so, in hir case, possibly.
-ell
Uh oh Ell, you said the p__p word... :police:
Hopefully Rebis didn't hear you, and I won't tell hir you said it ;)
Z
Quote from: Zythyra on April 17, 2008, 08:47:53 PM
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 08:34:22 PM
Peeps are people who are very close to you. your Mom, sweetie, for instance, is one of your peeps.
So i doubt Pica was online arguing with hir peeps about nucular war. well, but Pica is rather strange, so, in hir case, possibly.
-ell
Uh oh Ell, you said the p__p word... :police:
Hopefully Rebis didn't hear you, and I won't tell hir you said it ;)
Z
it's Ok, Z.
Rebis hurt my feelings and still hasn't gotten me any flowers yet...
-ell
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 08:55:49 PM
it's Ok, Z.
Rebis hurt my feelings and still hasn't gotten me any flowers yet...
-ell
Here... :icon_bunch:
Z
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 08:34:22 PM
Quote from: Nero on April 16, 2008, 10:31:48 AM
Quote from: Pica Pica on April 16, 2008, 07:38:58 AM
nor me, i was just playing the argument.
You - arguing with peeps? :o
Ok, dawgone it! i have to say this about p**ps.
p**ps are not just any shmo on the street. those are people.
Peeps are people who are very close to you. your Mom, sweetie, for instance, is one of your peeps.
So i doubt Pica was online arguing with hir peeps about nucular war. well, but Pica is rather strange, so, in hir case, possibly.
-ell
That's what it used to mean. Until Reebs forbid us to say it. ;D
Pica, it was a fantastic video! Well thought out and well done.
(Listen to me, I sound like an expert but really only watch too much TV..got to remember how that sounds to folks)
Great Job!!
And to everyone...great thread!
...Laurry
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 08:55:49 PM
it's Ok, Z.
Rebis hurt my feelings and still hasn't gotten me any flowers yet...
-ell
I did so.
Quote from: Rebis on April 17, 2008, 11:24:56 PM
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 08:55:49 PM
it's Ok, Z.
Rebis hurt my feelings and still hasn't gotten me any flowers yet...
-ell
I did so.
Lol. you did?
Quote from: Laurry on April 17, 2008, 10:28:07 PM
...Laurry
Well well well. Look who the kitty dragged in.
Posted on: April 17, 2008, 11:27:06 PM
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 11:26:41 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 17, 2008, 11:24:56 PM
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 08:55:49 PM
it's Ok, Z.
Rebis hurt my feelings and still hasn't gotten me any flowers yet...
-ell
I did so.
Lol. you did?
Yes. I think it was in another thread. Are you talking about the picnic thread when I said I would go to any gathering as long as you weren't there?
I said I was kidding and I did this :icon_bunch:
are you expecting something else? I'm on a low budget. I'll have to see what I can steal.
Quote from: Rebis on April 17, 2008, 11:29:20 PM
Quote from: Laurry on April 17, 2008, 10:28:07 PM
...Laurry
Well well well. Look who the kitty dragged in.
Posted on: April 17, 2008, 11:27:06 PM
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 11:26:41 PM
Quote from: Rebis on April 17, 2008, 11:24:56 PM
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 08:55:49 PM
it's Ok, Z.
Rebis hurt my feelings and still hasn't gotten me any flowers yet...
-ell
I did so.
Lol. you did?
Yes. I think it was in another thread. Are you talking about the picnic thread when I said I would go to any gathering as long as you weren't there?
I said I was kidding and I did this :icon_bunch:
are you expecting something else? I'm on a low budget. I'll have to see what I can steal.
oh! i thought those were grapes. so i ate them.
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 11:32:37 PM
oh! i thought those were grapes. so i ate them.
Glad there was nothing in my mouth when i read that, it would have been across the room. :D
ello laurry, how's stuffs?
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 11:32:37 PM
oh! i thought those were grapes. so i ate them.
Ah, a happy ending ;D ;)
Z
Quote from: sd on April 18, 2008, 12:28:37 AM
Quote from: ell on April 17, 2008, 11:32:37 PM
oh! i thought those were grapes. so i ate them.
Glad there was nothing in my mouth when i read that, it would have been across the room. :D
I wasn't quite so lucky. :D
It's been a while, Laurry! Nice to see you again!
The rest of you are just silly... :P
"If you want to piss off your parents, join a rock band, don't become and androgyne."
I love that line xD
I think that "what an androgyne isn't" is something that could apply to other things like MtF, FtM, homosexual, etc.
I get your point; people aren't (or shouldn't) be the way they are/feel because they want to piss people off or make a statement or some such other reason.
On a slightly related note, you remind me of a more melodically-voiced Eddie Izzard for some reason. I think I could listen to Pica talk for hours o.o It's just that nice :D