Tell me what you think about it
Personally I want it to look more feminine in the future, maybe with the help of hormones :)
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Oh my god, I'm so envious! You have a small chin and big eyes! Also, nice lips.
Quote from: Veetje on May 29, 2008, 06:42:25 AM
Tell me what you think about it
Personally I want it to look more feminine in the future, maybe with the help of hormones :)
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Want to look more feminine???
LOL, pluck your eyebrows and put on some makeup....
You already look like a girl.
Wow! :icon_yikes: Polymorphic's absolutely right! You look amazing! :icon_bunch:
And you really do have the most beautiful eyes. :)
Sorry, really don't know what else to say, other than that you don't seem to need hormones. :icon_tenisclap:
Very pretty.
I gotta agree with everyone else, you already look female. And gorgeous. Sure this isn't the ftm section? LOL
Simply beautiful. The proper hormones will be very kind to you.
In my opinion all you need is laser and you will be stunning.
Amanda
Very nice. Very nice.
WOW. Seriously. You look very feminine. The only thing I can think of is the same as Lori. A softer brow line (use a white makeup pencil to draw the shape you want and pluck or wax around it), maybe some eyeliner...you don't need much, my dear, if anything. Actually, your brows look very nice already, so I don't know if you can do anything else to them...but that's a general tip for anyone who wants to look more feminine.
A weird tip, but a tip none the less, you can use fruit to add a little color to your lips...like a strawberry or something. I think that glosses and things like that just look too obvious sometimes.
Eyeliner tips for a more natural look (because a lot of people do it wrong):
Use a small pencil (a fat one makes a too big of a line).
Instead of putting on from on top of your lashes, sort of pull your lid up and put it right on the roots from underneath. Make sure to wipe any that gets on that smooth part just below your lashes (it will end up on the bottom of your eye). As long as it's just on your roots, no one will know you're wearing eyeliner.
Use a color similar to your eyelash color.
Also, if you can find an inconspicuous mascara to make your lashes look longer. First tip, don't use the blackest color they have...it's really obvious. If you have really dark lashes, a black brown is good. And don't use a volumizing or anything like that. Just a normal WATERPROOF mascara to make your lashes look a little longer.
Practice, practice, practice.
And as always with makeup, LESS IS MORE! Don't go crazy, it looks bad.
so yeah, that's my advice for anyone who wants to look more feminine. Little changes make a huge difference.
But Veetje, yeah, you're prettier than me so :P.
You are very female and beautiful. :)
Very pretty. And I love your lips, I'm jealous.
:icon_love:,
Janet
A little more and you will be passing with no trouble.
Get laser for your hair and you already could.
Very nice cute lips and eyes.
Well here are two of my pics if it helps any. Not sure if there is much of a change or improvement
These two pictures are with hormones, my natural breast growth from 6 month hrt, and very little makeup.
(https://www.susans.org/forums/gallery/214_31_05_08_6_26_05.jpg)
Versus this one with a bunch of makeup, and before hormones. Eyebrows are thinner here than my current picture. I am also sporting glue on lashes. And I am wearing silicone breast inserts, and squishing the chest together.
(https://www.susans.org/forums/gallery/214_27_12_06_9_49_37.JPG)
I am sure I can fem up good like the old picture with more makeup and tweezing. But I like my new more round face and softer skin, though hrt will make your skin dry out and thin. I find my skin irritate now, whereas it didn't.
Veetje,
That close up "fish eye" web-cam lens is distorting your face somewhat rotten !
Huge nose, tiny chin, receding brow / forehead .... "goldfish bowl" effect .... just look at the background !
Sure you look good, and a proper pic would be more honest if you're looking for constructive comment ?
Your beard isn't heavy but you need to be rid of it to really figure feminine if that's what you want ....
You post in "Androgyne" so I'm not sure what your goals are, or whether HRT is what you need ?
Kendra, nice pics too, but if you don't mind me saying .... a real lovely face, except you need to lose maybe 60+ pounds to look really good as a woman ? I do like the older pic where your face looks thinner ....
And please, I'm not being "arrogant", just being honest in my judgment, and people who post photos for comment want honesty ?
Laura x
Quote from: Ken/Kendra on May 31, 2008, 08:04:48 PM
Well here are two of my pics if it helps any. Not sure if there is much of a change or improvement
This picture is with hormones, and very little makeup.
Kendra, you look great! No need to wear make up.
Z
Quote from: Zythyra on May 31, 2008, 09:40:03 PM
Quote from: Ken/Kendra on May 31, 2008, 08:04:48 PM
Well here are two of my pics if it helps any. Not sure if there is much of a change or improvement
This picture is with hormones, and very little makeup.
Kendra, you look great! No need to wear make up.
Z
I agree, you look great even without makeup. :)
Quote from: Laura Eva B on May 31, 2008, 09:36:11 PM
Veetje,
That close up "fish eye" web-cam lens is distorting your face somewhat rotten !
Huge nose, tiny chin, receding brow / forehead .... "goldfish bowl" effect .... just look at the background !
Sure you look good, and a proper pic would be more honest if you're looking for constructive comment ?
Your beard isn't heavy but you need to be rid of it to really figure feminine if that's what you want ....
You post in "Androgyne" so I'm not sure what your goals are, or whether HRT is what you need ?
Kendra, nice pics too, but if you don't mind me saying .... a real lovely face, except you need to lose maybe 60+ pounds to look really good as a woman ? I do like the older pic where your face looks thinner ....
And please, I'm not being "arrogant", just being honest in my judgment, and people who post photos for comment want honesty ?
Laura x
Thanks for your honesty...yes its not a great quality pic
But then again, youre not a model either ::)
QuoteKendra, nice pics too, but if you don't mind me saying .... a real lovely face, except you need to lose maybe 60+ pounds to look really good as a woman ? I do like the older pic where your face looks thinner ....
I have no idea what pound/kilo conversion rates are, but I think you look great as you are. You really don't have to be a skinny supermodel to be a woman (as the saying goes, "there are 3 billion women who don't look like supermodels, and only eight who do" :P). So while I know Laura's comment was intended in all honesty (so nothing against you Laura hon), I would tend to disagree (if only from the point of view of someone who is not one of the eight supermodels ::)).
So yes, Kendra, if I saw you in the street, the only reason I would stare at you longer than is decently necessary is because of your hair ;) (and probably your smile - in the second photo, you're almost smiling, and it looks as though a real smile would be stunning).
And Veetje, no idea what lasering does, so I can't really comment there, but from where I'm sitting, you'd pass no worries.
Keep smiling mes ami/es,
Lutin
Quote from: Laura Eva B on May 31, 2008, 09:36:11 PM
Veetje,
Kendra, nice pics too, but if you don't mind me saying .... a real lovely face, except you need to lose maybe 60+ pounds to look really good as a woman ? I do like the older pic where your face looks thinner ....
And please, I'm not being "arrogant", just being honest in my judgment, and people who post photos for comment want honesty ?
Laura x
You make me laugh. That older pic is of me crossdressing fem mode. I am not a transsexual. Rather mixed gender. Sure 60 pounds would be lovely. But thats not something I loose sleep about. Being like that old picture for an extended amount of time is just as traumatic as when I am male mode, suit and tie.
For exercise I been doing Kungfu regularly, since December any weight loss will be moderate amount.
I think i understand others concern for "passing". I didnt really care about passing in that 2nd pic either, rather was experimenting with some cosmetology lessons i was studying at the time and playing around.
Thanks you others for the support, I do see however the TS advice Laura is trying to sweetly pass on :-\ in a lady-like manner.
Well since her profile picture is here too, I don't recomend putting your eyebrows halfway up your head like Laura. And maybe brushing that yellow off the teeth might help if one were looking to improve appearance more feminine and attractive.
Veetje, and Ken/Kendra, very nice pictures, both of you, no matter what others have said.
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on June 01, 2008, 01:34:20 PM
Veetje, and Ken/Kendra, very nice pictures, both of you, no matter what others have said.
yeah, you are both pretty...you suck. :P
whoa.
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Quote from: Nero on June 01, 2008, 05:36:53 PM
whoa.
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LOL, androgyne cat fights, look out ;)
Z
Kendra if I saw you on the street I would not see anything but a female. It sounds to me
you are SO comfortable with yourself and you should be... you look great. With your skin I'd pass
on the makeup too. Good for you.
Amanda
I think that you have a very feminine face/look 8)
Whatever plans you have to "pass" should be easy at this point :)
You look stunning.
Quote from: Laura Eva B on May 31, 2008, 09:36:11 PM
you need to lose maybe 60+ pounds to look really good as a woman
If this is true, then I guess my wife wouldn't pass as a woman. I'm 6'1" and 190 pounds. She's 5'1" and outweighs me.
Weight alone is not the issue for passing. However, weight distribution can be, it seems.
Sorry .... I'm not bitching !
US is the most obese country in the world.
UK is the most obese country in Europe.
Obesity = ill health / type 2 diabetes / coronary problems / shortened life expectation / etc .....
I struggle and work hard to stay 133 pounds, BMI <21, US size 8.
It helps me look good !
And sorry Kendra, yes I would benefit from teeth whitening, but hey I'm around 50, pass absolutely, have five cute guys all least 10 years younger than me who are on my repeat date list ....
And while the guys are attracted to my face, smile, and personality, I feel its my body that makes me so attractive to them ?
Weight isn't per-se an issue in passing, it can do wonders for face and legs, but if you want to look an attractive woman, wear fashion clothes, pull guys, you need to be slim ....
Laura x
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on June 02, 2008, 11:19:57 AM
Quote from: Laura Eva B on May 31, 2008, 09:36:11 PM
you need to lose maybe 60+ pounds to look really good as a woman
If this is true, then I guess my wife wouldn't pass as a woman. I'm 6'1" and 190 pounds. She's 5'1" and outweighs me.
Weight alone is not the issue for passing. However, weight distribution can be, it seems.
Androgynes aren't necessarily trying to pass as either gender. Although, some of us might not complain if we did...
In addition, women and men come in all different sizes. I've dated big women, who were constantly dieting, and they were never going to be a size 2 no matter what. Bone size and muscle mass play a part in all our sizes.
Z
Veetje, you're gonna do great!!!
I dont want to pass as a female...I wanna pass as androgyne/transgender, thats a difference ^^
Quote from: Veetje on June 04, 2008, 03:52:21 AM
I dont want to pass as a female...I wanna pass as androgyne/transgender, thats a difference ^^
I hear you there Veetje.
I apologize for any rudness to you Laura. You look good and are lucky to have so many men chasing you. It must be your dream come true.
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Your doing a nice Veetje I think.
Kendra,
I'm a bigger person too... You're an inspiration :) You're beautiful.
Quote from: Veetje on June 04, 2008, 03:52:21 AM
I dont want to pass as a female...I wanna pass as androgyne/transgender, thats a difference ^^
that clears that up, i wouldn't say there's much that hormones would do for you, but i don't know that much on the topic and i'm a little biased (i'm too scarred of hormones to even take the contraceptive pill) maybe electrolisis on the facial hair is a better option.
You have a really interesting look, where are you from, the only person i can think of who looks anywhere near as interesting and exotic as you is half malasian, quater affrican, quater european.
I'd actually go fo a bit LESS plucking on the eyebrows, i think women (and men) with dark eyebrows are really sexy, you look like you already pluck a bit. How dark and full you could get away with on the eyebrows depends a bit on where you're from, the extreeme close up and particular lighting make it a bit hard to tell, maybe don't let it grow out to a full Frida Kahlo but let it be a bit wilder rather than over-pluc and rick a bit of an unnatural drag-queen camp kinda look. But again, maybe i'm odd...
Maybe try to make your hair a bit fuller somehow, i don't have any tips on that myself though... i'm trying to work out how to stop my hair looking so feminine.
If you want androgynous rather than woman maybe go for a bit of a goth look in your makeup, something that if you don't look female looks like a hot feminine guy not an unsuccessful attempt to "pass". Maybe a bit of a Brian Molko (circa. 1998, singer from Placebo) look. The sort of thing i like is where i don't know (or care) it's gender but i know it's beautiful... then run into a bus stiop sign staring.
and with the teeth on Laura... i don't know who on earth decided teeth should be white? they should be ivory colourred, cos after all that's what they are. But i like my coffee colourred teeth myself.