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Title: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: Snowdoggy on July 01, 2008, 10:37:51 AM
Just thought I'd let all you guys know that hospital phoned me yesterday afternoon and said they had a cancellation and could I get in this Wednesday. Had to ask my boss and phone them back within 10 minutes and he said it was ok, I told them that I was supposed to stop smoking 2 weeks before the op and they said "just stop now" it should be ok (after all that quitting worry).

So I will be setting off to Leicester tonight and should have my op tomorrow morning as long as I pass the medical it should all be done and dusted by Thursday.

Really nervous (and excited), not sure what to expect as I have never had a general anaesthetic before.

All being well should be back soon

John
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Jay on July 01, 2008, 01:25:40 PM
Congratulations man.. it should all be fine!
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Lukas-H on July 01, 2008, 03:20:19 PM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: JCov212 on July 02, 2008, 06:15:18 AM
Congrats and good luck! Hope all goes well. :icon_wave:
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Dennis on July 02, 2008, 08:53:33 AM
Congrats John, give us an update when you're back.

Dennis
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: J.T. on July 04, 2008, 12:35:57 PM
Congrats, man!  Hope all went well.
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Snowdoggy on July 05, 2008, 12:15:10 PM
Hi All, I am Janette, John's partner.

We got home from the hospital yesterday after John's chest surgery and he wanted me to let you know how things went.

As you know it was all a rush as we got a canellation. The op was on Wednesday, late morning, and lasted 4 hours. He was brought back up in good humour but unfortunately shortly after he got a haematoma (blood clot) so had to be taken back down again. He was brought back up to the ward at 9.30pm. It was a very long day for me, he said it flew past but he was asleep most of the time!

Thursday morning he was sitting up and walking around his room and by the evening he was able to go to the toilet with me to help him which was pretty amazing considering what he had just gone through.

By Friday morning the drains had dried up and could be removed. The staff said to give it a couple of hours to make sure there was no leakage then he could go home. All was okay and we were discharged at 12 noon. The 2 hour drive home wasn't very nice but he made it. (Insisting on stopping off at work to let them know he was okay).

We got a bit concerned last night because his feet and stomach were swelling up quite badly, probably water retention. It is much better this morning. He is getting about now, carefully. Can go to loo by himself, although I watch him up and down the stairs as he is getting slight dizzy spells occasionally.

All in all I think everything went well. The staff at Leicester were great throughout it all even though they were understaffed some of the time.

John will post his own thoughts when he is feeling more up to sitting infront of the computer.

Take care all of you.

Janette
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: trapthavok on July 05, 2008, 04:43:06 PM
Sorry bout all the mishaps, but I hope John's okay now!!

Hope he pulls through it  :D He'll be fine, I'm sure. Just keep him off his feet!
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: JCov212 on July 06, 2008, 12:39:49 AM
Ouch, that sucks about all the scares and such. Glad he's doing much better now, moving around and so. Is he in a lot of pain or is it just an uncomfortable feeling?

Glad everything else went ok though  :)
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Lukas-H on July 07, 2008, 03:57:56 AM
Hope you get better soon man, stay safe.
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Suzy on July 07, 2008, 07:32:11 AM
Get well soon, John!
Hang in there, and keep your chin up.
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Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: trannyboy on July 07, 2008, 10:10:07 AM
Congrats on the surgery. Please watch those drains sites very carefully and maintain compression. 3 days is really early to pull the drains. In terms of fluid retention, please encourage him to walk around on level ground regularly and monitor fluid input and output. If you see any further swelling or other problems please attend you local emergency or A&E, If you see a change in fluid input or output please speak with personal care physician or GP.
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Christo on July 12, 2008, 01:54:04 AM
W00t dude :icon_dance: whoo hoo :icon_joy:
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Snowdoggy on July 12, 2008, 09:00:20 AM
Hi all,

just to let you know I'm back on the forum again. Went to have my dressing changed at Leicester last Wednesday and the nurse said it was ok to remove the stiches now, so she did and I am chuffed to bits with the result, very small scars, the nipple grafts have worked and not much pain now either so other than the haematoma (which hurt like hell) things are looking great.

Thanks to you all for your support before, during and after my op :)
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Dennis on July 12, 2008, 04:14:20 PM
Awesome, Snowdoggy. Glad to hear you're feeling better.

Dennis
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Post by: trannyboy on July 12, 2008, 04:22:14 PM
Congrates Snowdog, I remember my surgery, I was so stoked. I sat out in the sun topless for hours:) with sun screen of course. Isn't it great that it is summer and no binding.

->-bleeped-<-boy
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Snowdoggy on July 13, 2008, 08:55:52 AM
Only worry I have now is that the left side is quite a bit larger than the right side. I think this may be because they had to re-operate on the right side and they may have had to take more tissue away because  of the haematoma. Hoping I am not going to need another op to reduce the left hand side  :(
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: noxdraconis on July 13, 2008, 08:28:13 PM
Did your op fees cover revisions?
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Snowdoggy on July 14, 2008, 08:19:12 AM
I had it done on the NHS so didn't pay for the operation.
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: noxdraconis on July 14, 2008, 10:49:37 AM
Oh ok, so the revisions will probably be free too?
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Snowdoggy on July 15, 2008, 07:08:50 AM
If they consider it to not be close enough in size. right and left I think the revisions will be free. I'm just a bit of a coward when it comes to hospitals and was hoping I wouldn't need one.
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Dennis on July 15, 2008, 09:26:08 AM
Did you have a peri, Jay? If so, you really have to give it a lot of time to settle down before making that decision. I hear it takes months for a hematoma to reabsorb, so it could all be okay.

Dennis
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Elwood on July 15, 2008, 10:48:15 AM
PIX OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

Lol, I joke. That's wonderful. Sounds like things went pretty well, considering. Sometimes top work can go really bad.
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Snowdoggy on July 15, 2008, 04:24:00 PM
I didn't have peri done as far as I know (is that the same as keyhole?).

Had the areola reduced, scars running from left and right from the nipples but not to the armpits which I was worried about. I hope to post some photos once swelling goes down (looking good so far other than the difference in size from right to left).

John
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: NicholeW. on July 15, 2008, 05:03:13 PM
Quote from: Snowdoggy on July 15, 2008, 04:24:00 PM

(looking good so far other than the difference in size from right to left).

That problem seems universal! :laugh: John, so glad you're feeling better. Please thank Janette for keeping us updated as well. Heck, I'd hug ya except I don't wanna hurt ya! :) Big congratulations and it's so great to see you back safe and well.

Nichole
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Snowdoggy on August 10, 2008, 12:33:09 PM
Hi all,

Just thought I'd let you all know it is progressing. The swelling on the left side has now gone down considerably and I am happy with the overall size of both sides. I have still have some scabbing on right side nipple still but the left side scab has now come off (since these photos were taken) and it's looking great underneath. I've posted some links to the photos below. These were taken at 4 weeks post op. It is now 5½ weeks and as I said the left nipple now has no scab at all. The right side one (where I had the haematoma) had much bigger and thicker scar to start with so I figure it will take longer tome off. It is now only about the size of a pea but I don't want to try and pull it off in case it damages the nipple. The link to chest2.jpg shows where the haematoma had drained down into the right side of my waist. Orginally it went right up to my ribs but you can see on the photo it has subsided a lot and it has now gone completely. I will leave these on the site for a while and then update them with some newer ones in the near future (if I remember). Hope this works:-

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest1.jpg (http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest1.jpg)

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest4.jpg (http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest4.jpg)

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest3.jpg (http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest3.jpg)

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest2.jpg (http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest2.jpg)
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: Elwood on August 10, 2008, 01:40:16 PM
Wow. Those might clear up pretty well (the scars, I mean). I've seen much worse.

I'm hoping I'm small enough to get away with a keyhole. I'm an A cup...
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: Snowdoggy on August 10, 2008, 02:15:44 PM
I was a b cup. I didn't want keyhole (I was too big as a b size anyway) as I have not been very impressed by the way the chest sits afterwards. It can end up looking like a boob that's had it's inards sucked out (looks like they have been popped). The specific surgeon that I had my surgery done with leaves some of the breast tissue behind in the higher end of the chest so it doesn't look "pigeon chested". The only thing is I will have to keep my eye out for lumps more than with sugery where they remove all of the breast tissue. I am happy with the contouring on my chest, will have to see how the scarring heals and get on my gym as soon as I am able. I have been told to wait for a month or so until the tightness eases.

Both my nipples were removed, the areola was made (much) smaller and the whole thing moved up 1cm. The surgeon said I because when I was younger i used to work out a bit it had stopped ny chest drooping so he only had to move it up 1cm. With larger breast sizes they may have to move them up more. The thing is with keyhole is i am not sure whether they do anything with the nipples or areola and female ones are usually bigger than males. My nipples were bigger than my partners and she's a DD cup. I haven't had them reduced as apparently they will shrink through the trauma of the op but it will remain to be seen, my areolas are now only about half the size they were pre op though.
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: jet3 on August 10, 2008, 02:26:39 PM
congrats man! hope everything goes well for you from here! keep us updated

Jet
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: JonasCarminis on August 10, 2008, 07:49:02 PM
looking good!  i hope your recovery is smooth.
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: alexkidd on August 10, 2008, 09:17:14 PM
nice one dude

looks pretty painful still though

hope you recover well  :)
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: trapthavok on August 10, 2008, 11:05:34 PM
Quote from: Snowdoggy on August 10, 2008, 02:15:44 PM
I was a b cup. I didn't want keyhole (I was too big as a b size anyway) as I have not been very impressed by the way the chest sits afterwards. It can end up looking like a boob that's had it's inards sucked out (looks like they have been popped). The specific surgeon that I had my surgery done with leaves some of the breast tissue behind in the higher end of the chest so it doesn't look "pigeon chested". The only thing is I will have to keep my eye out for lumps more than with sugery where they remove all of the breast tissue. I am happy with the contouring on my chest, will have to see how the scarring heals and get on my gym as soon as I am able. I have been told to wait for a month or so until the tightness eases.

Both my nipples were removed, the areola was made (much) smaller and the whole thing moved up 1cm. The surgeon said I because when I was younger i used to work out a bit it had stopped ny chest drooping so he only had to move it up 1cm. With larger breast sizes they may have to move them up more. The thing is with keyhole is i am not sure whether they do anything with the nipples or areola and female ones are usually bigger than males. My nipples were bigger than my partners and she's a DD cup. I haven't had them reduced as apparently they will shrink through the trauma of the op but it will remain to be seen, my areolas are now only about half the size they were pre op though.

Hope you heal well dude!!

You know, some of those reasons you stated for having the double incision sound like some of the reasons I'm debating between Keyhole and incision (but leaning toward incision). I'm a B cup too and my nipples are huge, and it bugs me because I know guy's nipples are smaller and I want my chest to look as male as possible. Plus I'm probably going to be working out a lot, and I've heard keyhole makes your boobs look saggy sometimes....Saggy boobs + toned abs does not equate. I love scars anyway, I'll take the scarring.

Take good care of yourself man :D
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow
Post by: Ell on August 10, 2008, 11:25:34 PM
Quote from: Snowdoggy on August 10, 2008, 12:33:09 PM
Hi all,

Just thought I'd let you all know it is progressing. The swelling on the left side has now gone down considerably and I am happy with the overall size of both sides. I have still have some scabbing on right side nipple still but the left side scab has now come off (since these photos were taken) and it's looking great underneath. I've posted some links to the photos below. These were taken at 4 weeks post op. It is now 5½ weeks and as I said the left nipple now has no scab at all. The right side one (where I had the haematoma) had much bigger and thicker scar to start with so I figure it will take longer tome off. It is now only about the size of a pea but I don't want to try and pull it off in case it damages the nipple. The link to chest2.jpg shows where the haematoma had drained down into the right side of my waist. Orginally it went right up to my ribs but you can see on the photo it has subsided a lot and it has now gone completely. I will leave these on the site for a while and then update them with some newer ones in the near future (if I remember). Hope this works:-

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest1.jpg (http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest1.jpg)

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest4.jpg (http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest4.jpg)

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest3.jpg (http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest3.jpg)

http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest2.jpg (http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc330/johnatkin69/Chest2.jpg)

OMG! i'm squeamish.

when the first picture was loading, i kept thinking, oh, i just know i'm gonna faint when i see this. and then i saw it, and even though i got my typical "surgical" reaction, i also had to acknowledge that that is mighty fine looking work. it's beautiful.

congratulations.

-Ell
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: Elwood on August 16, 2008, 10:35:12 PM
I am still aiming for keyhole... I know that after the fact I can go back and have revisions. I'd like to give no scarring a chance and if that doesn't work then I'll deal with scars from the revision process. Of course, I'll discuss with my doctor what option they think is best, since they're the professional and all.
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: Dennis on August 17, 2008, 09:00:13 AM
Looks great man, and that hematoma went down nicely. You'll be shirtless on the beach soon!

Dennis
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: Christo on August 19, 2008, 01:33:14 AM
whooa cool bro congrats :icon_joy:
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: Lukas-H on August 19, 2008, 03:20:38 AM
The pics made me cringe :o It looks really painful. I really hope you heal up well without more complications; it looks like you'll be very satisfied with the results, grats :D
Title: Re: Chest op tomorrow (updated with photos)
Post by: Camden on August 24, 2008, 11:54:58 PM
John,
Glad to hear you are doing GREAT! I didn't have any complications and my left side was a lot more swollen than the right. I'm not a DR. but it could just be normal. My left side took a lot longer to heal and always gets more sore than the right. Hope all is well! Camden