So this is probably a horrible question, but it's been bugging me.
With STPs is it easier to use the bathroom when you've got a 3incher? (Can you use it one handed instead of two handed?)
Does it really matter what size you get?
When I get one, I plan on using stalls still, not urinals, just cause I want to take the extra precaution. But I just wanted to make sure I don't necessarily need a realistic size. I'm 5'6 so I feel like I'm in limbo. Not short but not tall, so I don't know what's an "appropriate" size.
Also, one last question on STPs....is a harness best?
You ARE short by male standards. Very short, in fact. Short men do tend to have less length. Course things vary but take it from me:
Generally speaking:
Short men are shorter.
Tall men are longer.
Small men (as in frame) are thinner in width.
Big men (as in frame) are wider in width.
Quote from: Nero on July 22, 2008, 12:56:42 PM
You ARE short by male standards. Very short, in fact.
Damn, I know but I didn't want to admit it :D I've always wanted to be six feet tall like my dad, but I know I'm done growing :-\
Based on your response it sounds like the three incher is ok for me. It doesn't matter since it's not like I'll be using it for sex (or I try to tell myself it doesn't matter, haha). I guess I'm one of those guys who feel like it has to be big, even when it's flaccid :embarrassed: Damn my height.
Um, I absolutely don't mean to be crude. But on you, I'd add about 2 inches.
Quote from: Nero on July 22, 2008, 01:08:36 PM
Um, I absolutely don't mean to be crude. But on you, I'd add about 2 inches.
It's not crude at all, it's an honest answer to the question I asked. Thanks for the input :)
If all you want is something to use to pee then why go bigger? Some guys are not even 2 inches when soft, some are more like a stump (sometimes less). It doesn't matter as long as you can aim it where you need it to go.
Quote from: sd on July 22, 2008, 01:27:14 PM
If all you want is something to use to pee then why go bigger?
Mental block? Pride? I don't honestly know the answer to that myself :-\
sd is right. Don't worry about length if it is used just to go pee. There are all sizes of penis's that are flacid. Just be able to aim and shoot. You can practice that at home by putting something in the toilet, that floats and won't clog up the toilet, aim at it and try to hit it. Then learn how to get it dry without toilet paper. Urinals don't have toilet paper.
Ah, well it's not just to pee, I want to use it as a packer too. Thanks for the target practice idea :D
I still would not go too big.
Flaccid sizes vary a huge amount and changes constantly. For day to day use, I would recommend aiming for something smaller, if you are going clubbing try something a bit bigger.
You don't want to be hauling around a fire hose all day.
Quote from: Sheila on July 22, 2008, 01:49:36 PMYou can practice that at home by putting something in the toilet, that floats and won't clog up the toilet, aim at it and try to hit it.
I'm sorry- that just gave me a horrible idea.
... um, popcorn? EL OH EL
sorry- I'll leave now.
Quote from: offthesidewalk on July 22, 2008, 02:33:11 PM
Quote from: Sheila on July 22, 2008, 01:49:36 PMYou can practice that at home by putting something in the toilet, that floats and won't clog up the toilet, aim at it and try to hit it.
I'm sorry- that just gave me a horrible idea.
... um, popcorn? EL OH EL
sorry- I'll leave now.
Hahaha, you quack me up.
.....
I've heard cheerio's are used for potty training little boys.
OK NEW QUESTION
Why is it so difficult to find a 'chocolate' packer for us darker bros??
DJ has discontinued it, mango too. I don't think chocolate is even an option on STUD, just mocha and pink or something.
If I'm going to have to make my own it's going to be ridiculous, cause the only site I know of that sells a 'chocolate' colored non-stp packer is early to bed. They come in three different sizes, but the only chocolate colored size is a $52 5 incher.
Quote from: trapthavok on July 22, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
So this is probably a horrible question, but it's been bugging me.
With STPs is it easier to use the bathroom when you've got a 3incher? (Can you use it one handed instead of two handed?)
Does it really matter what size you get?
When I get one, I plan on using stalls still, not urinals, just cause I want to take the extra precaution. But I just wanted to make sure I don't necessarily need a realistic size. I'm 5'6 so I feel like I'm in limbo. Not short but not tall, so I don't know what's an "appropriate" size.
Also, one last question on STPs....is a harness best?
I have the Mango 5.5" and it is the perfect size for me for stp. I just converted my 3.5" into an STP and it was harder to aim and get it out of my pants.
I LOVE the 3.5" for packing only but prefer my 5.5" for stp. I'm going to try the 3.5" stp for a while to see if I like it okay and that I'm just used to the bigger one.
There is a video on You-Tube on how to modify a 3.5" packer into an STP which I have NOT tried as it uses a more rigid stp (female) device which he claims you can use one handed. The Mango and its relatives use a latex tube which is flexible but does require 2 hands in my experience.
Jay
Havok, as a woman I can tell you only this, that some of us are less interested in size than in ability to use what's there. That is not true of all, I imagine, in fact I know it's not true of all. But I don't know what a percentage would be.
As for your question about color, my dear, why do you imagine? I have a few thoughts the main one being that it's never dawned on the folks who make them that there is a "need" for making them. As to why that's true, I'd allow them to answer that. You might consider asking the manufacturers though. Sometimes, if they wanna make money badly enough they might hear you.
Nichole
Ive heard the 3 inch is hard to pee with it.. :o
I'd have to agree with Nichole about why they don't have enough colors. I think it's probably due to the stereotype that being ftm is something white kids do. ::)
Or maybe its because we're a minority and theres not much of a demand for it? I don't think it has to do with, "its a white kid thing." but the actual number of people who are transgendered.
Maybe try looking for foreign sites where the black/dark skinned population is not a minority? I don't know.
I feel as if I am intruding on this matter and therefore I am sorry if any of my comments cause harm or irritation.
I am 5ft 7ins and stopped growing in height when I was 14. I can only ever recall very few full blown erections due to the horror and distress they caused me but I do also recall that I once attempted to measure it following hearing my school peers talking about how big they were and I measured 4 1/2 inches. Now consider this, there is a saying that 'if you don't use it, prepare to lose it' or something along those lines and with me, having never used my own thingy for it's ultimate designed purpose, I can safely say that I still have it :'( it still stretches to about 3 1/2 inches if I pull it hard enough and hopefully the surgeon can work with it when the time comes for my SRS.
QuoteIve heard the 3 inch is hard to pee with it..
I am sorry but I have to ask you something pertinent, What length of urethra does a woman need to have a wee? I confess that I have absolutely no idea what the thought processes are with F to M folk but I hope I do not lack empathy either. I may be fortunate to gain a worthwhile vagina and be lucky enough to find someone to appreciate it :embarrassed: , it seems a simple matter for me but I do not know what the obstacles are with F to M's with their aquired penis, maybe I should stop here before I cause a storm of protest or lose my minimal reputation etc....
....save to say, size matters if you are a man, it is wired into the male psych, just you try to denegrate a mans tackle and expect significant dental work :o
Quote from: JENNIFER on July 23, 2008, 03:12:37 PM
I feel as if I am intruding on this matter and therefore I am sorry if any of my comments cause harm or irritation.
I confess that I have absolutely no idea what the thought processes are with F to M folk but I hope I do not lack empathy either. I may be fortunate to gain a worthwhile vagina and be lucky enough to find someone to appreciate it :embarrassed: , it seems a simple matter for me but I do not know what the obstacles are with F to M's with their aquired penis, maybe I should stop here before I cause a storm of protest or lose my minimal reputation etc....
No you're not overstepping your bounds, everyone's advice is helpful :) Uh, I'm not looking for bottom surgery yet, I'm just looking for something to stuff down there, know what I mean? I'm trying to buy a peeing device that can be used as packing, and also pass somewhat for a realistic penis in size and color, etc. That's what the size question is about.
Quote from: JENNIFER on July 23, 2008, 03:12:37 PM
I am sorry but I have to ask you something pertinent, What length of urethra does a woman need to have a wee?
Hmm I don't know how reliable wikipedia is but here's what I found:
Male Urethra: In the human male, the urethra is about 8 inches (15 cm) long and opens at the end of the penis. The inside of the urethra has a spiral groove (like rifling in a gun barrel), which makes the urine flow in a wide stream.
Female Urethra: In the human female, the urethra is about 1 1/2-2 inches (3-5 cm) long and opens in the vulva between the clitoris and the vaginal opening, extending from the internal to the external urethral orifice. It is placed behind the symphysis pubis, embedded in the anterior wall of the vagina, and its direction is obliquely downward and forward; it is slightly curved with the concavity directed forward.
Quote from: Nichole on July 23, 2008, 01:32:23 PM
As for your question about color, my dear, why do you imagine? I have a few thoughts the main one being that it's never dawned on the folks who make them that there is a "need" for making them. As to why that's true, I'd allow them to answer that. You might consider asking the manufacturers though. Sometimes, if they wanna make money badly enough they might hear you.
Nichole
Thanks Nichole, I've emailed a couple of them :) Great idea
And thanks for the info Jay and Drik, lol Monty you're probably right. Lol Nero :P
QuoteQuote from: JENNIFER on Today at 21:12:37
I am sorry but I have to ask you something pertinent, What length of urethra does a woman need to have a wee?
Hmm I don't know how reliable wikipedia is but here's what I found:
Male Urethra: In the human male, the urethra is about 8 inches (15 cm) long and opens at the end of the penis. The inside of the urethra has a spiral groove (like rifling in a gun barrel), which makes the urine flow in a wide stream.
Female Urethra: In the human female, the urethra is about 1 1/2-2 inches (3-5 cm) long and opens in the vulva between the clitoris and the vaginal opening, extending from the internal to the external urethral orifice. It is placed behind the symphysis pubis, embedded in the anterior wall of the vagina, and its direction is obliquely downward and forward; it is slightly curved with the concavity directed forward.
I am sorry, my point was missed. I was trying torelate to how relevent a 'pee tube' was to gender. Clearly a female has a somewhat shorter urethra than that of a male and I was attempting to question penis length in relation to having a wee and whether it matters :-\
You're welcome, Havok. You guys are all wonderful fellows. Makes me quite glad to find I've actually said something a man listens to!! :)
N~
Ooh.. when I mean that 3 inch is too small.. I mean that, using public bathrooms (or places where you'll have to stand and pee) it might be hard. From what Ive heard.. its hard to just pull down the zipper and hold the packer like a fleshpenis, cause its too small, causing people to pee on their pants
Quote from: Drik on July 23, 2008, 05:16:06 PM
Ooh.. when I mean that 3 inch is too small.. I mean that, using public bathrooms (or places where you'll have to stand and pee) it might be hard. From what Ive heard.. its hard to just pull down the zipper and hold the packer like a fleshpenis, cause its too small, causing people to pee on their pants
1ST, They should be concentrating on their own peeing and not scrutinising your equipment.
2ND, If you are in that situation, you shall be well aware of how best to avoid 'accidents' and you always have the option of a private cubicle in most venues. :)
I think mine was around 1 1/2 to 2 inches and it could have gone to 4 inches flacid, depending on how cold I was. I had no problems. You don't wait until that last moment to go pee. In the mens room, they don't look at you, if they do it could mean trouble. You stare at the wall until your done. Don't worry about anyone else. Then leave.
Quote from: JENNIFER on July 23, 2008, 04:47:45 PM
QuoteQuote from: JENNIFER on Today at 21:12:37
I am sorry but I have to ask you something pertinent, What length of urethra does a woman need to have a wee?
Hmm I don't know how reliable wikipedia is but here's what I found:
Male Urethra: In the human male, the urethra is about 8 inches (15 cm) long and opens at the end of the penis. The inside of the urethra has a spiral groove (like rifling in a gun barrel), which makes the urine flow in a wide stream.
Female Urethra: In the human female, the urethra is about 1 1/2-2 inches (3-5 cm) long and opens in the vulva between the clitoris and the vaginal opening, extending from the internal to the external urethral orifice. It is placed behind the symphysis pubis, embedded in the anterior wall of the vagina, and its direction is obliquely downward and forward; it is slightly curved with the concavity directed forward.
I am sorry, my point was missed. I was trying torelate to how relevent a 'pee tube' was to gender. Clearly a female has a somewhat shorter urethra than that of a male and I was attempting to question penis length in relation to having a wee and whether it matters :-\
Ahhhh. Thought you were asking for your benefit. Well, it's relevant for whenever in the future I begin my RLE and have to start using male restrooms. I use the bathroom quite frequently so there's no option of "holding it til I get home" for me. I guess it matters because it's harder to make it look like you're peeing standing up, even if you're in a stall, especially when the equipment you've got isn't made for that. Also, I like the idea of having a packer. Even if it's not a real penis, it makes me feel like I'll at least be one step closer to having one. And third, when I begin RLE I want to look as much like a male as possible. Even if this body doesn't have the parts, I can at least substitute them to look how I feel inside.
Quote from: JENNIFER on July 23, 2008, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: Drik on July 23, 2008, 05:16:06 PM
Ooh.. when I mean that 3 inch is too small.. I mean that, using public bathrooms (or places where you'll have to stand and pee) it might be hard. From what Ive heard.. its hard to just pull down the zipper and hold the packer like a fleshpenis, cause its too small, causing people to pee on their pants
1ST, They should be concentrating on their own peeing and not scrutinising your equipment.
2ND, If you are in that situation, you shall be well aware of how best to avoid 'accidents' and you always have the option of a private cubicle in most venues. :)
Lol Jen :) I think Drik was trying to say that the one with the packer (ie the FTM using the fake penis) is the one who's going to be peeing on themselves because a three incher is hard to use. It's hard to use one that size when you haven't practiced all your life I suppose :-\
Quote from: trapthavok on July 23, 2008, 06:09:55 PM
Lol Jen :) I think Drik was trying to say that the one with the packer (ie the FTM using the fake penis) is the one who's going to be peeing on themselves because a three incher is hard to use. It's hard to use one that size when you haven't practiced all your life I suppose :-\
LOL.
yes, exactly.
thanks dude ^_^
Quote from: trapthavok on July 22, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
I'm 5'6 so I feel like I'm in limbo. Not short but not tall, so I don't know what's an "appropriate" size.
I'm FTM; I'm only 5'2". My husband (non-trans) is only 5'5". Our best male friend (non-trans) is only 5'4". (I've never measured their flacid penises, though.) Anyhow...hang out with us and you'll feel tall. :)
QuoteReply email from mango products: Hi Nathan,
I have only a few of the 5 1/2 in. Mangos left, but no more Packys. I suggest you
order soon. One to a customer, please.
Thanks
WTF does this mean?? Aren't mangos and packys the same thing on that site?? And they didn't answer my question if they had the chocolate color or not, just the size. Annoying. Can anyone decode that email for me?
Quote from: Benjamin on July 23, 2008, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: trapthavok on July 22, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
I'm 5'6 so I feel like I'm in limbo. Not short but not tall, so I don't know what's an "appropriate" size.
I'm FTM; I'm only 5'2". My husband (non-trans) is only 5'5". Our best male friend (non-trans) is only 5'4". (I've never measured their flacid penises, though.) Anyhow...hang out with us and you'll feel tall. :)
Haha nice. I like standing next to people and feeling tall, but I wouldn't take advantage of you guys that way!
QuoteWTF does this mean?? Aren't mangos and packys the same thing on that site?? And they didn't answer my question if they had the chocolate color or not, just the size. Annoying. Can anyone decode that email for me?
A mango is an STP device, which is basically the packy with a latex tube and receptacle/spoon inserted.
A packy is just that, the packer, with no tubing or stp device inserted.
The packy is cheap (around $12 or so); the Mango is like $65.
I have both. My fave is the 3.5" packy but you can't pee with it. I do like the Mango stp in the 5.5", but I hate the balls because they're too thin and flimsy. The balls on the short packy are more realistic in size (imho).
That's why I made an STP out of my packy.
Jay
If he's very short, Nero, than I must be a midget!
Well, I'm not short for a MEXICAN dude. Now if only I was Mexican... I know quite a few Mexican guys that are shorter than me!
As for dick size, it's not always proportional to the body. Just to let you know. But it's probably smarter (and nicer looking) to choose an appropriate size.
Have your tried Good Vibrations? I understand their "soft pack" is pretty nice. (I've not seen it in person, so I can't comment personally.) They're based out of Berkley, CA, so they may keep a better stock of different colors, especially since they have their own products special-made for them, rather than relying on what they can buy out of China.
My Mango packer took for freakin' ever to arrive, so next time I'll shell out the little bit extra and buy Stateside. The GV Soft pack will definitely be on my shortlist.
Quote from: sneakersjay on July 23, 2008, 11:14:11 PM
QuoteWTF does this mean?? Aren't mangos and packys the same thing on that site?? And they didn't answer my question if they had the chocolate color or not, just the size. Annoying. Can anyone decode that email for me?
A mango is an STP device, which is basically the packy with a latex tube and receptacle/spoon inserted.
A packy is just that, the packer, with no tubing or stp device inserted.
The packy is cheap (around $12 or so); the Mango is like $65.
I have both. My fave is the 3.5" packy but you can't pee with it. I do like the Mango stp in the 5.5", but I hate the balls because they're too thin and flimsy. The balls on the short packy are more realistic in size (imho).
That's why I made an STP out of my packy.
Jay
Thanks Jay, that's honestly helpful :)
Quote from: Elwood on July 23, 2008, 11:35:02 PM
As for dick size, it's not always proportional to the body. Just to let you know. But it's probably smarter (and nicer looking) to choose an appropriate size.
Yeah but how many have I seen? :D Or wanted to see :eusa_sick: I think from what I know I should probably have a 4 inch, that would be an appropriate size to me, but apparently they only come in 3 or 5, too small or too big -.-
Quote from: Jamie-o on July 24, 2008, 05:02:42 AM
Have your tried Good Vibrations? I understand their "soft pack" is pretty nice. (I've not seen it in person, so I can't comment personally.) They're based out of Berkley, CA, so they may keep a better stock of different colors, especially since they have their own products special-made for them, rather than relying on what they can buy out of China.
My Mango packer took for freakin' ever to arrive, so next time I'll shell out the little bit extra and buy Stateside. The GV Soft pack will definitely be on my shortlist.
No not yet but thanks for the tip!
Mango did take forever to ship (1 month) but they were up front about it. It was worth the wait.
The Good Vibe says it's made of Cyberskin. Cyberskin feels real, but it smells fake (IMO) and is porous and hard to clean.
I've heard good things about the Mr. Right, which is silicone. I have a Lola Jake silicone packer (and Sam Plus). The packer is firmer than the cheapy packy and always points down. I wore it 24/7 on vacation to see if I'd like it and bottom line is I do NOT like it; I like to be able to *play* with myself (in private, at night, LOL) and with it being in a fixed position that's hard to do (personal preference on my part).
The larger Lola Jake Pack & Play models -- I forked over $600 and am NOT happy with it (unrealisitic coloring, plastic/rubber feel, stp hole not right). I posted a review a week or so ago; you can scroll to find it.
Jay
Quote from: trapthavok on July 24, 2008, 10:02:44 AMQuote from: Elwood on July 23, 2008, 11:35:02 PMAs for dick size, it's not always proportional to the body. Just to let you know. But it's probably smarter (and nicer looking) to choose an appropriate size.
Yeah but how many have I seen? :D Or wanted to see :eusa_sick: I think from what I know I should probably have a 4 inch, that would be an appropriate size to me, but apparently they only come in 3 or 5, too small or too big -.-
Meh. As soon as I questioned my gender, I got curious enough to go penis-hunting online. I wanted to become really familiar with it so that I won't settle with ->-bleeped-<-ty looking surgeries.
Since I like to be modest about packing, I'd go too small rather than too big. Too big to me feels like over compensating. But that's just my opinion.
Quote from: sneakersjay on July 24, 2008, 10:39:20 AM
Mango did take forever to ship (1 month) but they were up front about it. It was worth the wait.
The Good Vibe says it's made of Cyberskin. Cyberskin feels real, but it smells fake (IMO) and is porous and hard to clean.
I've heard good things about the Mr. Right, which is silicone. I have a Lola Jake silicone packer (and Sam Plus). The packer is firmer than the cheapy packy and always points down. I wore it 24/7 on vacation to see if I'd like it and bottom line is I do NOT like it; I like to be able to *play* with myself (in private, at night, LOL) and with it being in a fixed position that's hard to do (personal preference on my part).
The larger Lola Jake Pack & Play models -- I forked over $600 and am NOT happy with it (unrealisitic coloring, plastic/rubber feel, stp hole not right). I posted a review a week or so ago; you can scroll to find it.
Jay
Hmmm I really like the Mango. Good heads up about the other company. I don't really want to have to make the STP myself, honestly.
Quote from: Elwood on July 24, 2008, 07:24:54 PM
Quote from: trapthavok on July 24, 2008, 10:02:44 AMQuote from: Elwood on July 23, 2008, 11:35:02 PMAs for dick size, it's not always proportional to the body. Just to let you know. But it's probably smarter (and nicer looking) to choose an appropriate size.
Yeah but how many have I seen? :D Or wanted to see :eusa_sick: I think from what I know I should probably have a 4 inch, that would be an appropriate size to me, but apparently they only come in 3 or 5, too small or too big -.-
Meh. As soon as I questioned my gender, I got curious enough to go penis-hunting online. I wanted to become really familiar with it so that I won't settle with ->-bleeped-<-ty looking surgeries.
Since I like to be modest about packing, I'd go too small rather than too big. Too big to me feels like over compensating. But that's just my opinion.
I'm going to use my STP as a packer simultaneously, so I can only spend my money once :P I don't really have money to throw around. I just want something that's going to at least appear realistic (with my pants on I mean) I want to look as real as possible. Plus I don't want to pee on myself like Drik said ><
I've seen penises online, but only when I started looking for packers did I start looking purposely. I still don't like looking at them purposely but I figure that's because they gross me out sexually and I need to remind myself I'm just doing research and not looking at them that way.
Quote from: trapthavok on July 22, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
So this is probably a horrible question, but it's been bugging me.
With STPs is it easier to use the bathroom when you've got a 3incher? (Can you use it one handed instead of two handed?)
Does it really matter what size you get?
When I get one, I plan on using stalls still, not urinals, just cause I want to take the extra precaution. But I just wanted to make sure I don't necessarily need a realistic size. I'm 5'6 so I feel like I'm in limbo. Not short but not tall, so I don't know what's an "appropriate" size.
Also, one last question on STPs....is a harness best?
i have never heard that there is a correlation of a man's height to his, um, length.
all of the guys i ever met that had a really "scary" length, were just average height.
I'd say even though I use a sock I fold it in such a way that it looks pretty real even with just my underwear on. What's fake about it is how it doesn't really move and it doesn't feel real at all.
I don't think penises would gross me out sexually even if I was a heterosexual male because guys like hand jobs and stuff (generally).
Thanks ell!!
Hmm...My sister says one of the reasons she could never be lesbian is that vaginas gross her out :-\ I just figured I had the same thing going with me and penises.
Quote from: trapthavok on July 24, 2008, 08:28:56 PM
Thanks ell!!
Hmm...My sister says one of the reasons she could never be lesbian is that vaginas gross her out :-\ I just figured I had the same thing going with me and penises.
LOL!
i'm almost afraid to ask for a clarification there.
Quote from: trapthavok on July 24, 2008, 08:28:56 PM
Thanks ell!!
Hmm...My sister says one of the reasons she could never be lesbian is that vaginas gross her out :-\ I just figured I had the same thing going with me and penises.
And here I thought most bio-males LOVED their own penises...as playthings... ::)
I haven't really thought of it that way yet. All I know is other guy's penises are disgusting, but I've only ever thought about it sexually because I thought I was a straight female for 18 years and the thought of ever seeing one terrified me. I just recently realized that I've only seen it that way, so I'm getting more and more eager about the thought of a packer/STP...cause I never thought about a penis on me. Maybe I will like it that way Jay, who knows :P
I don't know if you're still considering the packer on Good Vibes, but just as a warning, they seem to be shipping really slow. I e-mailed them about it and they said that they're waiting on a shipment and don't know when they'll be shipping the packers out next. But that was for the vanilla ones, I don't know if the situation is the same with the chocolate ones, maybe they can ship those out right away? Anyways, thought you might want a heads up if you were thinking about them.
If you think penises are disgusting, you might react very badly to phalloplasty. See, you don't like dicks, and you've never had to look at your own 3 or 4 times a day. It might be a shock to you. You've got to remember that these things are irreversible, and I know if I hated dicks that I wouldn't be considering getting one myself.
Quote from: trapthavok on July 24, 2008, 11:04:24 PM
I haven't really thought of it that way yet. All I know is other guy's penises are disgusting, but I've only ever thought about it sexually because I thought I was a straight female
Like I said before, most of my life I've been more obsessed with the upper portion of a male's body. I never said I was considering phalloplasty, I would just be happy with an STP. I realize that you really want a penis, but I figure not every male does. Some of us just want T, some of us don't want surgery at all.....Personally I just want the STP and end it at that, when it comes to my lower half. (Oh, and T to get my legs hairier....I hate wearing shorts, my legs are too smooth even without shaving).
IMHO standing to pee really only comes in handy when you're out in the wilderness and you've had a few cokes too many. Other than that why stand when you can sit?
Eh, just one of my many quirks I suppose. I like doing it :)
QuoteDoes size matter?
As a post-op girl whose boyfriend is a FTM, no it doesn't matter, but hey what do I know?...perhaps I am being biased! LOL ;D So as you see, everything is a matter of interpretation. A penis doesn't make anyone a "male or a boy", believe me...it doesn't! *giggles* :)
tink :icon_chick:
And here I thought most bio-males LOVED their own penises...as playthings..
Loving your own is not like liking other ones.
Quote from: trapthavok on July 25, 2008, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: trapthavok on July 24, 2008, 11:04:24 PM
I haven't really thought of it that way yet. All I know is other guy's penises are disgusting, but I've only ever thought about it sexually because I thought I was a straight female
Like I said before, most of my life I've been more obsessed with the upper portion of a male's body. I never said I was considering phalloplasty, I would just be happy with an STP. I realize that you really want a penis, but I figure not every male does. Some of us just want T, some of us don't want surgery at all.....Personally I just want the STP and end it at that, when it comes to my lower half. (Oh, and T to get my legs hairier....I hate wearing shorts, my legs are too smooth even without shaving).
You're right. Some guys (though not many) don't really like their penises for one reason or another.
I personally want T and top surgery. I'm on the fence regarding bottom surgery. If I have a phalloplasty I can then penetrate, but it doesn't have it's own erection and it doesn't really look like a penis (to me, anyway). So I see one benefit from it and many failures. I think it's most likely that I'll just make due with a strap on or something...
-sigh- :-\
I don't think STP is a big deal to me, but I might try an inexpensive one that doesn't shape like a penis. I'd just find it weird to carry a penis around...
My legs are pretty hairy, I think, but my dad says they aren't as hairy as a guy's. So I was a little POed because I had a lot of confidence about that until he showed me his legs, lol...
Quote from: Elwood on July 26, 2008, 11:28:31 AM
Quote from: trapthavok on July 25, 2008, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: trapthavok on July 24, 2008, 11:04:24 PM
I haven't really thought of it that way yet. All I know is other guy's penises are disgusting, but I've only ever thought about it sexually because I thought I was a straight female
Like I said before, most of my life I've been more obsessed with the upper portion of a male's body. I never said I was considering phalloplasty, I would just be happy with an STP. I realize that you really want a penis, but I figure not every male does. Some of us just want T, some of us don't want surgery at all.....Personally I just want the STP and end it at that, when it comes to my lower half. (Oh, and T to get my legs hairier....I hate wearing shorts, my legs are too smooth even without shaving).
You're right. Some guys (though not many) don't really like their penises for one reason or another.
I personally want T and top surgery. I'm on the fence regarding bottom surgery. If I have a phalloplasty I can then penetrate, but it doesn't have it's own erection and it doesn't really look like a penis (to me, anyway). So I see one benefit from it and many failures. I think it's most likely that I'll just make due with a strap on or something... -sigh- :-\
I don't think STP is a big deal to me, but I might try an inexpensive one that doesn't shape like a penis. I'd just find it weird to carry a penis around...
My legs are pretty hairy, I think, but my dad says they aren't as hairy as a guy's. So I was a little POed because I had a lot of confidence about that until he showed me his legs, lol...
Trust me, I am sure that somewhere out there, (actually about 5 blocks from my house) there is more than one guy who has less leg hair then you, and probably plenty more.
Well, I did a trial run with a couple of different socks today. I guess because it's that time..of the month...I'm going to take this trial with a grain of salt.
What ended up happening, since I don't want to put the socks on the inside of my underwear was I made two different lengths : One three and a half inches, and the other five and a half inches. Then I tied them around the outside of my underwear (only wore one at a time of course, during different times of the day) with some shoelace. I didn't really notice either of them most of the day, I got really comfortable with it.
The only thing was, I was kinda free ballin I guess and my shorts are mens small/boys 18, so whenever I sit down the packer kinda slides down one pants leg or the other. Is this how it's gonna be if I wear boxers? How do people keep these things under control?
Heheh. I can wear it during my period. I don't let it touch my skin directly, otherwise it would get funky and produce feminine stench rather quickly. That's why I double layer.
And yes, the pack will choose a side if you wear boxers. That's one reason I like briefs. I like to feel symmetrical.
Quote from: Elwood on July 26, 2008, 11:06:30 PM
Heheh. I can wear it during my period. I don't let it touch my skin directly, otherwise it would get funky and produce feminine stench rather quickly. That's why I double layer.
And yes, the pack will choose a side if you wear boxers. That's one reason I like briefs. I like to feel symmetrical.
Egh.....I've always been a boxers fan :( I hate briefs...but it's kinda weird having it choose a side...
Quote from: trapthavok on July 26, 2008, 11:11:46 PMEgh.....I've always been a boxers fan :( I hate briefs...but it's kinda weird having it choose a side...
A lot of guys deal with this. And by guys I mean guys with penises. You'll either get used to it or change what kind of panties you want to wear. :) Until my pecker is a part of my body, I won't be wearing boxers. If there comes a time where I have a penis that is connected to my body, I think boxers would be quite comfortable.
Quote from: Elwood on July 26, 2008, 11:28:07 PM
Quote from: trapthavok on July 26, 2008, 11:11:46 PMEgh.....I've always been a boxers fan :( I hate briefs...but it's kinda weird having it choose a side...
A lot of guys deal with this. And by guys I mean guys with penises. You'll either get used to it or change what kind of panties you want to wear. :) Until my pecker is a part of my body, I won't be wearing boxers. If there comes a time where I have a penis that is connected to my body, I think boxers would be quite comfortable.
One more, apologies if I am instruding on FtoM space. As a reluctant male, my view is that Boxers might be roomy and healthy but also quite useless when it comes to control. My current underwear does not include loose or flimsies because my hated testicles just bounce about and of course my small thingy shows under the clothes still, perhaps you boys might dream of such problems and my thoughts seem daft.
The only things I want bouncing around are further up my body ;)
Quote from: trapthavok on July 22, 2008, 01:03:42 PM
Quote from: Nero on July 22, 2008, 12:56:42 PM
You ARE short by male standards. Very short, in fact.
Damn, I know but I didn't want to admit it :D I've always wanted to be six feet tall like my dad, but I know I'm done growing :-\
I probably should have read the whole thread to see if anyone followed up on this aspect. Yes, the average male height in the US is about 5-feet 10-inches, but that means that half of all American men are shorter. My dad was 5-feet 7-inches. I reached 5-feet 8-inches as a genetic male, but have shrunk to 5-feet 6-and-a-half-inches--possibly from working at UPS where I lift packages up to about 120 pounds without assistance.
My brother-in-law, 5-feet 6-inches has always been an competitive athlete. He grew up running track and playing soccer. He plays tennis, golf, and is nationally ranked in squash. He is also damnably good at word games, particularly Boggle, which is a family favorite. Size has proven no obstacle to success in life--and when I visit Italy I can even see over the crowds. It is the size of your heart, not your frame or private parts, that matters.
Live long and prosper,
S
Quote from: JENNIFER on July 27, 2008, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: Elwood on July 26, 2008, 11:28:07 PM
Quote from: trapthavok on July 26, 2008, 11:11:46 PMEgh.....I've always been a boxers fan :( I hate briefs...but it's kinda weird having it choose a side...
A lot of guys deal with this. And by guys I mean guys with penises. You'll either get used to it or change what kind of panties you want to wear. :) Until my pecker is a part of my body, I won't be wearing boxers. If there comes a time where I have a penis that is connected to my body, I think boxers would be quite comfortable.
One more, apologies if I am instruding on FtoM space. As a reluctant male, my view is that Boxers might be roomy and healthy but also quite useless when it comes to control. My current underwear does not include loose or flimsies because my hated testicles just bounce about and of course my small thingy shows under the clothes still, perhaps you boys might dream of such problems and my thoughts seem daft.
The only things I want bouncing around are further up my body ;)
No way. Even though I want a male anatomy, I won't have fun with my junk bouncing around. It will be uncomfortable, and I'll want some support. I'd like to think of myself as a pretty realistic thinking FtM.
Quote from: JENNIFER on July 27, 2008, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: Elwood on July 26, 2008, 11:28:07 PM
Quote from: trapthavok on July 26, 2008, 11:11:46 PMEgh.....I've always been a boxers fan :( I hate briefs...but it's kinda weird having it choose a side...
A lot of guys deal with this. And by guys I mean guys with penises. You'll either get used to it or change what kind of panties you want to wear. :) Until my pecker is a part of my body, I won't be wearing boxers. If there comes a time where I have a penis that is connected to my body, I think boxers would be quite comfortable.
One more, apologies if I am instruding on FtoM space. As a reluctant male, my view is that Boxers might be roomy and healthy but also quite useless when it comes to control. My current underwear does not include loose or flimsies because my hated testicles just bounce about and of course my small thingy shows under the clothes still, perhaps you boys might dream of such problems and my thoughts seem daft.
The only things I want bouncing around are further up my body ;)
You're not intruding, and LOL at the things further up your body, most of us FTMs don't want those moving at all ;)
Quote from: trapthavok on July 26, 2008, 08:24:45 PM
Well, I did a trial run with a couple of different socks today. I guess because it's that time..of the month...I'm going to take this trial with a grain of salt.
What ended up happening, since I don't want to put the socks on the inside of my underwear was I made two different lengths : One three and a half inches, and the other five and a half inches. Then I tied them around the outside of my underwear (only wore one at a time of course, during different times of the day) with some shoelace. I didn't really notice either of them most of the day, I got really comfortable with it.
The only thing was, I was kinda free ballin I guess and my shorts are mens small/boys 18, so whenever I sit down the packer kinda slides down one pants leg or the other. Is this how it's gonna be if I wear boxers? How do people keep these things under control?
i think both those lengths are a little large, especially if visible under the clothes.
most guys have a bit of a bulge, but unless they're getting an erection in their pants (which is a real no-no) you can't judge their length. i'm not including singers like Robert Plant or Tom Jones, who are just scary even in a relaxed state.
a little bit of bulge is most acceptable. even if the bulge is a little too large, it's extremely noticeable, and indicates an erection (which, again, is just not cool).
-Ell
Quote from: Lisbeff's Ellie on July 28, 2008, 03:20:05 PM
Quote from: trapthavok on July 26, 2008, 08:24:45 PM
Well, I did a trial run with a couple of different socks today. I guess because it's that time..of the month...I'm going to take this trial with a grain of salt.
What ended up happening, since I don't want to put the socks on the inside of my underwear was I made two different lengths : One three and a half inches, and the other five and a half inches. Then I tied them around the outside of my underwear (only wore one at a time of course, during different times of the day) with some shoelace. I didn't really notice either of them most of the day, I got really comfortable with it.
The only thing was, I was kinda free ballin I guess and my shorts are mens small/boys 18, so whenever I sit down the packer kinda slides down one pants leg or the other. Is this how it's gonna be if I wear boxers? How do people keep these things under control?
i think both those lengths are a little large, especially if visible under the clothes.
most guys have a bit of a bulge, but unless they're getting an erection in their pants (which is a real no-no) you can't judge their length. i'm not including singers like Robert Plant or Tom Jones, who are just scary even in a relaxed state.
a little bit of bulge is most acceptable. even if the bulge is a little too large, it's extremely noticeable, and indicates an erection (which, again, is just not cool).
-Ell
I guess I saw it as big cause I'm not used to it yet. No one ever really notices, and I guess the bulge isn't HUGE enough to look like an erection. I just chose the sizes that the STP sites offer to do a trial run of which I'll be more comfortable with, so they should be fairly normal sizes.
Also when I sit down, the inseam of the shorts slides up a bit too, so that's probably why it's choosing a side.
At any rate, no one would be able to see it if you're wearing boxers and shorts, even if it chooses a side right? I'm paranoid about that, though I don't think anyone does...
3 inches is fine. flaccid, most guys are about 3-4 inches
Thanks. I think my final decision is the 3 inch. It would probably be best if I had the 5 inch, but I'm most comfortable with the 3 inch :) Just for peeing, I'm over my size hang up now
......Just for STP though ;)