Lutin asked
QuoteAnd how much scarring/loss of sensation is there after a mastectomy? I'm DD - so no hope, stick to shoddy binding? 'Cause as a few people have said, I'm (no pun intended) rather attached to them, they're part of me, but oh! that dream of being male-flat...
Scarring really depends on the person. I don't have much, just two lines under my pecs that you can't see too well when I'm tanned. The scars under my arms stretched a little, but it doesn't bother me. As for loss of sensation, I never had any feeling in my nipples and I don't now. I had numb patches in my chest after surgery that slowly came back over a year or two.
This is the latest picture I have of me shirtless - about 3 years after surgery (pardon the muffin top, still need to drop a few pounds)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmembers.shaw.ca%2Fdennisjevans%2Fdenfish3.jpg&hash=f9d9529c95e4d07d5397f7cb177cca9d10626f18)
Dennis
Wow Den, you look incredible. Congrats :eusa_clap:
May I add how masculine you are? If I were holding that fish I'd be screaming like a little girl, lol I can handle dead fish, not live.
I'm actually looking forward to some decreased sensation in my nipples. Cripes, the littlest thing sometimes hurts them. :o I'd prefer some sensation, but I'll take what I get if I can get a chest like Den's!!!!
You look fab, dude!!
Jay
Dennis, you look great. =]
Jay, I know what you mean about looking forward to decreased sensation. I've tried the nipple thing, but it just don't do it for me. I get this weird crawly sensation whenever I mess with 'em, and I don't like it. :s
Wow you do look great Den! I guess the tan does hide any scarring.
Jeeeebus o.o
You've given me hope lol,
I've only been told about the crappy surgery where it makes you look like you have a zip across your chest. But that looks great o.o
Could we go on a date sometime????
Damn! You're cute!
-Sandy(I'm free this Saturday!)
I'm the same way too Dennis, I've never had much feeling in the two guys XD Plus, I never felt much like they were part of my body so I never really liked to play with them.
Dude, what ever doubts I had about you being a real.........................
Fisherman....................
Were erased, I can see the beer in the pic.
What ever doubts I had about you being a real.......................
lawyer....................
Erased too, I can see the cell phone too.
I go skiing with a friend of mine who is a lawyer (yes, I'm very open minded) who stops to take a call in the middle of a run. And I'm all like "Hey, this ain't your office Beeeeatch!" And she tell me to shut up, I'm not paying her bills.
Quote from: tekla on August 15, 2008, 04:42:37 PM
Dude, what ever doubts I had about you being a real.........................
Fisherman....................
Were erased, I can see the beer in the pic.
What ever doubts I had about you being a real.......................
lawyer....................
Erased too, I can see the cell phone too.
I go skiing with a friend of mine who is a lawyer (yes, I'm very open minded) who stops to take a call in the middle of a run. And I'm all like "Hey, this ain't your office Beeeeatch!" And she tell me to shut up, I'm not paying her bills.
Nup, ain't a cell phone. There's no cell service out there anyway, which is the way I like it. That's a radio so we can communicate wtih base camp and the other boats. I totally resent it when someone calls me about something work related on my cell. I even resisted getting one for years because I didn't want people to call me.
You may resume your doubting now.
Dennis
Oh, resume? You optimist you. I never stop.
And my phone has walkie-talkie built in (and who the hell thought up that name? Had we let that moron name the "gun" he would have called a 'rooty-tootie point and shootie') and I'm all in favor of keeping up with the people in my ski club (OK, its not a ski club, its a drinking club that has a skiing problem).
But you're off the list bud! If I can't get my lawyer in the middle of the night in the middle of the lake, them I'm stuck in the cell all night with Bruno, which will make him happy I'm sure, but.... I'm not going to be thrilled.
Dennis, you look fantastic!
Quote from: tekla on August 15, 2008, 06:19:18 PM
rooty-tootie point and shootie
I want one. Where can I find this rooty-tootie point and shootie?
Anywhere in America that is not a major city. We worship them.
I'll probably end up heavily scarred like after the reduction sugery had several years ago. Why thinking maybe some well designed and placed tattooing might make it less obvious lol
Of course I could be lucky too. LOL Might of been the infection had that caused the scarring last time, plus the weight on it, and my tendecny to pick on anything scabby or peeling like surgical glue lol
That's kind of iccky, or TMI at least.
You look awesome dude! May we all aspire to look as great after surgery :) Heh
Lookin good Dennis. lookin good bro. Yep Brownstein knows his stuff ;). I seen my buddy's top surgery. He just got it done 3 months ago and it aint nothin like mine, to many scars & the nipples are to big. dunno. but he's happy w/it. I'm only 1 yr post op. went to Brownstein to & I'm very happy w/my results. u still can see the scar lines b/c they're a different color then the rest of my skin but when I grow hair on my chest, someday :D :eusa_pray: everythin's gonna look better :laugh: Hope its soon :laugh:
Wow! That's amazing! I saw one photo of someone post-op and it looked a) incredibly painful, b) like they had said zip straight down the (ex-)cleavage line, and c) like it would never look remotely like the real deal.
Thanks for posting that!!! ;D
Dennis,
You look GREAT man!
Camden
Quote from: tekla on August 15, 2008, 06:19:18 PM
And my phone has walkie-talkie built in (and who the hell thought up that name? Had we let that moron name the "gun" he would have called a 'rooty-tootie point and shootie') and I'm all in favor of keeping up with the people in my ski club (OK, its not a ski club, its a drinking club that has a skiing problem).
My girlfriend and I have been having way too much fun with that rooty-tooty point and shootie thing:
her: "You know what that truck really needs to be a manly truck? A rooty-tooty point and shootie rack"
me: "Watch yourself woman or you'll be lookin' at the wrong end of my rooty-tooty point and shootie."
You know, I think if it was renamed that, American guys wouldn't be quite as into gun culture.
Dennis
I have a decent amount of scarring, but I've tattooed over it. Now my chest piece is much more noticable than my scars. As for sensation, I have two spots about the size of an Oreo cookie where I have no sensation. My nippes have about 90% of the sensation they had previously, despite having nipple grafts.
Yeah, I actually do have some sensation in the nipples, not none. It's more than I did have, but it doesn't feel erotic or anything (dunno if guys are supposed to feel that - no experience with guys really).
I have blond chest hairs over the scars, and the pattern has been for me that I first get fine blond hair then it turns dark and coarse, so I have hopes that I'll get some chest hair to minimize it more.
What kind of tattoos did you get? That's been an option I've considered - can you show pics?
Dennis
My chest is part of a full bodysuit, all traditional tribal (read: not fratboy tribal). I'd rather not post pictures since it's fairly distinct to preserve my stealthiness.
Quote from: Mister on August 25, 2008, 12:27:27 AM
I have a decent amount of scarring, but I've tattooed over it. Now my chest piece is much more noticable than my scars. As for sensation, I have two spots about the size of an Oreo cookie where I have no sensation. My nippes have about 90% of the sensation they had previously, despite having nipple grafts.
Sweet! I want the nipple grafts, but I didn't think there'd be any sensation at all.
I don't so much want the chest hairs though so I'm hoping those scars will smooth over when I get to my op stage.
whats with sensation on nipples... Whats the pleser in it anyways. Never done anythink for me...
IME guys nipples have been more sensetive than girls. i think it has something to do with the women breatfeeding babies thing. cant have them being too sensetive or else it would hurt really bad to have a 10lb pile of goo sucking yout tits off!
Oh yeh never even thought of that Lol duh!
-sigh, sigh-
I've seen many surgical results. Guys loosing nipples, guy's tattooing nipples on, guys having funny-shaped nipples, guys having scabby nipples, guys having nipples in the wrong place...
I'm praying that keyhole will work out. I need to speak with an actual cosmetic surgeon before I make any decisions. I will ask him about the risks of it looking like a "deflated balloon" and all those horror stories. I really want to have real nipples that aren't little pictures on my chest. D: If they look a little big/weird, so what? Plenty of guys have different types of nipples. We're just used to seeing one kind on TV. I am lucky enough to have average sized nipples and they're in the perfect place. Thank God. The surgery SHOULD put them right where they belong.
Quote from: trapthavok on August 25, 2008, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: Mister on August 25, 2008, 12:27:27 AM
I have a decent amount of scarring, but I've tattooed over it. Now my chest piece is much more noticable than my scars. As for sensation, I have two spots about the size of an Oreo cookie where I have no sensation. My nippes have about 90% of the sensation they had previously, despite having nipple grafts.
Sweet! I want the nipple grafts, but I didn't think there'd be any sensation at all.
I don't so much want the chest hairs though so I'm hoping those scars will smooth over when I get to my op stage.
There is no guarantee of sensation with nipple grafts, I just got lucky. My surgeon is extremely pleased with how much sensation I have, so that tells me that most with nipple grafts do not have the same luck I did. A friend who went to the same surgeon a few weeks before cannot feel 95% of his chest. It's luck of the draw.
Posted on: August 25, 2008, 05:59:09 PM
Quote from: Elwood on August 25, 2008, 07:57:14 PM
-sigh, sigh-
I've seen many surgical results. Guys loosing nipples, guy's tattooing nipples on, guys having funny-shaped nipples, guys having scabby nipples, guys having nipples in the wrong place...
I'm praying that keyhole will work out. I need to speak with an actual cosmetic surgeon before I make any decisions. I will ask him about the risks of it looking like a "deflated balloon" and all those horror stories. I really want to have real nipples that aren't little pictures on my chest. D: If they look a little big/weird, so what? Plenty of guys have different types of nipples. We're just used to seeing one kind on TV. I am lucky enough to have average sized nipples and they're in the perfect place. Thank God. The surgery SHOULD put them right where they belong.
The surgeon I went to has had two nipples fall off in 30 years. I don't think it happens very often. There's things you can do to minimize the risk of this happening, such as keeping the surgical binder on as directed and not smoking. Smoking messes with your circulation and you need as much blood flowing as possible to reattach body parts!
Dennis you do look awesome dude! ;D
I really don't know if I could live with numb nipples. I had a weird little accident when I was 10 that left a quarter-sized patch on my leg numb and it drove me crazy until I got the sensation back. It's not lacking sexual sensation that bothers me because I'm not crazy about my nipples anyway, it's the feeling of being numb, it's just wrong.
I could live with numb nipples. I doubt I'll be having much of a sex life anyway. :-\
Quote from: Elwood on August 28, 2008, 05:40:35 PM
I could live with numb nipples. I doubt I'll be having much of a sex life anyway. :-\
aww man don't say that. you're cute and interesting. course you will.
Quote from: Nero on August 28, 2008, 06:14:32 PMQuote from: Elwood on August 28, 2008, 05:40:35 PMI could live with numb nipples. I doubt I'll be having much of a sex life anyway. :-\
aww man don't say that. you're cute and interesting. course you will.
Thanks. Although, I think that's the problem. I'm 'cute' and I so desperately don't want to be cute or treated like I'm cute. I want to be attractive or handsome or dapper. D:< Or SEXY for once!
Well you look dapper in that hat.
Good. :icon_twisted:
Haha Nero. In the movie "House Bunny" she wakes up and to her cat, says "Good morning, Pooter. You're looking dapper" and it makes me laugh really hard so I thought of that. Go see that movie, it's hilarious.