I was walking around the house yesterday, bored and with nothing to do. Since I live with my grandma I stumbled into the living room to see what she was watching. Interestingly enough she was watching a show about transexuals; it was an Oprah episode.
As I was watching my dad walked in and made a comment about how he could never in his entire life comprehend or understand how a man would ever want to become a woman.
So that set me back 9 more years *cries*...
I don't understand how a man would want to be a woman, either.
But don't worry, Brenda. You're no man. None of the girls here are. And I'm no woman.
He just doesn't get it, your old man.
Thank you, :) *hugs*
It is one thing to know I'm a woman and another to not be treated as such. Seems like I've been wearing a disguise for so long and I can't reach the zipper on my back. It seems I am going to need a lot of help from those who want to help me unzip myself out of this disguise. By the way: I hate mirrors.
Quote from: Elwood on August 23, 2008, 11:06:24 PM
I don't understand how a man would want to be a woman, either.
But don't worry, Brenda. You're no man. None of the girls here are. And I'm no woman.
He just doesn't get it, your old man.
Yeah. And stop telling him to be so old while you're at it!
Aww, dear. I'm so sorry! I love mirrors. I hope one day you can enjoy bobbing your head at yourself like a parrot!
(Two things in this world make me stupid: mirrors and kittens)
We'll help you reach that zipper. That zipper might get stuck (it happens with cheap costumes) but we'll keep on pulling. :)
I had a similar situation. I walked in on my mom "not watching" Dr. Phil (she was on the computer, very distracted) and it was an episode about trans people. A woman had brought her daughter on the show as well as her husband (or rather wife), the MtF in question.
I felt really horrible watching it because the mom and daughter were in tears sobbing about how they wanted their father/husband back, but the MtF (I never learned her name, sorry) was obstinate about being who she was and who she'd always felt she'd been. And I don't blame her. The irritating part was the mom, daughter, and doctor Phil each ganged up on her and were all like "take our feelings into consideration wah wah you're being selfish, I don't understand this trans thing." I felt so bad for the MtF woman, not so much for her family since they'd decided to bash her on tv.
I turned to my mom and began voicing how horrible they were being to her, then it occurred to me to ask her what she thought, and my mom goes "Hm? Oh, I think they're crazy. All transgendered people are crazy, there's something wrong with them!"
That almost set me back but I realized she didn't know the weight of her words and in doing so did not realize that she was calling her own son crazy. Because she didn't know yet that I'm not her daughter, I'm her son. I came out to her regardless, she thinks its a phase but loves me either way, and WOW doesn't think I'm crazy like I thought she would!
So don't take too much of what your dad said to heart :) It'll just make you crazy wondering how he feels about you, when he's just saying things he knows nothing about like my mom did. People say a lot of things they don't mean behind the veil of ignorance. I'm not saying your dad is ignorant, just that he doesn't know yet ;) Don't be too upset! :icon_hug:
Dr Phil is a radical right winger. Plus how does a fat guy write a diet book?
I effing hate that man. I remember the most guilt free thing I broke in this house was my moms Dr. Phil book. He's on the cover smiling with power, and is walking forward with his fist near his face or something.
I saw this, and when I was so angry with my mom I stabbed the hell out of it. First his eyes, then his fake body and fake TV crap.
My mom still looks in that book from time to time I think. If that book influenced her to make the stupid decisions she's made this past year, I will...
I dk. Lets say I want "Dr." to drive off a cliff or something... The jerk.
And I feel bad for the MtF more than the family. WHY? Cause they probably forced her to go on that DUMB REDNECK show.
I don't watch him. Its not a surprise he's uber conservative, but the fact he was calling an MtF selfish makes me want to break his nose with a golfclub.
I had moments too I suppose that set me back. The, "boys will be boys," crap made me want to just leave. I'd be antisocial anyway. Whenever they called me handsome. Whenever they'd say, "Now you're a man," part of me cringed.
Especially when I was out to myself. My mom was like, "Now you're man of the family," And I'd be like, "What did I just tell you about myself mom?"
And the fights would start again.
I HATE IT
Quote from: deviousxen on August 24, 2008, 11:49:54 AM
I don't watch him. Its not a surprise he's uber conservative, but the fact he was calling an MtF selfish makes me want to break his nose with a golfclub.
I second the motion. ;D
Needless to say I never really watched his show before this episode, and I will never watch another episode again. Thank you for judging something you know NOTHING about, Dr. A-hole.
Quote from: Mnemosyne on August 24, 2008, 09:59:06 AM
Dr Phil is a radical right winger. Plus how does a fat guy write a diet book?
:D That is a very good question. Also, he did a show that had a FtM on there and he actually said that he had no experience whatsoever in dealing with TS's of any kind. After admitting this he had the nerve to tell the guy that he wasn't ready to transition!!! What kind of information did he have to base that finding on?? Nothing more than the poor guy's parents whining on and on that he shouldn't transition. When it comes to TG issues, Dr Phil is a total hack.
Dr. Phil shouldn't have a job. More than half of the time I am certain he doesn't know what the hell he is talking about.
Well... Usually being a doctor takes a lot of text book stuff and all of that. I mean... Yes. He can technically say I'm not a girl, and that I didn't earn the suffix Ms., but he sure as effing hell didn't earn Dr.
Not to mention I'm not trying to be something I'm not.
My mom tells me I'm trying to be someone I'm not. "If you really liked yourself, you wouldn't have to change your body." I told her, "You just don't get it, do you? A man could never live as a woman. He just doesn't get it. He doesn't understand what it is to be a woman." She says I've never been a man.
"You must not know me very well then," I say.
I've referred to him as MISTER Phil, not doctor.
Bev
Quote from: Miss Bev on August 24, 2008, 05:08:58 PMI've referred to him as MISTER Phil, not doctor.
Bev
I refer to him as the Village Idiot.
About that episode
http://www.lauras-playground.com/drphil_springer_psychology.htm (http://www.lauras-playground.com/drphil_springer_psychology.htm)
Quote from: Elwood on August 24, 2008, 05:12:43 PM
Quote from: Miss Bev on August 24, 2008, 05:08:58 PMI've referred to him as MISTER Phil, not doctor.
Bev
I refer to him as the Village Idiot.
That village needs to be torched or something for the good of mankind.
I hate how someone can try and act superior when they have absolutely no perspective on the manner. It's not only a lack of understanding, it's a complete and utter lack of compassion. Dr. Phil is the chieftain of hypocrisy. The problem is most people will never be able to grasp what we deal with.
It is best for us to just avoid such people, and it's almost a waste of time to whine about them.
I hate him. To me it seems the stuff he does more likely to cause more problems not fix a single dang thing
Even if I did respect him I'd never be able to take him seriously. Him and that predictable droning voice of his...
I want to use his bald effing head as a turn table and DJ
re: the not being a doctor anymore, he lost it for having sexual relations with a patient (and he was married at the time).
Gives good relationship advice, that Dr. Phil. :P
Quote from: Imadique on August 26, 2008, 04:09:12 AM
re: the not being a doctor anymore, he lost it for having sexual relations with a patient (and he was married at the time).
Gives good relationship advice, that Dr. Phil. :P
Wow... Are you freakin' serious?
Somehow I'm not surprised.