For post top surgery guys, how does it feel? I expect it feels great, but does it feel strange to have them gone? Physically, mentally? What's it actually feel like to not have them there? I mean, does the way you move and do things feel any different?
im obviously not post op... but i dream of just feeling lighter and free!!!
Quote from: Nero on August 26, 2008, 07:46:02 PM
For post top surgery guys, how does it feel? I expect it feels great, but does it feel strange to have them gone? Physically, mentally? What's it actually feel like to not have them there? I mean, does the way you move and do things feel any different?
It feels pretty fantastic. The first time swimming was great. It takes a little while to really, truly remember that they're not there. I think this is partly due to not seeing your chest because of the surgical binder. I was quite large chested, so I had a lot to forget about. My ex caught me taking about my breasts in present tense for a couple of days after surgery, but I eventually stopped. Also, taking my shirt off to show people felt weird for a bit- had to get over the fact that I was not flashing anyone or being indecent.
Now I don't remember what it's like to have them. Honestly. I was thinking about it last night and I don't remember what it feels like to have breasts. Or a period, for that matter.
I can only use my imagination.
That weight will be gone. The jiggle will be mostly gone (except for my small pecs, lol). The pointy tit syndrome will be gone. I won't have to wear 3 shirts anymore. I can wear just one. I'll be able to let the wind beat on my whole torso without getting ticketed for "indecent exposure." I won't have to wear full body suits while swimming.
I imagine it will hurt for a while after. I imagine it will feel a little weird to have them gone. But weird is better than feeling alienated and gross. I think I'll get used to it and be very happy about it.
Pre-op speaking.
Frankly, I just wanna be able to look down and see more of my feet. ;D
Post-op 7 months and I think It's GREAT. Nothing jiggles anymore, like the stairs or speed bumps...My arms seem like they are longer because I can reach things in the back of a cupboard better- nothing there to squish! I still can't resist checking out my chest in evey mirror I walk by. (Sad but true) It just makes me smile! There is more room in your suitcase, less laundry, and think of the money you save on bras...I can buy cooler boxers now! Last but not least I can wear "wife beaters". LOL Camden
Quote from: Camden on August 28, 2008, 12:45:18 AM
Last but not least I can wear "wife beaters".
Is it weird how much I look forward to that? ;D
Nope, not at all. I wear just white undershirts pretty often- it's so nice to wear just one layer!
Pre-op I think it would feel amazing.....
I binded since I was 13 so they were never in my way. can go 2 da gym. take a shower there wearin boxers & nobody will notice nothin. its hella hot down here. I jog w/o shirt every morning. I dont gotta bind no more & it feels right. it feels like me.
Feels fantastic. The first time shirtless on the beach was amazing. Swimming without a shirt was great. There might have been a week or so where I'd avoid bumping them, even though they weren't there any more, but it was easy to get used to.
I don't really remember what it was like to have them, but I do remember looking in the mirror and thinking how not right it looked to have those things on my chest.
Dennis
I appologize, Nero, for breaking into the guys thread. But having been one, I thought I might have an insight. Though reversed from yours, of course.
I have noticed that I move differently now than when I was flat chested. One of the most noticeable things for me was having to adjust how I cross and move my arms. When I was flat, I could cross my arms across the middle part of my chest, whereas now I have to accomodate the "girls". Also moving my arms is different when my arms cross the front of my chest. So for you, I think you'll find your range of movement increased.
I've always felt embarassed being bare chested, but like Dennis mentioned, you'll probably feel it as freeing.
My mental state improved dramatically with my implants, so too, you should feel an improved mental outlook when you have yours removed.
I think one thing we can all agree on is having to wear a bra all day is a pain!
I'm sure that it's been mentioned before, but it would make things soooo much easier if the MTF's and the FTM's could just get together and to a parts swap! :D :D
-Sandy
Quote from: Kassandra on August 28, 2008, 09:30:07 AM
I'm sure that it's been mentioned before, but it would make things soooo much easier if the MTF's and the FTM's could just get together and to a parts swap! :D :D
I know, right!? I actually feel some guilt about this whole thing because I have a perfectly good female body already, and there are girls here who deserve that and haven't got it for whatever reason. I would love to be able to just trade off.
Quote from: Lindsey on August 28, 2008, 10:13:16 AM
Quote from: Kassandra on August 28, 2008, 09:30:07 AM
I'm sure that it's been mentioned before, but it would make things soooo much easier if the MTF's and the FTM's could just get together and to a parts swap! :D :D
I know, right!? I actually feel some guilt about this whole thing because I have a perfectly good female body already, and there are girls here who deserve that and haven't got it for whatever reason. I would love to be able to just trade off.
Exactly my point.. But we can all dream cant we?
Just today I had to run around the track for 12 minutes. I felt like passing out. I looked at the guys who got to run with their shirts off. The girls who got to run with the sports bras on. I can't do either, or I won't pass... it sucks. I have a tanktop under a t-shirt. Today, 2 tanks. One's stretchy and one's cotton to absorb some of the sweat. But I felt a lot of dread. I was like, "damn, I wish my body was more like that." And I felt even worse because I've never seen transguys with average chests... you can almost always tell something is off. :/
Freeeddooommm!!! is what I most likely will feel whenever can get rid of them. To be able to run, to have fun, to not be bound by these beasts that bounce with every move. To feel the cool air on skin outside of just my bedroom. Hell probably would loose some wieght because I wouldn't feel constrained by these big blobs. No more back aches from them either.
And yeh swapping would be nice but I tell you I would never torment a girl with these breasts. they can burn, they can die! No one should be tormented by them no one. These women who want large breasts have never lived with the pain they can cause you. To me they are insane to want larger than average.
sighs.
Can't wait, but probably will have to a long time. Can't even get T right now even if cleared for it. Though be nice if could. Thing is I have the eyebrows a woman would want, delicate without need of waxing or plucking, long eyelashes that do not need anything more than a thickener. But I hate them. They are blessing for my beautiful sister, but a curse to me.
Quote from: Aiden on August 28, 2008, 07:36:05 PM
Can't wait, but probably will have to a long time. Can't even get T right now even if cleared for it. Though be nice if could.
Thing is I have the eyebrows a woman would want, delicate without need of waxing or plucking, long eyelashes that do not need anything more than a thickener.
Why the lack of T-ness?
My eyebrows are bushier than my dad's OR my brother's. A little weird looking on me now, but in a few years maybe I'll be able to fully appreciate them.
One, difficulty with anger and depression. Two: Money
Quote from: Aiden on August 29, 2008, 01:37:31 AM
One, difficulty with anger and depression. Two: Money
Number two isn't really an obstacle. If there isn't a clinic in your area that'll give you T for free/cheap, there's a mail order pharmacy that gives a 10mL vial (on an 'average' dose you're looking at 5 months per vial) for $35, including shipping, needles, etc.
hmm not bad. so just obsticle 1 gotta deal with. Therapist won;t let me take it without dealing with that. though thing is been dealing with it for years... and still have trouble managing it
What state do you live in?
I'm not trying to talk you (or anyone) out of therapy. I'm not saying I know your personal situation any better than yourself or your therapist. But testosterone HELPS depression and anger issues, especially if they are related to your dysphoria (and when are they not?). If there's a trans clinic nearby, you will likely be able to start testosterone through either the informed consent or harm reduction methods, instead of WPATH. I was never someone who had anger 'issues,' but I was a yeller. Fights with ex partners were screaming matches, no question. Now I don't yell. Ever. Well, except at the idiot who damn near ran me over today... :P
PA, and their actually worried T will increase anger issues. I see my therapist at Persad, not sure where else would go lol. And I like the therapist I have.
One of the weirdest things that happened straight after my chest surgery was when I got home my stepson said "let's have a look then" and with all the years of being conditioned as female I was (for a few seconds) worried about taking my shirt off in front of him. I actually hesitated for a few seconds before I realised I can now do this.
One of the things that I really love now is being able to wear a muscle shirt (sleeveless T-shirt) around the house all the time with no binder. We went to Cornwall last week for a holiday and it was great to be able to take the rubbish out to the bins in just a muscle shirt and shorts. It's also nice to be able to feel the wind through my shirt now against my chest, when I was still binding I could never feel the draught (hope this makes sense).
I don't feel much difference at all regarding movement etc but I wasn't very big before the op anyway. I have heard from other guys who were large there before the op saying that after the op their breathing felt different because of the loss of weight over the rib area.
Yeh breathing a lot easier would be nice as well.
When I'm alone, I take my shirt off quite a bit. I also almost took my shirt off running at PE before I remembered that I'm not "allowed" to do that. I wish it wasn't a freaking law in this country.
Also, I will be really happy being able to wear thinner shirts, tank tops, and low cut stuff. I also will be able to breath deep without worrying if people can see my chest rising and falling enough to decide whether or not my chest is moobs, pecs, or boobs and pick boobs. I also won't close my chest as much, but opening it. My shoulders will rest back like they're supposed to.
Thing is I do tend to have bad posture partly due to the discomfort of these heavy things on my chest. Am trying to break the habit and straighten up but doesn't seem to help much either way reguarding hiding... and I need to quit looking down to see if they are showing to much. or tugging on my shirt when fel they are... brings attention to them
I was extremely large chested. Somewhere in the neighborhood of an E. As soon as I healed up from surgery, my posture improved greatly. Part if the slouching is the lack of self-confidence that comes with hauling breasts around, especially if they're large enough that binding is a near impossibility. And they weigh less than you'd think- I had approximately five pounds of tissue removed. I figured it would be more like, oh, 35. :laugh:
Posted on: August 29, 2008, 06:43:58 PM
Quote from: Aiden on August 29, 2008, 07:25:08 AM
PA, and their actually worried T will increase anger issues. I see my therapist at Persad, not sure where else would go lol. And I like the therapist I have.
Like I said to Lindsey, in PA the place to go is the Mazzoni Center. I'm not sure what their requirements are, but they'd be less stringent than going through a private therapist, finding a doctor, etc. You probably wouldn't need to quit seeing the therapist you do now and as long as you're of legal consenting age... well, you're set.
LOL I figured around 8-10 LOL dono. but either way right now my back does nothing but hurt. Binder doesn't seem to do my back much good. But I've gotten to point I can;t stand wearing a bra and it could be because of that as well. When not in binder I don't always force myself to put on a bra so no support.
Posted on: August 29, 2008, 09:48:46 PM
Where is the Mazzoni center though? I can't drive, I depend on public transportation. and Port Authority here sucks lol I never heard of it, don;t think it;s in the pittsburgh area. And what do you mean by private therapist? Shrugs. Besides my medical insurance actually covers my GID therapist at Persad.
You guys definitely have/had that harder than me. Mine aren't heavy at all. A pound or two each at the most. They're just A cup.
Mazzoni is in Philly. You might be able to access services through Metro Family Practice, 412-247-2310 901-B West Street, Pittsburgh, PA.
Posted on: August 29, 2008, 06:55:14 PM
Quote from: Elwood on August 29, 2008, 08:54:42 PM
You guys definitely have/had that harder than me. Mine aren't heavy at all. A pound or two each at the most. They're just A cup.
I bet they're less than that. i was at a post op of a buddy of mine's a few days back. His B cups ended up at about 2/3 of a pound together. :)
LOL. Metro is where I just arranged to get my PCP changed to. They couldn;t scedule my appointment till october though. I still have to transfer the medical records though. dang forgot to do that today :(
Quote from: Mister on August 29, 2008, 08:56:12 PM
Mazzoni is in Philly. You might be able to access services through Metro Family Practice, 412-247-2310 901-B West Street, Pittsburgh, PA.
Posted on: August 29, 2008, 06:55:14 PM
Quote from: Elwood on August 29, 2008, 08:54:42 PM
You guys definitely have/had that harder than me. Mine aren't heavy at all. A pound or two each at the most. They're just A cup.
I bet they're less than that. i was at a post op of a buddy of mine's a few days back. His B cups ended up at about 2/3 of a pound together. :)
Hmmm. Maybe. I guess I'm probably saying it's more because it feels like so much to me.
Wait, so the doc actually informs you how much they weighed? What does he do, chop em and then put em on a scale? :laugh:
Quote from: Nero on August 29, 2008, 09:01:35 PM
Wait, so the doc actually informs you how much they weighed? What does he do, chop em and then put em on a scale? :laugh:
No they generally weigh you before and after your surgery. Simple subtraction.
kidding.
The removed tissue is sent to a pathology lab. The lab weighs the tissue as part of the analysis.
In one word. Freedom. Once they were gone, it was as if they were never there. Not having to wear a shirt is great. I don't wear one in the summer when I am home, not going anywhere. The thing is after you realize how much more of a man you feel with those out of the way, for me the dysphoria returned and I felt half done. However, after my bottom surgery I felt complete. Of course.
Marco