last night I heard a recording of my own voice *shudders*. I thought that the voice I had been using to "try to sound like a guy" was a lot more convincing. It isn't. All it does is give me a sore throat. So I got to thinking about the whole picture from an outside perpective.
I had been really angry because I thought I passed a lot better and people kept "she"ing me. :eusa_wall:
I had been trying so hard....all it was was a bunch of hassle that got me nowhere.
I guess I'll just stop trying for awhile and be depressed (again) instead of consumed by rage. Depressed is easier to be around.
:icon_ashamed:
Did you call those places today?
Quote from: Mister on September 04, 2008, 05:59:34 PM
Did you call those places today?
no i didn't.... study took up too much time (I'm behind). Besides, depression is old hat, I've been depressed all my life :icon_lol:.
I'm not gonna do anything stupid, it would suck to die "a woman".
I don't try to deepen my voice. Instead, I tell one white lie:
"I had a delayed puberty."
It's actually the truth. What they don't know is that my FEMALE puberty was delayed. But that explanation explains why I don't have any of the external benefits of testosterone and why my voice sounds like a little boy's.
Quote from: Elwood on September 04, 2008, 07:23:08 PM
I don't try to deepen my voice. Instead, I tell one white lie:
"I had a delayed puberty."
It's actually the truth. What they don't know is that my FEMALE puberty was delayed. But that explanation explains why I don't have any of the external benefits of testosterone and why my voice sounds like a little boy's.
sweetie that's not gonna work, i'm almost 30. glad it works for you though.
I have the same problem with my voice, everything about me screams Boy but as soon as I speak ppl get confused. And even though I look fairly young, I am too old to be going through puberty!
Someone suggest singing along to really deep male songs, I tired that for a week or so and lost my voice! Lol! My partner couldn't stop laughing. :)
Starting T at the end of October (Hopefully) so I can't wait for my voice to change so I can start passing full time (without ppl thinking Im a mute, lol)
Quote from: alexkidd on September 04, 2008, 11:32:06 PM
I have the same problem with my voice, everything about me screams Boy but as soon as I speak ppl get confused. And even though I look fairly young, I am too old to be going through puberty!
Someone suggest singing along to really deep male songs, I tired that for a week or so and lost my voice! Lol! My partner couldn't stop laughing. :)
Starting T at the end of October (Hopefully) so I can't wait for my voice to change so I can start passing full time (without ppl thinking Im a mute, lol)
I have my fingers crossed for you.
I don't think I'll be able to deepen my voice without T. 2nd soprano and all...
I feel ya on this one. Trying to lower my voice just doesn't work, it always comes out sounding stupid. Whenever it DOES sound good I get skeptical and wonder if I'm fooling myself too.
My participation portion of my grade might suffer cause I don't speak unless spoken to by a professor or something, bad enough some classmates know I'm a "girl", worse when my voice confirms it.
Pass the T!
HEAR HEAR!
I know it's a lot easier said, than done, but it is possible to train yourself to speak in a low(er) bass voice. I started doing it at about 12-13, and by 14-15 it was my voice. Not sure if it just gradually deepened with puberty or not, but by the time I was 14 everytime I answered the phone EVERYONE thought I was my 16 yr old brother.
I started hormones just about 6 months ago, and the Dr thought I had been on T prior, because of how deep my voice was. It really hasn't gotten any deeper since I started T, and I was told it probably won't. Will power is a bad bitch!
Quote from: GQjoey on September 05, 2008, 04:15:40 AM
I know it's a lot easier said, than done, but it is possible to train yourself to speak in a low(er) bass voice. I started doing it at about 12-13, and by 14-15 it was my voice. Not sure if it just gradually deepened with puberty or not, but by the time I was 14 everytime I answered the phone EVERYONE thought I was my 16 yr old brother.
I started hormones just about 6 months ago, and the Dr thought I had been on T prior, because of how deep my voice was. It really hasn't gotten any deeper since I started T, and I was told it probably won't. Will power is a bad bitch!
I have the kind of voice most girls would *die* for, and quitting smoking only made it softer/higher. I tried that, and it didnt work. Jut gonna have to work on getting T. Til then I'm gonna keep my hair short but otherwise forget it i guess.
Quote from: GQjoey on September 05, 2008, 04:15:40 AM
I know it's a lot easier said, than done, but it is possible to train yourself to speak in a low(er) bass voice. I started doing it at about 12-13, and by 14-15 it was my voice. Not sure if it just gradually deepened with puberty or not, but by the time I was 14 everytime I answered the phone EVERYONE thought I was my 16 yr old brother.
I started hormones just about 6 months ago, and the Dr thought I had been on T prior, because of how deep my voice was. It really hasn't gotten any deeper since I started T, and I was told it probably won't. Will power is a bad bitch!
Actually the one FTM I ever met was younger than me (17) and he had a pretty convincing male voice pre-T. So I figured I'd try and do the same...I just don't know how effective it will be, maybe it varies by person? Alright, I'll give it another shot.
I've always had a fairly deep female voice; used to sing with the altos. My voice has dropped some on T and is noticeable to me and my therapist, who noticed it on the phone. Still, I get ma'am and she on the phone.
As far as passing visually, I think I'm confusing more people, but still seen more as female than male. Personally I think it's my arms that give me away. Maybe when I start wearing longer sleeves.
Jay, 6 weeks on T, 1 week post-hysto
Look up a video called 'booming your voice' or something similar on YouTube. i've heard mixed reviews, but it's a possibility.
Did you call yet?!?!?!?!?!?!?
My voice is a problem for me too. By the end of summer, I was gaining confedence with my voice, but now that school's started, it seems to be going all feminine again on me :icon_ashamed:.
Quote from: Mister on September 05, 2008, 01:20:01 PM
Look up a video called 'booming your voice' or something similar on YouTube. i've heard mixed reviews, but it's a possibility.
Did you call yet?!?!?!?!?!?!?
IIIIIIII DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID! I got the guts to do it! Just did! WOOOO! :eusa_dance:
ok ok so i left a message but STILL.
Posted on: September 05, 2008, 04:04:45 PM
Quote from: Adam on September 05, 2008, 02:13:29 PM
My voice is a problem for me too. By the end of summer, I was gaining confedence with my voice, but now that school's started, it seems to be going all feminine again on me :icon_ashamed:.
That sucks. :(
My voice has already been slightly deep but when I was sort of passing pre T and people would ask where my facial hair was or what not I would tell them the same thing I have
Quote"I had a delayed puberty."
And most people aren't doctors so they just went along with it.
Its true though as I have only actually started my purberty at age 20/21.
Jay - 3 1/2 months T
Quote from: sneakersjay on September 05, 2008, 07:51:39 AM...who noticed it on the phone. Still, I get ma'am and she on the phone.
I'm on the opposite side of the fence (MtF) but I can relate to the voice problem, especially on the phone. It's a bit complicated as my caller ID displays a female name, but my voice sounds male. Strangely enough I do seem to pass in public when speaking although I believe I have a long ways to go with the voice training -- I guess people hear what they see?
I'm curious as to how people here handle phone conversations when the person calls you ma'am (or sir as in my case).
Dora
I know it sucks , I hate my voice I get "she'd" on the phone all the time and it totally blows. I can't wait for T as I truly think it is the one and only thing that is going to make my voice finally "break", I do try speaking lower but I don't think it's very effective unfortunately. I do see myself as having a delayed puberty though although I am 28 because the way I feel my body was never allowed to go through the proper puberty for the gender I should be biologically and that needs to be corrected.
Quote from: Dora on September 06, 2008, 09:59:44 AM
Quote from: sneakersjay on September 05, 2008, 07:51:39 AM...who noticed it on the phone. Still, I get ma'am and she on the phone.
I'm on the opposite side of the fence (MtF) but I can relate to the voice problem, especially on the phone. It's a bit complicated as my caller ID displays a female name, but my voice sounds male. Strangely enough I do seem to pass in public when speaking although I believe I have a long ways to go with the voice training -- I guess people hear what they see?
I'm curious as to how people here handle phone conversations when the person calls you ma'am (or sir as in my case).
Dora
people estimate that 70-90% of communication is nonverbal, so yeah, that would be understandable.
When I was "trying to pass" I would say, "Uh, that's Mr." of course I'm not doing that again until i've been on T awhile.
Quote from: Dora on September 06, 2008, 09:59:44 AMI'm curious as to how people here handle phone conversations when the person calls you ma'am (or sir as in my case).
Dora
I haven't corrected them yet, I don't know why. Probably will just say, excuse me, that's SIR. Most of the time it's phone solicitors. The other times it's the doctor's offices calling to confirm. Since I'm still using my FEMALE NAME/F on my insurance card I guess that's expected.
Jay