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Poll
Question:  Where do you fall on the Kinsey Scale?
Option 1: 0 - Exclusively heterosexual with no homosexual votes: 5
Option 2: 1- Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual votes: 13
Option 3: 2- Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual votes: 15
Option 4: 3- Equally heterosexual and homosexual votes: 13
Option 5: 4- Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual votes: 7
Option 6: 5- Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual votes: 10
Option 7: 6- Exclusively homosexual votes: 12
Option 8: X- Asexual votes: 5
Title: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: tinkerbell on September 06, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
Let's review the scale again:

0 - Exclusively heterosexual experiences with no homosexual
      experiences

1 - Predominantly heterosexual experiences, only incidentally
      homosexual experiences

2 - Predominantly heterosexual experiences, but more than
      incidentally homosexual experiences

3 - Equally heterosexual and homosexual experiences

4 - Predominantly homosexual experiences, but more than incidentally heterosexual experiences

5 - Predominantly homosexual experiences, only incidentally heterosexual experiences

6 - Exclusively homosexual experiences


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Vote and/or post based on your gender identity, not your genetic sex!

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As a reference, this is the link to the Kinsey Institute (http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/research/ak-hhscale.html).

Okay, I will start.  I am a Zero = exclusively heterosexual with no homosexual experiences whatsoever!  :P


tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Elwood on September 06, 2008, 05:59:50 PM
Frack. I voted for homosexual experiences, and then realized you wanted me to vote based on my gender identity...

I've only been kissed by girls, so I guess that would be considered heterosexual... for me, at least. I really get chased by lesbians, though, who think of me as butch. It's hard to define...  :-\
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Nero on September 06, 2008, 06:01:06 PM
Technically a four or five, I've been with way more men than women.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: tinkerbell on September 06, 2008, 06:03:01 PM
Could you vote again if it isn't too much to ask?  I had to reset the votes because of Elwood!  ;D

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Elwood on September 06, 2008, 06:03:37 PM
Thanks. Sorry about that. ;D
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: tinkerbell on September 06, 2008, 06:08:05 PM
Quote from: Nero on September 06, 2008, 06:06:17 PM
yeah. voted 4. few experiences with girls but they weren't incidental.

That sounds about right!  :)

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Nero on September 06, 2008, 06:10:02 PM
changed to five. really haven't been with enough girls.

Posted on: September 06, 2008, 07:08:30 PM
lol i really need a feminine touch.  ;D
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Kimberly on September 06, 2008, 06:13:36 PM
Quote from: Tink on September 06, 2008, 06:15:40 PM
Okay, I have modified the poll, and now the users can change their votes!  :P

tink :icon_chick:
Yay for the Tinktress!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: tinkerbell on September 06, 2008, 06:15:40 PM
Okay, I have modified the poll, and now the users can change their votes!  :P

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Stealthgrrl on September 06, 2008, 06:28:56 PM
LOL, I'm the un-Tink, I voted 6.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 06, 2008, 06:33:09 PM
Kinsey's scale is so incomplete, though. It assumes static holistic sexuality, when in fact there are people who are inclined one way community-wise, another friendship-wise, another romantically, and another sexually.

Galarza talked about it and i've got the link if you want it.


*hopes Tink doesn't kick my butt*
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: deviousxen on September 06, 2008, 06:36:22 PM
Quote from: Nero on September 06, 2008, 06:10:02 PM
changed to five. really haven't been with enough girls.

Posted on: September 06, 2008, 07:08:30 PM
lol i really need a feminine touch.  ;D


Me too... -_- More like any in general.


5. I'm technically lesbian right now I suppose, but a few males have hit on me thinking I was a guy...
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: April221 on September 06, 2008, 07:34:33 PM
My preference is exclusively for men. Contact with other women was due to the frustration of not being biologically able to properly satisfy a man, so I experimented with women. Not being biologically correct as a woman had some truly disastrous issues result from the intense frustration, so I tried having contact with women. Sexual expression with another woman proved to be impossible because of extreme feelings of guilt, It just felt sooo wrong! Like, women shouldn't do this with other women. Yes, they do, and it's alright for them to do it, but not for me. It just doesn't feel right.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Natasha on September 07, 2008, 11:15:36 AM
i'm a three!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: RebeccaFog on September 07, 2008, 11:26:09 AM
Isn't this poll supposed to be closed?

I'm a 3, I guess. Fits with my cloudy sense of identity.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Yvonne on September 07, 2008, 12:28:26 PM
Zero.  I can't imagine myself being anything else than a zero!  :-*
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: MarySue on September 07, 2008, 04:59:15 PM
Tink, thanks again for the clarification that it's based on gender, not genetic sex.

Given that, I'm a six; I've only been interested in women. I've never even been propositioned by a man. Or if I was, I was too clueless to realize it.  ;)
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: tekla on September 07, 2008, 05:05:54 PM
There is so much left out of that, I must be a seven or an eight.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Adrien on September 07, 2008, 10:34:41 PM
i think the kinsey scale is too... binary for me.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Christo on September 07, 2008, 10:36:17 PM
I gotta say it again? :laugh: zero. no dudes 4 this dude :laugh: never been w/a dude!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 12:04:14 AM
Quote from: Adrien on September 07, 2008, 10:34:41 PM
i think the kinsey scale is too... binary for me.

hear hear!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Natasha on September 08, 2008, 02:42:36 AM
last time i checked, we were still living in a binary world/society!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 02:44:07 AM
Quote from: Natasha on September 08, 2008, 02:42:36 AM
last time i checked, we were still living in a binary world/society!

People born with one set of parts who need another, at least here in the United States where I am, challenge that.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Shana A on September 08, 2008, 10:26:50 AM
I'm bi/pan... I don't care what gender/s my partners are (or aren't), I'm attracted to the person, not the genitalia. On the Kinsey scale that would likely be considered a 3

Z
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: fae_reborn on September 08, 2008, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Stealthgrrl on September 06, 2008, 06:28:56 PM
LOL, I'm the un-Tink, I voted 6.  :laugh:

Same here, another 6.  Although I've been hit on by men, and once in a while think about being with a man (ok, so slight bi-tendencies to be honest), men gross me out.  I've had no experiences with men, only women.  I'm a femme lesbian.

Jenn
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Alyssa M. on September 08, 2008, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 12:04:14 AM
Quote from: Adrien on September 07, 2008, 10:34:41 PM
i think the kinsey scale is too... binary for me.

hear hear!

Hmmm... I counted seven options. That's as much of a "spectrum" as they allow for the visible electromagnetic spectrum in elementary school.

Though I suppose if you listed the options as 000, 001, 010, 011, 100, 101, and 110, then you could call it "binary," but that's not what we usually mean. :P

Would you like another axis in this spectrum to categorize age preference, or perhaps another axis for species?  >:D

Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 12:55:53 PM
Quote from: Alyssa M. on September 08, 2008, 11:45:39 AM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 12:04:14 AM
Quote from: Adrien on September 07, 2008, 10:34:41 PM
i think the kinsey scale is too... binary for me.

hear hear!

Hmmm... I counted seven options. That's as much of a "spectrum" as they allow for the visible electromagnetic spectrum in elementary school.

Though I suppose if you listed the options as 000, 001, 010, 011, 100, 101, and 110, then you could call it "binary," but that's not what we usually mean. :P

Would you like another axis in this spectrum to categorize age preference, or perhaps another axis for species?  >:D



I posted the Klein's grid and edited this for  :icon_blahblah:

as far as species, well, that's just illegal. ;)
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Hypatia on September 08, 2008, 01:14:26 PM
I haven't answered yet because I need to clarify exactly what this poll is measuring. Tink asks for a rating based only on experience. However, the link to the Kinsey Institute describes the scale as measuring
Quotesexual behavior, thoughts and feelings towards the same or opposite sex was not always consistent across time. Though the majority of men and women reported being exclusively heterosexual, and a percentage reported exclusively homosexual behavior and attractions, many individuals disclosed behaviors or thoughts somewhere in between.
(emphasis added)
QuoteThe scale ranges from 0-, as one would rate themselves if they identify as exclusively heterosexual with no experience with or desire for sexual activity with their same sex, to 6-, as one would rate themselves if they identify as exclusively homosexual with no experience with or desire for sexual activity with those of the opposite sex.
(emphasis added)

According to the KI, the scale is for measuring more than experience, it measures the total sexual orientation. Meaning it could take into account thoughts and feelings that have never been acted upon. Tink, if your feelings and actions have always been perfectly congruent, I can see why it might not have occurred to you that for a great many people they often diverge, which produces the gray areas that are the whole reason for devising the Kinsey scale in the first place.

Does flirting count as "experience"? Kissing on the lips? Masturbating to pictures? What is the definition of the "experience" being measured here anyway? The results could turn out differently depending on where the boundaries are drawn.

And if you take into account "feelings and desires" that were never acted upon in any way, it can turn out really different than if the measurement is limited to only experience.

Another question, this one specific to trans people: We base this on our gender identity, but what about what happened back when some of us were not consciously aware of our real gender identity? How it was understood at that time vs. how it came to be seen in the light of full gender identity awareness later? Or do we only count what happened when we were conscious of our real gender identity?

Sorry for going all Virgo on you, but it's just that if the poll doesn't clarify exactly what's being measured, then the results will not have much meaning.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 01:18:32 PM
Hypatia did you see the Klein's grid?
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Hypatia on September 08, 2008, 01:26:49 PM
Yes. I think the Klein grid would give a much fuller and meaningful account of sexual orientation.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 01:36:43 PM
Quote from: Hypatia on September 08, 2008, 01:26:49 PM
Yes. I think the Klein grid would give a much fuller and meaningful account of sexual orientation.

I first met the Klein Grid at a presentation during a conference on sexuality and gender... and I fell in love with it immediately.

Wait.. does that make me a Kleinsexual? :P
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Hypatia on September 08, 2008, 01:41:17 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 02:44:07 AM
Quote from: Natasha on September 08, 2008, 02:42:36 AM
last time i checked, we were still living in a binary world/society!

People born with one set of parts who need another, at least here in the United States where I am, challenge that.
I disagree. I fit neatly within one half of the binary: I am unequivocally a woman. I have no personal interest in challenging the binary, because it suits my needs well. If I were to challenge the binary, it would be an altruistic position for the sake of others who do not fit it. It would be the same for me as if a binary-conforming cisgender person were to challenge it. Demolition of the binary has no relevance for me personally.

Posted on: September 08, 2008, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 01:36:43 PMI first met the Klein Grid at a presentation during a conference on sexuality and gender... and I fell in love with it immediately.
Your point is well taken, but to take it up would require a separate poll. This one is about the Kinsey scale.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 01:43:30 PM
Quote from: Hypatia on September 08, 2008, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 02:44:07 AM
Quote from: Natasha on September 08, 2008, 02:42:36 AM
last time i checked, we were still living in a binary world/society!

People born with one set of parts who need another, at least here in the United States where I am, challenge that.
I disagree. I fit neatly within one half of the binary: I am unequivocally a woman. I have no personal interest in challenging the binary, because it suits my needs well. If I were to challenge the binary, it would be an altruistic position for the sake of others who do not fit it. It would be the same for me as if a binary-conforming cisgender person were to challenge it. Demolition of the binary has no relevance for me personally.

I agree. To quote Natasha, i'm not trans-anything--I was born with harry Benjamin Syndrome. I should have clarified that from the outside perspective, we would seem to challenge that.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Adrien on September 08, 2008, 05:25:10 PM
Wow, what a ruckus.
I'm pansexual, and the whole hetero-homo thing throws me off, and gets me thinking of strictly bisexual relations at 3.0.
The term bisexual really bothers me. Bi - two. There are far more than two genders, so if someone claims to be "bisexual," then I can only think they are uneducated and/or ignorant.
I think that if I were to put my attraction onto the scale, it wouldn't fit... it'd be like... a letter some place.
But if I had to? I'd probably land on the 3.0, because that only makes sense, correct? Doesn't matter who I'm in love with, or what gender/orientation they are. Blahblahblah.
Best to you all.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Nero on September 08, 2008, 05:46:30 PM
Quote from: Adrien on September 08, 2008, 05:25:10 PM
Wow, what a ruckus.
I'm pansexual, and the whole hetero-homo thing throws me off, and gets me thinking of strictly bisexual relations at 3.0.
The term bisexual really bothers me. Bi - two. There are far more than two genders, so if someone claims to be "bisexual," then I can only think they are uneducated and/or ignorant.
I think that if I were to put my attraction onto the scale, it wouldn't fit... it'd be like... a letter some place.
But if I had to? I'd probably land on the 3.0, because that only makes sense, correct? Doesn't matter who I'm in love with, or what gender/orientation they are. Blahblahblah.
Best to you all.

I detest the term 'pansexual'. I'm bi and to me that covers everything. I mean I don't know the internal gender of someone by looking at them. I'm attracted to males and females and the vast majority of humans resemble one or the other.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Stealthgrrl on September 08, 2008, 06:22:45 PM
*sits down next to Nero.*  :)
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 06:28:56 PM
Quote from: Hypatia on September 08, 2008, 01:41:17 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 02:44:07 AM
Quote from: Natasha on September 08, 2008, 02:42:36 AM
last time i checked, we were still living in a binary world/society!

People born with one set of parts who need another, at least here in the United States where I am, challenge that.
I disagree. I fit neatly within one half of the binary: I am unequivocally a woman. I have no personal interest in challenging the binary, because it suits my needs well. If I were to challenge the binary, it would be an altruistic position for the sake of others who do not fit it. It would be the same for me as if a binary-conforming cisgender person were to challenge it. Demolition of the binary has no relevance for me personally.

Posted on: September 08, 2008, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 01:36:43 PMI first met the Klein Grid at a presentation during a conference on sexuality and gender... and I fell in love with it immediately.
Your point is well taken, but to take it up would require a separate poll. This one is about the Kinsey scale.

Are you a librarian?

Posted on: September 08, 2008, 06:28:03 PM
Quote from: Adrien on September 08, 2008, 05:25:10 PM
Wow, what a ruckus.
I'm pansexual, and the whole hetero-homo thing throws me off, and gets me thinking of strictly bisexual relations at 3.0.
The term bisexual really bothers me. Bi - two. There are far more than two genders, so if someone claims to be "bisexual," then I can only think they are uneducated and/or ignorant.
I think that if I were to put my attraction onto the scale, it wouldn't fit... it'd be like... a letter some place.
But if I had to? I'd probably land on the 3.0, because that only makes sense, correct? Doesn't matter who I'm in love with, or what gender/orientation they are. Blahblahblah.
Best to you all.

agreed.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: tinkerbell on September 08, 2008, 08:26:11 PM
Geez!  ;D that's perfectly fine, Hypatia.  You can go Virgo on me anytime! But for the record "I" didn't ask anything based on experiences.  That is how the Kinsey scale was outlined here. (http://www.pfl->-bleeped-<-hoenix.org/education/kinsey_scale.html)  There is also a "points to ponder" part on that link which you may find helpful.  And incidentally kitty cats, I'm also aware that not everyone would fall into 0 or 6, but there are some of us that do! ;)

In regard to your question, the link I initially provided reads:

QuoteThere is no 'test.' The scale is purely a method of self-evaluation based on your individual experience. The scale ranges from 0-, as one would rate themselves if they identify as exclusively heterosexual with no experience with or desire for sexual activity with their same sex, to 6-, as one would rate themselves if they identify as exclusively homosexual with no experience with or desire for sexual activity with those of the opposite sex.

Hence, I imagine that everything is taken into account (i.e, kissing on the lips, feelings, desires, and the other stuff ;)) 

Now, concerning the "trans" question, well, Harry Bejamin created a similar scale ages ago.  Needless to say the information is ancient and contains archaic terms such as primary transsexual, true transsexual, real transsexual, and to be quite frank, I didn't want to get into all that since those definitions often cause chaos and drama here at Susan's.  Nonetheless, if anyone is interested, you can google it out "Sex and Gender Role Disorientation and Indecision"

I should reiterate though that the Harry Benjamin scale (above) is flawed, but at least it can shed some light on the questions that have been asked.

iFindMeHere: You are more than welcome to create a new poll for the Klein Grid if you wish since I also think that it would give us all a more thorough account of sexual orientation :)

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 08:34:38 PM
Quote from: Tink on September 08, 2008, 08:26:11 PM
iFindMeHere: You are more than welcome to create a new poll for the Klein Grid if you wish since I also think that it would be give a more thorough account of sexual orientation :)

tink :icon_chick:

hmmm, even tho i'm not a mod i can do that? Neat!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Hypatia on September 08, 2008, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 06:28:56 PM
Are you a librarian?
Yes. Why do you ask?
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Nero on September 08, 2008, 09:16:19 PM
Quote from: Hypatia on September 08, 2008, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 06:28:56 PM
Are you a librarian?
Yes. Why do you ask?

whoa. that's HOT!  :-*
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Osiris on September 08, 2008, 09:36:54 PM
4

Hooray for minoritiness!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 11:44:36 PM
Quote from: Tink on September 08, 2008, 08:26:11 PM

iFindMeHere: You are more than welcome to create a new poll for the Klein Grid if you wish since I also think that it would give us all a more thorough account of sexual orientation :)

tink :icon_chick:

Done :D

Posted on: September 08, 2008, 11:41:15 PM
Quote from: Hypatia on September 08, 2008, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 06:28:56 PM
Are you a librarian?
Yes. Why do you ask?

Because the way you speak makes me think of Library Science.

It's a compliment. :)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jephdraw.com%2Frandom%2Flibraryscience.png&hash=08a80900b68fcf93c7652c7f70182284a5055066)
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Hypatia on September 10, 2008, 12:22:36 AM
LOL, thanks for the compliments, guys. :) You must be sapiosexual! (that's my real orientation if there ever was one)
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 10, 2008, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: Hypatia on September 10, 2008, 12:22:36 AM
LOL, thanks for the compliments, guys. :) You must be sapiosexual! (that's my real orientation if there ever was one)

Specifically a sapiosexual Geekphile, thank you. :)
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Hypatia on September 10, 2008, 01:07:18 AM
The number I'd assign myself is about 5.5. I indicated 5 on the poll rather than 6, mainly because I'm skeptical about 100% absolute positions. My number used to be down around 4, but I've brought it up lately.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Natasha on September 13, 2008, 01:17:59 AM
same thing with the other crappy test.  i'm bisexual.  i'm attracted to males and females equally!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 13, 2008, 01:19:48 AM
HEY HEY HEY Klein's test is not crappy.!!!! :P
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Natasha on September 13, 2008, 01:22:18 AM
is that "your opinion", if it is is, good for you!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 13, 2008, 01:24:20 AM
Quote from: Natasha on September 13, 2008, 01:22:18 AM
is that "your opinion", if it is is, good for you!

alllllllllllllllllrrrighty then.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: cindybc on September 13, 2008, 03:12:41 AM
I have never felt right in my own skin since I was a little kid. I just wasted to many years in relationships that ended up being detrimental to my health, and for many years I lived by myself, not really wanting anyone else for a partner until I met my mate Wing Walker 6years ago. From then on I knew that I would not be looking for anyone else. This late in my life and the relationship I have with Wing Walker was and still is the better of any other I have ever had before in my life. Should anything happen to Wing Walker I don't believe I would want to continue to live by myself.

So I guess that qualifies me as homosexual since we are both female. #6 on the list.

Cindy
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 13, 2008, 03:47:57 AM
Quote from: cindybc on September 13, 2008, 03:12:41 AM
I have never felt right in my own skin since I was a little kid. I just wasted to many years in relationships that ended up being detrimental to my health, and for many years I lived by myself, not really wanting anyone else for a partner until I met my mate Wing Walker 6years ago. From then on I knew that I would not be looking for anyone else. This late in my life and the relationship I have with Wing Walker was and still is the better of any other I have ever had before in my life. Should anything happen to Wing Walker I don't believe I would want to continue to live by myself.

So I guess that qualifies me as homosexual since we are both female. #6 on the list.

Cindy


AWWWW! romantical!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: tinkerbell on September 13, 2008, 02:00:15 PM
Quote from: Natasha on September 13, 2008, 01:17:59 AM
same thing with the other crappy test.  i'm bisexual.  i'm attracted to males and females equally!

What are you calling crappy? The HBSOC Klein's scale?  ;)  People will always buy their way around it, you know? Circumvent the system?   ;) >:D

*giggles devilishly*

tink :icon_chick:


Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Aiden on September 13, 2008, 09:33:48 PM
I picked 5 though really I'm not that strongly atracted to anyone in the physical means.  Might be asexual leaning towards other guys.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Lutin on September 14, 2008, 04:12:13 AM
5, too.

QuoteSpecifically a sapiosexual Geekphile, thank you. 
Isn't it sad, they have an official term for people who derive pleasure from urine and urination (urophilia/urophile), but not for "Geekphiles"... *Obviously* pee is more attractive than intelligence. ::)
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Butterfly on September 14, 2008, 05:07:19 AM
Quote from: Tink on September 06, 2008, 05:54:10 PM
I am a Zero = exclusively heterosexual with no homosexual experiences whatsoever! 

tink :icon_chick:

So am I. 
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 14, 2008, 11:58:42 AM
Quote from: Lutin on September 14, 2008, 04:12:13 AM
5, too.

QuoteSpecifically a sapiosexual Geekphile, thank you. 
Isn't it sad, they have an official term for people who derive pleasure from urine and urination (urophilia/urophile), but not for "Geekphiles"... *Obviously* pee is more attractive than intelligence. ::)

Like the lady said, "Sapiosexual" is attracted to intelligence. Geekphile means I have a further specification - for me, a person's not gonna be attractive unless they know about some combination of


  • computers
  • comic books
  • video or other games
  • science
  • math
  • history

might be more i cant think of, it's early.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Aiden on September 14, 2008, 12:47:02 PM
I'm more attracted to personality
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Lutin on September 15, 2008, 02:27:34 AM
Ah, see I looked up "sapiosexual" in my printed dictionary and it didn't have anything, and completely forgot that *the Internet* might have a definition...

i can to haz sum intelijintses plz?

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Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Khukuri on September 18, 2008, 03:09:49 PM
Trying to determine my own hetero-homo rating is proving to be quite difficult. I'm not exclusively hetero or homo, and I've been accross the scale and back again. Even though I am female, I really dislike my attraction to males. Because I am female, I really dislike my attraction to females too. In recent years I have spent more time with men because it was far more socially accepted than being with women. Such relations have left much to be desired and feel wrong or backwards somehow. Relations with women feel more right, but lacking. Essentially I feel that a male/female relationship is what I want, but somehow I'm not happy with my own circumstances.

I hope this makes sense, because it doesn't to me.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Hypatia on September 18, 2008, 05:37:20 PM
I'm happily lesbian.
Heteronormativity can go f@#% itself for all I care. Gay pride for me. Dykes rule.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: tinkerbell on September 18, 2008, 07:55:57 PM
You see Hypatia, I know many people who would say the same thing about homosexuality and/or bisexuality, but that is an entirely different topic with a different flavor (and not what was intended on this particular thread)  ;)!
Personally, I could care less who or what people sleep with, for it doesn't affect me in any possible way.  I know what I like, and I am sure all of you know what you like as well.  That should be the only thing that matters; the rest is just....well... full of drama and not worth burning your liver over....  ;)

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Hypatia on September 18, 2008, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: Tink on September 18, 2008, 07:55:57 PM
You see Hypatia, I know many people who would say the same thing about homosexuality and/or bisexuality
You may have misread my words. I said nothing about heterosexuality. Look again before you get mad at me.

I was responding to the heteronormativity in Khukuri's statement
QuoteBecause I am female, I really dislike my attraction to females too. In recent years I have spent more time with men because it was far more socially accepted than being with women.
Her dating choices were constrained by what she felt was "far more socially accepted." She dated men even though she's attracted to women, because of the social pressure to not be gay. In other words, heteronormativity-- the default privileging of heterosexuality and the marginalization of homosexuality. This is what I'm rejecting. Not your or anyone's orientation. Just the fact that your orientation is automatically given superiority over mine. When straights are barred from marrying the people they love, when straights are fired from jobs for being hetero, when straights are beaten up and murdered for loving the opposite sex, when the laws of the state accord gay couples more rights than straight ones, then get back to me about privilege.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: tinkerbell on September 19, 2008, 07:51:26 PM
Ahhhh....in the absence of Khukuri's quote within your post (post#60), I had indeed misread what you said, Hypatia.  My apologies and thank you for the clarification!

tink :icon_chick:

P.S.  I wasn't mad at you though ;)
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: cindybc on September 19, 2008, 09:16:14 PM
"Hee, hee" hee." I knew you weren't even angry and that had nothing to do with sensitivities. After observing people for a while one gets a feeling for it. :) I do beleive though that you have the capability to express your feelings  ;D Well I don't know why I wrote this for unless I got dang awful lonely white the servers were down.

Have a wonderful day to you Tink and everyone else.

Grrrr a typo can also get one in a lot of trouble

Cindy
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: trbrink on September 19, 2008, 10:30:42 PM
I would have to say that I rate a 5 based on past experiences. However, I'm currently Asexual/"confused", so I may be eventually sliding down the scale. I don't know how this can happen as I felt strongly rooted in my sexual identity when I started transition, however, after more than a year on hormones, I seem to involuntarily be having "other" feelings that my brain doesn't fully understand/accept.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Blanche on September 20, 2008, 04:27:58 AM
I'm asexual.  No option for me.  Argg, where do I fall? I'm not attracted to male or female peeps!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: NicholeW. on September 20, 2008, 07:49:23 AM
Centrally bi-sexual. At least according to what research has been done not an unusual option for women.

One bases her sexuality on her love and affection for her partner. No more, no less, although, not all are that way women also have preferences!! And any is valid and fine.  (Before someone gets mad at me!! :laugh: )

Nichole
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Ciarquin on September 20, 2008, 02:53:39 PM
I think I've seen a version of this scale which has an X for asexual. Not quite sure though.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: tinkerbell on September 20, 2008, 04:06:27 PM
Quote from: Blanche on September 20, 2008, 04:27:58 AM
I'm asexual.  No option for me.  Argg, where do I fall? I'm not attracted to male or female peeps!

Quote from: Ciarquin on September 20, 2008, 02:53:39 PM
I think I've seen a version of this scale which has an X for asexual. Not quite sure though.

Ciarquin is correct, Blanche.  And according to the wikipedia:

Quote from: WikipediaThe Kinsey scale attempts to describe a person's sexual history or episodes of their sexual activity at a given time. It uses a scale from 0, meaning exclusively heterosexual, to 6, meaning exclusively homosexual. In the Kinsey Reports, an additional grade was used for asexuality. It was first published in Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) by Alfred Kinsey, Wardell Pomeroy and others, and was also prominent in the complementary work Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953).

Consequently, I have added an extra option to the poll.  X= asexual. :)

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Ciarquin on September 20, 2008, 04:19:22 PM
Quote from: Tink on September 20, 2008, 04:06:27 PM
Consequently, I have added an extra option to the poll.  X= asexual. :)

tink :icon_chick:
Thanks Tink.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Shion on September 24, 2008, 11:17:52 AM
I'm probably a 3. No preference. From one end to the other end and everything in between, I like who I like.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Fer on September 24, 2008, 12:40:19 PM
Quote from: Ciarquin on September 20, 2008, 04:19:22 PM
Quote from: Tink on September 20, 2008, 04:06:27 PM
Consequently, I have added an extra option to the poll.  X= asexual. :)

tink :icon_chick:
Thanks Tink.

I'm asexual & the X works fine for me too!
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Aiden on September 24, 2008, 08:14:23 PM
thanks :D  changed to X
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: umop ap!sdn on September 25, 2008, 01:57:42 AM
I guess I'd be somewhere between 5 and 6.... my experience has been exclusively homosexual, and I don't really want to change that fact, but I've had straight fantasies. So I'm not completely sure how to vote.
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 25, 2008, 02:06:54 AM
Klein's grid might help you then: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,43123.msg279423.html#msg279423 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,43123.msg279423.html#msg279423)
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: Jay on September 25, 2008, 04:40:21 AM
Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual

Ive kissed a guy Im not really sure if this counts...
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 25, 2008, 09:23:18 AM
Quote from: Jay on September 25, 2008, 04:40:21 AM
Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual

Ive kissed a guy Im not really sure if this counts...

Depends, did you like it?
Title: Re: Kinsey's Heterosexual-Homosexual Rating Scale
Post by: ZoeySD on September 30, 2008, 01:37:52 AM
Put a 2, but not sure how that will change as I begin to transition more.  I like both sexes but it's really confusing.  I'm attracted to female appearances but am attracted to male gentility.  So I dont know how the wires in my head get so criss-crossed?! hehe