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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Topic started by: icontact on September 08, 2008, 08:59:14 PM

Poll
Question: What would you be?
Option 1: The same. votes: 11
Option 2: Cisgender: The same body you were born with, matching brain. votes: 1
Option 3: Cisgender: A body that matched your brain. votes: 50
Option 4: Other? votes: 5
Title: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: icontact on September 08, 2008, 08:59:14 PM
In case the cisgender options didn't make sense:

Cisgender: The same body you were born with, matching brain.
----------------For example, for me, a FtM, to be a cisgender girl.

Cisgender: A body that matched your brain.
----------------For example, for me, a FtM, to be a cisgender guy.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: tinkerbell on September 08, 2008, 09:04:28 PM
My life experiences have made me who I am today.  Yes, it has been a very painful journey, but I don't think I could be here today, doing what I am doing, feeling what I am feeling, having the same outlook I currently have at life in general if I had been born with the correct anatomy; hence I chose "The Same".

tink :icon_chick:
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Nero on September 08, 2008, 09:06:39 PM
If I'd had a choice at conception, I'dve been XY with my current brain. But knowing what I know now, I dunno. I wouldn't trade me with all that makes me what I am for anything. And I wouldn't have all that if I hadn't been born this way.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Janet_Girl on September 08, 2008, 09:44:26 PM
Even with all the junk that has happened in my life, I still wouldn't have really change anything.  They make me, me.  I don't know who I would be if I was born female.

Janet
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: sarahb on September 08, 2008, 09:50:01 PM
I would have to agree with the others on this one. Although life would have been easier as far as gender goes, the experiences that have shaped me and built the person I am today would be different. I am rather fond of having the first-hand experience of life's many differences that make humanity unique. I chose "The Same."
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Nicky on September 08, 2008, 10:05:10 PM
I said other cause I'm unsure what I would be. I'm not cisgendered and am hazy about what my ideal body would look like. Perhaps I would go for intersexed, a body to match my brain.

Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Elwood on September 08, 2008, 10:59:56 PM
Cisguy, please.

Why?
Women are great, okay. And I don't have a problem with them at all. But I'd want to be a guy because, well, that's the essence of who I am. If I was a cisgirl, I wouldn't be me anymore. I'd be someone else.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Carol55 on September 08, 2008, 11:19:56 PM
I know that the experiences I've had made me who I am today, but I'm not all that happy with that.  I observed all the experiences I wished I'd had, but they were happening to someone else.  I might be different today if my body had been female at birth.  But since I believe I've been thinking female since I was nine or ten, maybe I wouldn't have been that much different.  I'd have the same interests and beliefs about the world.  Many of those are gender  neutral.  Some are not and I could have revealed and acted on them, instead of keeping secrets.

The whole point of what I'm doing is to make my body match my brain.  Why wouldn't I wish it had been that way all along?
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: sneakersjay on September 09, 2008, 05:23:39 AM
If I had a choice I'd have been born male, period.  Overall I don't think my life would have been much different; I'd probably have married a girl and had kids, but they wouldn't be the kids I have now.  So my life probably would have been very similar if I'd been born male.

But since I can't change things, I'm OK with what I have and who I am.  And I think it's cool, too, that I can live half my life as a woman and the other half as a man.  Not many can say that.  ;D

Jay
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Tamara on September 09, 2008, 05:26:21 AM
I would much prefer to be a cisgender female, it would be loads easier, I wouldn't have to worry about seeing specialists or getting hormones or srs or transition and passing etc. I wouldn't have to put up with all the crap from testosterone in my body.

However I would prefer to be as I am than as a cisgender male, I wouldn't like to have a different brain because then I wouldn't be me I would be someone comletely different, I know it would be easier but no thanks.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Nero on September 09, 2008, 05:38:20 AM
Quote from: sneakersjay on September 09, 2008, 05:23:39 AMAnd I think it's cool, too, that I can live half my life as a woman and the other half as a man.  Not many can say that.  ;D

Jay

It IS cool, ain't it? And I can't say I didn't have a blast as a woman even through the hardships because I did. Really is awesome to get to basically live two lives.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Northern Jane on September 09, 2008, 12:49:15 PM
Without a moment's hesitation: Cisgender: A body that matched

I have a pretty good idea how life would have gone and I would have been happy with it. I have done this road once and that is more than enough.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Melissa on September 09, 2008, 01:04:41 PM
For me, I would have rather been cisgendered, but I really don't care which of the 2 cisgendered options I ended up with.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Constance on September 09, 2008, 01:09:19 PM
QuoteCisgender: A body that matched your brain.
Specifically:

- breasts & a penis
- softer jawline
- broader hips
- no body/facial hair
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Melissa on September 09, 2008, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on September 09, 2008, 01:09:19 PM
QuoteCisgender: A body that matched your brain.
Specifically:

- breasts & a penis
- softer jawline
- broader hips
- no body/facial hair


In other words, with Klinefelters Syndrome.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Jenni on September 09, 2008, 01:26:38 PM
Deffinatly a Cisgirl. oh and can I have my memory wiped of any memory of being in a male body?  That would be nice too. 
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Sarah Louise on September 09, 2008, 01:44:18 PM
There is nothing that has happened in my current life that I would miss.  I would rather have been born a girl and grown up naturally and have the memories I would have had as a female.

Sarah L.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Adam on September 09, 2008, 01:58:55 PM
I'd choose being a cisguy, because that's just the way I fell I should have been.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Constance on September 09, 2008, 02:00:19 PM
Quote from: Melissa on September 09, 2008, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: Shades O'Grey on September 09, 2008, 01:09:19 PM
QuoteCisgender: A body that matched your brain.
Specifically:

- breasts & a penis
- softer jawline
- broader hips
- no body/facial hair


In other words, with Klinefelters Syndrome.
I guess so. Just without the hypogonadal and neurological problems.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Rachel on September 09, 2008, 02:06:07 PM
I have gained many great friends that I wouldn't have if I had been born a female, and definitely wouldn't want to be a guy, gross.  I am glad for my experiences, as bad they may or may not be sometimes, they created the person I am to this day.  So I'm saying stay the same as I am now if I had a choice, cause I become who I am because of it.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: icontact on September 09, 2008, 06:33:33 PM
Hm. I'd be really interested in hearing an answer from a bigender or two-spirit/system. Anyone know if Wesley/Lexi, Mia/Marq, or other systems use Susan's?
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Nero on September 09, 2008, 06:40:39 PM
Quote from: freespeechz on September 09, 2008, 06:33:33 PM
Hm. I'd be really interested in hearing an answer from a bigender or two-spirit/system. Anyone know if Wesley/Lexi, Mia/Marq, or other systems use Susan's?

They don't seem to be around anymore.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Victoria L. on September 10, 2008, 05:12:30 PM
I'd take being a cisgendered female (matching my mind.) in no time.

Although I've come to accept myself as transgendered, it doesn't mean that if I had the CHOICE to become a cisgendered female like that I wouldn't take it. I mean, it'd save me all of the trouble of coming out, and yeah, life would be a lot easier... and I'd be 100% female. Too bad that's not a possibility. T_T
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Ian on September 29, 2008, 05:12:37 PM
I'd rather be cisgendered. I don't care which way. If I was a cisgender male that would be awesome, but if I was a cisgender female I wouldn't care about losing my current personality because...it never would have existed. So much of my thought pattern and behavior is determined by my discomfort with my body.

I guess I wouldn't mind being cisgender female because, if I was one, then I wouldn't mind being female. The idea is repulsive to me in my actual state of course.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Pica Pica on September 29, 2008, 05:22:45 PM
I would like to live this life with the male body I've got... then live it again as a woman body, then compare experiences at the end and see which one i preferred.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Arch on September 29, 2008, 05:37:16 PM
Impossible for me to answer easily. As a little kid, I would have chosen cisgender male, no question. I was a complete tomboy, and I didn't fully understand or quite believe that I was going to turn into a real girl.

As a teenager, I likely would have chosen cisgender female, just because of my female body and because I was so down on myself that I thought I was a sicko perv who probably didn't deserve to live. Despite my weird fantasy life, which I kept carefully compartmentalized from everything else, I thought at that time that I was a girl. And it would have been wonderful to feel comfortable with that sex and gender.

However, I've never been fully comfortable with my sex and gender.

If you ask me now? I don't think I could have done anything other than what I'm doing, but it would have been so great to grow up and live life without all of this turmoil and strife. Yet I am what I am. So I guess my fully informed response would be that I wouldn't change anything. But that still isn't a fully satisfactory answer.

Ask me again in a year.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: kephalopod on September 29, 2008, 08:00:19 PM
I'm not sure it's possible for me to give a meaningful answer. My original impulse was to say cisguy (that is, body to match the brain), but if I'd been born cisgendered, my experiences would have made me a different person.

I think I would have had it easier had I been cisgendered male, but I also think that the experiences I've had and the self-examination I've had to do have gone a long way towards shaping my character and personality into something I'm proud of.

I might be happier as a cisguy, but I also might be shallower.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Luc on September 29, 2008, 08:49:03 PM
I really don't care which, but I would have been very happy to have been born into a body that was commensurate with my brain. In this world, I must say it would be easier to be born male, but that's not why I'm ftm, obviously. I would have been happy being a girl if I had been born that way... instead, however, I was born a guy in a girl's body. Forget life experience from being trans. People have enough to deal with in this life without having to deal with social ostracism and absolute unhappiness with their own bodies. Alas, I have no choice. I'm doing the best I can with what I have.

SD
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Christo on September 30, 2008, 01:20:57 AM
bio dude. no t shots. no meta. no phallo. no hysto. no nothin. just me & my dudes body  :-\
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Kimberly on September 30, 2008, 04:40:01 AM
Right here right now I am simply a girl, something which is painfully obvious in a number of ways. Getting the body in line would be very welcome indeed.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Yochanan on September 30, 2008, 09:32:55 AM
Biological male. My life would have been radically different, but at this point I'd pretty much choose any life other than the one I got. I'm convinced that living female through most of it just made it that much worse.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Gracie Faise on October 01, 2008, 05:31:55 PM
Though I greatly dislike my birth defect, so much of the lessons i learned in life and my level of consciousness and self-awareness was gained because of my transsexualism If it was all taken away, what will become of me? A shell of who I am now? Would I be as deep and connected to the world? Would I still be as smart and aware?

I doubt it.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: tekla on October 01, 2008, 05:37:35 PM
Wow Gracie, I really liked that.  So true.

Besides, if I had a choice I'd been born as a Kennedy Girl, or something like that.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Maebh on October 01, 2008, 06:06:17 PM
As I have said before, if today I could be given a pill that made my brain match my genetic body (male) I wouldn't take it. May be when I was younger, scared, ignorant and confused I would have gone for being cisgender either male of female but now I am happy and even proud of who I am. It wasn't easy but being transgendered made the journey much more interesting, chalenging and exciting. I have learned a lot about general assumptions but mostly about accepting and even celebrating variety in all aspects of life.
Without having to face so many questions I could easily have ended up as either a bored old bitch or a boring old fart.  :laugh:
ET VIVE LA DIFFERENCE!
LLL&R
Maebh
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Sarah Dreams on October 02, 2008, 04:38:29 PM
I definitely would want to be cisgender female.

Make me a princess
  All giddy inside
Make me a temptress
  With nothing to hide.

Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Sephirah on October 02, 2008, 04:47:11 PM
If I had a choice I would choose to be able to cycle through all the other options: cisgender male, cisgender female, transgender male and androgyne... for one week each, to get a brief understanding of the feelings and thought patterns associated with each one. Then I would return to being myself, get on with my life, and hopefully put the knowledge and experiences gained to good use in trying to help others and trying to find my place in the world. :)
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Alyssa M. on October 02, 2008, 05:15:23 PM
I'm not with Pangloss.

Life has been good to me, at least good enough; I won't complain. But neither will I pretend that it couldn't have been far, far better.
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: CC on October 02, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
I would definately vote to have the body that matched my brain. I have always been a girl and I have suffered severe abuse and torment as a boy with a girl's brain. So if I could turn it back I would have loved to been called to dinner like "CC, it's time to come to dinner honey."
Title: Re: What if you'd had a choice?
Post by: Dennis on October 02, 2008, 10:12:35 PM
Quote from: Alyssa M. on October 02, 2008, 05:15:23 PM
I'm not with Pangloss.

Life has been good to me, at least good enough; I won't complain. But neither will I pretend that it couldn't have been far, far better.

Me three. Cis guy first. Trans guy second. There is no third choice for me. I just can't imagine life not being a guy, even though I had to pretend to live it for so long. If I'd known back then how the cost/benefit of transition worked out so heavily weighted on the side I did, I'd have done it earlier (if I'd known it was possible - I only ever heard of FtM's 8 years before I transitioned).

But life has been good now that I know who I am, and I wouldn't send that gift back for anything except a chance to live it over as a cis guy.

Dennis