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Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 10:48:40 PM

Title: T and NON Steroid Mass Adders
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 08, 2008, 10:48:40 PM
Anyone know anything good bad inbetween?
Title: Re: T and NON Steroid Mass Adders
Post by: Elwood on September 08, 2008, 10:57:26 PM
Want to add mass?

Do it the right way. The honest way. Be a man and earn it.

I'm sick of guys trying to find a cheap way out with supplements and Bowflex.
Title: Re: T and NON Steroid Mass Adders
Post by: Elwood on September 08, 2008, 11:52:58 PM
Which is why you want to cheat.

Go ahead. Hold your grudge. Banish me if you have to. That won't change what I believe, and I believe taking supplements is cheating.

This is coming from a very weak man who could use the same excuse you're using.

I find that real health comes from real food, and I say that from experience. My body would not retain food, so I tried to enhance my diet with supplements. It only made things harder to recover when I stopped using the supplements. I then enforced a proper diet and found it very rewarding. I am saying this for the other young men on this site; I would not recommend supplements as a means of gaining mass.

If you want to do it, go right on ahead, but I won't let anyone sit here and preach how great the unhealthy practice is.
Title: Re: T and NON Steroid Mass Adders
Post by: Mister on September 09, 2008, 01:59:34 AM
I'm a near cripple so, like you, I need all the help I can get.  I need to maximize my workouts even though my body does not allow for consistency.  Some days I can work out for hours, others I can handle about five minutes.  Having a few sessions with a personal trainer was AWESOME- I had someone who showed me how many gym exercises can be done at home or sitting in my chair at work.  I also found that supplements weren't as helpful as regular stuff that's plain old good for you- good food, regular sleep, yoga & bodywork, etc. 
Title: Re: T and NON Steroid Mass Adders
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 09, 2008, 02:17:42 AM
Quote from: Mister on September 09, 2008, 01:59:34 AM
I'm a near cripple so, like you, I need all the help I can get.  I need to maximize my workouts even though my body does not allow for consistency.  Some days I can work out for hours, others I can handle about five minutes.  Having a few sessions with a personal trainer was AWESOME- I had someone who showed me how many gym exercises can be done at home or sitting in my chair at work.  I also found that supplements weren't as helpful as regular stuff that's plain old good for you- good food, regular sleep, yoga & bodywork, etc. 

So I can probably skip the nasty things? :D
Title: Re: T and NON Steroid Mass Adders
Post by: Mister on September 09, 2008, 02:34:30 AM
I'd say that for the most part, don't spend your cash on supplements and instead spend it on good food.  Stop eating sugars (esp. high fructose corn syrup) and you'll see a big increase.  Get rid of all the fried crap, start munching on carrots instead of potato chips...   If all that is too much, start making small changes- get rid of soda.  switch to decaf.  downgrade to 1% milk. 

Oh, and I did this online program for pushups...  (google 'hundred pushups')  I did the initial program and kept increasing it incrementally.  Because of my semi-crippledom, it took me nearly 12 weeks instead of the website's six, but after completing it and using their formula to increase strength, i'm up to 560 consecutive pushups.
Title: Re: T and NON Steroid Mass Adders
Post by: iFindMeHere on September 09, 2008, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: Mister on September 09, 2008, 02:34:30 AM
I'd say that for the most part, don't spend your cash on supplements and instead spend it on good food.  Stop eating sugars (esp. high fructose corn syrup) and you'll see a big increase.  Get rid of all the fried crap, start munching on carrots instead of potato chips...   If all that is too much, start making small changes- get rid of soda.  switch to decaf.  downgrade to 1% milk. 

Oh, and I did this online program for pushups...  (google 'hundred pushups')  I did the initial program and kept increasing it incrementally.  Because of my semi-crippledom, it took me nearly 12 weeks instead of the website's six, but after completing it and using their formula to increase strength, i'm up to 560 consecutive pushups.

I came across and bookmarked that recently, was gonna analyze it later. I could do 12 weeks! Did you do daily, every other, what?

And yeah i pretty much drink decaf iced tea and coffee and soymilk. I don't really even like pop! Fried food... not so much into either. unless its tempura i make myself OM NOM NOM but that'll be veggies. No Milk, I'm Vegan :P Thats the other reason I was hoping there would be another way to do things since Mass Adders are either a) milkbased b) horribly expensive or c) all of the above.

I need to work on the sugar thing and REALLY HOPE T decreases that (ve gotten mixed reports)
Title: Re: T and NON Steroid Mass Adders
Post by: Elwood on September 09, 2008, 05:14:01 PM
Quote from: Mister on September 09, 2008, 02:34:30 AMI'd say that for the most part, don't spend your cash on supplements and instead spend it on good food.
What I said in the first place, thank you.
Title: Re: T and NON Steroid Mass Adders
Post by: Mister on September 10, 2008, 12:52:04 AM
Quote from: iFindMeHere on September 09, 2008, 02:43:30 PM
Quote from: Mister on September 09, 2008, 02:34:30 AM
I'd say that for the most part, don't spend your cash on supplements and instead spend it on good food.  Stop eating sugars (esp. high fructose corn syrup) and you'll see a big increase.  Get rid of all the fried crap, start munching on carrots instead of potato chips...   If all that is too much, start making small changes- get rid of soda.  switch to decaf.  downgrade to 1% milk. 

Oh, and I did this online program for pushups...  (google 'hundred pushups')  I did the initial program and kept increasing it incrementally.  Because of my semi-crippledom, it took me nearly 12 weeks instead of the website's six, but after completing it and using their formula to increase strength, i'm up to 560 consecutive pushups.

I came across and bookmarked that recently, was gonna analyze it later. I could do 12 weeks! Did you do daily, every other, what?

And yeah i pretty much drink decaf iced tea and coffee and soymilk. I don't really even like pop! Fried food... not so much into either. unless its tempura i make myself OM NOM NOM but that'll be veggies. No Milk, I'm Vegan :P Thats the other reason I was hoping there would be another way to do things since Mass Adders are either a) milkbased b) horribly expensive or c) all of the above.

I need to work on the sugar thing and REALLY HOPE T decreases that (ve gotten mixed reports)

I tried to do every other day.  Sometimes it was every third or fourth day, I just didn't push it.