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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Female to male transsexual talk (FTM) => Topic started by: GQjoey on November 19, 2008, 10:41:19 PM

Title: Gender marker on license
Post by: GQjoey on November 19, 2008, 10:41:19 PM
I have the paperwork to change the dreaded F to a M, just wondering if I need to change it through the Social Security office first, or can I just go straight to the DMV with it? My name was changed years ago, through the ss office too, just don't want to waste time going straight to the DMV if I need to hit the ss office first. I'm in California, if it makes a difference..THanks.
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: icontact on November 19, 2008, 11:32:46 PM
I heard just DMV works, I swear I read it on some website somewhere, but I can't remember the website, and could be mistaken so don't go by my word alone.
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: iFindMeHere on November 20, 2008, 12:39:21 AM
GRATS MAN
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: Mister on November 20, 2008, 12:59:07 AM
Quote from: GQjoey on November 19, 2008, 10:41:19 PM
I have the paperwork to change the dreaded F to a M, just wondering if I need to change it through the Social Security office first, or can I just go straight to the DMV with it? My name was changed years ago, through the ss office too, just don't want to waste time going straight to the DMV if I need to hit the ss office first. I'm in California, if it makes a difference..THanks.

What paperwork do you have? DL-328 or court order?

If court order- go to SS first, then DMV.

If DL-328- go to DMV ONLY.  SS requires court order.  You cannot obtain court order gender change in CA w/o surg.
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: GQjoey on November 20, 2008, 01:15:15 AM
its just to change my license, not birth certificate.
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: Mister on November 20, 2008, 01:16:11 AM
Is it the DMV form or a court order?
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: GQjoey on November 20, 2008, 01:17:03 AM
I got the paperwork from my Dr. says DMV in the upper left, CONFIDENTIAL in the middle..and just her stating her "patient" is male, in her opinion.
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: Mister on November 20, 2008, 01:19:13 AM
That's DMV only.  You can get a CA license or ID with that but cannot change the gender on your birth certificate or with social security.  For that you need a court ordered gender change, which you can't get without surgery in California. 
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: Renate on November 20, 2008, 06:09:23 AM
You've got a "carry letter".

QuoteTWIMC:

I am a psychologist. John Random has been under my care for 3 months.
In my determination his gender is predominately male.

Signed,

Joan Medico

In at least three states, California, New York, Washington, this will be sufficient to change the gender marker on your driver's license.

Changing the gender on your Social Security records theoretically requires completion of sex change surgery.
What qualifies as "sex change surgery" is a bit nebulous.

Changing Social Security records (https://www.susans.org/wiki/Changing_Social_Security_records)
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: sneakersjay on November 20, 2008, 10:05:42 AM
Quote from: GQjoey on November 19, 2008, 10:41:19 PM
I have the paperwork to change the dreaded F to a M, just wondering if I need to change it through the Social Security office first, or can I just go straight to the DMV with it? My name was changed years ago, through the ss office too, just don't want to waste time going straight to the DMV if I need to hit the ss office first. I'm in California, if it makes a difference..THanks.

I didn't change it with SS yet; I don't think you can change it without a surgeon's letter.  I'm waiting until after top surgery in a few weeks to do that.  In my state all I needed was a therapist's letter stating that I was living full-time in my chosen gender.

Jay
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: GQjoey on November 20, 2008, 11:35:27 AM
So, I'm barely awake and a little confused. I CAN change the gender mark on my id, correct? Just not through ss until after surgery?
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: iFindMeHere on November 20, 2008, 11:42:17 AM
Quote from: GQjoey on November 20, 2008, 11:35:27 AM
So, I'm barely awake and a little confused. I CAN change the gender mark on my id, correct? Just not through ss until after surgery?

yes.
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: J.T. on November 20, 2008, 08:40:43 PM
congrats dude. 

Yep no SS until after surgery.  You need to change BC before SS too, i think.
Title: Re: Gender marker on license
Post by: Mister on November 20, 2008, 09:29:12 PM
Quote from: J.T. on November 20, 2008, 08:40:43 PM
congrats dude. 
You need to change BC before SS too, i think.

Nope.