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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Mari on December 05, 2008, 07:51:01 AM

Title: Adam's apple
Post by: Mari on December 05, 2008, 07:51:01 AM
Since i was and still am overweight my Adam's apple never quite bothered me because it wasn't very large and was covered with fat anyway. Now, 3 month into HRT although i haven't lost much weight at all, it seems that my neck is becoming slimmer on its own, and my adams apple is becoming noticeable from ceratn angles. I have no way of predicting what it will look like when i lose all the weight i intend to, but am afreid it will become noticeable as i have quite prominent larynx, the bump on top is not very big itself.
So... how do/did u handle this? I know some woman have adam's apple too, only that i already have more than enough of those "exotic" female traits. Havng it surgicaly removed is not something i would prefer...
Your thoughts and suggestions are welcome :)
Title: Re: Adam's apple
Post by: vanna on December 05, 2008, 08:08:12 AM


As you develop your voice to your female voice that tends to make the apple ride higher and more inward but other than that the only way i know of is obviously a surgical shave.
Title: Re: Adam's apple
Post by: soldierjane on December 05, 2008, 08:16:53 AM
Mine is of a disagreeable size and early on I thought it'd be a passing liability but it hasn't really turned out to be so in my experience. Despite this and even though it's $3K I don't have, I'd like it whittled down someday for my own comfort.
Title: Re: Adam's apple
Post by: mickie88 on December 05, 2008, 09:24:44 AM
i still have mine. i figured it would always out me too. but i have developed my female voice quite well that most people can't tell between my wife and i on the phone (including family sometimes). it hasn't been a nuisance as much as i thought it would be.
Title: Re: Adam's apple
Post by: pretty pauline on January 18, 2009, 06:55:41 PM
Quote from: Mari on December 05, 2008, 07:51:01 AM
Havng it surgicaly removed is not something i would prefer...
Your thoughts and suggestions are welcome :)
Mari
Having it surgicaly shaved is not that painful, I had my trach shaved the same time as my srs, I had a bit of numbness around the area, felt like a sore throat, I use to hide the small scar with a little powder makeup, my voice recovered no problem.
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Title: Re: Adam's apple
Post by: Lisbeth on January 18, 2009, 07:04:42 PM
At one point my ex was talking about adams apples and trans people. After she left I looked at my oldest daughter and said, "I don't know what that's supposed to mean about us." My daughter has one, and I don't.
Title: Re: Adam's apple
Post by: kytheragraves on January 18, 2009, 07:50:03 PM
A choker works, or a scarf. Chokers are cute and always in style.

If you're swimming in cash, surgery is an option. But if it's not too noticeable you have to weigh the possible benefit against the cost and risks. It's a couple thousand dollars and leaves a telltale scar. Also, you could lose a lot of vocal range if the surgeon shaves away too much tissue.

So if it's only visible from certain angles, or only if you tilt your head back, it might not be worth the risk or cost for the surgery.

If you are considering surgery, definitely get outside opinions -- at least ask your friends, if not consult with an actual surgeon. I assumed for years that I would need a tracheal shave because I can feel a lump when I put my hand to my throat. But when I actually started asking my partner & friends about it, they said "you have an adams apple?"  This threw me for a loop, and I thought they were lying to make me feel better. But when I took some pictures of the area, I realized they were totally right -- despite the way it feels, my trachea bump doesn't show from most angles. And when it does show, it's small enough to be within female norms.

So in the end I decided against a tracheal shave, and in the long run that will save me money and brain cells (i.e. avoiding anesthesia). While a surgeon might have warned me against the procedure if I'd suggested it, you never know. It pays to get those outside opinions.
Title: Re: Adam's apple
Post by: ilikepotatoes on January 18, 2009, 07:52:13 PM
You could always cover it with a fashionable scarf. I know of one woman with a little adam's apple (and uterus) who often did this.
Title: Re: Adam's apple
Post by: Ms Bev on January 18, 2009, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Ms Delgado on December 05, 2008, 08:08:12 AM


As you develop your voice to your female voice that tends to make the apple ride higher and more inward.......

I agree.  I didn't get a tracheal shave, and never will.  As you develop your voice, the adam's apple will be higher, and less obvious.  I see lots of women with a bigger adam's apple than mine.  Mine is more of an Eve's apple.
Have you noticed.....gg's with adam's apples don't hide them.  Heck...I doubt they give them any thought at all.....


Bev 
Title: Re: Adam's apple
Post by: pretty pauline on January 20, 2009, 05:33:31 PM
Quote from: Miss Bev on January 18, 2009, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Ms Delgado on December 05, 2008, 08:08:12 AM


As you develop your voice to your female voice that tends to make the apple ride higher and more inward.......

I agree.  I didn't get a tracheal shave, and never will.  As you develop your voice, the adam's apple will be higher, and less obvious.  I see lots of women with a bigger adam's apple than mine.  Mine is more of an Eve's apple.
Have you noticed.....gg's with adam's apples don't hide them.  Heck...I doubt they give them any thought at all.....


Bev 

Quote from: kytheragraves on January 18, 2009, 07:50:03 PM
A choker works, or a scarf. Chokers are cute and always in style.

If you're swimming in cash, surgery is an option. But if it's not too noticeable you have to weigh the possible benefit against the cost and risks. It's a couple thousand dollars and leaves a telltale scar. Also, you could lose a lot of vocal range if the surgeon shaves away too much tissue.

So if it's only visible from certain angles, or only if you tilt your head back, it might not be worth the risk or cost for the surgery.

If you are considering surgery, definitely get outside opinions -- at least ask your friends, if not consult with an actual surgeon. I assumed for years that I would need a tracheal shave because I can feel a lump when I put my hand to my throat. But when I actually started asking my partner & friends about it, they said "you have an adams apple?"  This threw me for a loop, and I thought they were lying to make me feel better. But when I took some pictures of the area, I realized they were totally right -- despite the way it feels, my trachea bump doesn't show from most angles. And when it does show, it's small enough to be within female norms.

So in the end I decided against a tracheal shave, and in the long run that will save me money and brain cells (i.e. avoiding anesthesia). While a surgeon might have warned me against the procedure if I'd suggested it, you never know. It pays to get those outside opinions.
Well all the replys have been interesting, but everybody is so different, my own experience my adam's apple was very prominent and noticeable, sometimes comments where made, I really hated it, chokers are pretty and fashionable and scarfs, but you can't wear them all the time and in summer.
I love neck jewellery pearls, chains, I had my trach shaved right back same time as my srs surgery so it didn't cost as much, Iv no regrets and it made such a different, Iv now got a very feminine neck to show off nice jewellery.
A big adam's apple with a cleavage just doesn't look right, just my view.
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Title: Re: Adam's apple
Post by: ilikepotatoes on January 20, 2009, 05:57:44 PM
Quote from: pretty pauline on January 20, 2009, 05:33:31 PM
chokers are pretty and fashionable and scarfs, but you can't wear them all the time and in summer.

Scarfs aren't just for winter. There are delightful silk scarves for all seasons. (http://www.marysecasol.com/Neck_Scarf.html)