i broke up with my bf and just wondring if a lot of trans guys are gay or not because idk just wondering
I don't know of any numbers or anything, though I know a few trans guys who are gay. Personally I'm pansexual.
definitely a lot. i'm bi but have dated mostly men (they're on my comfort level; girls are hot but intimidating).
I aint gay. I'm a straight dude. but good luck 2 u bro :icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_dance:
The two kiwi FtM's I know in person, one prefers male gendered people (so gay, more or less) and the other is basically bi-sexual.
whats kiwi?
I'm pansexual. I consider myself very gay.
I would say bi, heavily leaning towards men, I don't understand women, they're like aliens to me, even just as friends. I admire from afar
Quote from: Nero on January 01, 2009, 03:34:50 AM
definitely a lot. i'm bi but have dated mostly men (they're on my comfort level; girls are hot but intimidating).
You're not the first guy I've heard that from. I'll never figure it out though. It's got to be a guy thing.
Karen
Quote from: emoboi on January 01, 2009, 03:10:23 AM
i broke up with my bf and just wondring if a lot of trans guys are gay or not because idk just wondering
Mostly I've always heard that (maybe just because there are more of them) orientations among MTFs are about equal, but FTMs are overwhelmingly straight.
But, gay as a picnic basket over here! ;D :icon_wave:
Actually, I seem to encounter (online, of course) a great many gay FtMs. I'm bisexual myself, with a slight preference for lads.
Quote from: KarenLyn on January 01, 2009, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Nero on January 01, 2009, 03:34:50 AM
definitely a lot. i'm bi but have dated mostly men (they're on my comfort level; girls are hot but intimidating).
You're not the first guy I've heard that from. I'll never figure it out though. It's got to be a guy thing.
Karen
I don't understand either. But then again, most of my friends are girls, and I actually relate to girls better than guys, so I guess I am not your average lad.
Adrian
Not gay, not straight. What's the term for that? Asexual? Bah, sounds weird. Whatever it may be, I am peacefully uninterested in both.
Intimidated by women? I'm ashamed to say that I find women irritating. I have the fatal flaw of judging them by their gender (a misogynist FtM? oh lovely) - though I struggle very hard to catch myself in the act and stop those unfair thoughts. I think it may be more my hatred for my situation than women themselves that causes this irritation.
Quote from: Reese on January 01, 2009, 05:37:41 PM
Not gay, not straight. What's the term for that? Asexual? Bah, sounds weird. Whatever it may be, I am peacefully uninterested in both.
Intimidated by women? I'm ashamed to say that I find women irritating. I have the fatal flaw of judging them by their gender (a misogynist FtM? oh lovely) - though I struggle very hard to catch myself in the act and stop those unfair thoughts. I think it may be more my hatred for my situation than women themselves that causes this irritation.
Ditto to everything Reese said. Unfortunately, being asexual seems to be stranger in many people's eyes than being FtM.
I used to believe I was Asexual... even joined AVEN and all that. But then I came to realise that I still reeeally did want/like... certain things. So I couldn't officially be Asexual.
as said in the movie Bad Santa, I'm "as queer as a ten dollar bill". I admire women and find many of them attractive, but the thought of sexual relations with them makes me feel queasy :D
eh... im queer i think. if i like you, i like you. im not particularly interested in if youre male, female, both, in between, or neither. :P i do prefer outties to innies though. (not talking about belly buttons. ;))
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hehehe
Gay as a goose over here. I've always liked men. Tried women in bed, didn't see the attraction. Other people's vaginas really give me the willies (no pun intended, but I'll leave it in, har). I'm used to my female hole and plan to keep it, though--how weird is that?
Reese, I wonder how many FTMs are misogynistic. I used to be pretty awful that way, but I've improved over the years. I still don't really understand women in a lot of ways even though I was brought up a girl...I mean, I was raised as a girl, but in a lot of ways I didn't think like a girl...you know what I mean, right?
Crikey, I think I'll stop while I'm behind.
Reese, i used to be a lil misogynist as well, around the time before and during i started questioning my gender identity... u know, just felt so much anger about how women wear makeup, etc, and pissed off at them for pressuring me into doing all that crap. u know.. it was always girls who wanted me to act like a girl, boys just didnt seem to care. but its not really women's fault.. those were just immature kids, and if i were a feminine or mtf boy i would have probably gotten much worse treatment from boys my age.
also i still resent the female body... i dont find it very attractive or beautiful like people idealize it to be. i find the ideal male body 1000x better looking than the female one (no offense to anyone)... and having a female body.. im not sure if ill ever get over it.. and having a vagina, its just gross and ugly, just not as good looking or sexy as a penis. lol.. ewww get it off me :icon_blah:
yep im as queer as a $2 bill..
oh but ive found some ftms sexy.. but still, the parts down below put me off..
'Nother Gay boy, here.
The misogyny question is an interesting one. Personally, I'm quite comfortable among older women, but teen and twenty-something girls, for the most part, annoy the hell out of me. Always have. I also can't stand super-feminine women of any age.
I'm a straight guy.
Though I can appreciate the male body, I don't want one in my bed beside me. Women are far prettier as far as I'm concerned. ;D
I don't find women irritating as such, but I can't imagine having a relationship with one. In that context I think they would annoy me, as they would probably be more... emotional?
In the words of Lila from Futurama; "Fry, I'm a woman, and you're a man. We're just too different."
Though as I'm staying a girl physically (for the forseeable future) I'm technically hetrosexual.
Even though, in my mind, I see myself as a gay guy.
'Tis confusing. ::)
Bi-curious in the sense that I am physically attracted to men, but so NOT emotionally. I probably would never date a guy. I would mess around with one, but I don't mess around with people unless I'm dating them, and since I wouldn't date a guy, that kinda contradicts. It makes sense to me.
:D
So realistically I'm straight.
Quote from: freespeechz on January 02, 2009, 12:08:58 PM
Bi-curious in the sense that I am physically attracted to men, but so NOT emotionally. I probably would never date a guy. I would mess around with one, but I don't mess around with people unless I'm dating them, and since I wouldn't date a guy, that kinda contradicts. It makes sense to me.
:D
So realistically I'm straight.
lol, thats about right with me too. Have you ever heard that there around around five different types of attraction?
Sexual, Physical, Emotional, Intellectual and Spiritual. I think I've only ever been attracted to guys in the Intellectual and Sexual sense, never have been emotionally attracted however which is something I would need if I entered into a relationship.
So, what's the difference between physical and sexual attraction? ??? I'm not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand the distinction.
I guess the difference would be a physical attraction to someone who you don't necessarily want to have sex with. And sexual... that's self explanatory. :P
Used to consider myself 95% straight, and 5%... unknown. Now it's about 50-50, and that's the influence of testosterone. Strange as it seems, T made me more into guys, and I guess being married to an mtf made me more into penises... but that's another thing entirely (or something... awkward silence...). :P
I dated a ton of guys before transition (and yes, I'd say it was definitely a TON), but never really felt anything for them. I could get attached emotionally, but the physical attraction was only there with a couple... and funny enough, they were gay and bi. The girls I dated, on the other hand, were somewhat distant emotionally, though the physical attraction was very much there.
I think, if I weren't married, I'd be searching for the near-impossible: a girl with male parts. Is it possible that my perfect woman could have a penis? Well... I married one... but I can't imagine spending my life with a guy. I could have one-night stands with guys. I could play the field with guys. However, when it comes to a soulmate, I think they'd have to be female.
I think, if we had a way of surveying every ftm on earth, we'd probably find an overwhelming number of bisexuals, with the rest split near evenly between gay and straight. But I wouldn't worry about what everyone else is. As Shakespeare said, to thine own self be true.
SD
Quote from: Osiris on January 04, 2009, 12:44:29 AM
I guess the difference would be a physical attraction to someone who you don't necessarily want to have sex with. And sexual... that's self explanatory. :P
Hmm. This is similar to what I was thinking--but a little different. Could physical attraction have to do with people you think are physically attractIVE but that you are not necessarily attracted TO? I mean, I think Evangeline Lilly is super cute, but, yes, I would definitely kick her out of bed because she's not a boy...
Or maybe I just rephrased the same idea in different language.
another gayer here....
I'm a man's man~.
For about two years I thought I was asexual too, but it never felt right when I tried to explain it to people. "Oh, well, I consider myself asexual, but I'm not
opposed to sex in any way, it's just not really my thing, and even though I've never dated anyone, I don't find it repulsive or anything-- just, I have other priorities and haven't really gotten around to it, oh yeah and I can't relate to the community at all and... oh what the hell,
none of this makes sense"
...Then last year, I finally realized the whole thing was just repressed transsexuality/homosexuality and everything's been peachy as pie ever since.
Quote from: Arch on January 04, 2009, 03:21:07 PM
Quote from: Osiris on January 04, 2009, 12:44:29 AM
I guess the difference would be a physical attraction to someone who you don't necessarily want to have sex with. And sexual... that's self explanatory. :P
Hmm. This is similar to what I was thinking--but a little different. Could physical attraction have to do with people you think are physically attractIVE but that you are not necessarily attracted TO? I mean, I think Evangeline Lilly is super cute, but, yes, I would definitely kick her out of bed because she's not a boy...
Or maybe I just rephrased the same idea in different language.
Yeah that about sums it up. There's, like, one or two people of the female persuasion who are easy on my eyes, but it doesn't go any further than that-- I just think they're noteworthy.