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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: Sandy on January 02, 2009, 01:53:59 PM

Title: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Sandy on January 02, 2009, 01:53:59 PM
Pat just called me and said that my amended birth certificate just showed up.  I am now listed as having been born female.  The truth has finally been revealed.

Interesting that it took just over nine months for it to show up from when I sent in the documentation.

This is last major piece of my documentation change.  When I first came back from Dr. McGinn's and had the gender change documents in my hand, I thought I would mount my amended certificate on the wall.

Interestingly enough, I no longer feel that compelled.  I will certainly file it with my other important documents and put them all in a safe deposit drawer.  But having to proclaim my birthright to the world doesn't seem necessary now.  I know I'm a woman (I have for quite a long while), and everyone else knows I am a woman, so what's the big deal?

Yes, it has been a big deal to get to this point, but from here on, I just want to get on with my life.  I'm as feminine as the next girl and I don't need a piece of paper to prove it.

Interesting.

-Sandy
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Chrissty on January 02, 2009, 02:00:02 PM
Sandy,

It's nice to finally hear some good news today!

:icon_hug:

Chrissty
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: coolJ on January 02, 2009, 02:00:43 PM
Hey congrats there pretty lady! I envy you!!!!!  :D
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Wendy C on January 02, 2009, 02:48:55 PM
Sandy my warmest wishes and congratulations Hon. You always were a girl though. Hugs

Wendy
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Constance on January 02, 2009, 03:25:31 PM
Congratulations!  :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: postoplesbian on January 02, 2009, 03:36:02 PM
But did you get the balloon saying so?   ;D


3 CHEERLEADERS TO YOU    :D
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Ellil on January 02, 2009, 03:56:08 PM
Grats on the wonderful news!
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: iminadaze on January 02, 2009, 04:38:47 PM
That is wonderful news Sandy, here ya go girl


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Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: SusanK on January 02, 2009, 04:46:37 PM
That's cool and you can get the rest done. And give thanks it's possible. Some folks can't as the state still doesn't allow it (TN and OH at last count) and some won't or don't recognize it for some purposes (KS and TX that I know of).
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: tekla on January 02, 2009, 04:48:53 PM
Then don't live in Texas, Kansas or Ohio, which is damn good advice no matter what.

Tennessee is a toss up, very pretty, wrong population.
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Mika N. on January 02, 2009, 04:56:05 PM
Sandy,

I envy you so much!  I hope someday to reach that point.  Congrats!

Mika
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Suzy on January 02, 2009, 05:15:00 PM
How very wonderful, Sandy!

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Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: postoplesbian on January 02, 2009, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: tekla on January 02, 2009, 04:48:53 PM
Then don't live in Texas, Kansas or Ohio, which is damn good advice no matter what.

Tennessee is a toss up, very pretty, wrong population.

Uh its not a matter where you live its a matter where your born  :police:
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Suzy on January 02, 2009, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: postoplesbian on January 02, 2009, 05:21:29 PM

Uh its not a matter where you live its a matter where your born  :police:

Yeah, my thought, too.  Now if there were only a way to change that.......

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Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: tekla on January 02, 2009, 05:51:36 PM
I can't remember the last time anyone asked for it, other than the feds, who will take court documents to change your passport. 

And an amended certificate of live birth, is just that.  It does not change the original record, held in several places, on different media.
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Janet_Girl on January 02, 2009, 05:54:00 PM
It seems to be an unimportant piece of paper, but it is a milestone.

Congratulations, Sandy

Janet

Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: tekla on January 02, 2009, 05:57:04 PM
Anytime you can get the government to do anything for you is a milestone anymore.
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: SusanK on January 03, 2009, 08:38:20 AM
Quote from: Kristi on January 02, 2009, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: postoplesbian on January 02, 2009, 05:21:29 PM

Uh its not a matter where you live its a matter where your born  :police:

Yeah, my thought, too.  Now if there were only a way to change that.......

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And sadly that's the reality with some and the biggest road block in their transistion. And while it's funny to make an off-hand comment about these states, it doesn't help those who have to live with their laws.
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: SusanK on January 03, 2009, 08:40:27 AM
Quote from: tekla on January 02, 2009, 05:51:36 PM
I can't remember the last time anyone asked for it, other than the feds, who will take court documents to change your passport.

No one because passports are federal documents issued by the State Department. They and they alone determine the rules and controls the process to get one. They rely on other agencies' information about you if they need or want to know.
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Shana A on January 03, 2009, 09:40:36 AM
Congrats Sandy!

Z
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Julie Marie on January 03, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
Congrats girl  :-* (I already knew that).  But now my suggestion is moot, at least in this state.  :-\
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Ms.Behavin on January 03, 2009, 08:59:44 PM
Way to go sandy.

  I must admit I have not changed by Birth certificate yet.  But I've done everything else including the passport.  One of these days I'll get around to sending a packet back to Georgia.  But with the Passport and everything else I'm pretty happy.
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Wing Walker on January 03, 2009, 11:09:46 PM
Congratulations to you, Sandy!  I know how I felt when my new birth certificate arrived.  It simply declared the truth, as you have said, and it showed it recorded as an original record, not an amendment or correction.

Good going!

Wing Walker
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Sandy on January 04, 2009, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: Julie Marie on January 03, 2009, 10:17:21 AM
Congrats girl  :-* (I already knew that).  But now my suggestion is moot, at least in this state.  :-\
Yes, it was a bittersweet moment.  Not only did I receive my revised Birth Certificate, but Pat's divorce papers showed up the same day.

We were planning to get married as soon as her divorce became final.  I had thought that my request to change my gender had been lost in the bureaucratic labyrinth of the State of Illinois.  And since my amended certificate still listed me as a male we were going to go for a marriage license.  Now we'll have to wait for Illinois Domestic Partnership law to pass.  But now with the brouhaha with our allegedly corrupt Governor it may be a while before legislation here gets back on track...  >:(
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: tekla on January 04, 2009, 02:04:22 PM
our allegedly corrupt Governor

Your kidding right?  These people are making Louisiana look upright.  They got him on like 24 federal charges.  Where are the last two Govs?  In jail right?  Walker and Ryan, and Powell.  4 Illinois govs in the last 35 years have done jail time after holding that job.
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Sandy on January 04, 2009, 02:16:14 PM
Quote from: Wing Walker on January 03, 2009, 11:09:46 PM
Congratulations to you, Sandy!  I know how I felt when my new birth certificate arrived.  It simply declared the truth, as you have said, and it showed it recorded as an original record, not an amendment or correction.

Good going!

Wing Walker

Yes!  It is an ORIGINAL!  Nowhere on the form does it say amended!  Note the word "Original" in the upper right!

Here is a sanitized version of the form:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?action=mgallery;sa=item;id=1521 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?action=mgallery;sa=item;id=1521)
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Sandy on January 04, 2009, 02:22:54 PM
Quote from: tekla on January 04, 2009, 02:04:22 PM
our allegedly corrupt Governor

Your kidding right?  These people are making Louisiana look upright.  They got him on like 24 federal charges.  Where are the last two Govs?  In jail right?  Walker and Ryan, and Powell.  4 Illinois govs in the last 35 years have done jail time after holding that job.
Without hijacking my own thread too much, accusations do not imply conviction.

Yes, on the surface, 24 possible indictments does seem much more than just circumstantial evidence.  And yes three out of the last 4 guvs have spent time in the hoosegow (all of which I voted for  :embarrassed:).

However, until properly indicted, and convicted, calling him corrupt (well *more* corrupt than your average pol), is not considered truthful.  And were I a professional journalist, I could get well nigh sued if I missed putting in that little adjective.

-Sandy

BTW:Please feel free to continue with the congratulations!
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: tekla on January 04, 2009, 04:50:33 PM
Federal cases tend to be different, and Fitzgerald's record is nothing I would want to go up against.  Its not like the first Gov he's stuck in prison.  Hell, he got Cheney's guy Libby convicted, in DC, which I thought was amazing.  But read up on his record.  He is really one of the good guys.  And, for and Chicago Pol (Obamba included) I tend to think they are guilty until proven innocent.

congrads by the way.
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Jody on January 04, 2009, 05:01:48 PM

Congratulations I am just starting my journey so every little victory I read about gives me hope. :D :)
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Julie Marie on January 05, 2009, 08:54:26 AM
Quote from: Kassandra on January 04, 2009, 01:53:48 PMNow we'll have to wait for Illinois Domestic Partnership law to pass.

Did I miss something?  Has anything like that been presented to the legislature or even talked about seriously?  ???
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Sandy on January 05, 2009, 09:24:01 AM
Quote from: Julie Marie on January 05, 2009, 08:54:26 AM
Did I miss something?  Has anything like that been presented to the legislature or even talked about seriously?  ???

Actually, yes.  Illinois House Bill 1826 is the civil unions bill.  And actually addresses more than same sex couples but additionally other domestic partner arrangements such as two retirees who might live together, but cannot get married or will lose their Social Security benefits and such.  Here is my blog entry on it.  In there it points to the relevant state legislator sites and the civil union website itself.  It was hoped that it could be voted on this year, but now...

It has been reviewed in committee and is nearly ready for a senate debate and vote.  Considering the other equal rights laws in Illinois, it is anticipated that this will pass pretty easily.  But of course once the the fundies get wind of it anticipate as much crap as hit California.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,35300.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,35300.0.html)

-Sandy
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: SakuraPrincess on January 05, 2009, 01:21:03 PM
ZOMG!!! congragulations! that makes me so happy even though i don't know you.
i can't wait till it's my turn!
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Nikki on January 12, 2009, 11:57:38 PM
2.25 Thumbs Up!  :)
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Cindy on January 13, 2009, 04:30:59 AM
Awesome
Congratulations, and now you have a new birthday to celebrate!

Cindy James
Title: Re: It's Official! I'm a girl!!!
Post by: Rachel on January 13, 2009, 10:04:44 AM
OMG awesome, so congratulations

-does a little dance for you-