Poll
Question:
If you could be converted to a female sufficiently enough to give birth to a child would you like to do so (also includes the case if you were young enough to do so)?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 265
Option 2: No
votes: 82
If your reproductive system was sufficiently converted to enable you to bear a child would you like to give birth or would you like to have done so if you were young enough?
Hello Misty.
I voted yes but it's a quallified yes as at my age I believe that I'm past my prime as far as child bearing goes. :) Then at my age I would have to give it a lot of thought about wanting to raise children. A lot of women go through this though.
I've seen shows where a couple of GRS surgeons believe that transplanting, or creating female reporductive organs in FTM transsexuals is not unrealistic, and not so far off.
Also there is no doubt that it would create a lot of debate amongst everyone as well, especially in the trans world. Would this be the ultimate form of GRS??? I guess the quick answer would be yes, but then there would be the debate "do the reproductive organs make a woman?". I don't think that I'm really qualified to answer that, but my answer would be no, as women who have had Hysterectomies are still considered women, even though they endure a lot of psychological consequenses that are associated with it.
Steph
I voted no. Sorry if I skewed the stats :P
Dennis
If it could be done be prepared for a c section. The pelvic structure is different.
I would like to father a child. I just don't want to give birth to one.
Dennis
Heck no!
I would, to share the experience, and I love babies, it's Kids I got a problem with. I've gotten to be there for 3 of em, and even cut the cords, but it's not the same. Even with 'C' section and age, I'd have it, love it and raise it. It's just a shame so much of the experience just isn't possible.
terri
If I could, I would, and without a single moment's hesitation at all... It's always been one of those things that makes me feel so deeply sad inside, yet hopeful that technology will someday be able to accomodate such a miraculous process..
Love Always,
Love Forever,
Annagirl
I have never had a child as a male. I could totally see myself as a woman giving birth to a child, taking care of it (good and bad). Motherhood would be great. Thinking about it sort of makes me want to adopt.
I try to not dwell on what I perceive to not be possible. Would I if I could? Yes.
That said, I plan to adopt. Better for the planet anyway.
i have 3 beautiful children that i did not give birth to, but i was present and am as close to them as their mother is. the actual birthing i could give up as i have seen it isnt easy, what i would love to do is to nurse the baby. that is where all the bonding and love comes from. i would hold my babies to my chest after they were nursed and rock them in a rocking chair, it is the most wonderful feeling.
beth
Well yeah, basically, this is one of the wonders of being a woman the ability to reproduce, and having seen, at close quarters the whole process, and how painful an experience it is for the mother, well, and, of course, being a bit of a masochist, (but then you have to be to have kids, anyone who does will know, I'm sure!!
Chrissie, Father, Counsellor Referee, Taxi Driver, Driving Instructor, yes it is strange for my two, that their dad is a woman now!!
with what i went through with my daughter. I have to say only in part. I would love to feel the baby move inside me. I would not how ever want to go through the first term of the pregancy nor the 8-9 months.when it so close to birthing. i would agree with beth about nursing. i would love to experience that at less once.
If I were young enough to do so, without a doubt. I am very maternal in nature and I love nuturing children. I'm great with kids and they love me. Just ask my grandchildren. They always come running up to me first when we go to visit or they come see us.
The mother force is strong in this one.
Cassie
i would give almost anything. i have discussed it with some of my friends before and they'd each say to me with sour taste of honesty that without question, by not being able to give birth, i am most definately missing out on something, just like i always thought.
as for all the physical hardship involved, yeah sure - but that's not the point. it wouldn't be the same without it. it's you going through all that in order to actually, and the only real proper way of doing it to, bring a life into this world. if it was somehow made easy, i'm thinking it just wouldn't feel like you'd even done it at all.
having said all that, missing out on something that huge which i want that much, there's still the other side of it that is huge too and that i also want (ie. raising a child) - which i can do - so i tend to think of that, instead.
Not no but HELL NO!!! I watched my wife give birth twice...NOT HAPPNIN! It is a true miricle, and my kids are trerrific. I'm just glad I didn't have to pop them out.
In a heart beat.
Chaunte
I love childen and would love to been able to have a child.
DANGER! THE SCIENCE GEEK IS ABOUT TO SPEAK!!!
A few years ago when I taught biology, one of my students asked if a male could ever have a baby.
From what I could gather, it is technically possible. The fertilized egg could be planted between layers of muscle tissue in the abdomin area. HOWEVER, there are some major obsticals that would be considered show-stoppers.
1) the placenta needs to attach to an organ. Biological women shed the inner wall of their uterus to remove the placenta from their body. For a male, it comes down to deciding what organ they are willing to lose so that the placenta can be shed.
2) Massive amounts of hormones would be required to ensure proper development of the fetus. This would drastically alter the body structure of the male to a more female structure. The hormone levels required would probably prevent nursing afterwards.
3) Atopic pregnancies are incredibly dangerous to the mother and baby. One would really need to look at the ethics of placing yourself and an unborn child intentionally in such mortal danger.
Yes, but I already have three children and I'm too old have any more.
A few years ago a woman in the middle east recieved a uterine transplant. The organ functioned normally and had two menstural periods. After about 100 days however a blood-clot formed in the arteries the fed the uterus and had it had to be removed. The reason for the transplant was that she wanted to bear a child, surrogacy being against her religion. The only problem is that the anti-rejection drugs we currently use are far too toxic for a developing fetus.
With this in mind I hope to be young enough when this has been perfected to actually bear my own child. To actually nurture a developing life and bring it into the world would be, to me anyway, the greatest joy I can imagine. If the procedure is not perfected in time I plan to adopt. Just because I do not have a uterus doesn't mean I can never be a mother. There are plenty of children out there that have no parents for one reason or another.
I already have six so I think I would have to say know. Now grandkids that a different story but I guess that's not in line with the original question.
I have to say Cassie your response doesn't surprise me as it's reflected in how you talk to people here. You can see a motherly aspect to so many of your responses.
Shelley
This is an issue I have had for years! There have been so may times I have seen a mother with her child and I get this empty feeling inside.. It really almost hurts. For me, it's something I would risk my life to be able to do, something I have always longed for. I would consider it the most important thing I had ever done.
Luv <3
Paula
I would love to give birth to my own child if ti where possible :D
I would cheerish anything about the female life. In all ways.
Yes I would, to develop a child inside of you and nurture and raise the child. I have an empty feeling inside when I see pregnant women. I do not know if they know how lucky they are to be born women.
I think most do Moni, Perhaps one day it will be possible for those born in the wrong body to acheive full function and have the joy of that experience. In the meantime we pave the way. As long as medical science has folks who are willing to take the chance then there is always the possibility.
Cassie
Quoteacheive full function and have the joy of that experience
Personally I would agree with you Cassie, but the most common reaction I get from natural born females is "What? are you Crazy?" Some can't imagine why anyone would give up being a man to become a woman. Nothing to do with relidgion, politics or intolerance, simply that they don't look at it as a good trade, considering the harder life of a woman in relative compairison to that of a man.
Terri
Being 56, 32 years post-op, and twice married, this is something I have thought about many times over the years.
Yes, I love children. I love babies and children SOOO much that I try to avoid them because I felt it would probably never be part of my life.
When I was young (before 30), I would have KILLED to get pregnant and have a child, but I know now that there were two primary reasons why I felt that way; first was that it would have "proven my womanhood" (NOT a good reason to have a baby!), and, secondly, it is a part of every woman's psyche to want to nurture and coddle the young - basic biology. Heck, when my niece was an infant, I'd lactate just from being around her (and that was before transition).
Intellectually, I could see no reason for wanting to give birth (aside from selfish reasons) when there were so very many children who desperately needed adoptive homes or foster homes.
My sister and I were raised in a very bad environment and I swore I would never bring a child into a home unless there was a secure, loving atmosphere in which to raise him/her.
I always thought that, when I got married, when the time and the situation were right, maybe I'd adopt a couple of older children who REALLY needed a home, but years went past and the situation was never right so the family never happened.
I did spend some time on staff in a private school for troubled kids and worked with a group of girls in a family unit. If I was temped by parenthood, being "mother" to 6 delinquent teenaged girls for a year is a strong does of reality!
Regrets? Not really. I look at the world that today's babies will inherit and I don't think I would be confident sending a child into that future.
I feel really terrible saying I have -no- desire whatsoever to be pregnant.... If we ever have children they will most definetly be adopted children....
I feel bad because reading about how so many of you would donate your left arm so to speak to have the 'god-given' ability to become pregnant, and it feels like I'm wasting the gift...
:-\
Hello Alison,
There is absolutely no reason for you to feel terrible for having no desire to be pregnant. Just because you can doesn't mean that you have to. People should feel terrible for having children for no other reason than because they can.
Did that make sense???
Take care
Steph
Alison,
There is no reason to feel bad! Not every woman wants a child. To be honest, I think your desire to give a child lost & alone in this world a loving home is wonderful! You don't need to have a child be birth to be a great parent. All it takes is love and an understanding heart.
Chaunte
I'd love to be fully 100% a woman and give birth.
yes I do like to give birth to a child with out any question that's probably the only thing which I will be missing in my life after SRS.
Michelle
No way!
I love children but I say what my wife went through to deliver our three.
Besides I'm a grandparent 4 times over and I perfer being a grandma over a mother any day.
Jillieann
Well, "no." I love kids but probably would adopt for a number of reasons (overpopulation, unloved kids waiting to be adopted being two reasons). And, like some of you, would question the ethics of any new operation allowing us to get pregnant -- chief among the reasons against would be possible danger to the child.
Had I my life to do over again, I would have liked kids. People notice that I'm "a natural with them." My ex didn't want any and so we didn't. At one point, she got pregnant through me. I felt a mixture of emotions but felt the decision was hers. I've often wondered how my life would have been different if we'd had a kid.
But if the movie, "Peggy Sue Got Married" teaches us anything, it's that we would, if given a chance, go back and live our lives exactly the same way -- making the same good and bad choices.
Teri Anne
If I were younger and it were physically possible, I would love to give birth and have children. I love being the father of my two children, but always felt envy of my wife's experiences in pregnency, birth, nursing, and nurturing them. I would gladly endure the discomfort, pain, and fatigue of pregnency and birth in order to experience this. Of course, this another of the facets of life as a woman that I can never have.
Steph
it is amazing to me the change this experience has brought about in me. Taking care of dude's baby has moved me beyond description. I actually can feel that need, depite the insanity of it. [Def. past the child-bearing age, depite any miracles of science the future may have in store.]
Ohh... maybe it's selfish, but this is one of my deepest desires. From time to time, I wistfully dream of someday being able to carry and give birth to my own children. And when I remind myself that in all probability, I'll never be able to do it, it makes me more than a little sad. Silly, I know, but that's how I am.
~Kaitlyn
I personally do not wish to carry a child. I already have all the children I'm going to have and have a special bond with them. If I had been born with the means of carrying a child naturally, I would have done so, but if a surgery became available to allow this, I would not choose it.
Melissa
Yes, I would love to be a mom to my own child, but unfortunately that was not meant to be in this life :'(, maybe next time, in another life, in another dimension, in a different world with a different body.
tinkerbell
hi tinkerbell
i hope to meet you in the next time
love
misty xxx
Quote from: misty on July 16, 2006, 06:12:41 PM
hi tinkerbell
i hope to meet you in the next time
love
misty xxx
Hi Misty!
I hope so; look for me, ok? I'd be the one in the white dress sitting next to my daughter Amber under the magenta tree... :angel: :angel: :angel:
tinkerbell :icon_chick:
I would have loved to give birth to a child. It would have been a trill to be a mother.
Quote from: Melissa on June 14, 2006, 01:06:06 AM
I personally do not wish to carry a child. I already have all the children I'm going to have and have a special bond with them. If I had been born with the means of carrying a child naturally, I would have done so, but if a surgery became available to allow this, I would not choose it.
Melissa
Let me reiterate on this. I remain of the opinion that I would not plan to carry a child from this point forward in time, but if I had had the choice, I would have loved to have carried and given birth to the children I already have. I realized this recently.
Melissa
I would like so much to give birth to a child as long as this cause no problem to the baby. If there were no risks that a child born from a TS person could be considered 'different' like I am.
To better express my feelings (I always fear not to be able to write in a clear way) as an act of love and not of self-gratification.
I have often dreamed about this and wished it was possible
Quote from: Sharon S L on February 24, 2007, 12:35:16 AM
I have often dreamed about this and wished it was possible
Tell me about it! :'( I want this sooooo much that most of the time I try not to think about it. :'(
tinkerbell :icon_chick:
I answered yes but that would only be if I was in my 20s or early 30s. There's 35 years between me and my youngest child and that's about the max for me.
Julie
This is probobly one of the sadest thinks about me. I will never carry my own children and feel what it is to experience motherhood. :'(
If I could have had such a proceedure back when I was in my 20's, yes I would have (but not right away, of course ;)). As for where things stand now, the possibility of being able to do so will come too far in the future to benefit me.
and let this body go to waste? i don't think so.
Since I posted my last response to this, the answer has definitely changed. The new answer is: H**l yes I would. It's something I cry about every so often that I don't get to be able to do this.
Melissa
I voted no It's to much pain!
There's no doubt, I would love to bare a child. the pain's not an issue for me, I just wouldn't look forward to the stretch marks and the c-section scare, unless my hips miraculously widened. I'll even take the periods, cramping, and PMS, that comes with a uterus.
Quote from: misty on July 11, 2005, 03:00:30 PM
If your reproductive system was sufficiently converted to enable you to bear a child would you like to give birth or would you like to have done so if you were young enough?
(a slight 'tug' on my heart)
Yes.
I would have made a good Mom.
I recently dreamed I was prenant. In the dream I remember it made perfect sense how I became prenant, but even in the dream I could not recall how, just that it had made sense to me at one time. I knew that I was me and not a natal female. I also knew that the placenta had attached to my liver and I would have to be cut open to have the baby.
Unfortunately, when I asked why I had not felt the baby kick, they found out the baby was dead. It was horrible. I was really looking forward to having a baby and being a real mommy. In the dream I cried and cried and cried. I finally woke up crying.
I guess that means I would probably like to have a baby. They now know that under the right circumstances, a baby can attach to other organs in the abdomen and grow normally. I guess it's a long shot, but it does happen. But that means it really is just a matter of time.
Imagine using your own sperm to fertilize an egg from either a partner or a donor, then having it implanted in your liver wall. Imagine how this could potentially change humanity. Who carries the babies might be something couples of the future negotiate.
For our comunity, it could mean bridging that final gap between natal females and those who transition. The ability to create offspring.
Love always,
Elizabeth
No. Absolutely not...
And the parenting aspect? I leave that for people who would make good parents; I'm too wrapped up in my career. I'm lucky enough to have a little nephew (now 3) who I'm aunt to...
I would love to. You have absolutely no idea how painful it is for me not being able to have children. No idea! :'(
tinkerbell :icon_chick:
No thank,
never wanted children and I'm not the type that could ever handle them.
Floritine
I've watched my wife go through it twice and was incredibly jealous. The whole nine yards is what I want but will never have. Conception, gestation, birth, breast feeding, nurturing, etc. etc. and the greatest joy... watching them leave the nest and become productive adults.
Debbie
Ook, first of all, I have no kids. I actually wrote about this in my introduction. I kind of had a break through when my therapist asked me why Ii was so against having kids in my marriage (which is ending in a few months). I told her I just couldn't fathom the thought of being a father, I just couldn't picture it. I told her I love kids. She said I was definitely the nurturing type. Then she asked me if I could ever be a mother. I really thought about it and got a little teary and said definitely, but I hadn't really thought about it, I just figured it would never happen. So, I know it's painful and everything, but the immense closeness and bond you would feel with your baby, I would give birth to a child/be a mother and not think twice about it. Since that's probably not going to happen, I would take being a mother without giving birth. Meghan
You couldn't pay me enough to go through childbirth. I see the ability to not have a menstrual cycle or give birth as a major advantage of being a TS woman.
I would have liked to have given birth and nursed my children.
When my children were infants they would cry in the middle of the night and sometimes my wife was too exhausted to wake up to change and feed them. I would get up and change my infant and sit on the rocker with my child cuddled against my chest. I guess my chest was close enough to nature's meal plan and I would rock them to sleep. That was painful but nice. I wonder if that ever happened to other non-GG parents with their children.
I love children but I wouldn\'t like to bear a child
as a ftm I like little kids & stuff but dont wanna be a "mom". aint sound right 4 me.
what about a dad hidrix? could you be a dad?
Quote from: MeghanAndrews on May 26, 2007, 10:12:53 AM
what about a dad hidrix? could you be a dad?
thats diferent. yea I can be a dad. :laugh: but not the idea of this threadt ???
If it were possible, yes I would.
Absolutely not!!!!!!
Quote from: Katia on March 04, 2007, 12:24:22 AM
and let this body go to waste? i don't think so.
Lol. I wouldn't either. Tee-hee!
Yes I skewed stuff too as i am FTM and have kids. Did not give birth to them adopted and at one point thougt I wanted to give birth but then came to my senses. I actually realized it wasn't the birthing process I wanted but the end result (parenting).
Myles
I have always said I will father a child but I will never give birth...
yes yes yes ;D
One of the biggest thrills of my life was being present at the birth of my two sons....
One of the biggest dissappointments was that it wasn't me giving birth.
Yes, I would have loved to.
Buffy
No. Never. If I'm pregnant, I will abort. Fortunately, Ontario pays for abortions.
someday, ill have a child of my own, weather i give birth to it, or not. ill have one. it might my genetically mine, it might not, but ill be a mother...
R :police:
this is kind of difficult for me to answer because i would love to have my own child but i dont want to physicaly have a child... that would make me a mother. i would like to be a father though yeah. i would happily adopt. but do you see what i mean about having a child of my own? :-/ if there was a way i could have a child with a woman just as a man would then i definately would.
Nope. The two I have are enough.
I would love to experience the 9 months of pregnancy and then natural child birth. The miracle of day by day experiencing the growth of a new life in your body must be just wow.... sigh.
Where do I sign up....
Quote from: Renae.Lupini on May 25, 2007, 11:19:34 PM
You couldn't pay me enough to go through childbirth. I see the ability to not have a menstrual cycle or give birth as a major advantage of being a TS woman.
To me, those are the major DISadvantages of being a TS woman. I would love to have been able to bear children. Caring for my daughter was the most fulfilling experience I've ever had.
Karen Lyn
I was never able to father a child due to defective equipment. I have no need or desire to give birth to a child.
That is subject to change in my next life.
Wing Walker
if you see not being able to give birth, as an advantage, you my friend, are not a female of the species...
finding out you cant be a mother is devestating news for a natal female, why is it any different that ts women generally already know?
R :police:
absolutely, but not "just for the sake of having children", but as the fullfillment of a loving relationship.
Quote from: Rachael on January 05, 2008, 11:09:46 PM
if you see not being able to give birth, as an advantage, you my friend, are not a female of the species...
finding out you cant be a mother is devestating news for a natal female, why is it any different that ts women generally already know?
R :police:
Now Rachael, not every woman, natal or otherwise, has a desire to have children. You and I may wish it, but without living another person's life we can't say what is right for that person.
my 2¢
Karen Lyn
Probably...yes, I would.
theres a difference between not wanting children, and not wanting to be a complete, whole woman. Natal women who decide not to have kids have a choice,
but women dont pick and choose thier bodily functions and aspects? being a woman is a package deal, you dont get the buffet option.
actively saying your glad that you cant give birth, and dont menstruate is literally saying your glad your not all woman... why the hell did you transition then?
its like a m2f keeping her penis, because she wants to still pee standing up...
R :police:
Quote from: Rachael on January 05, 2008, 11:09:46 PM
if you see not being able to give birth, as an advantage, you my friend, are not a female of the species...
finding out you cant be a mother is devestating news for a natal female, why is it any different that ts women generally already know?
R :police:
I do not agree with that at all. Even if I had been born a genetic female I still would not give birth. Just because you do not see being able to give birth as an advantage does not make you any less of a woman. Frankly, there are too many people in the world as it is.
I would love to be able to give birth to my own children...even though I know it's one of the most painful things a woman to do...but the joy of holding your child for the first time...hearing their heart...ect...are all great things in life to experience!
Peace and love,
Isabelle St-Pierre
Quote from: Laura91 on January 06, 2008, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: Rachael on January 05, 2008, 11:09:46 PM
if you see not being able to give birth, as an advantage, you my friend, are not a female of the species...
finding out you cant be a mother is devestating news for a natal female, why is it any different that ts women generally already know?
R :police:
I do not agree with that at all. Even if I had been born a genetic female I still would not give birth. Just because you do not see being able to give birth as an advantage does not make you any less of a woman. Frankly, there are too many people in the world as it is.
international populations are not what inspires women to want a child... it is not so black and white...
R :police:
Yeah, I know that. I was just saying that there are way too many people around. The world would be better off if they followed their brain instead of their libido.
again, its nothing to do with labido... its the desire to be a parent, a mother, to bring life into this world, to grow that precious gift inside you, and raise and nurture it. I want children more than anything...
i see babies, and i feel a deep pain in myself, that i may never create life, that i may not have the gift that my peers have. I could be happy sure, maybe even live a good life without it, but being a mother is every womans right, and something that betters you, that changes you for the better. I want to continue my family, i want to have my own, a husband, two children, two beautiful babies, my own... im crying writing this... i never knew how strongly i felt.
R :police:
QuoteRe: Would you like to give birth to a child?
are you kidding me? and let this body go to waste?
Quote from: Natasha on January 06, 2008, 09:24:02 PM
QuoteRe: Would you like to give birth to a child?
are you kidding me? and let this body go to waste?
~laugh~ I'd like to give birth to a child through a C section.
To conceive and give birth to a child I would love to experience. My last child, a little girl that I could love to death and probably spoil her some as well, ya that would even make getting the periods worth it. Oh yes I love children I had 11 of them go under my roof through the years.
Cindy
Yes I would in a heartbeat. It is my one regret that I will never be able to give birth to a child.
MaryEllen
Hi Tink I will be the one on the other side of the stream sitting in the tall grass holding my baby a little girl wearing a frilly mauve dress and she has long black hair with a pretty pink flower and eyes, oh my, like black purls. Yep much like the little girl I had in my care for a while, a little Ojibwa girl, yep my little native princes. ;D
Well I had 11 children go under my roof through the years, My little native princes, three were my own and three nieces and one nephew my own three children two girls one boy and the last three children were left in my care by a friend I had them in my care for 2 years 5 years ago. I would still love to have one more if I could.
Cindy
Having raised a few I wish now I might have had one or two more. However, at the is point in my life (and for the rest of it) no way. While I might enjoy being pregnant I've gone through the end of that twice with my wife, once with a close friend, and that last little bit is not easy, so pregnant yes, give birth, more than likely no - and give up another 20+ years of my life, I don't have that to give anymore. Though I do look forward to grandkids (BUT NO RUSH THERE BOYS!!! so don't go out just to make me a grandma).
As to it being a right. Wow, that's loaded. That we license people to drive mo-peds, or to be electricians, but not to be parents creates social problems beyond all other social problems. And I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that the best parents I've ever seen didn't have enough kids, and the worst had too many. Some of the women I know, the majority at that, found it the best thing they ever did, but I know more than one who thinks that it was the worst mistake they ever made (at least at the time they made it, and the person they made it with).
definitely. not being able to give birth is probably the hardest thing about being trans that i've had to come to terms with. when i see a mother were her baby, i get tearful just thinking about what can never be. i know i can adopt but, it just doesn't feel the same :(
jenny
x x
That its not the same does not make it any less worthwhile. Lots of kids need good parents, even if they are not yours. They might just love you back. Lots of natural kids hate their parents, and what a heartbreak that must be.
Yes I would later on in life and hopefully that'll be an option for me eventually. ;)
I would not. It would hurt. And I don't want to be introduced to someone by them coming out between my cheeks - as hellos go it sure is memorable, but not very polite.
If I had had the possibility as is, definitely, otherwise no. First I won't be able to afford it, second...waaay too much publicity, but even if it becomes mainstream, I'd rather not because of the risks. I've never desired to father a child, and I think I never physically could either, that worked out ok for me.
Yes and in a way I sorta did read this thread https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,8132.0.html
I really don't know how I got to these old posts from back in 2005 but wow how neat. One of the newest one was one from Teri expressing her thoughts and feelings that her choice about adopting a child. Well I had 11 children go under my roof through the years as I have mentioned before but it's not the same as it would be having one myself but that wasn't meant to be. I also quite agree about what if we were given another chance at doing our life again. We wouldn't remember this life because it doesn't exist yet in your new life, would we repeat the same mistakes and follies of our previous life?
Cindy
Quote from: Pica Pica on January 14, 2008, 01:43:05 AM
I would not. It would hurt. And I don't want to be introduced to someone by them coming out between my cheeks - as hellos go it sure is memorable, but not very polite.
ROFL!! thats awesome :laugh:
Id do it at the drop of a hat, althoght id be insane if i said i wouldn't have an epidural.
I have enough, thank you!
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I would if I could.
Seeing as I don't have the necessary equipment to give birth, that doesn't seem like it's going to be a possibility.
But yeah if I could I definitely would do it.
Absolutely, I would love to have that experience!
Oh my gosh. Absolutely yes!.
I do it in a second id love to experience giving birth.
Well, that's a yes, if I were childbearing age again. But I would only do it once. I don't do pain well. And I don't like the way we're crowding the planet.
Absolutely... :icon_yes:
Heck Yes!
I was present when my own children were born and it was the most beautiful thing in the world.
I would love to be one of the trial patients for any experimental surgery for genital transplant.
Love,
Janet
As painful as it looks and sounds, it is something I would be a neat experience.
Oh my gosh, no way. If I couldn't have fathered them instead, they wouldn't be here at all. I just don't have the mother instinct... some of us don't.
Not only No, but Hell No.
Even though I helped raise 11 kids through the years, If I could, I wouldn't mind having at least four more. ;D
Cindy
Have a child? Actually HAVE one?? Lord No! I would have wanted children, but would have wanted my partner to carry them, if I always was lesbian. Oh yeah.....I always WAS! Hmm, that's right, my partner DID bear our children heh heh. But....if she hadn't been able, and I HAD been able, yeah, certainly.
*Looks back* It's all good.
Bev
Three people I work closely with just had kids. So, what once upon a time was our 'smoking lounge' tent, is now the baby nursery. Oh well. So I played with them for a bit. Little critters are real cute and all. Still, it was good knowing I'd be giving them back to their 'rents, and not taking them home with me.
My youngest is 16 and my oldest is 19. I have no desire to give birth myself and essentially start the parenting process all over again.
Yeah, mine are in their twenties, and I'm looking forward to being a grandparent, spoiling them rotten and then shipping them back to their parents.
As much as I wouldn't want to bring a child into this cruel world, plus the fact that there's enough people already (6.5 billion and counting), and at present I lack the resources to take care of said child...
If things were different, I'd give anything to be able to give birth. Anything. A coworker of mine is 7 months pregnant and invited me to her baby shower next month. I'm probably going to cry while I'm there but I'll try my hardest not to for her sake. It really pains me not to be able to give birth because I know that will always be something that separates me from most of my gg friends (some can't have children for different reasons). When I started HRT last year, my endocrinologist asked me if I wanted to store my "material" for later (my words not hers. I can't say the actual word because it's not mine, but you know what I mean). I told her if I can't give birth as a woman, then I don't want to have children.
Now I realize that eventually I may adopt, but it won't be the same as feeling someone grow inside me and knowing I can bring life into this world.
My mom (bio-dad) didn't give birth to me, but I am far closer to her in a mother-child way than I ever was with my bio-mom. I don't understand why some transwomen say, "If I can't give birth, I don't want babies." That bond doesn't have to be formed in the womb. I spent the first two years of my life with my mom, went without knowing her for fifteen-sixteen years, and discovered when we met up again that our bond survived that entire time. I don't even remember her from when I was little, but I always knew we were meant to be reunited (I'd stare at her old picture for hours as a teenager, wishing to talk to her just once). I guess my point is, once you've got a kid in your arms, whether or not it came out of you or your partner, it's something special. Anyway.
/endtwocents
Quote from: Yochanan on June 23, 2008, 02:03:25 PM
My mom (bio-dad) didn't give birth to me, but I am far closer to her in a mother-child way than I ever was with my bio-mom. I don't understand why some transwomen say, "If I can't give birth, I don't want babies." That bond doesn't have to be formed in the womb. I spent the first two years of my life with my mom, went without knowing her for fifteen-sixteen years, and discovered when we met up again that our bond survived that entire time. I don't even remember her from when I was little, but I always knew we were meant to be reunited (I'd stare at her old picture for hours as a teenager, wishing to talk to her just once). I guess my point is, once you've got a kid in your arms, whether or not it came out of you or your partner, it's something special. Anyway.
/endtwocents
I'm not saying it isn't special either way. Having a child is something very special, but for me it just makes me sad knowing I won't be able to give birth to said child.
Quote from: fae_reborn on June 23, 2008, 02:10:17 PM
I'm not saying it isn't special either way. Having a child is something very special, but for me it just makes me sad knowing I won't be able to give birth to said child.
I understand. It's kind of the same thing with me--I want children of my own (my own blood, not adopted), but I've no desire to have 'em come out of me, so I'm SOL. I've decided to settle for adoption once I get older and established. I make myself feel better about not having my own by thinking about how I can help a child already in need instead of bringing another into the world.
Hi Yochanan hon I do agree with your last post. As for me I passed the age of child bearing even if I could. But I did have the privilege of having had 11 children under my roof through the years, only three of them being my own. The last three I had in my care, one girl and two boys was 5 years ago now, I couldn't see them being separated. I enjoyed every minute although it did have it's trying times at times, still it was so worth it.
Cindy
The fact that I know that it will be impossible for me to ever have children naturally keeps me just as depressed as if you were to tell a normal woman that she can't have children.
I don't know why...But kids just annoy me...Even though I'm still one--I just don't ever see myself having a baby. To me; It just doesn't appease my taste.
A somewhat hesitant yes. I'm far more attracted to women then men, however there is still the part of me that would love to.
This is something i've thought a lot about. In the past I did try and my hubby and I were never able to. Our new BF was married in the past and has 4 grown kids so I know he is able to father them. I'd like to be a dad I think....so since I still have the equipment...we're gonna just see what nature throws our way. I might not even be able to have em anyways.
Absolutely YES YES YES!
It's my one big sadness in life. I would cheerfully sell every single thing I had and give away all my not inconsiderable wealth if I could really have this miracle.
Sadly - at jolly nearly fifty it's age more than anything which would be the obstacle. Back when I had my SRS they were talking hopefully about possible ways to do this... but as you know in 25 years nothing has happened.
We eventually managed to informally adopt a rather troubled teen whom we rescued from a life where he had gone severely off the rails, so I have a grownup son but it's really not the same as if he could be my flesh and blood.
Re: Would you like to give birth to a child?
No. Really envy those who can though. Wish I would have had it in me.
This is one thing that won't be changed by changing gender for me - I always knew I never wanted to be a parent so saw to that matter years ago.
Yup :icon_cry:
Quote from: tekla on June 23, 2008, 11:47:39 AM
Little critters are real cute and all. Still, it was good knowing I'd be giving them back to their 'rents, and not taking them home with me.
This is where I'm at with it also
I think children are wonderful :icon_cute: But I'm always glad when it's time to give them back :icon_yes:
been there, done that, never again
I would love to be able to both get a woman pregnant and be pregnant, I think.
Quote from: childofwinter on December 20, 2009, 10:32:08 PM
I would love to be able to both get a woman pregnant and be pregnant, I think.
Now that's just being greedy ;) surely?
Being a mom can be rewarding- I already have 2 stepchildren with my SO that I just adore. I don't think I would choose childbirth, but then this is a completely hypothetical situation so it's hard to say.
Quote from: rejennyrated on December 21, 2009, 02:07:05 AM
Now that's just being greedy ;) surely?
No, I'm kidding. :D
Seriously, though, I wouldn't mind either.
Absolutely, unequivocally and definitely yes.
I am under no delusion about all the pain and suffering that child bearing would bring as well as the trauma involved in raising them, but I could think of no greater joy than bringing a child into the world. Even in my male body, I get very cluckey when around babies. That would definitely make the complete package.
Alexie.
If it were possible, I think I would. It's hard to say though. I love kids, but I know raising your own is very different than playing with them.
Quote from: Kieri on December 21, 2009, 05:20:54 PM
I love kids, but I know raising your own is very different than playing with them.
That's effectively the point I always made when people told me I'd be a good parent because I did well with kids and many liked me. I quite enjoy my niece and nephew, but, sometimes, what I most enjoy is when they go back to their parents.
My senior scientist and my PhD student are both 4 months pregnant with their first. I am so jealous. :'( :'(
I could never father one 'cos the thing doesn't work. Totally useless lump of tissue. Anyone want it? :laugh:
Cindy
No way
Money that I don't have aside, my genetics aren't worth saving
Of course I'd want to have a uterus and give birth.
Only thing is I'm a lesbian, but even though I haven't started transition yet I wondered how could I give birth if I was a cisgender-born lesbian? So I got a book on lesbian pregnancies and found out... it's really not that hard. The problem is I don't enjoy the cisgender privilege in this regard as I don't have a uterus:(
I would love to have children and nurture them within me. The only painful experiences would be gaining a lot of weight, feeling some insecurity about my looks when pregnant, going into labor, and feeling the more painful baby movements in my body, morning sickness and having to do a regimen of exercise following the birth. I would love being a mother and holding my little miracle in my arms for the first time. I would want my beloved by my side supporting and empowering me, and telling me I'm beautiful even when I feel fat or hideous. Parenting would be rewarding.
100% Yes
If I could - absolutely. 100% no doubt!
In less than a heartbeat
Given the option I'd be willing to have a child if I found the right partner to have one with.
I voted no.
I love my kids very much, but I'm glad that they are grown and out of the house.
I think I was always a bit too self-absorbed to be a very good parent.
They turned out well enough though.
Quote from: Cindy James on December 24, 2009, 01:37:39 AM
My senior scientist and my PhD student are both 4 months pregnant with their first. I am so jealous. :'( :'(
I could never father one 'cos the thing doesn't work. Totally useless lump of tissue. Anyone want it? :laugh:
Cindy
Well; if it's up for grabs, can I have it? I'm off to the butcher, he's making sausages soon. :laugh: >:-) :angel:
Hell no.
Kids are annoying.
I definitely would like to, and have dreamed of it since I was little.
In a heartbeat. I would give up anything for that
i voted yes! :laugh:
Yes, I have no doubts. It would be so nice.
Goodness yes. A few years ago I heard that they had found a way to fertilize an egg with another egg. I kind of got my hopes up that they would figure out how to do something the other way around too. Then i could at least call myself a child's biological mother even if i had to use a surrogate. Somehow that would mean more to me than being the "father". Silly, I know.
Well science is getting there, unfortunately I think I'll miss the cut by a few years but it looks like trans women who are currently children now might have a good shot at it.
No way! That sounds too painful to imagine, especially when I don't particularly want kids anyway!
Quote from: Miss Bungle on March 10, 2013, 10:33:17 AM
Hell no.
Kids are annoying.
Also, this!
I never fathered a child – bad sperm – but I married a woman with two daughters. We got them raised, married and now we have four grandchildren – currently aged 8, 6, 5 and 3. We had them all up at the lake last weekend. It was a trying time – up early and play all day. They love me and I love them. Truly, it was a great experience and one that everyone should have at some point.
I would have my own in a minute. It would almost be enough to make me like men physically but I think I'd go for a donor.
I know this is an old topic but I have to
Were I cis I would have been a surrogate - I would have had a child for couples every three years - even as a lesbian who did not have a partner who wanted children or even had I not had children of my own.
I would really really love to have carried a child. :'( Oh well.
I looked up how many cis-women don't want children. It's at 18 percent. Not that different.
I couldn't imagine anything more wonderful than carrying a child and giving birth to a new life.
Absolutely, the thought of not being able to give birth makes me feel incomplete.
But it would never happen in a million years. Even if I did get magical ovaries, these hips just aren't cut for it. ::)
I voted "no" but there's more to it than just no.
Obviously, the only thing I ever wished for is to have been born female. Childbearing is part of that. But honestly, if I had been born female I'd probably still choose to adopt. If I do ever decide to start a family, there are a lot of orphans out there who are wishing for parents and a home. I don't think my genes are so special that I have to procreate when so many kids need a family.
So yeah, I'd love to be able to give birth, but I don't think I would. (Although if it happened by accident, I'm sure I would've been a very happy mommy.) :)
A bittersweet thought. :'(
Giving birth to my own child would not just be for me, it would also be the joy of knowing I was carrying my spouses child. Making them happy also.
Don't get me wrong, i love kids, but that's my wifes job lol... and she would kill me if I had a kid and not her