So, I have reading through a lot of posts. I got to page like 18. I read some stuff about people mentioning that they got a little bit shorter and some people also had a decrease in their shoe size? I'm not expecting any, but is it common to lose any height or shoe size, or is it pretty rare?
I am 22 if that helps.
Hi Veronica,
Your height and foot size may change by a small amount due to the hormones changing your body fat distribution but I think its safe to say any changes in height will be hardly noticeable unless you have really fat feet. I was 5'4" before HRT and I'm still 5'4"
Foot size, on the other hand, very well could change quite a lot. I went form a size 10 1/2 to 11 womens to 9 1/2 to 10 after 6 months on HRT.
Hope this helps ya some. :)
That's kind of what I figured.
I'm 5'9 now, and don't expect to get any shorter. My shoe size is a 9 1/2 to 10 woman's now, and I don't expect it to get much smaller.
although, if I could get down to like an 8 1/2 to 9 for a shoe size, that would be awesome!
Have you started HRT yet? If so how long have you been on them? I took me 6 months before I noticed and differences at all. If your a 9 1/2-10 now you just might get down to a 8 1/2-9
I wish I could. it starts getting harder to find cute shoes in sizes larger the 9 1/2. Around here anyway.
I haven't started yet. Next couple weeks. Depends if I get them prescribed on the first or second endo visit.
Awesome! good luck.
Thanks! I'm hoping he will prescribe on the first appointment, but I'm not going to be super optimistic.
I haven't changed at all height or shoe size. I'm considered pretty skinny for my height so maybe that is a contributor to the decrease. But anyways one of those ymmv type of deal
Hmm... after 3 months of better hormone doses, my feet are now narrower. Shoes that I stopped wearing a few months ago because they were too tight now fit. I'm surprised - but pleased on the shoe front :).
I was 5'5.75", size 10.5 (womens) pre-hrt.
Somehow I've gone to 5'4.25", size 8 (womens) after 7 months.
^Wow, that is crazy that you have seen that dramatic of reductions after only 7 months, almost 2 inches in height is quite a bit. I have been on HRT for about 6 months now and have not seen an decrease yet. Mind you, I still don't think my T levels have been lowered even close to the normal female range, we are still working on that part of my HRT regimine. My feet have stayed the same too.
Ps, ^^What is your age, I am just curious. I am 25 years old and have not seen many changes, but I believe a lot of it has to do with my high T levels still.
Are you taking just estradiol and Spiro?
I hadn't heard about changes like that from HRT. It can make that dramatic a difference? I'm about 5'10" right now and a women's 8 1/2. I'm not on HRT yet, but I hadn't expected for those to change.
I went form 5 11 3/4 to 5 10 1/2; feet have not change
Quote from: starbright on April 01, 2012, 04:46:25 PM
^Wow, that is crazy that you have seen that dramatic of reductions after only 7 months, almost 2 inches in height is quite a bit. I have been on HRT for about 6 months now and have not seen an decrease yet. Mind you, I still don't think my T levels have been lowered even close to the normal female range, we are still working on that part of my HRT regimine. My feet have stayed the same too.
Ps, ^^What is your age, I am just curious. I am 25 years old and have not seen many changes, but I believe a lot of it has to do with my high T levels still.
Are you taking just estradiol and Spiro?
Im 29. Im taking estradiol, spiro, and finasteride. My testosterone levels are very well suppressed and on valentines day my estrpgen levels were comparable to a pregnant woman in the first trimester.
Wow, if this true about shoe size, then that's a massive plus I'll be looking forward to! Right now I'm between 11 and 11.5, and finding sandals that fit is a nightmare.
It depends on each individual, I'd think. My feet shrunk slightly, though I've lost an inch and some of my height.
I have gone from size 10 shoes to size 8. In ankle boots size 9 seems to be a better fit so 8.5 to 9 overall. Personally I blamed the 3 stones weight loss I had but others seem to have had it with little of no weight loss so maybe it was the hormonal changes after all...
B.
There are only two ways that you can lose height while on hrt
1. increased curvature of the spine
2. compression of the spinal discs
Your comfortable shoe size can narrow with weight loss, and perhaps decreased swelling, but your bones simply do not shrink.
Older people can also lose a little bone mass from osteoporosis - not a good thing!
I was a guy's size 8, shoewise. Nowadays, sixteen months of hormones later, I wear women's size 7.5 - although I have squeezed into a 6 before (a pair of 3" heels :p).
I haven't measured my height, but I'm not entirely sure that I would want to be any shorter...
Quote from: Jamie D on April 04, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
There are only two ways that you can lose height while on hrt
1. increased curvature of the spine
2. compression of the spinal discs
Your comfortable shoe size can narrow with weight loss, and perhaps decreased swelling, but your bones simply do not shrink.
Older people can also lose a little bone mass from osteoporosis - not a good thing!
Actually, I'm not a doctor, but I can think of a few other ways for height to be slightly affected. I don't know if they actually happen, but I don't see how they are impossible.
-Less muscle/thick skin/etc. (meat in short) in the foot, making it narrower vertically, lowering height.
-Slight reconfiguration of the shape of the foot, making the heel stand out a little less as it would "enter" into the ankle more.
-More lax joints from the muscle mass reduction, resulting in less space between bones and/or slight bone overlap when standing. You know, how some people's knees bent backwards to some degree. I believe that kind of flexibility is partly helped by HRT.
-Slight inverted growth before bones are completed at ~25. It has been officially noted in teenagers, I think, so maybe it can happen to a lesserd extent in young adults.
-Even if the hip bone itself does not change much (if at all), maybe muscles and ligaments on HRT will somewhat react as though they were in the presence of larger hips, with the femurs taking a slightly triangular angle, meeting the hip bone farther outside. The angle created would reduce height slightly.
All of these are very hypothetical, but right now, at midnight, exhausted and without much medical knowledge, they seem possible.
Also, I think it's natural to lose a little bit of height due to the spine angle change that is said to commonly happen ( men's hips tend to be upright/slightly bent forwards, whilst women's are supposed to be bent backwards by a more significant amount. The spine would curve, following the movement, I guess, resulting in a more prominent butt/hollow back and a little less height.
Quote from: A on April 05, 2012, 11:11:41 PM
Actually, I'm not a doctor, but I can think of a few other ways for height to be slightly affected. I don't know if they actually happen, but I don't see how they are impossible.
-Less muscle/thick skin/etc. (meat in short) in the foot, making it narrower vertically, lowering height.
-Slight reconfiguration of the shape of the foot, making the heel stand out a little less as it would "enter" into the ankle more.
-More lax joints from the muscle mass reduction, resulting in less space between bones and/or slight bone overlap when standing. You know, how some people's knees bent backwards to some degree. I believe that kind of flexibility is partly helped by HRT.
-Slight inverted growth before bones are completed at ~25. It has been officially noted in teenagers, I think, so maybe it can happen to a lesserd extent in young adults.
-Even if the hip bone itself does not change much (if at all), maybe muscles and ligaments on HRT will somewhat react as though they were in the presence of larger hips, with the femurs taking a slightly triangular angle, meeting the hip bone farther outside. The angle created would reduce height slightly.
All of these are very hypothetical, but right now, at midnight, exhausted and without much medical knowledge, they seem possible.
Also, I think it's natural to lose a little bit of height due to the spine angle change that is said to commonly happen ( men's hips tend to be upright/slightly bent forwards, whilst women's are supposed to be bent backwards by a more significant amount. The spine would curve, following the movement, I guess, resulting in a more prominent butt/hollow back and a little less height.
I'm not a doctor either; but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn. ;)
Quote from: A on April 05, 2012, 11:11:41 PM
-More lax joints from the muscle mass reduction, resulting in less space between bones and/or slight bone overlap when standing. You know, how some people's knees bent backwards to some degree. I believe that kind of flexibility is partly helped by HRT.
Something I learnt just a few days ago, estrogen does in fact make you more flexible. While I'm not a doctor nor studying to be one, I'm studying to be registered nurse, so my teacher does know this stuff. :p
I agree on rest of the points as well. While I'm pre-HRT and stuff and as such don't have firsthand knowledge there's quite many girls stating that they've lost some height as well as shrinking shoesize. Bones do not change, but muscles, fat etc do take considerable space between them. Not enough to turn anyone from tall to short, but enough to lose an inch or two. Keep in mind that while loss of height is practically non-existant between two bones, there's quite many of those inbetweens when you think of a human standing.
And shoes, same thing except in lesser extent.
My first pair of ladies shoes were size 10 court shoes and they were a bit tight. Today I tried them on for the first time in a year and they are quite loose on my feet. There is even a gap behind my heel and I have not been wearing them all this time because they were too tight and uncomfortable.
Nowadays I wear a ladies size 8 and I can just squeeze into size 7 sandals but I would never buy 7s.
Let me think, I wore a men's 9, 9.5 US. That said I just recently got some tennis shoes ladies 8.5 and they fit snugly a little to snugly but they fit that never happened before in my lifetime well since being an adult anyway. I am pleased as punch a ladies 9 and 9.5 fit very well thank you. :)
On the hand front I can almost wear a size 8 ring on my index finger and I can wear my roomie's thumb ring, so yeah HRT is doing something lol, and I have only recently started to work out.
Shoe sizes vary so much from the type (sneakers, heels, boots) to the brand. I have many that start at a size 7 up to size 10.
The only way to be sure is if the same shoes fit differently. (Or by some really accurate tape measurement.)
The shoes I have that now fit better have a stiff rubber edge to them, so I know they haven't stretched - and in any case I've hardly worn them, because they were too tight (and because of winter) so they've had no chance to stretch. My feet have just got narrower. Not lots, but every little helps when you have duck feet like I do.