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Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Topic started by: Nero on February 16, 2009, 07:20:51 PM

Poll
Question: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Option 1: yes votes: 14
Option 2: no votes: 11
Option 3: not sure votes: 9
Title: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Nero on February 16, 2009, 07:20:51 PM
Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Why or why not?
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his wor
Post by: Mister on February 16, 2009, 07:23:54 PM
Depends on the behavior.

Is this personal?  care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his wor
Post by: Nero on February 16, 2009, 07:27:55 PM
Quote from: Mister on February 16, 2009, 07:23:54 PM
Depends on the behavior.

Is this personal?  care to elaborate?

well not quite sure how jack assy the behavior yet.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his wor
Post by: Mister on February 16, 2009, 07:29:54 PM
Hm, well...  I had surgery with a surgeon who has a bit of a rep for not being warm and fuzzy.  If we're talking about the same dude, I'll give you my honest take on him.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his wor
Post by: Ender on February 16, 2009, 07:40:39 PM
I would pick a surgeon who does good work but is a jackass over a warm & fuzzy surgeon who produces poor results.  However, depending on what kind of a jackass the surgeon is, I would consider traveling to a different surgeon of equal or better technical abilities who has better people skills.  Really, the only kind of jackassery coming to mind is if the surgeon insisted on calling me 'she' and 'woman' (just because of the nature of the particular surgery I'm thinking of--ie, top or bottom surgery--but I'm not sure if that's what you meant) or if he/she was unnecessarily difficult to work with.  And the hassle of that last item would have to be weighed against the hassle of traveling to a different surgeon.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his wor
Post by: Janet_Girl on February 16, 2009, 09:08:09 PM
Results you live with for the rest of your life.  A Jack Ass is only for the short time.  If thier work is what I am looking for, I can over look the asinine behavior.

Janet

Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Ms.Behavin on February 16, 2009, 10:58:03 PM
Prehaps I'm weird, but I could not go to a Doctor who I did not like/ trust.  A doctor who was an ass, well Nope, Not for this chick anyway.

Beni
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: myles on February 16, 2009, 11:06:01 PM
Have to agree with Janet, the jackass is only around for a while the results forever. I would do it.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Dennis on February 17, 2009, 12:44:44 AM
The guy I went to had a bit of a rep for being brusque and abrupt. I don't care, liked his results and I'm not going to a guy who cuts people up for a living so I can have my hand held. I just wanted good surgery results and I got them. The guy wasn't bad anyway. A little humourless and definitely not a hand-holder, but I certainly don't mind that. Hand-holders creep me out.

Dennis
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: sd on February 17, 2009, 04:57:51 AM
Attitude and skill are two separate issues.

I would go to a jerk, if he was the best I could get. Warm and fuzzy does not make up for miserable results. Much of what we do is a one shot deal, if it is wrong it can be difficult and expensive to correct, if it can be corrected.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Kimberly on February 17, 2009, 06:19:58 AM
QuoteWould you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
yes    - 3 (21.4%)
no    - 4 (28.6%)
not sure    - 7 (50%)
Total Members Voted: 14
*shrug* I see no reason to promote someone's bad behavior. An said differently, there would be others whom can do nice work in most probability. So, no, I'd rather not give business to the jerk.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Sephirah on February 17, 2009, 06:37:38 AM
I guess, for me, it would depend on whether the surgeon was actually behaving like a reprobate... or whether they were just being highly professional (read "believing themselves to be God's Gift To Surgery") and it was simply me being super-touchy and far more vulnerable to misinterpreting other people's attitudes due to the importance and personal nature of the procedure.

I'm not sure, in that situation, I could reach an objective conclusion. So, on that basis, I would go with the option that would lead me to having surgical results I was very happy with... namely chalking the supposed obnoxiousness down to experience, and being thankful the surgeon stopped being belligerent long enough to pay attention to those who trained them.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Dennis on February 17, 2009, 09:28:03 AM
Quote from: Leiandra on February 17, 2009, 06:37:38 AM
I guess, for me, it would depend on whether the surgeon was actually behaving like a reprobate... or whether they were just being highly professional (read "believing themselves to be God's Gift To Surgery") and it was simply me being super-touchy and far more vulnerable to misinterpreting other people's attitudes due to the importance and personal nature of the procedure.

I'm not sure, in that situation, I could reach an objective conclusion. So, on that basis, I would go with the option that would lead me to having surgical results I was very happy with... namely chalking the supposed obnoxiousness down to experience, and being thankful the surgeon stopped being belligerent long enough to pay attention to those who trained them.

Yeah, I took a lot of the reviews of this surgeon's conduct with a big grain of salt, because it seemed that the negative ones were posted by people who had anxiety about the surgery and felt he wasn't reassuring them enough. I tend to think that's more a counsellor's job, not a surgeon's. Also I'm used to people in my job thinking that my role is more than it is. I'm just there to defend them on a criminal charge, not right all the wrongs that they feel have been done to them. So I have some sympathy for the doctor who's expected to be more than he is. His job is to insure you are informed of the risks and consequences of surgery and to perform the surgery. Not to calm every fear you might have about it. Unfortunately this particular surgeon doesn't have a warm and fuzzy nurse either, but he does give you a lot of information about the surgery.

People go into a career that mostly involves dealing with people under anaesthetic for a reason, and I suspect that reason is poor people skills in many cases.

Dennis

Dennis
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Ellieka on February 17, 2009, 09:44:05 AM
The spiteful person in me would let him do the surgery then turn around and sue him for emotional distress.  >:-)

Kidding of course, unless he did screw something up or was beyond rude.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Jay on February 17, 2009, 02:24:26 PM
Yes, as it shouldn't affect the way he works.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Sarah Louise on February 17, 2009, 02:36:36 PM
I only care about the end results.


Sarah L.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Kirin on February 17, 2009, 06:29:50 PM
My surgeon doesn't have to be my friend :) as long as the results are good, I'm fine with putting up with his attitude.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: sneakersjay on February 17, 2009, 09:22:13 PM
Quote from: Kirin on February 17, 2009, 06:29:50 PM
My surgeon doesn't have to be my friend :) as long as the results are good, I'm fine with putting up with his attitude.

I agree with this.

OTOH I had heard my surgeon didn't have the best bedside manner.  But actually I thought he was hysterical and loved him.  To each his own.  I *hate* fakey touchy feely people.  I like my docs professional and competent.

Jay
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: FallenLeaves on February 19, 2009, 07:56:26 PM
All that matters to me is total price and overall quality of results. I can deal with a couple days of jackassery if it gets me what I want.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his wor
Post by: Jamie-o on February 20, 2009, 10:31:22 PM
It depends upon how available similar work was.  If some jerk were the only surgeon able to perform a truly realistic, fully functioning phallic replacement surgery, yeah, I might.  Or if it was a toss up between a few chest surgeons, and the jackass was in my hometown, thus saving me a couple thousand dollars in travel expenses, and enabling me to have chest reconstruction several months earlier, I would seriously consider it.  But then, it would also depend on just how much he pissed me off.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Soapyshoe on February 21, 2009, 01:37:43 AM
It depends on the type of jackassery. 

I'm really looking for surgeons that know what they're doing, in terms of what kinds of outcomes are realistic.  For example, I want an FFS surgeon who is aware of what kinds of facial structures have an aesthetic appeal.  If the surgeon is a master sculptor of bone but doesn't give a ->-bleeped-<- about me as a person, that's cool, as long as he/she's driven to sculp the most beautiful face he humanly knows how to sculpt.

Anyway, bedside manner is overrated; vision, talent, and lots of good past results are severely under-rated.
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Ms Bev on February 21, 2009, 09:15:08 PM
You're paying for very precise, artistic work, not making a relationship.
Let him/her make you look wonderful, then go about your business and forget about it


Bev
Title: Re: Would you go to a surgeon who was/acted like a jack ass if you loved his work?
Post by: Stealthgrrl on February 21, 2009, 09:18:48 PM
I had to have surgery for something not trans related when I was 17. That doctor treated me like a block of wood and I never forgot it. So, no.