As FTMs I find a lot of us are too concerned about not being big enough for many things. A lot of us aren't tall enough, have big enough hands, feet, our lower extremities aren't as big as we want them to be... etc...
But for just one moment I want to say why I'm proud to be a smaller guy.
Now, you might consider me one of the bigger FTMs because I'm 5'7", but I'm still considered short where I live. It always used to bother me but now I just don't care that much.
Girls often sigh about how they want a big tall man or whatnot, but preference is just preference and it can be changed. My current gf doesn't like her men being really tall because she is quite small herself. The truth of the matter is, they may say they want a tall man, but it's not necessarily the only thing they want.
I've got small hands, though my fingers are long. I've got small feet, though they appear to still be growing. I'm skinny because my metabolism is still working too fast. No, I don't have a penis and when I'm on hormones it will be small. But I like it that way. That's right. I don't care how big my penis is, I will be proud of whatever little thing I get.
Why? Because it's mine. A dick is only as good as the person who uses it and in my theory, if you can only please someone with a penis alone then you aren't good in bed.
I once found a grain of sand.
There are many like it, but that one is mine.
I'm not telling anyone else how they should feel about their size, but I'm saying how I feel about it. What makes me proud to be a smaller guy than the rest.
If a girl leaves me because of what's in my pants, she isn't the one for me. If a girl isn't interested in me because I'm too short? Sucks to be her. Why would I want someone who only cares about my size? I want someone to be interested in my personality and I bet anything it's my personality that gets the girl, not my looks or how big I am. Physical attraction, yes, does play a roll but I believe it plays a smaller roll than we initially realize.
The truth is, at least in my mind, that the size dysphoria that we get is only harmful to us. If we make it into a big deal, then the people around us will make it a big deal as well. If your girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever is fine with you just the way you are, then it's probably you who is perpetuating that you have a problem because you aren't as big as you'd like to be. They don't have the problem with how big you are, it's you who does. And that doesn't make it any less of a problem for you, but I've heard of guys who lose their relationships because they let it take over their relationship.
And this is why I want to hear why you're proud of being whatever size you are. Tall, short, big, small, whatever it is that you are. Tell me some things that you like about yourself, about your body. The things that you feel that make you unique, even if they really aren't.
Great post and I agree with you. I actually like being small, I'm 5'5 and pretty slim but I like it. My girlfriend has no problem with my size, she's actually about an inch taller than me but I don't mind and neither does she. I think you're right, people, not just transpeople, make a bigger deal about size and other physical things that really just aren't as big a deal as they think
"them's the breaks, for us designer fakes, we need to concentrate on more than meets the eye" - Placebo, Twenty Years
Been listening to that song a fair bit lately. I can stare in the mirror all day and find fault with my looks but it won't change them, it'll only make me miserable. (Just cause I'm a tall one doesn't mean I like it all!)
Or I can get over my need to "look" a certain way, stop caring how other people see my appearance, and just focus on living.
Don't know about you, but he later seems much more fun to me..
Self-confidence is definitely an important thing, especially when it comes to interacting with other people (dating or otherwise).
Monty, I agree with most of this post, this phrase is problematic to me.
Quotepreference is just preference and it can be changed
you cannot expect nor have your partner change anything through sheer will. Also, it states that a preference isn't something that's concrete. i.e. I have sex with women. Some dude is not going to convince me to start sleeping with men because he happens to be one
My lady's $.02 is that at 5'7", she was sick of dating short guys. She wanted the option to wear heels and to have her FTM partners "not look ridiculous" in photos.
I'm about 5"5' as well. No problem with it at all. In fact i like that am stout. I'm not tall but I'm strong. Large bloke in thickness. Only think is wish they made more cloths for stout short guys. Shrugs. But my height is fine, though admit am uncomfortable around some guys who are taller than me.
Quote from: Mister on February 20, 2009, 05:49:44 PM
Monty, I agree with most of this post, this phrase is problematic to me.
you cannot expect nor have your partner change anything through sheer will. Also, it states that a preference isn't something that's concrete. i.e. I have sex with women. Some dude is not going to convince me to start sleeping with men because he happens to be one
My lady's $.02 is that at 5'7", she was sick of dating short guys. She wanted the option to wear heels and to have her FTM partners "not look ridiculous" in photos.
I suppose what I meant about preference is not something like orientation or whatnot, but rather, I've been with someone who loves my traits because they belong to me and their preference has changed by itself. Not that we can force a change in preference, but they can change.
5'3 here and I like it ;D
My boyfriend is 6'1 and seems to find my tinyness cute ^_^
Quote from: Jeatyn on February 20, 2009, 06:30:41 PM
My boyfriend is 6'1 and seems to find my tinyness cute ^_^
Mine is 6'1 too and calls me his little twink on occation, even if I'm an inch taller :P
Quote from: Miniar on February 20, 2009, 06:47:06 PM
Mine is 6'1 too and calls me his little twink on occation, even if I'm an inch taller :P
I can't help but associate the word twink with MMO's :P shota would be a more likely term for me
Also, wow you're a tall couple o_o
We are.. but we make up for it with being awesome
*sigh* I'm 5'2" and a quarter, I think. I MIGHT be almost 5'3". And I'm sorry but I consider 5'7" to be plenty tall, and I really hate being this short. :(
Quote from: Jeatyn on February 20, 2009, 06:56:31 PM
I can't help but associate the word twink with MMO's :P shota would be a more likely term for me
Also, wow you're a tall couple o_o
WoW has forever tainted that word for me.
Quote from: Elwood on February 20, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
*sigh* I'm 5'2" and a quarter, I think. I MIGHT be almost 5'3". And I'm sorry but I consider 5'7" to be plenty tall, and I really hate being this short. :(
I think there may be something in the water where I live that makes everyone so tall. I guess I missed out or only took half a sip, har har.
I know you hate being short, but at least you have the potential to be more agile than someone who is taller. I mean, they gotta be tripping over their own limbs, right? I mean, if we're going to be stuck this way we might as well find a way to be content with it and, maybe, a little bit proud.
Not every short guy is considered to be 'cute' because of his size. I think it's more of an attitude that defines that.
Cute, weak, submissive. That's what people assume.
Quote from: Monty on February 20, 2009, 07:39:33 PM
WoW has forever tainted that word for me.
Wow has ruined a LOT for me.
Quote from: MontyI mean, they gotta be tripping over their own limbs, right?
As (apparently) (one of) the tallest bloke(s) here, I can safely say, banging your head on low hanging signs, being asked to fetch people things off the top shelf, tripping over your own feet, walking into children (and anyone else who is below the line of sight), banging your head on low hanging anything else (chandeliers, cabinets, low door frames, etc.. etc.. etc..) Really gets old fast.
Besides, when you're over 6 feet tall, if you fall and hit your head, that's far enough to kill you, as a result of that, me and all my taller than 6 foot relatives have one thing in common. We're all deathly afraid of heights.
Quote from: Elwood on February 20, 2009, 07:53:02 PM
Cute, weak, submissive. That's what people assume.
People usually assume a lot of things that aren't true. The trick is to prove them wrong.
For example, stereotypes about being trans. If you're in a situation where you're out and open to people about it, they're going to assume things based on the negative stereotypes. That's where you show them that you aren't one of the stereotypes. It applies to a lot of things really.
People who are taller than me don't assume I'm cute, weak or submissive because that's not me. They get a pretty good idea that I'm not a push over by my actions and that's not to say I'm a jerk or overly aggressive, I'm actually quite the gentleman. It's the confidence and my willingness to prove that there's more to me that meets the eye.
Quote from: Monty on February 20, 2009, 07:39:33 PM
I think there may be something in the water where I live that makes everyone so tall. I guess I missed out or only took half a sip, har har.
You should move up here to Wisconsin. I swear half the guys I work with are no more than 5'6". You'd be downright tall here. ;)
Quote from: Miniar on February 20, 2009, 07:53:41 PM
Besides, when you're over 6 feet tall, if you fall and hit your head, that's far enough to kill you, as a result of that, me and all my taller than 6 foot relatives have one thing in common. We're all deathly afraid of heights.
Huh, I never thought about that one. I'm quite low to the ground myself (5'4") and kinda like it... there's something agile about it. Granted, I've never been in a 6' body, so I can't truly compare, but I think I'd be a lot more cautious with myself doing certain activities (mostly sports where falling down is inevitable, or mountain biking where there's low clearance under tree branches). I've been learning to snowboard, and not having a long way to fall is definitely a good thing... Come to think of it, the lack of height is also good when trying to fit comfortably in an airline seat.
My lack of height does get on my nerves sometimes, though--mostly when trying to reach something up high. Or when I encounter non-adjustable car seatbelts that were designed for someone 5'8" (sadly, it's still pretty common to design for "average male height," even though shorter men, women, and children past carseat age also need to use seatbelts). I've had belts go across my neck in some cases and it's downright dangerous.
My flatmate is around 6'3" and has whacked his head on things a fair number of times XD doesn't sound that awesome 8) but I can't speak cause I'm about 5'8" and am average height for dudes in my country it seems *shrugs*
I'm 5'4/5'5 and never really had a problem with my height. Of course I sometimes wish I was a little taller, ok, at least 6 foot, but I am what I am. I get thrills out of seeing bio dudes shorter than me, my own inside thing. Nothing wrong with them, but I guess you can say it boosts my ego a lil more. Being on the short spectrum is going to suck no doubt, but see it from a little person's point of view, they'd give anything to just be 5 foot.
It really IS all about confidence. You can be 5 foot, and carry yourself as a 7 foot beast. Maybe it's just me. My friends always give me duece saying I have "short mans syndrome". I'll happily take the title.
Also NEVER dated a girl taller than me. My height, an inch or two shorter, and now my gf is a good 2-3 inches taller. Bugged me at first, but the fact she could give two dueces definitely shattered my insecurities with it. Transmen, Bio Men, whatever the difference..we all come in all different shapes and sizes, and whether we like it or not..we're stuck with it for life, might as well get comfortable.
Quote from: GQjoey on February 21, 2009, 01:45:54 AM
but see it from a little person's point of view, they'd give anything to just be 5 foot.
Yeah I find it hard to get annoyed with my height when my sister is actually a dwarf, she's about 3'10 so who am I to complain about being 5'3 :P
Barely hitting 5-3 here. :( But I don't think I'm done growing yet so. My girlfriend's 5-4/5 ish, she doesn't mind, neither do I. I think the range is about 3-4inches max difference in height before it gets particularly awkward between a guy and his girl. I don't really care about my height right now, as long as I can still get dates. ;D
All of us who have posted are taller than Prince, albeit perhaps only by an inch or even less. I'm 5 foot two and a fraction, shortest in the family except for the cat. I love being short; I think I'm adorable. Well, I'd think that if I was tall, too. Also, I don't want to scare or intimidate people by being tall. That would be an unfair advantage in the contests of creepiness. I want to earn my fear, bwa ha ha ha ha!
Hrmmm.. I wonder if I fit this category: I hit 5'1" if I try but I'm a "fluffy" short guy. My g/f, on the other hand, is 5'9" without heels and with can be anywhere from 6'-6'3" (and she loves heels). She has asked me if it bothers me.
Nope.
Just means everything is in perfect view (LOL). :D
Kidding aside, I don't mind being shorter. Kids and animals seem to relate better to me for some weird reason and I look a lot younger than my age (although the grey sometimes gives it away). I am working on the thinner part for now since I can't work on the height part really.
I'm 5'4", very slim, and my whole body is in proportion to my being "small" in general. I haven't grown in any way since I was 12, and I like it. I like looking the cute, vulnerable little boy. Though with this chest *sighs* and the clothing I wear, strangers generally don't see me as a boy.. but strangers aren't any reason to be ashamed of being who I am. I can't change me and if I could.. I wouldn't anyway.
I'm really really short... four eleven. The only things growing are my feet and my hair, bleh. I've been trying to observe how short guys talk to taller guys without making themselves seem diminutive. Most of the ones I've seen can pull it off, and I want to learn as well!
On a related note, I saw a guy on the train once who was actually shorter than me by an inch or so. He was Mexican. Maybe if I got a tan and dyed my hair black I could pass for a Mexican guy?
Quote from: Yochanan on February 26, 2009, 01:26:23 PM
I'm really really short... four eleven. The only things growing are my feet and my hair, bleh. I've been trying to observe how short guys talk to taller guys without making themselves seem diminutive. Most of the ones I've seen can pull it off, and I want to learn as well!
On a related note, I saw a guy on the train once who was actually shorter than me by an inch or so. He was Mexican. Maybe if I got a tan and dyed my hair black I could pass for a Mexican guy?
Riiiight, because there isn't a difference in the facial features/structure of the races? Please tell me you're kidding.
I think it was a joke, but you'd be surprised how bad people are at recognizing races. I know Latino people and a Paluan person (small island nation near New Zealand) who have been thought to be black, and one time someone asked me if I am African American (I am pale, green-eyed, and blond. I do not know what that was about). Never underestimate the ignorance and stupidity of the human race!
Quote from: Elwood on February 20, 2009, 07:53:02 PM
Cute, weak, submissive. That's what people assume.
I would associate them with having "short man syndrome"
I am about 5'7" or 5'8" I am not that short but I am not exactly tall for a guy average height again.
Quote from: Mister on February 26, 2009, 02:28:38 PM
Riiiight, because there isn't a difference in the facial features/structure of the races? Please tell me you're kidding.
I actually was kidding, dude.
I see a lot of guys my size (5'3"). But that doesn't stop me from wanting to be taller. Plus, they still have the advantage of having a real penis.
Elwood, I think there's quite a few of us who would like to be taller, but it's one thing about ourselves we can't change. So, the idea is to accept what we can change and what we can't.
We could be sour all we want about our height because it's not what we'd like, but that doesn't get us anywhere. Genetic guys and girls aren't automatically happy with their heights because it's not like they get to decide and we don't. Not all confidence can be gained by being taller or shorter or taking hormones or surgeries. We have to learn to be happy with ourselves, even if we dislike or hate our parts, because we're never going to be happy about ourselves unless we do. The more we accept ourselves and the things we cannot change, the more effective transition will be because it obviously doesn't cure everything as much as we'd like to believe. A lot of the insecurities you take into transition will still be there afterwards.
I can't tell you or anyone how to think about their body. That's completely up to that individual. What I will say is that when I kept thinking about the taller girls and men and dwelling on it, I was unhappy because I made it a big deal. Now instead of saying to myself, "I'm not this, I'm not this..." I'm telling myself the advantages of being shorter and I'm a lot happier because I'm dwelling on the positive. Thinking and dwelling about what I don't have, that I either can't change or wont be able to change for a long time always made me feel horrible, so I try to look on the positive side. Whether that's me being comfortable with the things I cannot change or holding onto the hope that one day I will be able to change something about myself. Inner peace is really powerful.
Quote from: Monty on February 27, 2009, 03:38:38 PM
Elwood, I think there's quite a few of us who would like to be taller, but it's one thing about ourselves we can't change. So, the idea is to accept what we can change and what we can't.
We could be sour all we want about our height because it's not what we'd like, but that doesn't get us anywhere. Genetic guys and girls aren't automatically happy with their heights because it's not like they get to decide and we don't. Not all confidence can be gained by being taller or shorter or taking hormones or surgeries. We have to learn to be happy with ourselves, even if we dislike or hate our parts, because we're never going to be happy about ourselves unless we do. The more we accept ourselves and the things we cannot change, the more effective transition will be because it obviously doesn't cure everything as much as we'd like to believe. A lot of the insecurities you take into transition will still be there afterwards.
I can't tell you or anyone how to think about their body. That's completely up to that individual. What I will say is that when I kept thinking about the taller girls and men and dwelling on it, I was unhappy because I made it a big deal. Now instead of saying to myself, "I'm not this, I'm not this..." I'm telling myself the advantages of being shorter and I'm a lot happier because I'm dwelling on the positive. Thinking and dwelling about what I don't have, that I either can't change or wont be able to change for a long time always made me feel horrible, so I try to look on the positive side. Whether that's me being comfortable with the things I cannot change or holding onto the hope that one day I will be able to change something about myself. Inner peace is really powerful.
nice, dude.
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Quote from: Elwood on February 27, 2009, 12:07:52 PM
I see a lot of guys my size (5'3"). But that doesn't stop me from wanting to be taller. Plus, they still have the advantage of having a real penis.
are you sure? did you check?
No, but these guys are bioguys. I don't know if they have *perfect* penises, but they have them. Men with penises walk with a confidence that men without them don't.
Quote from: Elwood on February 27, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
No, but these guys are bioguys. I don't know if they have *perfect* penises, but they have them. Men with penises walk with a confidence that men without them don't.
Teehee.
Women with vaginas also walk prouder, now that I think about it...
Quote from: Elwood on February 27, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
Men with penises walk with a confidence that men without them don't.
What on earth are you talking about?
The only guys who walk with confidence is the ones who don't care what others think and take pride in themselves. It's a mindset, nothing to do with what's between the legs. (a mindset I'm still working on myself)
idk. i walk like a badass because i look good. haha and last i checked i didnt have a real penis.
heck yea im proud to be small :P
Quote from: Elwood on February 27, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
No, but these guys are bioguys. I don't know if they have *perfect* penises, but they have them. Men with penises walk with a confidence that men without them don't.
I don't need a penis to walk with confidence or build confidence in myself. I built confidence in myself for accepting what I have right now and knowing that some of it I will be able to change and some of it I wont.
The people who walk with confidence are the ones who are happy with themselves.
Quote from: Josh on February 27, 2009, 07:30:59 PM
idk. i walk like a badass because i look good. haha and last i checked i didnt have a real penis.
Haha, pretty much.
Quote from: emoboi on February 27, 2009, 09:30:41 PM
heck yea im proud to be small :P
Right on!
Quote from: Elwood on February 20, 2009, 07:53:02 PM
Cute, weak, submissive. That's what people assume.
not always.
I'm 5'4. Not on T, and of all the things people assume of me weak is not one of them. Maybe cute. I doubt it, but I wouldn't see it as a bad thing especially if it was a cute girl thinkin it! Submissive: Wouldn't be because of my height. Rather it'd be just my general "eh? whatever" personality.
I personally like being short. Well not like I'd like to be shorter, but I don't mind the shortness I am. Sometimes is a bit annoying when its me and a couple guys and I'm a good 7 inches shorter than all of them, luckily there are a good amount of short guys out there too so it doesn't happen often that ALL the people around me tower over me.
Plus! you can shop in the kids department! Which is a major win for me. I love pants with a billion pockets (for frogs and other delights of nature) and they tend to fit me better over all AND they're cheaper (usually)
I've seen bio men WITH dicks, walk like straight up super models in a fashion show. Saying bio men walk with some crazy confidence because they have dicks, is extremely ignorant. If you think your walk defines what you have between your legs, I must have a super dong, because I got more swagger in my walk than T.I. HOLLER!
Quote from: Monty on February 27, 2009, 03:38:38 PM
Elwood, I think there's quite a few of us who would like to be taller, but it's one thing about ourselves we can't change. So, the idea is to accept what we can change and what we can't.
We could be sour all we want about our height because it's not what we'd like, but that doesn't get us anywhere. Genetic guys and girls aren't automatically happy with their heights because it's not like they get to decide and we don't. Not all confidence can be gained by being taller or shorter or taking hormones or surgeries. We have to learn to be happy with ourselves, even if we dislike or hate our parts, because we're never going to be happy about ourselves unless we do. The more we accept ourselves and the things we cannot change, the more effective transition will be because it obviously doesn't cure everything as much as we'd like to believe. A lot of the insecurities you take into transition will still be there afterwards.
I can't tell you or anyone how to think about their body. That's completely up to that individual. What I will say is that when I kept thinking about the taller girls and men and dwelling on it, I was unhappy because I made it a big deal. Now instead of saying to myself, "I'm not this, I'm not this..." I'm telling myself the advantages of being shorter and I'm a lot happier because I'm dwelling on the positive. Thinking and dwelling about what I don't have, that I either can't change or wont be able to change for a long time always made me feel horrible, so I try to look on the positive side. Whether that's me being comfortable with the things I cannot change or holding onto the hope that one day I will be able to change something about myself. Inner peace is really powerful.
Well said, Monty. Reminds me a lot of the Serenity prayer that starts something like this: "grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference." It's something my grandmother said to me a lot when I was younger, but only now am I beginning to really understand it and (especially with transition) doing my best to live by it.
Quote from: GQjoey on March 01, 2009, 05:55:48 AM
I've seen bio men WITH dicks, walk like straight up super models in a fashion show. Saying bio men walk with some crazy confidence because they have dicks, is extremely ignorant. If you think your walk defines what you have between your legs, I must have a super dong, because I got more swagger in my walk than T.I. HOLLER!
Too right.
Quote from: Elwood on February 27, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
No, but these guys are bioguys. I don't know if they have *perfect* penises, but they have them. Men with penises walk with a confidence that men without them don't.
Elwood.. I couldn't disagree with you more?
Just because a man doesn't have a penis doesn't mean he has less confidence than a man with one.
Maybe you are talking about yourself.. and yes I couldn't argue with that.
Jay
Penis doesn't make the man. Nor does height. Confidence comes from within.
Here's a little secret: A lot of guys are extremely insecure about there penis. Many wish they had a bigger one. And the funny thing is most of their partners are happy regardless. :P
Hey I am so around 5'3", 5'4" ish. Always changes when someone measures me lol. But I don't care at all. Big things come in small packages eh.
I'm 5'4, and I'm not on T.
I just hate being short. >:(
Everybody else in my family is taller than me! I have a brother who is 9 years younger than me, but now he is taller than me.
Most of my friends are also taller...
Is it possible to become taller after going on T? :-\ I'm new to all of this, so I was wondering...
There'd be a chance you could grow some if you got on T during puberty, before you finished growing.
I'm actually 5'4" too. The funny thing is I have friends who are taller than me but they never seem taller to me. I always seem to be looking downward at them (literally not like I'm stuck up or anything :P) I guess I just stand really straight, or just feel really tall. :P
It's late for me... :-\
I'm 22...
But thanks Osiris... ;)
Most of my friends are taller than me, but they do not see me as shorter person... As one of them said - they like my personality, so they do not care about my height.
When exactly is the cutoff for getting taller on T? Some say 18, some say early 20s, some even say 16. Yes I know it differs, just looking for an average.
I thought it was in your teens but I found this reference from the internet..
QuoteThe height that you achieve depends on several factors: 1) The genes you inherit from your parents; 2) The age you enter puberty (when you start to develop sexually); 3) the age you have your first period (if you're a girl); and 3) your general health. If you have a chronic disease, for example, this will affect your height. Most young women achieve their full height within 12 to 18 months after their first period. (around 16 years old) Most young men tend to stop growing at the end of puberty when they begin to shave regularly. (around 18 years old)
Jay
Makes sense Jay.
I figured that you'd have to be pretty young for it to really affect your height. Mostly because women get their growth spurt at the beginning of puberty, where as men get their's at the end.
I'm 5'6...I'm short compared to the company I keep, though my bf is 5'10 (so it's not -THAT- big of a difference).
Personally, I used to -hate- being short and in some ways I do hate not being a few inches taller, but I've finally surrounded myself with people who don't care---who think that being short is cute and puts me at an advantage. I feel special for being short around them, not awkward.
Out in public? I could care less...there's tons of bio guys that are short. My only problems have been with girls who are very put off by a guy not being over 6ft. But that's their loss---not all think that way, and I'm more into guys anyway (and the guys I like, like someone shorter than them so it all works out).
Of course my opinion would probably be different if I was any shorter than I am. But, honestly, you just have to accept it. It sucks. But bio guys are short too and they deal with it. Getting 'short man syndrome' isn't appealing and makes you just look like you're compensating. If you can't joke at your own shortcomings, you're going to lead a life full of conflict with those around you.
The penis issue? Well...that's another can of worms and not so easy to just 'lol' about. =\
Quote from: Osiris on March 12, 2009, 09:00:52 PM
Penis doesn't make the man. Nor does height. Confidence comes from within.
Here's a little secret: A lot of guys are extremely insecure about there penis. Many wish they had a bigger one. And the funny thing is most of their partners are happy regardless. :P
Heh. This is a good point - if you don't have a dick, you can't be insecure about dick size! ;D
I guess FTMs don't learn to be obsessed about the penis size thing like bioguys do. I can honestly say it doesn't bother me a bit that I don't have one.
I can't get the quote to insert, but this is regarding what Jay put on here about females hitting maximum height 12-18 months after their first period:
Yeah... that's not exactly right. If it was, I would have reached my adult height at 11 or 12... and I'd be 5'2" now. As it is, I reached 5'4" by 15, and was 5'5" at 18, when I graduated high school. Sometime between 18 and 20, I hit 5'6"... and yes, I'm certain, because I've been measured with the same apparatus since birth. My feet also grew a half size from 18 to 20, then about a size and a half at 25, without the influence of T. I believe the general rule is that the cap for growing in females is 20, in males 25. Not quite certain how that affects female-bodied folk who go on testosterone, but I have a friend who's ftm, went on T at 20, and grew an inch and a half taller.
I'm betting it just has to do with genetics, and quite a bit of chance; however, I doubt that past 20 you'd see any significant gains in height from T. I started at 25, and didn't get even a millimeter taller. But, as many people have said, height doesn't make the man... and a penis CERTAINLY doesn't. There's a reason men don't go around waving their penises through the crotches of their pants... it's just not that pertinent (not to mention that would be more than a little scary). Go to that penis pictures link that someone posted, and read the guys' comments about their own packages. There are guys with 8 inches who say either that they think they're too small, or that women are afraid to sleep with them because they're too big, while guys with 4 inches say they've never had a complaint. The only thing a penis is important for is sex, and god knows there are plenty of quite worthy substitutes on websites and in adult stores.
Someone said this before, but I've used it quite a bit in the past: I don't mind that I don't have a penis. That just means I can pick my size, and if I want, I'll always have a bigger one than any guy around me. But I don't pack. The only person who will ever see what's in my pants is my wife, and she doesn't mind that it's not a penis. Guys here who are focusing on what they lack instead of what they have... get a new focus.
SD