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Community Conversation => Transgender talk => Topic started by: chrysalis on March 16, 2009, 02:36:04 AM

Title: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: chrysalis on March 16, 2009, 02:36:04 AM
I know that for is probably more of an insult, but honestly there are some women I look at who don't fit the female paradigm but still pull it off brilliantly.

For me, Lisa Lampanelli is one of these people.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg119.imageshack.us%2Fimg119%2F2396%2Flisalampanelli.th.jpg&hash=1b870272fafc3762d59e83b797bcd556edc783aa) (http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lisalampanelli.jpg)
She looks a bit like a toned down drag queen here, but in general I feel more confident about myself after watching her. I think she's kind of a role model in some ways.

The same goes for Queen Latifah.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg242.imageshack.us%2Fimg242%2F9443%2Fqueenlatifah2007ama1.th.jpg&hash=c1839bf823b0a7fdfac60fbed22aef9b691fd84c) (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=queenlatifah2007ama1.jpg)


So who gives you hope?
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: stezzie on March 16, 2009, 03:57:41 AM
oh my god, queen latifa reminds me of my mom.
lisa lampanelli annoys the crap out of me but i still think she looks hawt.

as for what gives me hope? i'm hoping it's me, hehehe. :laugh:
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: chrysalis on March 16, 2009, 04:50:33 AM
Yeah you're lucky enough to look the part already. Some of us need a bit more work.
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: stezzie on March 16, 2009, 05:00:08 AM
Quote from: chrysalis on March 16, 2009, 04:50:33 AM
Yeah you're lucky enough to look the part already. Some of us need a bit more work.

ahhhhhhh!!!
you're the first person to tell me that!!!
you have no idea how freakin' happy that just made me!!!

sorry, i used to have crazy self esteem issues.
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Genevieve Swann on March 16, 2009, 06:09:24 AM
Lisa Lampanelli is very funny. I enjoy her. I hadn't realized Queen Latifa was TG. The thought never cross my mind. Usually when she is on I change the channel. Not because of her so much but the other actors. The person I respect the most is Cindi Jones and not because crossing the line was easy. Because of her tenacity and courage. I live in the city where she grew up and being TG is not very popular.
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Imadique on March 16, 2009, 07:37:45 AM
Quote from: Genevieve Swann on March 16, 2009, 06:09:24 AM
Lisa Lampanelli is very funny. I enjoy her. I hadn't realized Queen Latifa was TG. The thought never cross my mind. Usually when she is on I change the channel. Not because of her so much but the other actors. The person I respect the most is Cindi Jones and not because crossing the line was easy. Because of her tenacity and courage. I live in the city where she grew up and being TG is not very popular.

neither lady is TG, I think Chrysalis was commenting on how they don't fit  the paradigm. I would pick different ladies as examples but I can agree with the topic for sure.

Not a fan of her or anything but I thought  K.D. Lang was so cool when the media was giving her so much flack for looking like a man:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.suprmchaos.com%2Ftony-kd_040803.jpg&hash=2144896c5ee869d87f50b7bb7e5bb563d1d80b57)

Peaches definitely flirts with the masculine look quite  frequently  too, though it's more of a deliberate effort for her rather than K.D. just being who she is:

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Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Jaimey on March 16, 2009, 01:57:47 PM
I like Lisa Lampinelli...I think it might be her language and her comedic style.  She doesn't do the typical 'female' humor.  Actually, she was on last night roasting Larry the Cable Guy (...there are no words), and she was awesome.  She's a ball buster.

For me, I look up to people like Davey Havok and Rufus Wainwright.  Rufus dressed like Judy Garland in the tribute he did to her.  And he's just adorable.  Davey's almost too pretty.  He's straight, I believe, but he wears makeup, he's into fashion, has some pretty effeminate gestures, etc.  He's my favorite.
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: chrysalis on March 16, 2009, 03:15:32 PM
Quote from: Imadique on March 16, 2009, 07:37:45 AM
neither lady is TG, I think Chrysalis was commenting on how they don't fit  the paradigm. I would pick different ladies as examples but I can agree with the topic for sure.

To clarify I meant that there are pretty rigid ideas about how a man or woman should look, and naturally not everyone fits into that mold. And sometimes that gets me down because, as a bio-guy, I don't fit the female mold. I'm too tall, too broad shouldered, too deep voiced and hairy, etc.  So Lisa and the Queen are two women who I look to and think, "Hey, they're fabulous without being super models. I could do that!"

Despite that slight miscommunication this thread is turning out really great.
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Jaimey on March 16, 2009, 04:43:14 PM
Here's a video of Rufus doing "Get Happy".   :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_dOMcaaSbM# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_dOMcaaSbM#)
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Nicky on March 16, 2009, 06:38:13 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rem.ufpr.br%2FREMv7%2FBrett_Wood%2FLang.jpg&hash=14a548dbbe6f24cb99424a8a341e77e0e4baec7f)

Eddie was my hero:

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Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: stezzie on March 16, 2009, 07:34:28 PM
oh my god, i absolutly adore eddy izzard.
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Osiris on March 16, 2009, 08:07:33 PM
Eddie Izzard IS MY HERO! <333333333

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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkenstein64.files.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F02%2Feddie-izzard-an02.jpg&hash=80c6a341c8c29262b0119b931ffaeb9eb5ed208d)
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Hypatia on March 16, 2009, 10:49:03 PM
Quote from: chrysalis on March 16, 2009, 02:36:04 AM
I know that for is probably more of an insult, but honestly there are some women I look at who don't fit the female paradigm but still pull it off brilliantly.

For me, Lisa Lampanelli is one of these people.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg119.imageshack.us%2Fimg119%2F2396%2Flisalampanelli.th.jpg&hash=1b870272fafc3762d59e83b797bcd556edc783aa) (http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lisalampanelli.jpg)
She looks a bit like a toned down drag queen here, but in general I feel more confident about myself after watching her. I think she's kind of a role model in some ways.

Never heard of her before. Who is she?

I'll say one thing for her... that pic is proof that wrap dresses look good on everyone, no matter what. They're one of the most amazing inventions ever.
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: tekla on March 16, 2009, 11:26:18 PM
LL is a stand-up comedian, self described (or promoted as) "The Queen of Mean" - so think sort of a female Don Rickles.
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: chrysalis on March 17, 2009, 02:50:07 AM
Eddie is terrific. When I was in high school all the guys went on a trip together and I'll never forget my jaw literally dropping once I they popped in Dress To Kill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp69rg6Hdlo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp69rg6Hdlo#)
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Sippin my tea on March 17, 2009, 02:13:56 PM
I've taken a shine to Izzy Hilton. That face of his is rather unique (very masculine at certain angles), as is his sense of style. I LOVE it!!! And he looks like that without hormones or anything ;-;

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnd.blog.cz%2Fe%2Femoxpunk.blog.cz%2Fobrazky%2F23471887.jpg&hash=7fd8f62a1d8ca08de90a04a0de6a0be3268590bb)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faltfast.ru%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2008-11%2F1225753157_fyhtirtgf.jpg&hash=0adfc0e95b0340a91524a1ee181d2aa982b411ae)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fscenegirls.org%2Fwp-content%2Fgallery%2Fizzy-hilton%2Fizzy-hilton-18.JPG&hash=c09ea5296d8e23f0d3e5f95d714859f9e7a95acf)



Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: stezzie on March 17, 2009, 03:42:02 PM
Quote from: Sippin my tea on March 17, 2009, 02:13:56 PM
I've taken a shine to Izzy Hilton. That face of his is rather unique (very masculine at certain angles), as is his sense of style. I LOVE it!!! And he looks like that without hormones or anything ;-;

omg, that's a boy!!!
yay for boys who can naturally be girls!!!
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Osiris on March 17, 2009, 03:57:20 PM
Along those same lines: Let's not forget about Gackt

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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi210.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb183%2Fmilkymilkshake%2FGackt%2FGackt428.jpg&hash=e3f1981125dfaef8f331780f404e555f2358fdd4)
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Sippin my tea on March 17, 2009, 04:01:38 PM
I swear. He's gotta be taking the souls of the living to look that good. What is he, 40 now?
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: stezzie on March 17, 2009, 04:13:25 PM
yumm, souls...
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: iminadaze on March 17, 2009, 07:56:51 PM
 Derrick Barry as Britney

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fll407%2Fiminadaze%2FDB.jpg&hash=850a696656dfe7511af38271cf279d04a548c713)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi314.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fll407%2Fiminadaze%2FDB1.jpg&hash=5b05bc65717a359d973689a48780e7b5eb820faf)


He is one hot guy
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Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Osiris on March 17, 2009, 08:43:04 PM
*would reply something but is too distracted staring at Nicole's post*

I love people who can look great as a man or woman.

One of the reasons why I love RuPaul.

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Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: xsocialworker on March 17, 2009, 09:39:33 PM
Ann Coulter as Her (him) self.  A true goddess of the American Way
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Jaimey on March 17, 2009, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: xsocialworker on March 17, 2009, 09:39:33 PM
Ann Coulter as Her (him) self.  A true goddess of the American Way

that's terrifying... >:-)
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Jeatyn on March 18, 2009, 01:35:55 AM
Bill Kaulitz, such a pretty boy:

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fphotoblog.eztools.com%2Ff%2F7%2F8%2F7%2F4575787%2F24.jpg&hash=34d75d911b2095fb3b12a4a50b4a0be564f62b36)

The whole of alice nine, all boys:

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Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Jaimey on March 18, 2009, 03:34:00 AM
I met the guys from Blood (a visual kei band from Japan) and I truly thought that the bass player, Kaede, was a woman until he spoke.  :D  I wanted him to sign a guitar pick and he didn't understand at first, then said "Oh!" and scared the bejeezus out of me...he has a very manly voice.  He signed it though.  :laugh:
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Jeatyn on March 18, 2009, 04:49:18 AM
Quote from: Jaimey on March 18, 2009, 03:34:00 AM
I met the guys from Blood (a visual kei band from Japan) and I truly thought that the bass player, Kaede, was a woman until he spoke.  :D  I wanted him to sign a guitar pick and he didn't understand at first, then said "Oh!" and scared the bejeezus out of me...he has a very manly voice.  He signed it though.  :laugh:

that is so awesome ;D you could make a lot of money from that!
Title: Re: People Who Make It Look Easier To Cross The Gender Line
Post by: Jaimey on March 18, 2009, 05:39:42 PM
Quote from: Jeatyn on March 18, 2009, 04:49:18 AM
that is so awesome ;D you could make a lot of money from that!

hmmm...that's something to think about...Jaimey needs money. :laugh: